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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:26:59 PM
#1:


I'll make a long story short...

Key Points:
1- I was shoved and had a door almost closed on me
2- I recorded this.
3- I told the police officer what happened and that he didn't physically hurt me and I wasn't scared.
4- Police talked to him.
5- Police left.
6- I called the police department to ask why no arrests were made.
7- Was told I had nothing to go off of
8- Showed him the video.
9- He continued to say he had nothing to go off of.
10- I had some errands to get done and when I came home, my girlfriend told me he was being arrested.

I looked up our local county jail roster and sure as hell he was there for an outstanding warrant stemming from a DUI a number of years ago. Nothing about 5th degree assault, or disorderly conduct, etc.

I am told essentially that since I said I wasn't injured or scared (and actually I just meant that while the officer was there, I wasn't scared) that he can't go forward with prosecution.

I won't get into the reasons why but I was very careful to not say or do anything that could in anyway be misconstrued as disorderly conduct or assault, so I let him say what he had to say and do what he wanted to do, documenting everything, figuring I wouldn't take the law into my own hands or possibly scare any of the residents.

TL;DR was shoved but since I said I'm not scared or in pain, they refused to arrest him on those charges
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treewojima
01/31/18 5:27:51 PM
#2:


grow a pair
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DragonGirlYuki
01/31/18 5:28:06 PM
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Do you have a gun?
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:29:09 PM
#4:


treewojima posted...
grow a pair

and then do what, punch him and get arrested when he son/witness calls the police?
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:29:23 PM
#5:


DragonGirlYuki posted...
Do you have a gun?

no
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Patchwork
01/31/18 5:29:35 PM
#6:


You got shoved... seriously. Grow up.

Maybe that would be harassment. And even that is a stretch.
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pinky0926
01/31/18 5:29:44 PM
#7:


Why are you trying to escalate a situation that resolved itself

Like it's not cool that the guy shoved you but I'm not sure what else you want out of this
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Wedge Antilles
01/31/18 5:30:19 PM
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At first I thought this was a Dawkins topic.
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Zikten
01/31/18 5:30:31 PM
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actually shoving is supposed to count as assault. that is more than harassment. if you touch them, that's assault .
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cjsdowg
01/31/18 5:30:39 PM
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Have you posted here before under a differant name, this is a situation that sounds a story from another user.
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prince_leo
01/31/18 5:30:44 PM
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so you weren't scared or hurt? just walk away
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A_Good_Boy
01/31/18 5:30:45 PM
#12:


gbpxl posted...
1- I was shoved and had a door almost closed on me
2- I recorded this.

Hmmm...
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:31:08 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Why are you trying to escalate a situation that resolved itself

Like it's not cool that the guy shoved you but I'm not sure what else you want out of this

If a stranger shoved you in anger, what is your reaction?
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Zikten
01/31/18 5:31:27 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Why are you trying to escalate a situation that resolved itself

something tells me this is not resolved. it doesn't sound like the feud is over at all. this is like the very beginnings of an episode of that ID show Fear Thy Neighbor. they usually end with someone dead
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Freddie_Mercury
01/31/18 5:31:36 PM
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Patchwork
01/31/18 5:31:37 PM
#16:


Zikten posted...
actually shoving is supposed to count as assault. that is more than harassment. if you touch them, that's assault .


Not in PA.
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:31:54 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
before under a differant name, this is a situation that sounds a story from another user.

it just happened on Sunday.
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A_Good_Boy
01/31/18 5:32:00 PM
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gbpxl posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Why are you trying to escalate a situation that resolved itself

Like it's not cool that the guy shoved you but I'm not sure what else you want out of this

If a stranger shoved you in anger, what is your reaction?

Say everything is cool and go pick up chicken tendies at the grocery store?
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treewojima
01/31/18 5:32:05 PM
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gbpxl posted...
treewojima posted...
grow a pair

and then do what, punch him and get arrested when he son/witness calls the police?


no, brush it off and only pursue charges if it escalates. assholes are everywhere, it's up to everyone else to not feed into them unless they go overboard
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Zikten
01/31/18 5:32:06 PM
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prince_leo posted...
so you weren't scared or hurt? just walk away

he was scared. he was no longer scared when the cop showed up and the cop misunderstood what he meant.
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Axiom
01/31/18 5:32:08 PM
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Imagine calling police over getting shoved that didn't even lead to an injury. Why were you recording or did you purposefully try and provoke him. Are you trying to become the new dawkins
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pinky0926
01/31/18 5:33:04 PM
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gbpxl posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Why are you trying to escalate a situation that resolved itself

Like it's not cool that the guy shoved you but I'm not sure what else you want out of this

If a stranger shoved you in anger, what is your reaction?


Likely reactions:
- attempt to de-escalate the situation
- exit the scene, call the police
- brace myself for a fight if necessary

Seems like you did that but I'm not sure where you're going with this. The cops talked to him, he was clearly warned. Do you want him to go to jail over shoving you?
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pinky0926
01/31/18 5:33:50 PM
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Zikten posted...
prince_leo posted...
so you weren't scared or hurt? just walk away

he was scared. he was no longer scared when the cop showed up and the cop misunderstood what he meant.


Yes, I understand. But after the entire situation has deflated and the cops have assessed it and talked to the suspect and determined no more threat what else do you want? Like I don't know what TC expects to happen next
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Laserion
01/31/18 5:34:19 PM
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Wedge Antilles posted...
At first I thought this was a Dawkins topic.

I thought he made a new alt, too.
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cjsdowg
01/31/18 5:34:44 PM
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gbpxl posted...
cjsdowg posted...
before under a differant name, this is a situation that sounds a story from another user.

it just happened on Sunday.


What I mean is that there is another user who keeps having run-ins like this. And this one would be just like the typical run-ins he has .
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:34:45 PM
#27:


pinky0926 posted...
gbpxl posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Why are you trying to escalate a situation that resolved itself

Like it's not cool that the guy shoved you but I'm not sure what else you want out of this

If a stranger shoved you in anger, what is your reaction?


Likely reactions:
- attempt to de-escalate the situation
- exit the scene, call the police
- brace myself for a fight if necessary

Seems like you did that but I'm not sure where you're going with this. The cops talked to him, he was clearly warned. Do you want him to go to jail over shoving you?

A fine at the very least.

I looked him up, he was arrested in 05 for pushing meth and looks like he had a warrant out for being arrested for an 8th DUI
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pinky0926
01/31/18 5:34:51 PM
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Zikten posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Why are you trying to escalate a situation that resolved itself

something tells me this is not resolved. it doesn't sound like the feud is over at all. this is like the very beginnings of an episode of that ID show Fear Thy Neighbor. they usually end with someone dead


What do you expect to happen

The cops aren't going to arrest someone for attempted murder because he shoved someone once. They're going to need a little more than that.
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pinky0926
01/31/18 5:35:52 PM
#29:


gbpxl posted...
pinky0926 posted...
gbpxl posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Why are you trying to escalate a situation that resolved itself

Like it's not cool that the guy shoved you but I'm not sure what else you want out of this

If a stranger shoved you in anger, what is your reaction?


Likely reactions:
- attempt to de-escalate the situation
- exit the scene, call the police
- brace myself for a fight if necessary

Seems like you did that but I'm not sure where you're going with this. The cops talked to him, he was clearly warned. Do you want him to go to jail over shoving you?

A fine at the very least.

I looked him up, he was arrested in 05 for pushing meth and looks like he had a warrant out for being arrested for an 8th DUI


Right but those are entirely separate cases

What you should do is make sure this entire thing has been documented (which sounds like you have) and if anything at all happens again you then have ammunition to go to the cops with. They will have reason to take this more seriously if there's ever a next time.
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A_Good_Boy
01/31/18 5:36:24 PM
#31:


cjsdowg posted...
gbpxl posted...
cjsdowg posted...
before under a differant name, this is a situation that sounds a story from another user.

it just happened on Sunday.


What I mean is that there is another user who keeps having run-ins like this. And this one would be just like the typical run-ins he has .

And always seems to inexplicably record his various escapades as well.
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KingCrabCake
01/31/18 5:36:36 PM
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Lmfao a push

Called the cops over a push
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:38:09 PM
#33:


pinky0926 posted...
Zikten posted...
prince_leo posted...
so you weren't scared or hurt? just walk away

he was scared. he was no longer scared when the cop showed up and the cop misunderstood what he meant.


Yes, I understand. But after the entire situation has deflated and the cops have assessed it and talked to the suspect and determined no more threat what else do you want? Like I don't know what TC expects to happen next
I guess I wrongly assumed that if there is reasonable suspicion that someone commits a crime, they get arrested. I read the papers all the time. a chick got arrested for taking a piss in an alleyway behind a bar (who the f*** cares?) if I do 5 MPH over the speed limit, there's a chance I'm getting pulled over. just seems strange how I've always been told that touching someone in anyway can be deemed harassment or assault, yet no one was charged.
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Cleo_II
01/31/18 5:40:08 PM
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Were you on his property trying to get in his house or something?
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flussence
01/31/18 5:41:37 PM
#35:


A_Good_Boy posted...
gbpxl posted...
1- I was shoved and had a door almost closed on me
2- I recorded this.

Hmmm...

I hope someone else recorded the part leading up to this so we can hear the truth
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:42:32 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
Were you on his property trying to get in his house or something?

no. we live in an apartment, and I wanted to do my laundry. his clothes were done it the washer and I waited a few minutes and told him his clothes were done.. he went nuts. the usual insults, that kind of thing. I stood there by the washer, waiting for him to remove his clothes and he didn't like that, so he tried to physically move me.
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:43:48 PM
#37:


flussence posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
gbpxl posted...
1- I was shoved and had a door almost closed on me
2- I recorded this.

Hmmm...

I hope someone else recorded the part leading up to this so we can hear the truth

nothing to hide dude, wish I could've had the whole interaction on video
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DeanAuryn
01/31/18 5:46:25 PM
#38:


TC should be arrested for wasting police time. Imagine calling them because someone shoved you and did no physical harm at all.
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pinky0926
01/31/18 5:48:04 PM
#39:


gbpxl posted...
I guess I wrongly assumed that if there is reasonable suspicion that someone commits a crime, they get arrested. I read the papers all the time. a chick got arrested for taking a piss in an alleyway behind a bar (who the f*** cares?) if I do 5 MPH over the speed limit, there's a chance I'm getting pulled over. just seems strange how I've always been told that touching someone in anyway can be deemed harassment or assault, yet no one was charged.


Seems strange to me that in the same sentence you'll point out how ludicrous it would be for someone to receive the hard arm of the law over something minor, and at the same time complain about how ludicrous it is for someone to not receive the hard arm of the law over something minor.

Little stuff like this gets taken at a case by case basis. It might be that they assessed there was no threat and this was just a minor domestic dispute best resolved by having a chat with all parties. I just suggest that next time something happens like this don't hesitate to call the police.
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:48:44 PM
#40:


DeanAuryn posted...
TC should be arrested for wasting police time. Imagine calling them because someone shoved you and did no physical harm at all.

i dont live in south side Chicago, this is honestly probably the most "violent" thing that happened in my town in a week.
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:50:04 PM
#41:


pinky0926 posted...
gbpxl posted...
I guess I wrongly assumed that if there is reasonable suspicion that someone commits a crime, they get arrested. I read the papers all the time. a chick got arrested for taking a piss in an alleyway behind a bar (who the f*** cares?) if I do 5 MPH over the speed limit, there's a chance I'm getting pulled over. just seems strange how I've always been told that touching someone in anyway can be deemed harassment or assault, yet no one was charged.


Seems strange to me that in the same sentence you'll point out how ludicrous it would be for someone to receive the hard arm of the law over something minor, and at the same time complain about how ludicrous it is for someone to not receive the hard arm of the law over something minor.

Little stuff like this gets taken at a case by case basis. It might be that they assessed there was no threat and this was just a minor domestic dispute best resolved by having a chat with all parties. I just suggest that next time something happens like this don't hesitate to call the police.


the only thing ludicrous is the inconsistency in what they make arrests for
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KingCrabCake
01/31/18 5:51:15 PM
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Also post the video of this assault i wanna see it
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:52:34 PM
#43:


KingCrabCake posted...
Also post the video of this assault i wanna see it

PM me and I'll e-mail it to you when I get a chance
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deanshow
01/31/18 5:53:34 PM
#44:


Okay Dawkins
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Dustin1280
01/31/18 5:55:43 PM
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TC is dawkins 2.0
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:56:57 PM
#46:


who is this Dawkins guy? sounds like a guy who has his shit together
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A_Good_Boy
01/31/18 5:58:38 PM
#47:


gbpxl posted...
who is this Dawkins guy? sounds like a guy who has his shit together

Nice try, Dawkins.
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gbpxl
01/31/18 5:59:55 PM
#48:


A_Good_Boy posted...
gbpxl posted...
who is this Dawkins guy? sounds like a guy who has his shit together

Nice try, Dawkins.

gonna take that as a compliment. He's not Richard Dawkins is he?
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VectorChaos
01/31/18 6:04:32 PM
#49:


A_Good_Boy posted...
gbpxl posted...
1- I was shoved and had a door almost closed on me
2- I recorded this.

Hmmm...


gbpxl posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
gbpxl posted...
who is this Dawkins guy? sounds like a guy who has his shit together

Nice try, Dawkins.

gonna take that as a compliment. He's not Richard Dawkins is he?


Yeah, I've got $20 that says this is a Squadder/Dawkins alt
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gbpxl
01/31/18 6:05:14 PM
#50:


VectorChaos posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
gbpxl posted...
1- I was shoved and had a door almost closed on me
2- I recorded this.

Hmmm...


gbpxl posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
gbpxl posted...
who is this Dawkins guy? sounds like a guy who has his shit together

Nice try, Dawkins.

gonna take that as a compliment. He's not Richard Dawkins is he?


Yeah, I've got $20 that says this is a Squadder/Dawkins alt

Do I get the $20 if I prove I'm not either of them? :-)
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