Current Events > You know damn well you don't give a shit if the foriegner came legally or not

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foriegner?
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1615160/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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Of course I do, Chan deserves his pay. It was a good movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Foreigner_(2017_film)
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GOd damn it TOO SLOW AGAIN!
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Totally agree with TC here
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Of course not, it's why they were shitting on that judge.
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I damn well do give a shit. If they are here legally that means they're actually paying taxes and contributing to our society instead of stealing from us.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

GOd damn it TOO SLOW AGAIN!

In your defense, I had to edit mine because the wikipedia link always fucks up with parenthesis
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Speak for yourself, TC. As a legal immigrant and now U.S. citizen, illegal immigrants can go fuck themselves.
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KazumaKiryu posted...

I damn well do give a shit. If they are here legally that means they're actually paying taxes and contributing to our society instead of stealing from us.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/money/2017/04/19/news/economy/undocumented-immigrant-taxes/index.html

"Out of the nearly 11.1 million undocumented immigrants estimated to be living in the U.S., Pew Research projected that there were about 8 million in the workforce in 2014.

Nearly half, or 3.4 million, of those workers paid Social Security taxes, according to 2014 estimates from the Social Security administration. And while the agency doesn't have a figure for how much this group paid in taxes that year, it said that unauthorized immigrant workers and their employers contributed $13 billion in payroll taxes in 2010, its most current estimate."

By comparison, almost half of Americans don't pay income taxes because they are either too poor or claim too many credits.

https://nypost.com/2017/04/18/almost-half-of-americans-wont-pay-federal-income-tax/
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zH0mPfR posted...

Speak for yourself, TC. As a legal immigrant and now U.S. citizen, illegal immigrants can go fuck themselves.

Well said!
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You have no problem with legal immigration that you're trying to stop it.

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/942789560941064193

I was specifically told people only had a problem with *illegal* immigration. But this sure seems like the administration has an issue with *legal* immigration.
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Veggeta X posted...

that you're trying to stop it.

You're confusing an individual gamefaqs user with Trump and his administration.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Veggeta X posted...

that you're trying to stop it.

You're confusing an individual gamefaqs user with Trump and his administration.

Strong hint: They are the same
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Well holy shit, Trump posts on gamefaqs?!!!!
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Veggeta X posted...

You have no problem with legal immigration that you're trying to stop it.

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/942789560941064193

I was specifically told people only had a problem with *illegal* immigration. But this sure seems like the administration has an issue with *legal* immigration.

I've already explained this before, and you really just want to play both sides. You tell us our immigration system is messed up and that's why there are so many illegals... yet when we talk about reforming the system, you cry about that too. Chain migration is what makes it difficult for new immigrants to come in legally. We need to fix that first and foremost.
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KazumaKiryu posted...

Veggeta X posted...

You have no problem with legal immigration that you're trying to stop it.

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/942789560941064193

I was specifically told people only had a problem with *illegal* immigration. But this sure seems like the administration has an issue with *legal* immigration.

I've already explained this before, and you really just want to play both sides. You tell us our immigration system is messed up and that's why there are so many illegals... yet when we talk about reforming the system, you cry about that too. Chain migration is what makes it difficult for new immigrants to come in legally. We need to fix that first and foremost.

Stop spinning it, dude.
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Veggeta X posted...

KazumaKiryu posted...

Veggeta X posted...

You have no problem with legal immigration that you're trying to stop it.

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/942789560941064193

I was specifically told people only had a problem with *illegal* immigration. But this sure seems like the administration has an issue with *legal* immigration.

I've already explained this before, and you really just want to play both sides. You tell us our immigration system is messed up and that's why there are so many illegals... yet when we talk about reforming the system, you cry about that too. Chain migration is what makes it difficult for new immigrants to come in legally. We need to fix that first and foremost.

Stop spinning it, dude.

I'm not spinning a damn thing, it's the reality of the situation. We need immigration reform.
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Sorry bro but I simply don't believe you in what you're saying.
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Legal immigration matters.
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Why are all the gimmick posters making these topics now
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Veggeta X posted...

Sorry bro but I simply don't believe you in what you're saying.

he doesn't even believe in much of what he posts on here, it's all designed to maximize reactions out of people and generate controversy. don't take anything KazumaKiryu says seriously, because not even he does.
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Zanzenburger posted...

KazumaKiryu posted...

I damn well do give a shit. If they are here legally that means they're actually paying taxes and contributing to our society instead of stealing from us.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/money/2017/04/19/news/economy/undocumented-immigrant-taxes/index.html

"Out of the nearly 11.1 million undocumented immigrants estimated to be living in the U.S., Pew Research projected that there were about 8 million in the workforce in 2014.

Nearly half, or 3.4 million, of those workers paid Social Security taxes, according to 2014 estimates from the Social Security administration. And while the agency doesn't have a figure for how much this group paid in taxes that year, it said that unauthorized immigrant workers and their employers contributed $13 billion in payroll taxes in 2010, its most current estimate."

By comparison, almost half of Americans don't pay income taxes because they are either too poor or claim too many credits.

https://nypost.com/2017/04/18/almost-half-of-americans-wont-pay-federal-income-tax/

How can they pay Social Security taxes without a Social Security number?
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Conflict posted...

KazumaKiryu posted...

I damn well do give a shit. If they are here legally that means they're actually paying taxes and contributing to our society instead of stealing from us.

Your fucking president isn't even paying taxes lol

Trump pays more in taxes than Communist Bernie Sanders, when basing it on percentage of income.
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TC, are you saying that you believe opinions on immigration are binary; either for open borders or for complete isolation, and are you pretending that thoughts on immigration can only apply to both legals/illegals and not contextually?

This is a stupid topic.
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KazumaKiryu posted...

Chain migration is what makes it difficult for new immigrants to come in legally. We need to fix that first and foremost.

Chain migration would be completely harmless, were the concept of "sponsorship" actually relevant and meaningful.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

TC, are you saying that you believe opinions on immigration are binary; either for open borders or for complete isolation, and are you pretending that thoughts on immigration can only apply to both legals/illegals and not contextually?

This is a stupid topic.

I'm saying people who says they want immigrants to come here legally are lying, they don't want immigrants here at all.
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Veggeta X posted...

I'm saying people who says they want immigrants to come here legally are lying

So you want people to come here illegally ie you're for open borders?
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Playing identity politics now eh, Vegy?
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Veggeta X posted...

I'm saying people who says they want immigrants to come here legally are lying, they don't want immigrants here at all.

You do realize it's entirely possible to accept the immigrants who already here, and also not want any more, right?

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Veggeta X posted...

I'm saying people who says they want immigrants to come here legally are lying

So you want people to come here illegally ie you're for open borders?

Nope. I'm for being a passionate person, though.
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As a legal immigrant, who has gone through so many hoops, shelled out a ton of money, and is separated from my family who follow the law, I do care.

But Id be pretty bummed if we lost chain migration. I was really hoping to sponsor my mom.

good cross post
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Veggeta X posted...

Nope. I'm for being a passionate person, though.

https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/sponsor
There you go. Be as "passionate" as you want.

the amount of dodging the question going on in here speaks volumes
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Veggeta X posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Veggeta X posted...

I'm saying people who says they want immigrants to come here legally are lying

So you want people to come here illegally ie you're for open borders?

Nope. I'm for being a passionate person, though.

So you're lying.
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Veggeta X posted...

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

TC, are you saying that you believe opinions on immigration are binary; either for open borders or for complete isolation, and are you pretending that thoughts on immigration can only apply to both legals/illegals and not contextually?

This is a stupid topic.

I'm saying people who says they want immigrants to come here legally are lying, they don't want immigrants here at all.

What about people who already immigrated legally? They're some of the loudest 'legal only!' people around.

Are you suggesting they don't want any immigration?
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darkjedilink posted...

How can they pay Social Security taxes without a Social Security number?

There are multiple methods. They can use a fake social security number (deceased person, etc). There is a legal method that is often used illegally, most commonly seen in universities but available in other areas, where you are allowed to create a "temporary" social security number for international people with visas, that can only be used within your company. People with current or expired visas can use those numbers to apply for jobs. Most jobs don't vet those numbers so they never catch on that the numbers aren't allowable outside of a specific set of circumstances.

Those are the two most common methods I'm familiar with. Both can and have been used to get jobs, pay taxes, and even file taxes every year.
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