Poll of the Day > this innocent autistic man is accused of murder

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Zikten 02/03/18 2:16:19 PM #1:	http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2017/12/nathan_carman_denies_role_in_deaths_of_mom_grandfather saw a documentary about him last week and his mom was the only human in the world that loved him. it makes no sense to kill her. the rest of his family always hated him for his disorder. And the people in his town all think he did it, just cause he's that weird kid. Duckbear accused him of murder days ago and the guy needs some support in his corner. If he gets charged, this will be the next Amanda Knox trial. And it will reveal bigotry against autistic people in the world. <cite>Zikten posted [p:895380810] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2017/12/nathan_carman_denies_role_in_deaths_of_mom_grandfather saw a documentary about him last week and his mom was the only human in the world that loved him. it makes no sense to kill her. the rest of his family always hated him for his disorder. And the people in his town all think he did it, just cause he's that weird kid. Duckbear accused him of murder days ago and the guy needs some support in his corner. If he gets charged, this will be the next Amanda Knox trial. And it will reveal bigotry against autistic people in the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 02/03/18 2:18:38 PM #2:	naive --- You think you've Got problems? http://i.imgur.com/vgckRUN.jpg <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:895380941] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>naive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/03/18 2:19:05 PM #3:	Nathan, eh? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:895380960] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>Nathan, eh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 2:19:36 PM #4:	Lokarin posted... Nathan, eh? yep. I know what you are thinking <cite>Zikten posted [p:895380990] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Nathan, eh?</quote> yep. I know what you are thinking</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/03/18 2:21:30 PM #5:	Zikten posted... If he gets charged, this will be the next Amanda Knox trial. Foxy Knoxy was guilty, though. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:895381104] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>If he gets charged, this will be the next Amanda Knox trial.</quote> Foxy Knoxy was guilty, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 2:22:40 PM #6:	I always believed she is innocent and she won her final trial. the supreme court of italy set her free. it was all circumstantial evidence and corrupt italian cops that wanted to nail an american. of course her dna was there, she lived there. there is zero proof she did it we got more coverage where i was in Washington, because she is from seattle. the rest of the nation just glanced at it. Washington was obsessed with the story though <cite>Zikten posted [p:895381164] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>I always believed she is innocent and she won her final trial. the supreme court of italy set her free. it was all circumstantial evidence and corrupt italian cops that wanted to nail an american. of course her dna was there, she lived there. there is zero proof she did it we got more coverage where i was in Washington, because she is from seattle. the rest of the nation just glanced at it. Washington was obsessed with the story though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/03/18 2:26:08 PM #7:	What exactly makes you so sure he is innocent? Because you feel bad for him? This is like how you insisted chelle was real for the longest time because you had had conversations with her --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:895381358] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>What exactly makes you so sure he is innocent? Because you feel bad for him? This is like how you insisted chelle was real for the longest time because you had had conversations with her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 2:28:29 PM #8:	Mead posted... What exactly makes you so sure he is innocent? Because you feel bad for him? This is like how you insisted chelle was real for the longest time because you had had conversations with her I saw the documentary that told his side and interviewed him. and it showed how his entire family and the whole town has never liked him and hates him for his disorder. his family shunned him even before his mom died. and because again, it makes no sense for someone to murder the only person in the world that likes them. all witnesses, even those claiming he did it, admit he was very close to his mother. <cite>Zikten posted [p:895381461] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>What exactly makes you so sure he is innocent? Because you feel bad for him? This is like how you insisted chelle was real for the longest time because you had had conversations with her</quote> I saw the documentary that told his side and interviewed him. and it showed how his entire family and the whole town has never liked him and hates him for his disorder. his family shunned him even before his mom died. and because again, it makes no sense for someone to murder the only person in the world that likes them. all witnesses, even those claiming he did it, admit he was very close to his mother.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/03/18 2:29:23 PM #9:	Zikten posted... I always believed she is innocent and she won her final trial. the supreme court of italy set her free. it was all circumstantial evidence and corrupt italian cops that wanted to nail an american. of course her dna was there, she lived there. there is zero proof she did it And the cops were just after OJ because he was a black guy. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:895381501] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I always believed she is innocent and she won her final trial. the supreme court of italy set her free. it was all circumstantial evidence and corrupt italian cops that wanted to nail an american. of course her dna was there, she lived there. there is zero proof she did it</quote> And the cops were just after OJ because he was a black guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 02/03/18 2:41:30 PM #10:	Zikten posted... Mead posted... What exactly makes you so sure he is innocent? Because you feel bad for him? This is like how you insisted chelle was real for the longest time because you had had conversations with her I saw the documentary that told his side and interviewed him. and it showed how his entire family and the whole town has never liked him and hates him for his disorder. his family shunned him even before his mom died. and because again, it makes no sense for someone to murder the only person in the world that likes them. all witnesses, even those claiming he did it, admit he was very close to his mother. Have you never heard of domestic violence? People hurt and sometimes kill those closest to them every day. People who are kind and loving. This kid in the documentary is probably guilty as sin. --- https://i.imgur.com/ZwO4qO2.gifv Bluer than velvet was the night... Softer than satin was the light... From the stars... <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:895382094] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>What exactly makes you so sure he is innocent? Because you feel bad for him? This is like how you insisted chelle was real for the longest time because you had had conversations with her</quote> I saw the documentary that told his side and interviewed him. and it showed how his entire family and the whole town has never liked him and hates him for his disorder. his family shunned him even before his mom died. and because again, it makes no sense for someone to murder the only person in the world that likes them. all witnesses, even those claiming he did it, admit he was very close to his mother.</quote> Have you never heard of domestic violence? People hurt and sometimes kill those closest to them every day. People who are kind and loving. This kid in the documentary is probably guilty as sin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 02/03/18 2:47:01 PM #11:	most murders are domestic, done by close friends or familys anyway.. --- You think you've Got problems? http://i.imgur.com/vgckRUN.jpg <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:895382392] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>most murders are domestic, done by close friends or familys anyway..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 3:05:03 PM #12:	Far-Queue posted... This kid in the documentary is probably guilty as sin. what do you have to base this on? he didn't attack her in the house. it was a boat accident and only he survived. show me the proof that he caused her to drown. <cite>Zikten posted [p:895383297] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Far-Queue posted...</cite> <quote> This kid in the documentary is probably guilty as sin.</quote> what do you have to base this on? he didn't attack her in the house. it was a boat accident and only he survived. show me the proof that he caused her to drown.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 3:06:05 PM #13:	Kimbos_Egg posted... most murders are domestic, done by close friends or familys anyway.. yea but those people have someone else to fall back on. this guy had nobody. without his mom the entire world is against him. it always was and his mom was his shield. his mom was important to his survival. killing his mom is like someone ripping their space suit off in space. <cite>Zikten posted [p:895383341] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kimbos_Egg posted...</cite> <quote>most murders are domestic, done by close friends or familys anyway..</quote> yea but those people have someone else to fall back on. this guy had nobody. without his mom the entire world is against him. it always was and his mom was his shield. his mom was important to his survival. killing his mom is like someone ripping their space suit off in space.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/03/18 3:06:14 PM #14:	Zikten you would be the worst cop in history This guy couldnt have committed the crime, he says he didnt do it --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:895383350] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>Zikten you would be the worst cop in history This guy couldnt have committed the crime, he says he didnt do it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 3:07:32 PM #15:	I was right about Amanda Knox and I am right about this guy. sometimes things just smell dirty <cite>Zikten posted [p:895383410] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>I was right about Amanda Knox and I am right about this guy. sometimes things just smell dirty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 02/03/18 3:11:29 PM #16:	Zikten posted... If he gets charged, this will be the next Amanda Knox trial. The woman who thought she could flee from an appeal by the state? Thinking the American notion of "Double Jeopardy Protection" also applied to her abroad? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:895383629] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote> If he gets charged, this will be the next Amanda Knox trial.</quote> The woman who thought she could flee from an appeal by the state? Thinking the American notion of "Double Jeopardy Protection" also applied to her abroad?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 02/03/18 3:12:29 PM #17:	I'm. It sure he did it, either. Because nobody knows what happened. And he hasn't gone to trial yet. Maybe we should let him go to trial before burning him at the stake, guys. --- 3DS Friend Code: 4742 6214 5315 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. 0001 3388 9537, also. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:895383691] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>I'm. It sure he did it, either. Because nobody knows what happened. And he hasn't gone to trial yet. Maybe we should let him go to trial before burning him at the stake, guys.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 3:15:29 PM #18:	Nichtcrawler X posted... The woman who thought she could flee from an appeal by the state? Thinking the American notion of "Double Jeopardy Protection" also applied to her abroad? she won her trial. she was deemed innocent. there is no evidence she did it. get over it. not every american is a monster and you cant just throw tourists in prison and the cops that initially arrested her were scummy as hell. they just wanted to punish an american. <cite>Zikten posted [p:895383882] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote>The woman who thought she could flee from an appeal by the state? Thinking the American notion of "Double Jeopardy Protection" also applied to her abroad?</quote> she won her trial. she was deemed innocent. there is no evidence she did it. get over it. not every american is a monster and you cant just throw tourists in prison and the cops that initially arrested her were scummy as hell. they just wanted to punish an american.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sveksii 02/03/18 3:16:45 PM #19:	Zikten posted... his family shunned him even before his mom died. and because again, it makes no sense for someone to murder the only person in the world that likes them. all witnesses, even those claiming he did it, admit he was very close to his mother. People do illogical and self-harming things all the time. That it doesn't make sense that he would do it isn't a valid argument for his innocence. <cite>sveksii posted [p:895383960] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>his family shunned him even before his mom died. and because again, it makes no sense for someone to murder the only person in the world that likes them. all witnesses, even those claiming he did it, admit he was very close to his mother.</quote>People do illogical and self-harming things all the time. That it doesn't make sense that he would do it isn't a valid argument for his innocence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JazzMasterZero 02/03/18 3:16:55 PM #20:	I watched that documentary as well and that dude totally killed his mom. His family and people in the town didnt like him because he was a weird sociopath. <cite>JazzMasterZero posted [p:895383971] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>I watched that documentary as well and that dude totally killed his mom. His family and people in the town didnt like him because he was a weird sociopath.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 3:18:56 PM #21:	JazzMasterZero posted... I watched that documentary as well and that dude totally killed his mom. His family and people in the town didnt like him because he was a weird sociopath. their big "evidence" is that he didn't show enough emotion after the rescue. he was in shock, and he has autism. cut him some slack. explain why the aunts didn't go to the funeral? their own sister? they don't really care about their sister. they just are after money I think. <cite>Zikten posted [p:895384070] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>JazzMasterZero posted...</cite> <quote>I watched that documentary as well and that dude totally killed his mom. His family and people in the town didnt like him because he was a weird sociopath.</quote> their big "evidence" is that he didn't show enough emotion after the rescue. he was in shock, and he has autism. cut him some slack. explain why the aunts didn't go to the funeral? their own sister? they don't really care about their sister. they just are after money I think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 02/03/18 3:38:13 PM #22:	Zikten posted... JazzMasterZero posted... I watched that documentary as well and that dude totally killed his mom. His family and people in the town didnt like him because he was a weird sociopath. their big "evidence" is that he didn't show enough emotion after the rescue. he was in shock, and he has autism. cut him some slack. explain why the aunts didn't go to the funeral? their own sister? they don't really care about their sister. they just are after money I think. This actually does make sense. I remember hearing they didn't even go. I recently had a great-grandma who died. I barely had any money. And still found a way to make it to the funeral... --- 3DS Friend Code: 4742 6214 5315 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. 0001 3388 9537, also. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:895385158] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JazzMasterZero posted...</cite> <quote>I watched that documentary as well and that dude totally killed his mom. His family and people in the town didnt like him because he was a weird sociopath.</quote> their big "evidence" is that he didn't show enough emotion after the rescue. he was in shock, and he has autism. cut him some slack. explain why the aunts didn't go to the funeral? their own sister? they don't really care about their sister. they just are after money I think.</quote> This actually does make sense. I remember hearing they didn't even go. I recently had a great-grandma who died. I barely had any money. And still found a way to make it to the funeral...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/03/18 5:18:20 PM #23:	Zikten posted... I was right about Amanda Knox and I am right about this guy. sometimes things just smell dirty The fact that Amanda Knox went free doesn't mean you were right, any more than the fact that OJ went free means that he's innocent. Guilty people DO go free. They sometimes even confess to having done it after they're free. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43992199/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/suspect-confesses-murder-after-acquittal/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/01/man-found-not-guilty-admits-killing/70800518/ While I can't say 100% that Amanda Knox or OJ was guilty, all signs point to yes. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:895390647] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I was right about Amanda Knox and I am right about this guy. sometimes things just smell dirty</quote> The fact that Amanda Knox went free doesn't mean you were right, any more than the fact that OJ went free means that he's innocent. Guilty people DO go free. They sometimes even confess to having done it after they're free. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/43992199/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/suspect-confesses-murder-after-acquittal/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/01/man-found-not-guilty-admits-killing/70800518/ While I can't say 100% that Amanda Knox or OJ was guilty, all signs point to yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 5:19:17 PM #24:	so what is your theory on Amanda Knox. what evidence proves she did it? <cite>Zikten posted [p:895390689] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>so what is your theory on Amanda Knox. what evidence proves she did it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/03/18 5:42:30 PM #25:	Zikten posted... so what is your theory on Amanda Knox. what evidence proves she did it? That she was in on it. And, just like with the OJ case, it's been over a decade so the details are now hazy although, both now and at the time, people in this country cared more about her status as an American citizen than the half-baked, hole-ridden stories she told. The convicted murderer certainly implicated her. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:895391798] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>so what is your theory on Amanda Knox. what evidence proves she did it?</quote> That she was in on it. And, just like with the OJ case, it's been over a decade so the details are now hazy although, both now and at the time, people in this country cared more about her status as an American citizen than the half-baked, hole-ridden stories she told. The convicted murderer certainly implicated her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/03/18 5:52:23 PM #26:	It wasn't fair that the media in Europe used her Foxy Knoxy name to villianize her. That was a nickname given to her by her family and it didn't mean what they thought it meant <cite>Zikten posted [p:895392318] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>It wasn't fair that the media in Europe used her Foxy Knoxy name to villianize her. That was a nickname given to her by her family and it didn't mean what they thought it meant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/03/18 5:55:22 PM #27:	You being right about one thing in no way means you are right about this as well Youre just guessing --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:895392472] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>You being right about one thing in no way means you are right about this as well Youre just guessing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Golden Road 02/03/18 6:20:54 PM #28:	There was never any credible evidence that Amanda Knox had anything to do with the murder. I'm not sure why they were so desperate to convict her and her boyfriend, especially when they actually did find the actual murderer, and they were still trying desperately to involve her and her boyfriend on that murder based on nothing. --- Who's your favorite character from "Bend It Like Beckham"? And you can't say Beckham. <cite>Golden Road posted [p:895393782] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>There was never any credible evidence that Amanda Knox had anything to do with the murder. I'm not sure why they were so desperate to convict her and her boyfriend, especially when they actually did find the actual murderer, and they were still trying desperately to involve her and her boyfriend on that murder based on nothing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oaklight 02/03/18 6:32:46 PM #29:	As someone on the spectrum who feels guilty when killing a fly, I could not even imagine hurting my family whom I am incredibly close too. I can't speak for this guy, but if he's innocent, I hope the best for him. I do wonder why nobody liked him though. People generally like me as far as I know, so I wonder what he did to deserve being ostracized. Hopefully situations like this don't lead to further stigmatization of people on the spectrum. Most of us are just normal people like everyone else, we just have some issues socializing with people. --- He's covered from head to toe in weaponry. Like a rainbow apocalypse <cite>Oaklight posted [p:895394417] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>As someone on the spectrum who feels guilty when killing a fly, I could not even imagine hurting my family whom I am incredibly close too. I can't speak for this guy, but if he's innocent, I hope the best for him. I do wonder why nobody liked him though. People generally like me as far as I know, so I wonder what he did to deserve being ostracized. Hopefully situations like this don't lead to further stigmatization of people on the spectrum. Most of us are just normal people like everyone else, we just have some issues socializing with people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 02/03/18 6:34:10 PM #30:	Zikten posted... I always believed she is innocent she literally killed her baby, dude. oh i'm thinking of the other chick who killed her baby and got off scott free because the jury was paid off <cite>likehelly posted [p:895394484] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I always believed she is innocent</quote> she literally killed her baby, dude. oh i'm thinking of the other chick who killed her baby and got off scott free because the jury was paid off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 02/05/18 10:54:29 PM #31:	Mead posted... What exactly makes you so sure he is innocent? Because you feel bad for him? This is a Zikten topic. I assume it's like looking into a mirror for him. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:895544677] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>What exactly makes you so sure he is innocent? Because you feel bad for him?</quote> This is a Zikten topic. I assume it's like looking into a mirror for him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 02/05/18 11:01:09 PM #32:	likehelly posted... Zikten posted... I always believed she is innocent she literally killed her baby, dude. oh i'm thinking of the other chick who killed her baby and got off scott free because the jury was paid off that's casey anthony. amanda knox was an america student abroad in italy who got accused of murder. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:895545065] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>I always believed she is innocent</quote> she literally killed her baby, dude. oh i'm thinking of the other chick who killed her baby and got off scott free because the jury was paid off</quote> that's casey anthony. amanda knox was an america student abroad in italy who got accused of murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 02/05/18 11:53:07 PM #33:	doesn't mean he couldn't have committed a murder. just because it's murder doesn't mean it was pre-meditated or even intentional. --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:895547988] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>doesn't mean he couldn't have committed a murder. just because it's murder doesn't mean it was pre-meditated or even intentional.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/05/18 11:57:58 PM #34:	People also kill people that they love all the time --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:895548216] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>People also kill people that they love all the time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 02/06/18 12:01:45 AM #35:	Mead posted... People also kill people that they love all the time You're more likely to be killed by someone you love than strangers Especially women and family members killing them --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:895548414] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>People also kill people that they love all the time</quote> You're more likely to be killed by someone you love than strangers Especially women and family members killing them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FourthDimension 02/06/18 12:26:49 AM #36:	yea he looks like a nathan <cite>FourthDimension posted [p:895549495] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>yea he looks like a nathan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 02/06/18 1:16:34 AM #37:	FourthDimension posted... yea he looks like a nathan What's this nathan meme anyway? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:895551593] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>FourthDimension posted...</cite> <quote>yea he looks like a nathan</quote> What's this nathan meme anyway?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 02/06/18 1:17:24 AM #38:	I think Zikten is just fine with people with autism doing bad things. They have autism, so it's acceptable. --- "We're not even close" - Romans building Rome at the end of Day 1 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:895551627] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>I think Zikten is just fine with people with autism doing bad things. They have autism, so it's acceptable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 02/06/18 1:19:38 AM #39:	Smarkil posted... I think Zikten is just fine with people with autism doing bad things. They have autism, so it's acceptable. it's that I honestly think he's innocent. that was my decision after I watched the show on him. there is no evidence he did it. it's just speculation. and people are pointing to his actions and weird behaviors but it's just autistic stuff he's doing. <cite>Tezlok posted [p:895551719] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>I think Zikten is just fine with people with autism doing bad things. They have autism, so it's acceptable.</quote> it's that I honestly think he's innocent. that was my decision after I watched the show on him. there is no evidence he did it. it's just speculation. and people are pointing to his actions and weird behaviors but it's just autistic stuff he's doing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 02/06/18 1:21:01 AM #40:	Tezlok posted... Smarkil posted... I think Zikten is just fine with people with autism doing bad things. They have autism, so it's acceptable. it's that I honestly think he's innocent. that was my decision after I watched the show on him. there is no evidence he did it. it's just speculation. and people are pointing to his actions and weird behaviors but it's just autistic stuff he's doing. You say that every time a case involves an autistic person --- "We're not even close" - Romans building Rome at the end of Day 1 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:895551771] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>I think Zikten is just fine with people with autism doing bad things. They have autism, so it's acceptable.</quote> it's that I honestly think he's innocent. that was my decision after I watched the show on him. there is no evidence he did it. it's just speculation. and people are pointing to his actions and weird behaviors but it's just autistic stuff he's doing.</quote> You say that every time a case involves an autistic person</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 02/06/18 1:21:37 AM #41:	when I have ever talked about another case with autistic person? this seems like the first. autistic people don't usually pop up in the news. <cite>Tezlok posted [p:895551800] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>when I have ever talked about another case with autistic person? this seems like the first. autistic people don't usually pop up in the news.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 02/06/18 1:23:05 AM #42:	Tezlok posted... when I have ever talked about another case with autistic person? this seems like the first. autistic people don't usually pop up in the news. you said that when the autistic kid flipped his shit after a cop touched him and I seem to recall at least one other time but don't remember off the top of my head what it was --- "We're not even close" - Romans building Rome at the end of Day 1 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:895551849] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote>when I have ever talked about another case with autistic person? this seems like the first. autistic people don't usually pop up in the news.</quote> you said that when the autistic kid flipped his shit after a cop touched him and I seem to recall at least one other time but don't remember off the top of my head what it was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 02/06/18 1:25:34 AM #43:	Smarkil posted... you said that when the autistic kid flipped his shit after a cop touched him I....am not sure if I remember this. what was the incident about before the cop touched him? did this happen at a school or something? the one I remember was a man playing with a toy in the street (this was heavy autism) and cops ended up shooting his doctor who happened to be black. but that was more about the doctor than the autistic man. <cite>Tezlok posted [p:895551949] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>you said that when the autistic kid flipped his shit after a cop touched him</quote> I....am not sure if I remember this. what was the incident about before the cop touched him? did this happen at a school or something? the one I remember was a man playing with a toy in the street (this was heavy autism) and cops ended up shooting his doctor who happened to be black. but that was more about the doctor than the autistic man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 02/06/18 1:26:50 AM #44:	oh ok. after a google search I think I remember now. the cops tackled a kid. he was walking down the street doing nothing and they hassled him. yea, I still stand by that. he was innocent too. I'm not gonna say "ok this one was guilty maybe cause the last one was innocent. so by law of averages I bet this one did something". if I think they are innocent, I think they are innocent. and it's a fact that people often misunderstand autistic people. <cite>Tezlok posted [p:895551995] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>oh ok. after a google search I think I remember now. the cops tackled a kid. he was walking down the street doing nothing and they hassled him. yea, I still stand by that. he was innocent too. I'm not gonna say "ok this one was guilty maybe cause the last one was innocent. so by law of averages I bet this one did something". if I think they are innocent, I think they are innocent. and it's a fact that people often misunderstand autistic people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/06/18 1:29:50 AM #45:	Theres no denying that the cop that tackled the autistic teen was completely in the wrong --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:895552104] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>Theres no denying that the cop that tackled the autistic teen was completely in the wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 02/06/18 1:36:11 AM #46:	Mead posted... Theres no denying that the cop that tackled the autistic teen was completely in the wrong Yes there is. The cop didn't do anything wrong. Neither did the autistic kid. But that's not the point here. Tezlok posted... I'm not gonna say "ok this one was guilty maybe cause the last one was innocent. so by law of averages I bet this one did something". if I think they are innocent, I think they are innocent. and it's a fact that people often misunderstand autistic people. Do people often misunderstand murder? Because that seems like a pretty cut and dry deal. --- "We're not even close" - Romans building Rome at the end of Day 1 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:895552312] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Theres no denying that the cop that tackled the autistic teen was completely in the wrong</quote> Yes there is. The cop didn't do anything wrong. Neither did the autistic kid. But that's not the point here. <cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not gonna say "ok this one was guilty maybe cause the last one was innocent. so by law of averages I bet this one did something". if I think they are innocent, I think they are innocent. and it's a fact that people often misunderstand autistic people. </quote> Do people often misunderstand murder? Because that seems like a pretty cut and dry deal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 02/06/18 1:37:59 AM #47:	you can't prove he did. and it was a boat accident. she drowned. he survived. show me the evidence that he somehow killed her. if there was any evidence the cops would have charged him. <cite>Tezlok posted [p:895552369] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>you can't prove he did. and it was a boat accident. she drowned. he survived. show me the evidence that he somehow killed her. if there was any evidence the cops would have charged him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 02/06/18 1:41:13 AM #48:	murder doesn't just mean it was planned or in the heat of the moment... and just because someone hasn't be charged doesn't mean they didn't do it. once they charge someone they have to have a preliminary hearing to see if/when a trial should take place. they might not have enough evidence for a trial yet. --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:895552481] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>murder doesn't just mean it was planned or in the heat of the moment... and just because someone hasn't be charged doesn't mean they didn't do it. once they charge someone they have to have a preliminary hearing to see if/when a trial should take place. they might not have enough evidence for a trial yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 02/06/18 1:43:48 AM #49:	yea but again, there is no evidence. I saw an entire hour long special on this guy, and they never produced any actual proof that he did it. it was just a bunch of speculation <cite>Tezlok posted [p:895552562] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote>yea but again, there is no evidence. I saw an entire hour long special on this guy, and they never produced any actual proof that he did it. it was just a bunch of speculation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/06/18 1:51:04 AM #50:	Smarkil posted... The cop didn't do anything wrong. He violently assaulted and detained a minor for no other reason that he thought the teen was acting strange and started to walk away from him. Even after he was told what was going on he kept holding the kid down to the ground while he cried for help. There was no reason for him to be harassed to begin with. He was in his own neighborhood not harming anyone. Bad cop, no donut --- All praise Mead <cite>Mead posted [p:895552815] in this innoc... [t:76278038]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>The cop didn't do anything wrong.</quote> He violently assaulted and detained a minor for no other reason that he thought the teen was acting strange and started to walk away from him. Even after he was told what was going on he kept holding the kid down to the ground while he cried for help. There was no reason for him to be harassed to begin with. He was in his own neighborhood not harming anyone. Bad cop, no donut </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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