Current Events > I need to get an all wheel drive vehicle, DAMNIT

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Inch of snow on the roads and my shitty pickup couldn't make it up the incline. I mean, it didn't help that this lady in front of me was going way too slow and hadn't built up enough speed to make it up and ultimately had to pull over, which led to me having to do the same...

Currently looking at 4 wheel and all wheel drive vehicles, and I like the Subaru Impreza.

Anyway, /blogfaqs
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@Vegy, should TC get a Ford Raptor?
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Manocheese posted...

@Vegy, should TC get a Ford Raptor?

I'm actually looking at the Raptor, too. I do love me some Ford Trucks, even though my shitty truck left me stranded!
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Just get winter tires.
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Switching to an all wheel drive has been amazing. You really notice and feel the difference.
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Another reason I love the south. Even when it's less than an inch of snow I'm expected to stay cozy in the home and still get paid
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I love AWD vehicles, especially the advanced ones like Audi quattro (with sports diff) and Acura SH-AWD that offer torque vectoring. They're primarily designed for performance, but will serve you well in inclement weather too.

However for most folks, throwing on some winter tires and not driving like a maniac go a long way. My prior car was FWD and even with all season tires, I was able to handle winter weather with basic sensible driving.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

I love AWD vehicles, especially the advanced ones like Audi quattro (with sports diff) and Acura SH-AWD that offer torque vectoring. They're primarily designed for performance, but will serve you well in inclement weather too.

However for most folks, throwing on some winter tires and not driving like a maniac go a long way. My prior car was FWD and even with all season tires, I was able to handle winter weather with basic sensible driving.

whenever i see you post you always act so fucking smug. learn how to be humble jfc
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ImCallingYouOut posted...

Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

I love AWD vehicles, especially the advanced ones like Audi quattro (with sports diff) and Acura SH-AWD that offer torque vectoring. They're primarily designed for performance, but will serve you well in inclement weather too.

However for most folks, throwing on some winter tires and not driving like a maniac go a long way. My prior car was FWD and even with all season tires, I was able to handle winter weather with basic sensible driving.

whenever i see you post you always act so fucking smug. learn how to be humble jfc

What's smug about that?

I'm just saying that a lot of the time, AWD isn't really necessary for winter weather unless you live in extreme environments. Proper tires and sensible driving is really all you need.
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

I love AWD vehicles, especially the advanced ones like Audi quattro (with sports diff) and Acura SH-AWD that offer torque vectoring. They're primarily designed for performance, but will serve you well in inclement weather too.

However for most folks, throwing on some winter tires and not driving like a maniac go a long way. My prior car was FWD and even with all season tires, I was able to handle winter weather with basic sensible driving.

That's because front wheel drive is vastly different from rear wheel drive, and a car has vastly different dynamics than a 2wd truck. Learn something before you post.

TC, chuck some weight in the back, get an LSD or locker, and get some studded winter tires. I drive an Isuzu SUV with 4wd and a locking rear axle. It never sees 4wd unless I'm axle deep in something, because 2wd is more than enough.
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I love my Jeep.
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I have two 4x4s... and they do not go in 4wd on the roads unless there is a foot of snow (like yesterday). 2wd is all you need for 99% of the time.
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AWD doesnt make you invincible in snow conditions. Cant tell you how many idiots i've seen speeding down the road because they think their Truck isn't going to slide straight into the ditch and later passing them as they discover their folly. Instead of 2 tires going out of control all you end with all 4 going out of control.

Snow tires and safe driving will do you better than AWD. Grip is going to keep you safe.

Remember that AWD is a performance feature. Not a safety feature.
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Dampproof posted...

Snow tires and safe driving will do you better than AWD.

Yes, but why not have all three? I'm a very safe driver, so AWD and snow tires would be a bonus. I would have made it up the hill if I could have built the right amount of speed, but person in front of me was going way too slow.
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Tupacrulez posted...

TC, chuck some weight in the back, get an LSD or locker, and get some studded winter tires.

I don't think driving is a good idea on lsd. Or is that for him while he's waiting to get his new tires
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That's because front wheel drive is vastly different from rear wheel drive, and a car has vastly different dynamics than a 2wd truck. Learn something before you post.

And I never argued the dynamics of FWD and RWD in my post. I simply suggested to TC to use proper tires and drive safely, which is relevant regardless of which wheels move your car. Go be useless elsewhere.
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NOM posted...

Dampproof posted...

Snow tires and safe driving will do you better than AWD.

Yes, but why not have all three? I'm a very safe driver, so AWD and snow tires would be a bonus. I would have made it up the hill if I could have built the right amount of speed, but person in front of me was going way too slow.

Well I am not stopping you from making your own choice. I am just saying that Grip is going to be better for you in the long run. With more grip you wont lose so much speed going up a hill because your vehicle is losing all that contact with the ground spinning. It is more or less trying to dispel the myth that all you need is a AWD to conquer winter driving. Even if you had had an AWD vehicle would just have 4 tires spinning as apposed to 2.

AWD carry much more weight than 2wd counter parts which means more fuel consumption in the long run. AWD is wasted on basic commuting unless you live on a farm or rural area that has mostly unkept or unpaved roads.

AWD or 2WD isn't really a difference maker. Tires are the difference maker. If you're in Winter conditions DONT RELY ON ALL SEASONS, they;re not designed for winter weather.
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Lol I see the AWD crossovers in ditches all the time. Use common sense and you will be safe in one inch snow or one foot snow no matter the drivetrain.

I love all of these "Driving safe with 2 wheels is better than driving like a shithead with 4 wheels"

NO FUCKING SHIT.
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Yea get dat ford raptor
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Dampproof posted...

NOM posted...

Dampproof posted...

Snow tires and safe driving will do you better than AWD.

Yes, but why not have all three? I'm a very safe driver, so AWD and snow tires would be a bonus. I would have made it up the hill if I could have built the right amount of speed, but person in front of me was going way too slow.

Well I am not stopping you from making your own choice. I am just saying that Grip is going to be better for you in the long run. With more grip you wont lose so much speed going up a hill because your vehicle is losing all that contact with the ground spinning. It is more or less trying to dispel the myth that all you need is a AWD to conquer winter driving. Even if you had had an AWD vehicle would just have 4 tires spinning as apposed to 2.

AWD carry much more weight than 2wd counter parts which means more fuel consumption in the long run. AWD is wasted on basic commuting unless you live on a farm or rural area that has mostly unkept or unpaved roads.

AWD or 2WD isn't really a difference maker. Tires are the difference maker. If you're in Winter conditions DONT RELY ON ALL SEASONS, they;re not designed for winter weather.

Id disagree on the tires. They do make a difference, but all seasons are fine in the winter, provided you understand you are on all seasons. Ive only ran one set of winter tires (this season) and the difference between them and the A/T tires Ive had on before is minimal.
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MaverickXeo posted...

Dampproof posted...

NOM posted...

Dampproof posted...

Snow tires and safe driving will do you better than AWD.

Yes, but why not have all three? I'm a very safe driver, so AWD and snow tires would be a bonus. I would have made it up the hill if I could have built the right amount of speed, but person in front of me was going way too slow.

Well I am not stopping you from making your own choice. I am just saying that Grip is going to be better for you in the long run. With more grip you wont lose so much speed going up a hill because your vehicle is losing all that contact with the ground spinning. It is more or less trying to dispel the myth that all you need is a AWD to conquer winter driving. Even if you had had an AWD vehicle would just have 4 tires spinning as apposed to 2.

AWD carry much more weight than 2wd counter parts which means more fuel consumption in the long run. AWD is wasted on basic commuting unless you live on a farm or rural area that has mostly unkept or unpaved roads.

AWD or 2WD isn't really a difference maker. Tires are the difference maker. If you're in Winter conditions DONT RELY ON ALL SEASONS, they;re not designed for winter weather.

Id disagree on the tires. They do make a difference, but all seasons are fine in the winter, provided you understand you are on all seasons. Ive only ran one set of winter tires (this season) and the difference between them and the A/T tires Ive had on before is minimal.

All seasons are only designed to work in Spring, Summer and Fall. When the temperature drops below a certain point all season tires become extremely hard and lose traction very easily. You want tires to stay soft and flexible so they can keep their grip

Never mind the fact that All seasons have a closed thread pattern vs Winter tires more open tread pattern.

If you live in an area where the weather doesnt drop below freezing then sure All seasons aren't going to fail. But past that point I guarantee you in bad conditions such as a flurries you'll notice the difference very quickly.
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Dampproof posted...

MaverickXeo posted...

Dampproof posted...

NOM posted...

Dampproof posted...

Snow tires and safe driving will do you better than AWD.

Yes, but why not have all three? I'm a very safe driver, so AWD and snow tires would be a bonus. I would have made it up the hill if I could have built the right amount of speed, but person in front of me was going way too slow.

Well I am not stopping you from making your own choice. I am just saying that Grip is going to be better for you in the long run. With more grip you wont lose so much speed going up a hill because your vehicle is losing all that contact with the ground spinning. It is more or less trying to dispel the myth that all you need is a AWD to conquer winter driving. Even if you had had an AWD vehicle would just have 4 tires spinning as apposed to 2.

AWD carry much more weight than 2wd counter parts which means more fuel consumption in the long run. AWD is wasted on basic commuting unless you live on a farm or rural area that has mostly unkept or unpaved roads.

AWD or 2WD isn't really a difference maker. Tires are the difference maker. If you're in Winter conditions DONT RELY ON ALL SEASONS, they;re not designed for winter weather.

Id disagree on the tires. They do make a difference, but all seasons are fine in the winter, provided you understand you are on all seasons. Ive only ran one set of winter tires (this season) and the difference between them and the A/T tires Ive had on before is minimal.

All seasons are only designed to work in Spring, Summer and Fall. When the temperature drops below a certain point all season tires become extremely hard and lose traction very easily. You want tires to stay soft and flexible so they can keep their grip

Never mind the fact that All seasons have a closed thread pattern vs Winter tires more open tread pattern.

If you live in an area where the weather doesnt drop below freezing then sure All seasons aren't going to fail. But past that point I guarantee you in bad conditions such as a flurries you'll notice the difference very quickly.

I live in an area that drops to -30C regularly, and gets lots of snow and ice.
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