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The Admiral 02/02/18 11:07:21 AM #1:	https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-lefts-rage-and-trumps-peril-1517530358 The State of the Union speech was goodspirited, pointed, with a credible warmth for the heroes in the balcony, who were well chosen. They were beautiful human beings, and their stories were rousingthe cop and his wife who adopted the baby, the hardy North Korean defector who triumphantly waved his crutches, the mourning, dignified parents of the girls killed by MS-13. My beloved Cajun Navy. The thing about the heroes in the balcony is it reminds you not of who the president is but of who we are. With people like that we cant miss. I had that thought when Ronald Reagan gave tribute in 1985 to a young woman who as a child desperately fled Saigon as it fell. She and her family were among the boat people, spotted and saved by a U.S. ship. Reagan called her to stand, and Jean Nguyen stoodproudly, in the gleaming uniform of a West Point cadet. She would graduate within the year. The recognition of heroes in the balcony is called a clich. It certainly is. An inspiring and truthful one, and long may it live. The Democrats in the chamber were slumped, glowery. They had chosen to act out unbroken disdain so as to please the rising left of their party, which was watching and would review their faces. Some of them were poorly lit and seemed not resolute but Draculaic. The women of the party mostly dressed in black, because nothing says moral seriousness like coordinating your outfits. Here it should be said of the rising left of the Democratic Party that they are numerous, committed, and have all the energyits true. But they operate at a disadvantage they cannot see, and it is that they are loveless. The social justice warriors, the advancers of identity politics and gender politics, the young whove just discovered socialismthey run on rage. But rage is a poor fuel in politics. It produces a heavy, sulfurous exhaust and pollutes the air. Its also gets few miles per gallon. It has many powers but not the power to persuade, and if anything does them in it will be that. Their temperament is no better than Mr. Trumps. Its worse. But yes, they are intimidating the Democratic establishment, which robs itself of its dignity trying to please them. It wont succeed. As for the presidents base, I am coming to a somewhat different way of thinking about it. Its true they are a minority, true that his approval ratings are not good, are in fact historically low for a president with a good economy at the end of a first year. But Mr. Trump has just more than a solid third of the nation. They are a spirited, confident core. What other political figure in this fractured, splintered country has a reliable third of the electorate? And its probably somewhat more than a third, because Trump supporters know they are not and will never be respected, and just as in 2016 you have to factor in the idea of shy Trump voters. Been saying similar things to this for a while, but it's completely true. Trump's emotional and juvenile actions are far more similar to the general attitudes of left-wing movements in this U.S. over the past several years than they'd like to acknowledge. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:895310161] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-lefts-rage-and-trumps-peril-1517530358 <quote>The State of the Union speech was goodspirited, pointed, with a credible warmth for the heroes in the balcony, who were well chosen. They were beautiful human beings, and their stories were rousingthe cop and his wife who adopted the baby, the hardy North Korean defector who triumphantly waved his crutches, the mourning, dignified parents of the girls killed by MS-13. My beloved Cajun Navy. The thing about the heroes in the balcony is it reminds you not of who the president is but of who we are. With people like that we cant miss. I had that thought when Ronald Reagan gave tribute in 1985 to a young woman who as a child desperately fled Saigon as it fell. She and her family were among the boat people, spotted and saved by a U.S. ship. Reagan called her to stand, and Jean Nguyen stoodproudly, in the gleaming uniform of a West Point cadet. She would graduate within the year. The recognition of heroes in the balcony is called a clich. It certainly is. An inspiring and truthful one, and long may it live. The Democrats in the chamber were slumped, glowery. They had chosen to act out unbroken disdain so as to please the rising left of their party, which was watching and would review their faces. Some of them were poorly lit and seemed not resolute but Draculaic. The women of the party mostly dressed in black, because nothing says moral seriousness like coordinating your outfits. Here it should be said of the rising left of the Democratic Party that they are numerous, committed, and have all the energyits true. But they operate at a disadvantage they cannot see, and it is that they are loveless. The social justice warriors, the advancers of identity politics and gender politics, the young whove just discovered socialismthey run on rage. But rage is a poor fuel in politics. It produces a heavy, sulfurous exhaust and pollutes the air. Its also gets few miles per gallon. It has many powers but not the power to persuade, and if anything does them in it will be that. Their temperament is no better than Mr. Trumps. Its worse. But yes, they are intimidating the Democratic establishment, which robs itself of its dignity trying to please them. It wont succeed. As for the presidents base, I am coming to a somewhat different way of thinking about it. Its true they are a minority, true that his approval ratings are not good, are in fact historically low for a president with a good economy at the end of a first year. But Mr. Trump has just more than a solid third of the nation. They are a spirited, confident core. What other political figure in this fractured, splintered country has a reliable third of the electorate? And its probably somewhat more than a third, because Trump supporters know they are not and will never be respected, and just as in 2016 you have to factor in the idea of shy Trump voters.</quote> Been saying similar things to this for a while, but it's completely true. Trump's emotional and juvenile actions are far more similar to the general attitudes of left-wing movements in this U.S. over the past several years than they'd like to acknowledge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 02/02/18 11:08:29 AM #2:	Huh, I thought the WSJ was fake news More to the point of the bolded part, my impression is that a lot of Trump's campaign was fueled on rage. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:895310225] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Huh, I thought the WSJ was fake news More to the point of the bolded part, my impression is that a lot of Trump's campaign was fueled on rage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/02/18 11:09:22 AM #3:	Well Trump did win do the strategy has shown to be winnable. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:895310259] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Well Trump did win do the strategy has shown to be winnable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 02/02/18 11:09:42 AM #4:	scar the 1 posted... Huh, I thought the WSJ was fake news it's only fake news when it criticizes the infallible leader. if the media favors Trump, it's genuine. these people have demonstrated this over. and over. and over. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:895310277] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Huh, I thought the WSJ was fake news</quote> it's only fake news when it criticizes the infallible leader. if the media favors Trump, it's genuine. these people have demonstrated this over. and over. and over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacadamianNut3 02/02/18 11:09:47 AM #5:	scar the 1 posted... Huh, I thought the WSJ was fake news More to the point of the bolded part, my impression is that a lot of Trump's campaign was fueled on rage. It's only fake news when they disagree with your agenda from what I've seen --- Roll Tide & Go Irish <cite>MacadamianNut3 posted [p:895310280] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Huh, I thought the WSJ was fake news More to the point of the bolded part, my impression is that a lot of Trump's campaign was fueled on rage.</quote> It's only fake news when they disagree with your agenda from what I've seen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/02/18 11:11:18 AM #6:	Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:895310361] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 02/02/18 11:13:44 AM #7:	Antifar posted... Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow. I don't care about that, but the argument just seems wrong. Politics is all about being angry, especially these days. It does work. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:895310486] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow.</quote> I don't care about that, but the argument just seems wrong. Politics is all about being angry, especially these days. It does work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Donomark 02/02/18 11:17:41 AM #8:	Balrog0 posted... Antifar posted... Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow. I don't care about that, but the argument just seems wrong. Politics is all about being angry, especially these days. It does work. To say that rage doesn't work is just idiotic. The entire last presidential race was all about rage at the establishment. What the hell is she smoking? --- "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ <cite>Donomark posted [p:895310699] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow.</quote> I don't care about that, but the argument just seems wrong. Politics is all about being angry, especially these days. It does work.</quote> To say that rage doesn't work is just idiotic. The entire last presidential race was all about rage at the establishment. What the hell is she smoking?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsYourFault 02/02/18 11:19:42 AM #9:	Conservative rag gonna stump <cite>ItsYourFault posted [p:895310824] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Conservative rag gonna stump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 02/02/18 11:19:59 AM #10:	No shit, they're all corrupt and awful. --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:895310841] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>No shit, they're all corrupt and awful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 02/02/18 11:21:38 AM #11:	What a load of bullshit! You're really gonna sit there a tell me the Republicans aren't equally, if not more so, filled with rage? Isn't this the party that claims to have voted for Trump just to spite liberals? <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:895310940] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>What a load of bullshit! You're really gonna sit there a tell me the Republicans aren't equally, if not more so, filled with rage? Isn't this the party that claims to have voted for Trump just to spite liberals?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 02/02/18 11:21:53 AM #12:	Perhaps instead of saying the fuel is rage or that is anger, it would have made more sense to say the fuel it outrage or that is shock. A very small nuanced difference, but a big one nonetheless. The difference can be illustrated: Trump supporting blue collar worker: upset and angry that he cannot find work Liberal SJW: completely unable to think for the day because a celebrity didn't acknowledge more than two genders or maybe a more poignant example: rage - guy who for the third night in a row has his illegal mexican neighbors play loud music very late and the police do nothing about it outrage - that guy posts about loud music and mexicans online and liberal is shocked and calls him a racist scumbag Now consider this example in relation to policy. Which is more helpful for DACA for instance? The rage of having your neighborhood transform from a quite respite to a loud hellhole because of booming music, or the outrage that someone would suggest things about a nationality (not a race) that may very well be...well true. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:895310949] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Perhaps instead of saying the fuel is rage or that is anger, it would have made more sense to say the fuel it outrage or that is shock. A very small nuanced difference, but a big one nonetheless. The difference can be illustrated: Trump supporting blue collar worker: upset and angry that he cannot find work Liberal SJW: completely unable to think for the day because a celebrity didn't acknowledge more than two genders or maybe a more poignant example: rage - guy who for the third night in a row has his illegal mexican neighbors play loud music very late and the police do nothing about it outrage - that guy posts about loud music and mexicans online and liberal is shocked and calls him a racist scumbag Now consider this example in relation to policy. Which is more helpful for DACA for instance? The rage of having your neighborhood transform from a quite respite to a loud hellhole because of booming music, or the outrage that someone would suggest things about a nationality (not a race) that may very well be...well true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 02/02/18 11:24:10 AM #13:	scar the 1 posted... Huh, I thought the WSJ was fake news --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:895311073] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Huh, I thought the WSJ was fake news</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 02/02/18 11:27:07 AM #14:	darkphoenix181 posted... The difference can be illustrated: Trump supporting blue collar worker: upset and angry that he cannot find work Liberal SJW: completely unable to think for the day because a celebrity didn't acknowledge more than two genders Do you interact with people in real life? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:895311232] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>The difference can be illustrated: Trump supporting blue collar worker: upset and angry that he cannot find work Liberal SJW: completely unable to think for the day because a celebrity didn't acknowledge more than two genders </quote> Do you interact with people in real life?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Im_JustMe0129 02/02/18 11:27:53 AM #15:	Antifar posted... Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow. If they took the time to come here legally and earn their citizenship, they wouldn't have to worry about that. <cite>Im_JustMe0129 posted [p:895311284] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow.</quote> If they took the time to come here legally and earn their citizenship, they wouldn't have to worry about that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 02/02/18 11:28:55 AM #16:	Anteaterking posted... Do you interact with people in real life? He once thought about working up the courage to ask his neighbor to turn the music down, does that count? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:895311335] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>Do you interact with people in real life? </quote> He once thought about working up the courage to ask his neighbor to turn the music down, does that count?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 02/02/18 11:30:33 AM #17:	Anteaterking posted... darkphoenix181 posted... The difference can be illustrated: Trump supporting blue collar worker: upset and angry that he cannot find work Liberal SJW: completely unable to think for the day because a celebrity didn't acknowledge more than two genders Do you interact with people in real life? The old "real people don't think like that, that is only on the internet". smh --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:895311423] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>The difference can be illustrated: Trump supporting blue collar worker: upset and angry that he cannot find work Liberal SJW: completely unable to think for the day because a celebrity didn't acknowledge more than two genders </quote> Do you interact with people in real life?</quote> The old "real people don't think like that, that is only on the internet". smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 02/02/18 11:32:14 AM #18:	darkphoenix181 posted... The old "real people don't think like that, that is only on the internet". smh Even if we pretend such people exist, it still wouldn't be a good representation of the difference that the author is trying to draw. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:895311516] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>The old "real people don't think like that, that is only on the internet". smh</quote> Even if we pretend such people exist, it still wouldn't be a good representation of the difference that the author is trying to draw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 02/02/18 11:35:22 AM #19:	Anteaterking posted... darkphoenix181 posted... The old "real people don't think like that, that is only on the internet". smh Even if we pretend such people exist, it still wouldn't be a good representation of the difference that the author is trying to draw. You're wasting your time. He chose his bubble. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:895311689] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>The old "real people don't think like that, that is only on the internet". smh</quote> Even if we pretend such people exist, it still wouldn't be a good representation of the difference that the author is trying to draw.</quote> You're wasting your time. He chose his bubble.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 02/02/18 11:46:05 AM #20:	What's even the point of sharing opinion section posts? --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:895312337] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>What's even the point of sharing opinion section posts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 02/02/18 11:46:27 AM #21:	Anteaterking posted... Even if we pretend such people exist, it still wouldn't be a good representation of the difference that the author is trying to draw. Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand. hollow_shrine posted... Anteaterking posted... darkphoenix181 posted... The old "real people don't think like that, that is only on the internet". smh Even if we pretend such people exist, it still wouldn't be a good representation of the difference that the author is trying to draw. You're wasting your time. He chose his bubble. The true irony is when the people in the bubble tell others they are in a bubble. Of course you wouldn't think SJW is representative of anything when you refuse to think they exist or that the people you are around are them. In truth, there is nothing bad about being a SJW, it can be a noble cause, the main problem is when they believe they are on the absolute moral high ground and any viewpoint that differs, even slightly, is evil. You know, being in a bubble basically. smh --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:895312362] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote> Even if we pretend such people exist, it still wouldn't be a good representation of the difference that the author is trying to draw.</quote> Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand. <cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>The old "real people don't think like that, that is only on the internet". smh</quote> Even if we pretend such people exist, it still wouldn't be a good representation of the difference that the author is trying to draw.</quote> You're wasting your time. He chose his bubble.</quote> The true irony is when the people in the bubble tell others they are in a bubble. Of course you wouldn't think SJW is representative of anything when you refuse to think they exist or that the people you are around are them. In truth, there is nothing bad about being a SJW, it can be a noble cause, the main problem is when they believe they are on the absolute moral high ground and any viewpoint that differs, even slightly, is evil. You know, being in a bubble basically. smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 02/02/18 11:50:15 AM #22:	Im_JustMe0129 posted... Antifar posted... Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow. If they took the time to come here legally and earn their citizenship, they wouldn't have to worry about that. That's what DACA was for. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:895312605] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Im_JustMe0129 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Clicked link, laughed out loud when I saw Peggy Noonan wrote it. But at any rate, the idea that a left calling for universal healthcare is "loveless" and "running on rage," while Trump backers gleefully awaiting mass deportations are a "spirited, confident core," is a bit too much to swallow.</quote> If they took the time to come here legally and earn their citizenship, they wouldn't have to worry about that.</quote> That's what DACA was for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 02/02/18 11:50:44 AM #23:	darkphoenix181 posted... Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand. The old "i can't be racist, one of my neighbors is black". smh <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:895312637] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand.</quote> The old "i can't be racist, one of my neighbors is black". smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 02/02/18 11:52:23 AM #24:	ThanksUglyGod posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand. The old "i can't be racist, one of my neighbors is black". smh What you just said doesn't even make sense. Read my post again and attempt to understand the message. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:895312743] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand.</quote> The old "i can't be racist, one of my neighbors is black". smh</quote> What you just said doesn't even make sense. Read my post again and attempt to understand the message.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 02/02/18 11:54:28 AM #25:	darkphoenix181 posted... ThanksUglyGod posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand. The old "i can't be racist, one of my neighbors is black". smh What you just said doesn't even make sense. Read my post again and attempt to understand the message. I knew you'd take me literally, so let me rephrase: The old "i can't be close-minded against x, one of my neighbors is x". smh <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:895312863] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand.</quote> The old "i can't be racist, one of my neighbors is black". smh</quote> What you just said doesn't even make sense. Read my post again and attempt to understand the message.</quote> I knew you'd take me literally, so let me rephrase: The old "i can't be close-minded against x, one of my neighbors is x". smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 02/02/18 11:59:09 AM #26:	ThanksUglyGod posted... darkphoenix181 posted... ThanksUglyGod posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand. The old "i can't be racist, one of my neighbors is black". smh What you just said doesn't even make sense. Read my post again and attempt to understand the message. I knew you'd take me literally, so let me rephrase: The old "i can't be close-minded against x, one of my neighbors is x". smh That is also contextually nonsensical. You totally couldn't comprehend the message that two people with varied views can get along and be friends. Hmm...why would that be? hmm. Because you can't get along with people that think differently that you? And what are you saying I am closeminded against? SJWs? That would be an odd argument to make when I in the same post explaining that SJWism can even be good and do good. But hey, if you can't demonize me, someone might think my message is good and actually consider it. Try again for attempt #3. God forbid anyone attempt to logically consider a message. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:895313138] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThanksUglyGod posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand.</quote> The old "i can't be racist, one of my neighbors is black". smh</quote> What you just said doesn't even make sense. Read my post again and attempt to understand the message.</quote> I knew you'd take me literally, so let me rephrase: The old "i can't be close-minded against x, one of my neighbors is x". smh</quote> That is also contextually nonsensical. You totally couldn't comprehend the message that two people with varied views can get along and be friends. Hmm...why would that be? hmm. Because you can't get along with people that think differently that you? And what are you saying I am closeminded against? SJWs? That would be an odd argument to make when I in the same post explaining that SJWism can even be good and do good. But hey, if you can't demonize me, someone might think my message is good and actually consider it. Try again for attempt #3. God forbid anyone attempt to logically consider a message.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/02/18 12:05:36 PM #27:	lilORANG posted... What's even the point of sharing opinion section posts? Why not? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:895313465] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote>What's even the point of sharing opinion section posts?</quote> Why not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 02/02/18 12:08:19 PM #28:	I actually agree that the more extreme SJWs have some of the most toxic, rage-fueled attitudes out there. That said -if were talking extremes, the toxic ragers on the other side are literal neo nazis -I disagree that extreme SJWs are the base, theyre just loud --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:895313626] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>I actually agree that the more extreme SJWs have some of the most toxic, rage-fueled attitudes out there. That said -if were talking extremes, the toxic ragers on the other side are literal neo nazis -I disagree that extreme SJWs are the base, theyre just loud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/02/18 12:11:11 PM #29:	Yeah I think the most toxic and bitter individuals on CE are the extremely far left socialists and social justice warriors. So sounds about right. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:895313796] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I think the most toxic and bitter individuals on CE are the extremely far left socialists and social justice warriors. So sounds about right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 02/02/18 12:13:20 PM #30:	White conservative rage is literally why we have Trump as a president. Lmao get that shit outta here --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:895313927] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>White conservative rage is literally why we have Trump as a president. Lmao get that shit outta here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 02/02/18 12:13:44 PM #31:	Antifar posted... lilORANG posted... What's even the point of sharing opinion section posts? Why not? because opinion pieces are cancer. --- http://i.imgtc.com/qieELu9.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:895313952] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote>What's even the point of sharing opinion section posts?</quote> Why not?</quote> because opinion pieces are cancer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 02/02/18 12:23:42 PM #33:	darkphoenix181 posted... Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand. How is this a response to what I said? The author is not describing bad-tempered as being people paralyzed by referring to two genders and your characterization of the difference between Republican rage and Democratic rage is a completely skewed worldview. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:895314303] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how I not only know people like this in real life, one of them is very good friend of mine. You probably are now really confused. How can someone like me who posts what I just posted be friends with a leftist who hates Trump and constantly puts SJW stuff on facebook? He is also not a citizen. He isn't illegal though. The answer is very simple, but if you keep that outrage mindset, you won't be able to understand.</quote> How is this a response to what I said? The author is not describing bad-tempered as being people paralyzed by referring to two genders and your characterization of the difference between Republican rage and Democratic rage is a completely skewed worldview.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 02/02/18 12:44:40 PM #34:	Mr_Biscuit posted... I actually agree that the more extreme SJWs have some of the most toxic, rage-fueled attitudes out there. That said -if were talking extremes, the toxic ragers on the other side are literal neo nazis -I disagree that extreme SJWs are the base, theyre just loud I'd go further. The alt right actively attempts to make inroads with the the more conventionally accepted conservatives. They want to broaden the overton window and help American conservatism actively embrace it's latent nationalism, antifeminism, etc. Inversely, the far left resists being characterized as normal or conventional at every turn for fear of being appropriated, or politically defanged by social acceptance and losing its purpose. It's suspicious of bureaucratic process as well. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:895314978] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr_Biscuit posted...</cite> <quote>I actually agree that the more extreme SJWs have some of the most toxic, rage-fueled attitudes out there. That said -if were talking extremes, the toxic ragers on the other side are literal neo nazis -I disagree that extreme SJWs are the base, theyre just loud</quote> I'd go further. The alt right actively attempts to make inroads with the the more conventionally accepted conservatives. They want to broaden the overton window and help American conservatism actively embrace it's latent nationalism, antifeminism, etc. Inversely, the far left resists being characterized as normal or conventional at every turn for fear of being appropriated, or politically defanged by social acceptance and losing its purpose. It's suspicious of bureaucratic process as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 02/02/18 12:49:13 PM #35:	The Admiral posted... But rage is a poor fuel in politics. in what world is this true --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:895315245] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>But rage is a poor fuel in politics. </quote> in what world is this true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 02/02/18 12:52:59 PM #36:	darkphoenix181 posted... That is also contextually nonsensical. You totally couldn't comprehend the message that two people with varied views can get along and be friends. Hmm...why would that be? hmm. Because you can't get along with people that think differently that you? And what are you saying I am closeminded against? SJWs? That would be an odd argument to make when I in the same post explaining that SJWism can even be good and do good. But hey, if you can't demonize me, someone might think my message is good and actually consider it. Try again for attempt #3. God forbid anyone attempt to logically consider a message. No, I get that people on opposite ends of the political spectrum can get along and be friends. I've been doing it my whole life. But I was saying you were being close-minded because of this: darkphoenix181 posted... The difference can be illustrated: Trump supporting blue collar worker: upset and angry that he cannot find work Liberal SJW: completely unable to think for the day because a celebrity didn't acknowledge more than two genders or maybe a more poignant example: rage - guy who for the third night in a row has his illegal mexican neighbors play loud music very late and the police do nothing about it outrage - that guy posts about loud music and mexicans online and liberal is shocked and calls him a racist scumbag Which is a pretty biased comparison to make. <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:895315489] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>That is also contextually nonsensical. You totally couldn't comprehend the message that two people with varied views can get along and be friends. Hmm...why would that be? hmm. Because you can't get along with people that think differently that you? And what are you saying I am closeminded against? SJWs? That would be an odd argument to make when I in the same post explaining that SJWism can even be good and do good. But hey, if you can't demonize me, someone might think my message is good and actually consider it. Try again for attempt #3. God forbid anyone attempt to logically consider a message.</quote> No, I get that people on opposite ends of the political spectrum can get along and be friends. I've been doing it my whole life. But I was saying you were being close-minded because of this: <cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>The difference can be illustrated: Trump supporting blue collar worker: upset and angry that he cannot find work Liberal SJW: completely unable to think for the day because a celebrity didn't acknowledge more than two genders or maybe a more poignant example: rage - guy who for the third night in a row has his illegal mexican neighbors play loud music very late and the police do nothing about it outrage - that guy posts about loud music and mexicans online and liberal is shocked and calls him a racist scumbag</quote> Which is a pretty biased comparison to make.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sellerdore 02/02/18 12:53:51 PM #37:	I love Peggy Noonans writing. Her prose is excellent. One of the WSJs best op ed writers IMO --- "Come out to the coast, we'll get together, have a few laughs..." http://www.last.fm/user/kmal415 <cite>sellerdore posted [p:895315540] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>I love Peggy Noonans writing. Her prose is excellent. One of the WSJs best op ed writers IMO</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 02/02/18 1:03:47 PM #39:	So the Democrats have been hijacked by the vocal minority SJW left? --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:895316169] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>So the Democrats have been hijacked by the vocal minority SJW left?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 02/02/18 1:05:06 PM #40:	We literally went through 8 years of conservative rage during Obama's presidency...like, does the right and those who shill for them have such little self awareness? --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:895316229] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>We literally went through 8 years of conservative rage during Obama's presidency...like, does the right and those who shill for them have such little self awareness?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/02/18 1:05:30 PM #41:	Who is FrisbeeDude's main account? --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:895316261] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Who is FrisbeeDude's main account?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hollow_shrine 02/02/18 1:13:05 PM #42:	DragonGirlYuki posted... So the Democrats have been hijacked by the vocal minority SJW left? Apparently, despite our continued propensity to vote for center left candidates, policies, etc. --- Whatever happened to standards? Whatever happened to bare minimums? https://i.imgtc.com/7UnK3hx.jpg <cite>hollow_shrine posted [p:895316720] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>So the Democrats have been hijacked by the vocal minority SJW left?</quote> Apparently, despite our continued propensity to vote for center left candidates, policies, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 02/02/18 1:14:44 PM #43:	Sucks that you have to cater to an extreme vocal minority and risk losing the center leaning people. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:895316823] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Sucks that you have to cater to an extreme vocal minority and risk losing the center leaning people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 02/02/18 1:16:41 PM #44:	hollow_shrine posted... DragonGirlYuki posted... So the Democrats have been hijacked by the vocal minority SJW left? Apparently, despite our continued propensity to vote for center left candidates, policies, etc. --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:895316944] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>hollow_shrine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>So the Democrats have been hijacked by the vocal minority SJW left?</quote> Apparently, despite our continued propensity to vote for center left candidates, policies, etc.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 02/02/18 1:18:23 PM #45:	@FrisbeeDude What is your main account? --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:895317040] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>@FrisbeeDude What is your main account?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 02/02/18 1:18:43 PM #46:	Sucks that so many self confessed centrists feel that the rights and status of minority groups are worth compromising on to gain that self satisfaction they garner from describing things as bi partisan. --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:895317070] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Sucks that so many self confessed centrists feel that the rights and status of minority groups are worth compromising on to gain that self satisfaction they garner from describing things as bi partisan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 02/02/18 1:20:23 PM #47:	"White Americans were so mad at identity politics and being called racist and blamed for everything that we put Trump in the white house!" 5 minutes later "the left really need to learn that rage is an impotent political force" --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:895317180] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>"White Americans were so mad at identity politics and being called racist and blamed for everything that we put Trump in the white house!" 5 minutes later "the left really need to learn that rage is an impotent political force"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 02/02/18 1:20:47 PM #48:	It also sucks that the wishes of the majority are being detailed by a vocal minority. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:895317208] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>It also sucks that the wishes of the majority are being detailed by a vocal minority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 02/02/18 1:27:43 PM #49:	Centrists = fascist enablers --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:895317657] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote>Centrists = fascist enablers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 02/02/18 2:16:19 PM #51:	NinjaBreakfast posted... "White Americans were so mad at identity politics and being called racist and blamed for everything that we put Trump in the white house!" 5 minutes later "the left really need to learn that rage is an impotent political force" SO MUCH THIS --- alt-right is not synonymous with "white supremacist" or "neo-Nazi,"- The Admiral <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:895320773] in WSJ: The D... [t:76273612]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaBreakfast posted...</cite> <quote>"White Americans were so mad at identity politics and being called racist and blamed for everything that we put Trump in the white house!" 5 minutes later "the left really need to learn that rage is an impotent political force"</quote> SO MUCH THIS</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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