Current Events > what is your opinion on eating dog meat?

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are there any legitimate arguments against it from parties that eat meat?
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@The_Doge
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youd be an asshole to eat someones pet.

but eating a dog raised as food is no different than any other animal as far as I can see.
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I have no idea how someone could eat a cat or a dog and somehow be OK with that.
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Better than eating cat meat.
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KILBOTz posted...

youd be an asshole to eat someones pet.

but eating a dog raised as food is no different than any other animal as far as I can see.

This.

I once saw a documentary about the Vietnamese dog meat trade. The most distressing part was how they actually kidnap people's pets for it.
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Caution999 posted...

I have no idea how someone could eat a cat or a dog and somehow be OK with that.

Living in a culture that eats cat/dog meat.
Seeing cats/dogs on the same level as cows, pigs, chicken
Dogs being fucking delicious
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Wouldnt do it. Dont give a fuck about cultural differences, either. If I made friends with a pig I wouldnt eat him either.
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SoundNetwork posted...

Caution999 posted...

I have no idea how someone could eat a cat or a dog and somehow be OK with that.

Living in a culture that eats cat/dog meat.
Seeing cats/dogs on the same level as cows, pigs, chicken
Dogs being fucking delicious

If I had a pet pig, I'd feel differently about eating pork. Fact of the matter is that I've had emotional connections to dogs and cats and I wouldn't be able to cross that boundary. To me, that's like eating a family member.
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We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

It's just not dogs and cats. People in a third world eat rodents and rats. Meat is considered a rare and special delicacy where they come from. I mean, didn't Europeans eat their horses when they were about to die from hunger?
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Zikten posted...

We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

this, though it's morally wrong.
in other country's they eat guinea pig's. i wouldn't.
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kingdrake2 posted...

Zikten posted...

We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

this, though it's morally wrong.
in other country's they eat guinea pig's. i wouldn't.

Exactly
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Zikten posted...

We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

We enslaved these animals to do our bidding.
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People in China eat dogs, we think thats f***ed

We eat cows, people in India think thats f***ed

We eat pigs, people in the Middle East think thats f***ed

Parts of Europe eat horse, we think thats f***ed

We find drinking cow milk or even the milk of a goat or sheep to be perfectly fine, but its disgusting to think about drinking the milk of a dog, pig, rat or horse

Its all pretty arbitrary and stupid, regardless of any social contract extension towards animals as pets like dogs. Societies all over the world are different so that cant be used as justification for not being okay with eating dogs, if youre gonna be eating other animals
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hell yeah i would eat a dog. always wanted to try it.

as usual zikten's post is amazing

I have nipples greg, could you milk me?
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Dog meat helped me survive against countless of raiders.

So yes, Id eat him after
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REMercsChamp posted...

Zikten posted...

We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

We enslaved these animals to do our bidding.

Nah
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Nundulan posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

Zikten posted...

We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

We enslaved these animals to do our bidding.

Nah

Sure we did. They're our property. We can do with them as we please as long as it's within the law.
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I don't care either way.

It's wrong, but so is eating a cow or pig. Things people in other areas keep as companions.
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REMercsChamp posted...

Nundulan posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

Zikten posted...

We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

We enslaved these animals to do our bidding.

Nah

Sure we did. They're our property. We can do with them as we please as long as it's within the law.

Legality is not moral justification. There are many lawful things which cause harm and suffering. This is one.
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REMercsChamp posted...

Nundulan posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

Zikten posted...

We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

We enslaved these animals to do our bidding.

Nah

Sure we did. They're our property. We can do with them as we please as long as it's within the law.

If the internet existed 100+ years ago I wouldnt know if we were talking about animals or black people
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discodancer77 posted...

People in China eat dogs, we think thats f***ed

We eat cows, people in India think thats f***ed

We eat pigs, people in the Middle East think thats f***ed

Parts of Europe eat horse, we think thats f***ed

We find drinking cow milk or even the milk of a goat or sheep to be perfectly fine, but its disgusting to think about drinking the milk of a dog, pig, rat or horse

Its all pretty arbitrary and stupid, regardless of any social contract extension towards animals as pets like dogs. Societies all over the world are different so that cant be used as justification for not being okay with eating dogs, if youre gonna be eating other animals

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discodancer77 posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

Nundulan posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

Zikten posted...

We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

We enslaved these animals to do our bidding.

Nah

Sure we did. They're our property. We can do with them as we please as long as it's within the law.

If the internet existed 100+ years ago I wouldnt know if we were talking about animals or black people

the difference of course being dogs arent people

FrenchCrunch posted...

discodancer77 posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

Nundulan posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

Zikten posted...

We made alliances with dogs thousands of years ago. Eating them is a violation of that alliance

We enslaved these animals to do our bidding.

Nah

Sure we did. They're our property. We can do with them as we please as long as it's within the law.

If the internet existed 100+ years ago I wouldnt know if we were talking about animals or black people

the difference of course being dogs arent people

Humans can recognize that eating some animals are wrong. Which ones are wrong depends on where you were raised. Humans also largely recognize that keeping some animals is not ok. Humans will gladly cry out against the death of one dog for a bite, yet eat hundreds or thousands of animals every year without even thinking about it. They get mad about fur farms. They get mad about shark fins and dolphins in fish nets. That same shit and worse happens to every animal to pass a person's lips.

It's wrong to own living beings and cause them to suffer, human or nonhuman animals.
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nothing wrong with eating dog meat from dogs raised for slaughter
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I'm sure many cultures think we're weird for eating chicken. All it is is a cultural difference
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Tyranthraxus posted...

nothing wrong with eating dog meat from dogs raised for slaughter

Hold up. Why is that better to eat a tortured mistreated dog than eating a dog that actually had a good life with a loving family? Because you label it as food and cast it away before anyone cares about it?
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

nothing wrong with eating dog meat from dogs raised for slaughter

Hold up. Why is that better to eat a tortured mistreated dog than eating a dog that actually had a good life with a loving family? Because you label it as food and cast it away before anyone cares about it?

i think he means as opposed to someone's pet man

Morally reprehensible.

Dogs were bred (and actually in the early days, naturally selected) to be loving, loyal companions. Killing and eating them is a betrayal. Fucking psychopaths do that.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

nothing wrong with eating dog meat from dogs raised for slaughter

Hold up. Why is that better to eat a tortured mistreated dog than eating a dog that actually had a good life with a loving family? Because you label it as food and cast it away before anyone cares about it?

i think he means as opposed to someone's pet man

Legally taking anyone's pet is not ok because it's property theft. That's about as much animal protection as you get for most things.

Let's eliminate theft here. Suppose your family sends your dead dog to the butcher. it's cooked up at the end of its life. Would you want to eat it? Would you be appalled?
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It's not inherently wrong or anything. I wouldn't do it unless it was an emergency and I didn't personally know the dog I was eating. I would die and hope my dog eats me in a pinch rather than the reverse.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Legally taking anyone's pet is not ok because it's property theft. That's about as much animal protection as you get for most things.

Let's eliminate theft here. Suppose your family sends your dead dog to the butcher. it's cooked up at the end of its life. Would you want to eat it? Would you be appalled?

if the family is fine with it i wouldnt care. my concern is for the family, not the dog

Doctor Foxx posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

nothing wrong with eating dog meat from dogs raised for slaughter

Hold up. Why is that better to eat a tortured mistreated dog than eating a dog that actually had a good life with a loving family? Because you label it as food and cast it away before anyone cares about it?

I didn't declare that anything was wrong. I just said that there is nothing wrong with a hypothetical dog meat industry.

But to further the point, just cause a dog had a good life doesn't make it okay to eat them. It's okay to eat your own pet if that's what you want. Lots of people raise goats / chickens and eventually eat them. It's not okay to kill and eat someone else's dog, though.
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Does it even taste good?

I'd really like to reiterate my post because it seems like everyone is making arguments that hinge around "oh they were bred for eating". There's no such thing. Mentally they are exactly the same as pet dogs.

weapon_d00d816 posted...

Morally reprehensible.

Dogs were bred (and actually in the early days, naturally selected) to be loving, loyal companions. Killing and eating them is a betrayal. Fucking psychopaths do that.

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i dont think it's possible to betray a dog

FrenchCrunch posted...

i dont think it's possible to betray a dog

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

nothing wrong with eating dog meat from dogs raised for slaughter

Hold up. Why is that better to eat a tortured mistreated dog than eating a dog that actually had a good life with a loving family? Because you label it as food and cast it away before anyone cares about it?

I didn't declare that anything was wrong. I just said that there is nothing wrong with a hypothetical dog meat industry.

But to further the point, just cause a dog had a good life doesn't make it okay to eat them. It's okay to eat your own pet if that's what you want. Lots of people raise goats / chickens and eventually eat them. It's not okay to kill and eat someone else's dog, though.

So why is it ok to eat those other animals and also give them a bad life? Why does breeding an animal with the intention of raising and slaughtering their young for meat suddenly make killing them ok?

Take your family dog. If you breed that dog and intended to raise the puppies to be "meat dogs" does that make killing and eating them ok? If that doesn't seem ok then would it be fine if you bred those pups in the litter to make meat dogs? If that's not ok, when is it fine when you go down a few generations?

Because all those dogs bred to be eaten are descended from pets, if not birthed by them directly. The simple act of owning an animal does not make killing or eating that animal any more moral.

(I don't think anyone claims that stealing someone else's companion is ok... Just why does it become ok to eat these animals if you own them, you do not own the animals you eat in other circumstances)
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Does it even taste good?

Probably not.

It's probably extremely tough to chew and lacks flavor.

The animals we eat are farmed to be excessively fat. a lean healthy animal tastes awful. Like, if you go hunting and just cut a shank off a deer and grill it, it'll be one of the worst things you ever ate. You'll want to cook it in oil or lard to add some fat to make it taste better.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

So why is it ok to eat those other animals and also give them a bad life? Why does breeding an animal with the intention of raising and slaughtering their young for meat suddenly make killing them ok?

Take your family dog. If you breed that dog and intended to raise the puppies to be "meat dogs" does that make killing and eating them ok? If that doesn't seem ok then would it be fine if you bred those pups in the litter to make meat dogs? If that's not ok, when is it fine when you go down a few generations?

Because all those dogs bred to be eaten are descended from pets, if not birthed by them directly. The simple act of owning an animal does not make killing or eating that animal any more moral.

the life an animal lives has no bearing on the morality involved in slaughtering them and eating them.

Animal raised for slaughter means just that. Animal raise for slaughter. It does not mean torture a dog for 8 years. It does not mean pamper a dog for 8 years.

the fact that something is descended from a pet is irrelevant. It only matters whether it is actually someone's pet right now or not. If it is someone's pet, the decision to eat that pet rest entirely with the owner and no one else. How the owner treated their pet is not relevant to the discussion at hand.
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One time a gf of mine and our friends were walking through this huge park when I noticed this group of guys roasting a whole, long animal on a spit. Knowing full well it was a lamb, I told my gf that it looked like a greyhound. She lost her fn mind and ran over screaming at them that they were disgusting monsters and yadda-yadda. I had to apologize to them all and say that she never saw a whole lamb being cooked before. She glared at me with a seething anger I'd never seen before and said, You f***ing knew all along!?

She walked away cussing me out as the group of guys all started laughing, which made me laugh too darn hard. Needless to say, I was in the doghouse for a while after that.

This is 100% true, btw.
CensorErik
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

So why is it ok to eat those other animals and also give them a bad life? Why does breeding an animal with the intention of raising and slaughtering their young for meat suddenly make killing them ok?

Take your family dog. If you breed that dog and intended to raise the puppies to be "meat dogs" does that make killing and eating them ok? If that doesn't seem ok then would it be fine if you bred those pups in the litter to make meat dogs? If that's not ok, when is it fine when you go down a few generations?

Because all those dogs bred to be eaten are descended from pets, if not birthed by them directly. The simple act of owning an animal does not make killing or eating that animal any more moral.

the life an animal lives has no bearing on the morality involved in slaughtering them and eating them.

Animal raised for slaughter means just that. Animal raise for slaughter. It does not mean torture a dog for 8 years. It does not mean pamper a dog for 8 years.

the fact that something is descended from a pet is irrelevant. It only matters whether it is actually someone's pet right now or not. If it is someone's pet, the decision to eat that pet rest entirely with the owner and no one else. How the owner treated their pet is not relevant to the discussion at hand.

So you have the right to choose at birth whether something will be killed for meat or raised with love as a pet? Because you cared for animals that had sex? Fucked up cognitive dissonance and an utterly arbitrary divide.

If you could ask the animal if they're like to die at a fraction of their natural lifespan to be an unnecessary food product or live a long happy life with someone that loves them enough to not call them food, guess what they're going to choose

You may say humans have the right to make that choice. Legally we do. Morally I disagree strongly.
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I prefer cat food
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Doge is fren not eat
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I wouldn't personally do it but I understand why certain cultures might breed dogs for food. Sort of how an Indian might look at me eating beef.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

So you have the right to choose at birth whether something will be killed for meat or raised with love as a pet? Because you cared for animals that had sex? Fucked up cognitive dissonance and an utterly arbitrary divide.

Not at birth.

Where did you get the idea that I said it was from birth?
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I've eaten it. It's not very good.
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