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Zodd3224 02/04/18 11:03:22 AM #51:	Tmk posted... Sayoria posted... One of these days! Just so you know, the mental image I had for that involved you wearing a giant oversized bow in your hair for no apparent reason while gesturing "shhh" and apparently topless but with a large [this was deleted by a moderator or administrator] covering your chest on the cover of the imaginary magazine. I don't know why the universe cursed me with this overly visual imagination. Oh my... --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:895431605] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>One of these days!</quote> Just so you know, the mental image I had for that involved you wearing a giant oversized bow in your hair for no apparent reason while gesturing "shhh" and apparently topless but with a large [this was deleted by a moderator or administrator] covering your chest on the cover of the imaginary magazine. I don't know why the universe cursed me with this overly visual imagination.</quote> Oh my... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:06:35 AM #52:	Patty_Fleur posted... I agree but you can't take away the fact he was suspended for 4 games. It happened. If he was never suspended the scandal should go away but he was so... I've never understood this logic. Is the NFL or Roger gooddell infallible? Because if not, then this makes no sense at all. Plus Brady was suspended for not cooperating enough, since science proved be didn't deflate shit. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895431750] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Patty_Fleur posted...</cite> <quote> I agree but you can't take away the fact he was suspended for 4 games. It happened. If he was never suspended the scandal should go away but he was so...</quote> I've never understood this logic. Is the NFL or Roger gooddell infallible? Because if not, then this makes no sense at all. Plus Brady was suspended for not cooperating enough, since science proved be didn't deflate shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 02/04/18 11:09:43 AM #53:	Tmk posted... I haven't seen any images of you. Or just about anyone here. It's not really something I seek out. People are scary, after all. Ah, okay --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:895431899] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmk posted...</cite> <quote>I haven't seen any images of you. Or just about anyone here. It's not really something I seek out. People are scary, after all.</quote> Ah, okay</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:16:46 AM #54:	Zodd3224 posted... Vertania posted... Patty_Fleur posted... I agree but you can't take away the fact he was suspended for 4 games. It happened. If he was never suspended the scandal should go away but he was so... There's also the time Belichick was fined $500,000 for spying on other teams' practices. That's the highest fine the NFL ever handed out to an individual. Even if the deflated ball thing wasn't a big deal (they were going to win that game anyway), it pissed people off because the Patriots have a history of cheating and practically getting away with it. Getting away with it = highest fine in history, multiple high draft picks taken away, and 4 game ban for PSI in footballs he may or may not have even known about, lmfao Not to mention it had nothing to do with recording practices because that never happened. Spygate was about the pats having a cameraman in an unauthorized position on the girls during actual games. He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. The fact that people still don't know what spygate was.about and say ridiculous things like this is irritating That said,even though I'm a Brady and Belichick fan, if they win this one I'll pretty much have had my fill of them and will start to root against them. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895432224] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patty_Fleur posted...</cite> <quote>I agree but you can't take away the fact he was suspended for 4 games. It happened. If he was never suspended the scandal should go away but he was so...</quote> There's also the time Belichick was fined $500,000 for spying on other teams' practices. That's the highest fine the NFL ever handed out to an individual. Even if the deflated ball thing wasn't a big deal (they were going to win that game anyway), it pissed people off because the Patriots have a history of cheating and practically getting away with it.</quote> Getting away with it = highest fine in history, multiple high draft picks taken away, and 4 game ban for PSI in footballs he may or may not have even known about, lmfao</quote> Not to mention it had nothing to do with recording practices because that never happened. Spygate was about the pats having a cameraman in an unauthorized position on the girls during actual games. He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. The fact that people still don't know what spygate was.about and say ridiculous things like this is irritating That said,even though I'm a Brady and Belichick fan, if they win this one I'll pretty much have had my fill of them and will start to root against them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 02/04/18 11:17:01 AM #55:	Tmks nipples are getting all tingly. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:895432237] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote>Tmks nipples are getting all tingly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 02/04/18 11:17:51 AM #56:	Keith_Valentine posted... Tmks nipples are getting all tingly. Mine too tbh --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:895432276] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Keith_Valentine posted...</cite> <quote>Tmks nipples are getting all tingly.</quote> Mine too tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmk 02/04/18 11:19:39 AM #57:	I don't have nipples actually. I lost them in the war. --- I am snazzier, hot, hot rant. Warily slight as. Croak rush, OK? Weirder, almighty make out. ::) <cite>Tmk posted [p:895432362] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote>I don't have nipples actually. I lost them in the war.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/04/18 11:21:07 AM #58:	nicklebro posted... He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:895432433] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see.</quote> This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:22:39 AM #59:	iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about. I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895432504] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see.</quote> This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about.</quote> I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:25:40 AM #60:	https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_New_England_Patriots_videotaping_controversy The 2007 New England Patriots videotaping controversy, widely dubbed "Spygate",[1][2] refers to an incident during the National Football League's (NFL) 2007 season when the New England Patriots were disciplined by the league for videotaping New York Jets' defensive coaches' signals from an unauthorized location during a September 9, 2007 game. Videotaping opposing coaches is not illegal in the NFL de jure, but there are designated areas allowed by the league to do such taping. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895432644] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_New_England_Patriots_videotaping_controversy <quote>The 2007 New England Patriots videotaping controversy, widely dubbed "Spygate",[1][2] refers to an incident during the National Football League's (NFL) 2007 season when the New England Patriots were disciplined by the league for videotaping New York Jets' defensive coaches' signals from an unauthorized location during a September 9, 2007 game. Videotaping opposing coaches is not illegal in the NFL de jure, but there are designated areas allowed by the league to do such taping. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/04/18 11:26:01 AM #61:	nicklebro posted... iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about. I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense. There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:895432661] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see.</quote> This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about.</quote> I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense.</quote> There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 02/04/18 11:26:20 AM #62:	iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about. Patriots fans are on a whole other level of denial, lol. Like, all the things that legitimately actually happened, and the Patriots got caught doing, didn't happen. Belichek was reading the opposing team's playbooks? Nope! Patriots actually admitted that their employee did, in fact, deflate the footballs? Nope! --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:895432680] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see.</quote> This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about.</quote> Patriots fans are on a whole other level of denial, lol. Like, all the things that legitimately actually happened, and the Patriots got caught doing, didn't happen. Belichek was reading the opposing team's playbooks? Nope! Patriots actually admitted that their employee did, in fact, deflate the footballs? Nope!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 02/04/18 11:27:05 AM #63:	iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about. I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense. There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as. Nope you have a tin foil hat on sorry --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:895432705] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see.</quote> This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about.</quote> I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense.</quote> There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as.</quote> Nope you have a tin foil hat on sorry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Keith_Valentine 02/04/18 11:27:35 AM #64:	Tmk posted... I don't have nipples actually. I lost them in the war. A lot of good men lost their nipples back then. I barely escaped with mine. <cite>Keith_Valentine posted [p:895432739] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmk posted...</cite> <quote>I don't have nipples actually. I lost them in the war.</quote> A lot of good men lost their nipples back then. I barely escaped with mine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/04/18 11:28:12 AM #65:	josifrees posted... iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about. I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense. There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as. Nope you have a tin foil hat on sorry Nope sorry its well documented and was later acknowledged by Goodell himself. And to be clear idgaf that they "cheated." I'm fine with a team finding an advantage such as recording other teams practices and defensive coordinators so they know which signals are assigned to which plays. It's always smart to find any advantage. To pretend this didn't happen shows how uneducated one must be on the topic. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:895432766] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see.</quote> This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about.</quote> I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense.</quote> There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as.</quote> Nope you have a tin foil hat on sorry </quote> Nope sorry its well documented and was later acknowledged by Goodell himself. And to be clear idgaf that they "cheated." I'm fine with a team finding an advantage such as recording other teams practices and defensive coordinators so they know which signals are assigned to which plays. It's always smart to find any advantage. To pretend this didn't happen shows how uneducated one must be on the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 02/04/18 11:31:24 AM #66:	Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:895432937] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote>Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:32:00 AM #67:	iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about. I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense. There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as. There is one employee who said he was there to set up equipment of the Rams walkthrough but there was no.videotape. the Herald who initially reported that story issued an apology because it was quite obviously not a reliable source whatsoever. Plus that story came out after the Patriots had already been punished for their spygate recordings. There has never even been accusations of recording practices other than that walkthrough, unless we count conspiracy theorist like you. And like has been proven already, recording defensive signals is not illegal. And why would they be? Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895432965] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see.</quote> This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about.</quote> I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense.</quote> There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as.</quote> There is one employee who said he was there to set up equipment of the Rams walkthrough but there was no.videotape. the Herald who initially reported that story issued an apology because it was quite obviously not a reliable source whatsoever. Plus that story came out after the Patriots had already been punished for their spygate recordings. There has never even been accusations of recording practices other than that walkthrough, unless we count conspiracy theorist like you. And like has been proven already, recording defensive signals is not illegal. And why would they be? Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 02/04/18 11:33:17 AM #68:	Zodd3224 posted... Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught. No, it wasn't. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:895433032] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught.</quote> No, it wasn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:34:08 AM #69:	iClockwork posted... josifrees posted... iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see. This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about. I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense. There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as. Nope you have a tin foil hat on sorry Nope sorry its well documented and was later acknowledged by Goodell himself. And to be clear idgaf that they "cheated." I'm fine with a team finding an advantage such as recording other teams practices and defensive coordinators so they know which signals are assigned to which plays. It's always smart to find any advantage. To pretend this didn't happen shows how uneducated one must be on the topic. Prove it. Zodd3224 posted... Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught. It was still legal then. What was illwgal was where they were recording from. Again, every single person in the stadium can see the defensive signals, so why would it matter if you record them? --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895433074] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>He was recording the sideline and then the Down and distance on the big screen. So he was recording something that every single player or coach as well as every single fan in the building could see.</quote> This isn't even close to what spygate was wtf are you talking about.</quote> I'm talking about actual facts since you early have no clue what those actually are. I don't want to hear about your conspiracy theory nonsense.</quote> There is no conspiracy multiple former employees of the Patriots have admitted to taping practices and defensive signals from other teams. It's readily available testimony but your admitted bias refuses to knowledge these facts. I am indifferent to whether the Patriots win or lose but Spygate was absolutely more than what you attempted to sugar coat it as.</quote> Nope you have a tin foil hat on sorry </quote> Nope sorry its well documented and was later acknowledged by Goodell himself. And to be clear idgaf that they "cheated." I'm fine with a team finding an advantage such as recording other teams practices and defensive coordinators so they know which signals are assigned to which plays. It's always smart to find any advantage. To pretend this didn't happen shows how uneducated one must be on the topic.</quote> Prove it. <cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught.</quote> It was still legal then. What was illwgal was where they were recording from. Again, every single person in the stadium can see the defensive signals, so why would it matter if you record them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 02/04/18 11:35:15 AM #70:	darkjedilink posted... Zodd3224 posted... Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:895433130] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught.</quote> No, it wasn't.</quote> Yes, it was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/04/18 11:35:56 AM #71:	nicklebro posted... There is one employee who said he was there to set up equipment of the Rams walkthrough but there was no.videotape. the Herald who initially reported that story issued an apology because it was quite obviously not a reliable source whatsoever. Plus that story came out after the Patriots had already been punished for their spygate recordings. There has never even been accusations of recording practices other than that walkthrough, unless we count conspiracy theorist like you. And like has been proven already, recording defensive signals is not illegal. And why would they be? Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way. 1. That wasn't the only tape 2. That wasn't the only emplpoyee 3.The Boston Herald wasn't the initial reporter of the story. You have no idea what even happened, holy shit embarrassing. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:895433162] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>There is one employee who said he was there to set up equipment of the Rams walkthrough but there was no.videotape. the Herald who initially reported that story issued an apology because it was quite obviously not a reliable source whatsoever. Plus that story came out after the Patriots had already been punished for their spygate recordings. There has never even been accusations of recording practices other than that walkthrough, unless we count conspiracy theorist like you. And like has been proven already, recording defensive signals is not illegal. And why would they be? Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way. </quote> 1. That wasn't the only tape 2. That wasn't the only emplpoyee 3.The Boston Herald wasn't the initial reporter of the story. You have no idea what even happened, holy shit embarrassing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:36:25 AM #72:	Zodd3224 posted... darkjedilink posted... Zodd3224 posted... Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was Lol that guy honestly believes deflategate was a legitimate scandal, there's no reasoning with people like him. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895433192] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught.</quote> No, it wasn't.</quote> Yes, it was</quote> Lol that guy honestly believes deflategate was a legitimate scandal, there's no reasoning with people like him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 02/04/18 11:37:01 AM #73:	Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? The benefit would be in trying to decode the system?? Like really?? Just because millions of people can see them it doesnt detract from the information he could gain from being able to record and have their signals decoded. Even if they get changed at halftime and there is a lot of information to be gleaned. --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:895433224] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><quote> Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them?</quote> The benefit would be in trying to decode the system?? Like really?? Just because millions of people can see them it doesnt detract from the information he could gain from being able to record and have their signals decoded. Even if they get changed at halftime and there is a lot of information to be gleaned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:37:07 AM #74:	iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... There is one employee who said he was there to set up equipment of the Rams walkthrough but there was no.videotape. the Herald who initially reported that story issued an apology because it was quite obviously not a reliable source whatsoever. Plus that story came out after the Patriots had already been punished for their spygate recordings. There has never even been accusations of recording practices other than that walkthrough, unless we count conspiracy theorist like you. And like has been proven already, recording defensive signals is not illegal. And why would they be? Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way. 1. That wasn't the only tape 2. That wasn't the only emplpoyee 3.The Boston Herald wasn't the initial reporter of the story. You have no idea what even happened, holy shit embarrassing. Prove it. Prove anything you've been saying. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895433230] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>There is one employee who said he was there to set up equipment of the Rams walkthrough but there was no.videotape. the Herald who initially reported that story issued an apology because it was quite obviously not a reliable source whatsoever. Plus that story came out after the Patriots had already been punished for their spygate recordings. There has never even been accusations of recording practices other than that walkthrough, unless we count conspiracy theorist like you. And like has been proven already, recording defensive signals is not illegal. And why would they be? Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way. </quote> 1. That wasn't the only tape 2. That wasn't the only emplpoyee 3.The Boston Herald wasn't the initial reporter of the story. You have no idea what even happened, holy shit embarrassing.</quote> Prove it. Prove anything you've been saying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:38:34 AM #75:	josifrees posted... Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? The benefit would be in trying to decode the system?? Like really?? Just because millions of people can see them it doesnt detract from the information he could gain from being able to record and have their signals decoded. Even if they get changed at halftime and there is a lot of information to be gleaned. So he could get that benefit from just looking at them. Are you saying there should be a rule against looking at the opposing sideline too? Lol Jesus dude... --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895433284] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote><quote> Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them?</quote> The benefit would be in trying to decode the system?? Like really?? Just because millions of people can see them it doesnt detract from the information he could gain from being able to record and have their signals decoded. Even if they get changed at halftime and there is a lot of information to be gleaned.</quote> So he could get that benefit from just looking at them. Are you saying there should be a rule against looking at the opposing sideline too? Lol Jesus dude...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 02/04/18 11:41:29 AM #76:	Zodd3224 posted... darkjedilink posted... Zodd3224 posted... Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was Show me the rulebook that says you can have spy cameras set up on the opposing sideline and in walkthroughs for the sole purpose of deciphering playbooks. The mere act of stealing playbooks and signing free agents for a couple of weeks because they were on the opposing team earlier in the season is illegal, for the exact reason. Always has been. Yeah, teams still DO it, but let's not pretend that it was ever expressly allowed. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:895433416] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught.</quote> No, it wasn't.</quote> Yes, it was</quote> Show me the rulebook that says you can have spy cameras set up on the opposing sideline and in walkthroughs for the sole purpose of deciphering playbooks. The mere act of stealing playbooks and signing free agents for a couple of weeks because they were on the opposing team earlier in the season is illegal, for the exact reason. Always has been. Yeah, teams still DO it, but let's not pretend that it was ever expressly allowed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/04/18 11:43:25 AM #77:	nicklebro posted... Prove it. Prove anything you've been saying. It's pretty embarrassing that you don't know the name Matt Estrella. oof --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:895433497] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Prove it. Prove anything you've been saying. </quote> It's pretty embarrassing that you don't know the name Matt Estrella. oof</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:46:32 AM #78:	This is now the third time I've challenged you to prove anything you've said. Literally anything. Something tells me the best I'll get is some more "can't believe you didn't know this" nonsense about some completely irrelevant bullshit that does nothing to help your argument. So how's the time to actually say something with actual substance. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895433657] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote>This is now the third time I've challenged you to prove anything you've said. Literally anything. Something tells me the best I'll get is some more "can't believe you didn't know this" nonsense about some completely irrelevant bullshit that does nothing to help your argument. So how's the time to actually say something with actual substance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 02/04/18 11:46:59 AM #79:	nicklebro posted... josifrees posted... Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? The benefit would be in trying to decode the system?? Like really?? Just because millions of people can see them it doesnt detract from the information he could gain from being able to record and have their signals decoded. Even if they get changed at halftime and there is a lot of information to be gleaned. So he could get that benefit from just looking at them. Are you saying there should be a rule against looking at the opposing sideline too? Lol Jesus dude... Do you know football at all? You sound ignorant to the sport. Not only are there multiple coaches making signals for multiple groups of the defense but they arent going to make their signals so simple as to be easily deciphered and you need to have a large enough sample size to figure out how they change up the signals. You arent just gonna look at 4 dudes at once and read their defensive signals unless you are the rainman or some shit. And even if he could decipher it you think he doesnt have other shit to do on top of it? I dont know or care about the specifics of spygate but Jesus you sound like you know jackshit about football --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:895433677] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote><quote> Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them?</quote> The benefit would be in trying to decode the system?? Like really?? Just because millions of people can see them it doesnt detract from the information he could gain from being able to record and have their signals decoded. Even if they get changed at halftime and there is a lot of information to be gleaned.</quote> So he could get that benefit from just looking at them. Are you saying there should be a rule against looking at the opposing sideline too? Lol Jesus dude...</quote> Do you know football at all? You sound ignorant to the sport. Not only are there multiple coaches making signals for multiple groups of the defense but they arent going to make their signals so simple as to be easily deciphered and you need to have a large enough sample size to figure out how they change up the signals. You arent just gonna look at 4 dudes at once and read their defensive signals unless you are the rainman or some shit. And even if he could decipher it you think he doesnt have other shit to do on top of it? I dont know or care about the specifics of spygate but Jesus you sound like you know jackshit about football</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krojen 02/04/18 11:47:03 AM #80:	You just have to respect greatness at this point. They're the only team that Vegas hasn't been able to catch up with over the years. Tom Brady is also vegan. #tb12philosophy --- http://i.imgur.com/hI4hAMb.jpg <cite>Krojen posted [p:895433680] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote>You just have to respect greatness at this point. They're the only team that Vegas hasn't been able to catch up with over the years. Tom Brady is also vegan. #tb12philosophy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 02/04/18 11:47:54 AM #81:	darkjedilink posted... Zodd3224 posted... darkjedilink posted... Zodd3224 posted... Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught. No, it wasn't. Yes, it was Show me the rulebook that says you can have spy cameras set up on the opposing sideline and in walkthroughs for the sole purpose of deciphering playbooks. The mere act of stealing playbooks and signing free agents for a couple of weeks because they were on the opposing team earlier in the season is illegal, for the exact reason. Always has been. Yeah, teams still DO it, but let's not pretend that it was ever expressly allowed. LoL. Crybaby. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:895433721] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Taping signals was legal until the season they got caught.</quote> No, it wasn't.</quote> Yes, it was</quote> Show me the rulebook that says you can have spy cameras set up on the opposing sideline and in walkthroughs for the sole purpose of deciphering playbooks. The mere act of stealing playbooks and signing free agents for a couple of weeks because they were on the opposing team earlier in the season is illegal, for the exact reason. Always has been. Yeah, teams still DO it, but let's not pretend that it was ever expressly allowed.</quote> LoL. Crybaby.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/04/18 11:51:02 AM #82:	nicklebro posted... This is now the third time I've challenged you to prove anything you've said. Literally anything. Something tells me the best I'll get is some more "can't believe you didn't know this" nonsense about some completely irrelevant bullshit that does nothing to help your argument. So how's the time to actually say something with actual substance. Because names such as Matt Estrella are base level players in the scandal that you should be familiar with yet you aren't which proves you have no idea what spygate was. Try to paint it as "irrelevant" all you want but it only strengthens the argument against you. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:895433865] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>This is now the third time I've challenged you to prove anything you've said. Literally anything. Something tells me the best I'll get is some more "can't believe you didn't know this" nonsense about some completely irrelevant bullshit that does nothing to help your argument. So how's the time to actually say something with actual substance.</quote> Because names such as Matt Estrella are base level players in the scandal that you should be familiar with yet you aren't which proves you have no idea what spygate was. Try to paint it as "irrelevant" all you want but it only strengthens the argument against you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:52:50 AM #83:	josifrees posted... nicklebro posted... josifrees posted... Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them? The benefit would be in trying to decode the system?? Like really?? Just because millions of people can see them it doesnt detract from the information he could gain from being able to record and have their signals decoded. Even if they get changed at halftime and there is a lot of information to be gleaned. So he could get that benefit from just looking at them. Are you saying there should be a rule against looking at the opposing sideline too? Lol Jesus dude... Do you know football at all? You sound ignorant to the sport. Not only are there multiple coaches making signals for multiple groups of the defense but they arent going to make their signals so simple as to be easily deciphered and you need to have a large enough sample size to figure out how they change up the signals. You arent just gonna look at 4 dudes at once and read their defensive signals unless you are the rainman or some shit. And even if he could decipher it you think he doesnt have other shit to do on top of it? I dont know or care about the specifics of spygate but Jesus you sound like you know jackshit about football You're the one who thought recording signals was illegal, so you're the only one who's shown to not know what they're talking about. Lol I mean this has nothing to do with "knowing about football" anyways but the fact remains that the rule the Patriots broke was concerning the location of their cameraman, not what they were recording. You've show that you didn't even know this basic fact which makes me wonder why you think you can contribute to this topic at all. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895433957] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote><quote> Tens of thousands of people can see them, what benefit is there to recording them?</quote> The benefit would be in trying to decode the system?? Like really?? Just because millions of people can see them it doesnt detract from the information he could gain from being able to record and have their signals decoded. Even if they get changed at halftime and there is a lot of information to be gleaned.</quote> So he could get that benefit from just looking at them. Are you saying there should be a rule against looking at the opposing sideline too? Lol Jesus dude...</quote> Do you know football at all? You sound ignorant to the sport. Not only are there multiple coaches making signals for multiple groups of the defense but they arent going to make their signals so simple as to be easily deciphered and you need to have a large enough sample size to figure out how they change up the signals. You arent just gonna look at 4 dudes at once and read their defensive signals unless you are the rainman or some shit. And even if he could decipher it you think he doesnt have other shit to do on top of it? I dont know or care about the specifics of spygate but Jesus you sound like you know jackshit about football</quote> You're the one who thought recording signals was illegal, so you're the only one who's shown to not know what they're talking about. Lol I mean this has nothing to do with "knowing about football" anyways but the fact remains that the rule the Patriots broke was concerning the location of their cameraman, not what they were recording. You've show that you didn't even know this basic fact which makes me wonder why you think you can contribute to this topic at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 02/04/18 11:58:13 AM #84:	Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:895434252] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote>Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 11:59:06 AM #85:	iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... This is now the third time I've challenged you to prove anything you've said. Literally anything. Something tells me the best I'll get is some more "can't believe you didn't know this" nonsense about some completely irrelevant bullshit that does nothing to help your argument. So how's the time to actually say something with actual substance. Because names such as Matt Estrella are base level players in the scandal that you should be familiar with yet you aren't which proves you have no idea what spygate was. Try to paint it as "irrelevant" all you want but it only strengthens the argument against you. The name of the cameraman is literally irrelevant, lol but thank you for proving me right. You can't prove a single thing you said. Literally nothing. The only rational conclusion to be made is that you're completely full of shit, which is what happens when someone talks out of their ass. Hell we can go back to the first thing you said, that spygate had nothing to do with where the cameraman was placed on the field. Lol but now you're saying that the name of that cameraman is somehow an important detail of the spygate scandal. So tell me, if what Mr Estrella was recording bad nothing to do with spygate, why is it important to know his name? You just got got. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895434305] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>This is now the third time I've challenged you to prove anything you've said. Literally anything. Something tells me the best I'll get is some more "can't believe you didn't know this" nonsense about some completely irrelevant bullshit that does nothing to help your argument. So how's the time to actually say something with actual substance.</quote> Because names such as Matt Estrella are base level players in the scandal that you should be familiar with yet you aren't which proves you have no idea what spygate was. Try to paint it as "irrelevant" all you want but it only strengthens the argument against you.</quote> The name of the cameraman is literally irrelevant, lol but thank you for proving me right. You can't prove a single thing you said. Literally nothing. The only rational conclusion to be made is that you're completely full of shit, which is what happens when someone talks out of their ass. Hell we can go back to the first thing you said, that spygate had nothing to do with where the cameraman was placed on the field. Lol but now you're saying that the name of that cameraman is somehow an important detail of the spygate scandal. So tell me, if what Mr Estrella was recording bad nothing to do with spygate, why is it important to know his name? You just got got.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 02/04/18 12:01:18 PM #86:	josifrees posted... Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless Belichick, as with most greats, will push the envelope to be great. Sometimes he crosses the line, sometimes he gets caught. I didnt see a huge uproar when the Falcons were busted pumping artificial noise into their stadium. Or when the Broncos got busted fudging the salary cap... or how about the Saints putting up injury bounties. People only blow it out of proportion with the Pats because they are sick of seeing them win. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:895434406] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless</quote> Belichick, as with most greats, will push the envelope to be great. Sometimes he crosses the line, sometimes he gets caught. I didnt see a huge uproar when the Falcons were busted pumping artificial noise into their stadium. Or when the Broncos got busted fudging the salary cap... or how about the Saints putting up injury bounties. People only blow it out of proportion with the Pats because they are sick of seeing them win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 02/04/18 12:04:00 PM #87:	Zodd3224 posted... josifrees posted... Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless Belichick, as with most greats, will push the envelope to be great. Sometimes he crosses the line, sometimes he gets caught. I didnt see a huge uproar when the Falcons were busted pumping artificial noise into their stadium. Or when the Broncos got busted fudging the salary cap... or how about the Saints putting up injury bounties. People only blow it out of proportion with the Pats because they are sick of seeing them win. Ummmmm what? People were fucking livid when they found out about the Saints Bounty program....dont remember Sean Payton getting suspended for a year??? --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:895434536] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless</quote> Belichick, as with most greats, will push the envelope to be great. Sometimes he crosses the line, sometimes he gets caught. I didnt see a huge uproar when the Falcons were busted pumping artificial noise into their stadium. Or when the Broncos got busted fudging the salary cap... or how about the Saints putting up injury bounties. People only blow it out of proportion with the Pats because they are sick of seeing them win.</quote> Ummmmm what? People were fucking livid when they found out about the Saints Bounty program....dont remember Sean Payton getting suspended for a year???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/04/18 12:04:55 PM #88:	nicklebro posted... The name of the cameraman is literally irrelevant, lol but thank you for proving me right. You can't prove a single thing you said. Literally nothing. The only rational conclusion to be made is that you're completely full of shit, which is what happens when someone talks out of their ass. Hell we can go back to the first thing you said, that spygate had nothing to do with where the cameraman was placed on the field. Lol but now you're saying that the name of that cameraman is somehow an important detail of the spygate scandal. You said only one camera man was involved in spy gate. I just gave a 2nd and there are more after him. Again you saying he's irrelevant doesn't make it true and is quite embarrassing. I'm giving the name of the camera man because you acted as if he didn't exist and is more proof that you have no knowledge of spygate by trying to play it down as one cameraman recorded the Rams walk through when that isn't even the main argument against the Patriots Sorry buddy you're playing damage control like you do in the other topics you've been blown out on. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:895434575] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>The name of the cameraman is literally irrelevant, lol but thank you for proving me right. You can't prove a single thing you said. Literally nothing. The only rational conclusion to be made is that you're completely full of shit, which is what happens when someone talks out of their ass. Hell we can go back to the first thing you said, that spygate had nothing to do with where the cameraman was placed on the field. Lol but now you're saying that the name of that cameraman is somehow an important detail of the spygate scandal. </quote> You said only one camera man was involved in spy gate. I just gave a 2nd and there are more after him. Again you saying he's irrelevant doesn't make it true and is quite embarrassing. I'm giving the name of the camera man because you acted as if he didn't exist and is more proof that you have no knowledge of spygate by trying to play it down as one cameraman recorded the Rams walk through when that isn't even the main argument against the Patriots Sorry buddy you're playing damage control like you do in the other topics you've been blown out on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 12:05:00 PM #89:	josifrees posted... Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless It wasn't against the rules because it doesn't give you an advantage. And even going by what you've said, the only benefit is one of convenience. So yeah it makes it simpler to decide defensive signals, but literally every single shred of information that you can get from recording them can be acquired without recording them. That's the point. Plus this whole "you don't know anything about football!" Tirade was childish and makes it really hard to take you seriously. Idk why people like you immediately resort to those kind of immature antics but I can promise you that they never have nor will they ever help your argument in any way shape or form. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895434579] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless</quote> It wasn't against the rules because it doesn't give you an advantage. And even going by what you've said, the only benefit is one of convenience. So yeah it makes it simpler to decide defensive signals, but literally every single shred of information that you can get from recording them can be acquired without recording them. That's the point. Plus this whole "you don't know anything about football!" Tirade was childish and makes it really hard to take you seriously. Idk why people like you immediately resort to those kind of immature antics but I can promise you that they never have nor will they ever help your argument in any way shape or form.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 12:06:01 PM #90:	iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... The name of the cameraman is literally irrelevant, lol but thank you for proving me right. You can't prove a single thing you said. Literally nothing. The only rational conclusion to be made is that you're completely full of shit, which is what happens when someone talks out of their ass. Hell we can go back to the first thing you said, that spygate had nothing to do with where the cameraman was placed on the field. Lol but now you're saying that the name of that cameraman is somehow an important detail of the spygate scandal. You said only one camera man was involved in spy gate. I just gave a 2nd and there are more after him. Again you saying he's irrelevant doesn't make it true and is quite embarrassing. I'm giving the name of the camera man because you acted as if he didn't exist and is more proof that you have no knowledge of spygate by trying to play it down as one cameraman recorded the Rams walk through when that isn't even the main argument against the Patriots Sorry buddy you're playing damage control like you do in the other topics you've been blown out on. Oh ok man sorry you're right, my bad. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895434635] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>The name of the cameraman is literally irrelevant, lol but thank you for proving me right. You can't prove a single thing you said. Literally nothing. The only rational conclusion to be made is that you're completely full of shit, which is what happens when someone talks out of their ass. Hell we can go back to the first thing you said, that spygate had nothing to do with where the cameraman was placed on the field. Lol but now you're saying that the name of that cameraman is somehow an important detail of the spygate scandal. </quote> You said only one camera man was involved in spy gate. I just gave a 2nd and there are more after him. Again you saying he's irrelevant doesn't make it true and is quite embarrassing. I'm giving the name of the camera man because you acted as if he didn't exist and is more proof that you have no knowledge of spygate by trying to play it down as one cameraman recorded the Rams walk through when that isn't even the main argument against the Patriots Sorry buddy you're playing damage control like you do in the other topics you've been blown out on.</quote> Oh ok man sorry you're right, my bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 02/04/18 12:07:24 PM #91:	nicklebro posted... Plus this whole "you don't know anything about football!" Tirade was childish and makes it really hard to take you seriously. Idk why people like you immediately resort to those kind of immature antics nicklebro posted... I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way. Pot meet kettle, oof nicklebro posted... Oh ok man sorry you're right, my bad. Apology accepted. --- Sometimes people come along and they want to change things. I am one of those people and I will assist in furthering our country for the better. - Xsquader <cite>iClockwork posted [p:895434692] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Plus this whole "you don't know anything about football!" Tirade was childish and makes it really hard to take you seriously. Idk why people like you immediately resort to those kind of immature antics</quote> <cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way. </quote> Pot meet kettle, oof <cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Oh ok man sorry you're right, my bad. </quote> Apology accepted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 12:08:27 PM #92:	iClockwork posted... nicklebro posted... Plus this whole "you don't know anything about football!" Tirade was childish and makes it really hard to take you seriously. Idk why people like you immediately resort to those kind of immature antics nicklebro posted... I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way. Pot meet kettle, oof Yup got me man you're right I'm wrong, so sorry dude . You win. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895434743] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>Plus this whole "you don't know anything about football!" Tirade was childish and makes it really hard to take you seriously. Idk why people like you immediately resort to those kind of immature antics</quote> <cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>I've had this debate with people far smarter and more knowledgeable than you, and it's always ended the same way. </quote> Pot meet kettle, oof</quote> Yup got me man you're right I'm wrong, so sorry dude . You win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VectorChaos 02/04/18 12:12:49 PM #93:	BudDupree48 posted... integrity of the game ohwaityoureserious.gif --- PSN VectorChaos http://i.imgur.com/ftMERkZ.jpg XBL Vector Chaos http://i.imgur.com/10hWZ95.png http://i.imgur.com/MZMOLx0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R2jRl8F.jpg <cite>VectorChaos posted [p:895434960] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>BudDupree48 posted...</cite> <quote>integrity of the game</quote> ohwaityoureserious.gif</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 02/04/18 12:13:29 PM #94:	josifrees posted... Zodd3224 posted... josifrees posted... Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless Belichick, as with most greats, will push the envelope to be great. Sometimes he crosses the line, sometimes he gets caught. I didnt see a huge uproar when the Falcons were busted pumping artificial noise into their stadium. Or when the Broncos got busted fudging the salary cap... or how about the Saints putting up injury bounties. People only blow it out of proportion with the Pats because they are sick of seeing them win. Ummmmm what? People were fucking livid when they found out about the Saints Bounty program....dont remember Sean Payton getting suspended for a year??? Yes, but no one calls them cheaters and that their Super Bowl deserves an astericks for cheating. And how about the other two situations? I dont hear anyone calling the Falcons or Broncos cheaters, do you? --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:895434996] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless</quote> Belichick, as with most greats, will push the envelope to be great. Sometimes he crosses the line, sometimes he gets caught. I didnt see a huge uproar when the Falcons were busted pumping artificial noise into their stadium. Or when the Broncos got busted fudging the salary cap... or how about the Saints putting up injury bounties. People only blow it out of proportion with the Pats because they are sick of seeing them win.</quote> Ummmmm what? People were fucking livid when they found out about the Saints Bounty program....dont remember Sean Payton getting suspended for a year???</quote> Yes, but no one calls them cheaters and that their Super Bowl deserves an astericks for cheating. And how about the other two situations? I dont hear anyone calling the Falcons or Broncos cheaters, do you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 02/04/18 12:15:03 PM #95:	Error1355 posted... They also feel the refs bias towards the Penguins. Just like how everyone hates the Patriots and hates Tom Brady and think the refs are biased towards them too. =P Lol no. It's not the same. The NHL's Penguins slurping is fucking blatant and nobody but their delusional fanbase denies this --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:895435081] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Error1355 posted...</cite> <quote>They also feel the refs bias towards the Penguins. Just like how everyone hates the Patriots and hates Tom Brady and think the refs are biased towards them too. =P</quote> Lol no. It's not the same. The NHL's Penguins slurping is fucking blatant and nobody but their delusional fanbase denies this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 02/04/18 12:16:09 PM #96:	No...it doesnt give you an advantage because every team is doing it and every team is trying to collect information on their opponents. Recording is not against the rules you just have to do it in specific places. If recording didnt have a benefit, teams wouldnt be doing it and the NFL wouldnt have rules in place to police it. Yes you can acquire information without recording it but gasp you record things so you can have a gasp record of information for future reference. Thats the point of recording. You not only dont know jackshit about football it seems you are also lacking in logic and understanding. Idk why people like you resort to thinking people calling out your ignorance are going on tirades but I can promise you it will never have nor will it ever help your argument in any way shape or form. --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:895435130] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote>No...it doesnt give you an advantage because every team is doing it and every team is trying to collect information on their opponents. Recording is not against the rules you just have to do it in specific places. If recording didnt have a benefit, teams wouldnt be doing it and the NFL wouldnt have rules in place to police it. Yes you can acquire information without recording it but gasp you record things so you can have a gasp record of information for future reference. Thats the point of recording. You not only dont know jackshit about football it seems you are also lacking in logic and understanding. Idk why people like you resort to thinking people calling out your ignorance are going on tirades but I can promise you it will never have nor will it ever help your argument in any way shape or form.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 02/04/18 12:16:28 PM #97:	YourDrunkFather posted... Error1355 posted... They also feel the refs bias towards the Penguins. Just like how everyone hates the Patriots and hates Tom Brady and think the refs are biased towards them too. =P Lol no. It's not the same. The NHL's Penguins slurping is fucking blatant and nobody but their delusional fanbase denies this What? LoL. I dont like the Penguins but Ive never once cried that the refs favor them. Good lord you people are such sore losers, its so pathetic... --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:895435146] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>YourDrunkFather posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Error1355 posted...</cite> <quote>They also feel the refs bias towards the Penguins. Just like how everyone hates the Patriots and hates Tom Brady and think the refs are biased towards them too. =P</quote> Lol no. It's not the same. The NHL's Penguins slurping is fucking blatant and nobody but their delusional fanbase denies this</quote> What? LoL. I dont like the Penguins but Ive never once cried that the refs favor them. Good lord you people are such sore losers, its so pathetic...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 02/04/18 12:17:19 PM #98:	Zodd3224 posted... Yes, but no one calls them cheaters and that their Super Bowl deserves an astericks for cheating. Bullshit. Every Vikings fan in existence, me included. They DID cheat. They ARE cheaters. They don't deserve their Super Bowl. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:895435192] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, but no one calls them cheaters and that their Super Bowl deserves an astericks for cheating.</quote> Bullshit. Every Vikings fan in existence, me included. They DID cheat. They ARE cheaters. They don't deserve their Super Bowl.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 02/04/18 12:17:54 PM #99:	Zodd3224 posted... josifrees posted... Zodd3224 posted... josifrees posted... Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless Belichick, as with most greats, will push the envelope to be great. Sometimes he crosses the line, sometimes he gets caught. I didnt see a huge uproar when the Falcons were busted pumping artificial noise into their stadium. Or when the Broncos got busted fudging the salary cap... or how about the Saints putting up injury bounties. People only blow it out of proportion with the Pats because they are sick of seeing them win. Ummmmm what? People were fucking livid when they found out about the Saints Bounty program....dont remember Sean Payton getting suspended for a year??? Yes, but no one calls them cheaters and that their Super Bowl deserves an astericks for cheating. And how about the other two situations? I dont hear anyone calling the Falcons or Broncos cheaters, do you? You're right, it's 100% due to the irrational hatred towards the pats. Lol I mean they even claim that the pats get ref help and that the league ensures they win csrtain games when it's already been proven that the league has punished the Patriots extremely harshly for completely manufactured scandals. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:895435221] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>Im not the one who thought it was illegal you got the wrong guy. I just disagreed with your stance that the information was useless</quote> Belichick, as with most greats, will push the envelope to be great. Sometimes he crosses the line, sometimes he gets caught. I didnt see a huge uproar when the Falcons were busted pumping artificial noise into their stadium. Or when the Broncos got busted fudging the salary cap... or how about the Saints putting up injury bounties. People only blow it out of proportion with the Pats because they are sick of seeing them win.</quote> Ummmmm what? People were fucking livid when they found out about the Saints Bounty program....dont remember Sean Payton getting suspended for a year???</quote> Yes, but no one calls them cheaters and that their Super Bowl deserves an astericks for cheating. And how about the other two situations? I dont hear anyone calling the Falcons or Broncos cheaters, do you?</quote> You're right, it's 100% due to the irrational hatred towards the pats. Lol I mean they even claim that the pats get ref help and that the league ensures they win csrtain games when it's already been proven that the league has punished the Patriots extremely harshly for completely manufactured scandals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 02/04/18 12:20:02 PM #100:	darkjedilink posted... Zodd3224 posted... Yes, but no one calls them cheaters and that their Super Bowl deserves an astericks for cheating. Bullshit. Every Vikings fan in existence, me included. They DID cheat. They ARE cheaters. They don't deserve their Super Bowl. You are the first person I have seen say this. I say congrats to them on their Super Bowl win. Also, cant wait for some Minnesota cheating scandal to pop up eventually so we can discredit any future championship they may (possibly) win someday. --- Currently playing = Shadows Die Twice beta Fave game of all time = Shadows Die Twice <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:895435324] in With the P... [t:76281006]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, but no one calls them cheaters and that their Super Bowl deserves an astericks for cheating.</quote> Bullshit. Every Vikings fan in existence, me included. They DID cheat. They ARE cheaters. They don't deserve their Super Bowl.</quote> You are the first person I have seen say this. I say congrats to them on their Super Bowl win. Also, cant wait for some Minnesota cheating scandal to pop up eventually so we can discredit any future championship they may (possibly) win someday.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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