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Hicks233 02/10/18 6:41:34 PM #104:	Sativa_Rose posted... PlsGodDontBanMe posted... DK9292 posted... And by the way, just want to say thanks for making me re-live all this. Bringing back up all the baggage and bullshit I've tried my best to fucking forget. Half of this shit I've written on the edge of fucking tears, and I can't make my heart stop beating from the anger. Lmao jesus fucking christ grow up Nah this stuff can be pretty serious, those are important formative years and society fails to properly protect/guide a lot of people. A lot of them need toughening up as well. I've worked in UK secondary and sixth form and volunteered in primary. There are absolute bastards in both. The school has rules and they are to be enforced across the full student body. Some kids can't hack it and there are interventions available as well as out of school provision to give them an opportunity to refocus on their studies. This does depend on county however. Over the past twenty-five years though the kids have gotten weaker, along with society as a whole. Some kids are weak and may benefit from a nurturing approach. Others need a sound kick up the arse. Because of how in tune with feelings we're supposed to be now and shite like restorative justice - that sorely needed kick up the arse may not be possible to give, for fear of upsetting the little darlings. Some kids think they're special while others have had it repeated to them enough times by their parents that they're high on the smell of their own farts. The worst of the bunch I encountered were those that would screech about their "rights" but give no shits for their responsibilities, then make life miserable for the whole class. --- http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=9458 So says Mr. Stewart. <cite>Hicks233 posted [p:895844074] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PlsGodDontBanMe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote>And by the way, just want to say thanks for making me re-live all this. Bringing back up all the baggage and bullshit I've tried my best to fucking forget. Half of this shit I've written on the edge of fucking tears, and I can't make my heart stop beating from the anger.</quote> Lmao jesus fucking christ grow up</quote> Nah this stuff can be pretty serious, those are important formative years and society fails to properly protect/guide a lot of people.</quote> A lot of them need toughening up as well. I've worked in UK secondary and sixth form and volunteered in primary. There are absolute bastards in both. The school has rules and they are to be enforced across the full student body. Some kids can't hack it and there are interventions available as well as out of school provision to give them an opportunity to refocus on their studies. This does depend on county however. Over the past twenty-five years though the kids have gotten weaker, along with society as a whole. Some kids are weak and may benefit from a nurturing approach. Others need a sound kick up the arse. Because of how in tune with feelings we're supposed to be now and shite like restorative justice - that sorely needed kick up the arse may not be possible to give, for fear of upsetting the little darlings. Some kids think they're special while others have had it repeated to them enough times by their parents that they're high on the smell of their own farts. The worst of the bunch I encountered were those that would screech about their "rights" but give no shits for their responsibilities, then make life miserable for the whole class.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR 02/10/18 6:43:14 PM #105:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo3YGCdVCko --- https://youtu.be/AqiFFGSZwq8 https://youtu.be/C9vSXxAzK_4 https://youtu.be/M57mTHyjd2E https://i.imgur.com/kgDSVVb.jpg <cite>zH0mPfR posted [p:895844163] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo3YGCdVCko</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/10/18 6:45:32 PM #106:	In 8th grade my whole table got lunch detention for a month because we were always too loud. It was pretty awesome, we got to get our food first and skip the line and then sit in the comfy chairs in the conference room since it was the only place that would fit all of us And we were much quieter when we didn't have to yell over everyone else in the cafeteria Also people giving TC shit because he's establishing that he's in charge..does your boss at work just let you walk all over them and do what you want or do they make sure people listen to what they say? It's the same thing, you start letting one person work out of uniform or take long breaks or whatever and pretty soon everyone is trying to do it because they see someone else getting away with it --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:895844275] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>In 8th grade my whole table got lunch detention for a month because we were always too loud. It was pretty awesome, we got to get our food first and skip the line and then sit in the comfy chairs in the conference room since it was the only place that would fit all of us And we were much quieter when we didn't have to yell over everyone else in the cafeteria Also people giving TC shit because he's establishing that he's in charge..does your boss at work just let you walk all over them and do what you want or do they make sure people listen to what they say? It's the same thing, you start letting one person work out of uniform or take long breaks or whatever and pretty soon everyone is trying to do it because they see someone else getting away with it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 02/10/18 6:49:11 PM #107:	Lol at anybody saying TC was abusing his power. The kid was showing obvious disrespect. --- I am basically am I. Well, basically. <cite>masticatingman posted [p:895844449] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>Lol at anybody saying TC was abusing his power. The kid was showing obvious disrespect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LJRENEGADE 02/10/18 7:30:32 PM #108:	I can see why you would do that honestly. When I was a junior in high school, I had a class with a bunch of freshman and the teacher for that class got injured so we had a sub for the rest of the year. The guy was so polite and timid and never yelled at anyone. I remember once, a bunch of kids just kept talking and talking even when he asked them to stop, and he couldn't get on with the lesson for like 10 minutes. I think another student had to yell at them before they finally shut up. I felt bad for the guy, there's so many dick teachers and they were giving shit to the one nice one. No one really liked the actual teacher for that class because she was kind of a bitch at times but she did get everyone to shut up when she wanted. On the other hand, I think if you're too strict and needlessly being a dick, the kids will just hate you and start disobeying more just because they don't like you. The teachers that got the most respect and had the most well behaved classes were the teachers that came down on shit when they needed to but were otherwise cool and understanding and just got along with the kids. I think that's probably an important thing, if the kids like you. The one teacher everyone loved was a huge dude who was pretty cool with everyone, but whenever kids fought, he'd pick them both up in each hand by their shirts and take them to the office lol But I don't know, I'm not a teacher and never would be because fuck dealing with kids <cite>LJRENEGADE posted [p:895846686] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>I can see why you would do that honestly. When I was a junior in high school, I had a class with a bunch of freshman and the teacher for that class got injured so we had a sub for the rest of the year. The guy was so polite and timid and never yelled at anyone. I remember once, a bunch of kids just kept talking and talking even when he asked them to stop, and he couldn't get on with the lesson for like 10 minutes. I think another student had to yell at them before they finally shut up. I felt bad for the guy, there's so many dick teachers and they were giving shit to the one nice one. No one really liked the actual teacher for that class because she was kind of a bitch at times but she did get everyone to shut up when she wanted. On the other hand, I think if you're too strict and needlessly being a dick, the kids will just hate you and start disobeying more just because they don't like you. The teachers that got the most respect and had the most well behaved classes were the teachers that came down on shit when they needed to but were otherwise cool and understanding and just got along with the kids. I think that's probably an important thing, if the kids like you. The one teacher everyone loved was a huge dude who was pretty cool with everyone, but whenever kids fought, he'd pick them both up in each hand by their shirts and take them to the office lol But I don't know, I'm not a teacher and never would be because fuck dealing with kids</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 02/10/18 7:34:27 PM #109:	MaverickXeo posted... MrNintendo1213 posted... Patty_Fleur posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does. It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business. Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers. If you are not firm with youth, they WILL take advantage of you. Build up that firm rule, then as time goes on, you can loosen up with them provided they show respect. Jesus fucking Christ, we have some old disconnected people on this website. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:895846899] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrNintendo1213 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patty_Fleur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does.</quote> It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business.</quote> Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers.</quote> If you are not firm with youth, they WILL take advantage of you. Build up that firm rule, then as time goes on, you can loosen up with them provided they show respect.</quote> Jesus fucking Christ, we have some old disconnected people on this website.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
epik_fail1 02/10/18 7:36:43 PM #110:	Kineth posted... MaverickXeo posted... MrNintendo1213 posted... Patty_Fleur posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does. It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business. Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers. If you are not firm with youth, they WILL take advantage of you. Build up that firm rule, then as time goes on, you can loosen up with them provided they show respect. Jesus fucking Christ, we have some old disconnected people on this website. This. I mean I understand that the teacher has to enforce school rules, but what the kid did was not that bad and the reason TC did it was objectively wrong. TC feels like the kind of guy who would self proclaim he is an alpha because of his insecurities. --- Losing an argument? Ends it with but...but...Hillary and her emails! <cite>epik_fail1 posted [p:895846996] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrNintendo1213 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patty_Fleur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does.</quote> It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business.</quote> Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers.</quote> If you are not firm with youth, they WILL take advantage of you. Build up that firm rule, then as time goes on, you can loosen up with them provided they show respect.</quote> Jesus fucking Christ, we have some old disconnected people on this website.</quote> This. I mean I understand that the teacher has to enforce school rules, but what the kid did was not that bad and the reason TC did it was objectively wrong. TC feels like the kind of guy who would self proclaim he is an alpha because of his insecurities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/10/18 7:48:38 PM #111:	The kid was breaking a rule and then broke it again a few minutes after he was corrected. It's not about how bad what he did was, because once you let one thing slide it's the slippery slope from there And yes, sometimes you have to enforce the rules just to enforce the rules. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:895847674] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>The kid was breaking a rule and then broke it again a few minutes after he was corrected. It's not about how bad what he did was, because once you let one thing slide it's the slippery slope from there And yes, sometimes you have to enforce the rules just to enforce the rules.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 02/10/18 8:03:04 PM #112:	I wouldn't listen to @soulunison2 on these things @DK9292. NYC is full of psycho ass teachers with their control problems. I can't name a single year from K all the way to 10th grade where I didn't have bully type head cases as teachers. Heck, I was straight up molested by one teacher and another almost choked me. Another kid was their thrown across the room. My friends in the Bronx had it even worse. One teacher slammed this guy's hand on the door because he was talking. His parents were connected as fuck and sued the fuck out of the city. And this is the just tip of the iceberg. I would hear about how school was totally different in places like LI and NJ. My other family and friends were disgusted by the shit I would tell them. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:895848513] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't listen to @soulunison2 on these things @DK9292. NYC is full of psycho ass teachers with their control problems. I can't name a single year from K all the way to 10th grade where I didn't have bully type head cases as teachers. Heck, I was straight up molested by one teacher and another almost choked me. Another kid was their thrown across the room. My friends in the Bronx had it even worse. One teacher slammed this guy's hand on the door because he was talking. His parents were connected as fuck and sued the fuck out of the city. And this is the just tip of the iceberg. I would hear about how school was totally different in places like LI and NJ. My other family and friends were disgusted by the shit I would tell them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
soulunison2 02/10/18 8:14:26 PM #113:	DoctorVader posted... I wouldn't listen to @soulunison2 on these things @DK9292. NYC is full of psycho ass teachers with their control problems. I can't name a single year from K all the way to 10th grade where I didn't have bully type head cases as teachers. Heck, I was straight up molested by one teacher and another almost choked me. Another kid was their thrown across the room. My friends in the Bronx had it even worse. One teacher slammed this guy's hand on the door because he was talking. His parents were connected as fuck and sued the fuck out of the city. And this is the just tip of the iceberg. I would hear about how school was totally different in places like LI and NJ. My other family and friends were disgusted by the shit I would tell them. Not gonna go against this dude here cuz the climate in some schools are really bad wont lie I can tell you stories about my first year in the Bronx, if youre all interested Tho, I am having a much better time in Brooklyn - these are my experiences and everyone has different experiences <cite>soulunison2 posted [p:895849138] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't listen to @soulunison2 on these things @DK9292. NYC is full of psycho ass teachers with their control problems. I can't name a single year from K all the way to 10th grade where I didn't have bully type head cases as teachers. Heck, I was straight up molested by one teacher and another almost choked me. Another kid was their thrown across the room. My friends in the Bronx had it even worse. One teacher slammed this guy's hand on the door because he was talking. His parents were connected as fuck and sued the fuck out of the city. And this is the just tip of the iceberg. I would hear about how school was totally different in places like LI and NJ. My other family and friends were disgusted by the shit I would tell them.</quote> Not gonna go against this dude here cuz the climate in some schools are really bad wont lie I can tell you stories about my first year in the Bronx, if youre all interested Tho, I am having a much better time in Brooklyn - these are my experiences and everyone has different experiences</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaboonsPimp 02/10/18 8:23:02 PM #114:	You're not a teacher, but an instructor. And I never understood why school workers were so uptight about hoodies anyway. It's there for a reason: to keep kids from getting sick; keep their head warm. If he wants to listen to headphones then it's his decision Maybe if he interrupted class or something give him detention but you went overboard with your 'authority' <cite>LaboonsPimp posted [p:895849668] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>You're not a teacher, but an instructor. And I never understood why school workers were so uptight about hoodies anyway. It's there for a reason: to keep kids from getting sick; keep their head warm. If he wants to listen to headphones then it's his decision Maybe if he interrupted class or something give him detention but you went overboard with your 'authority'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bagamak 02/10/18 8:30:03 PM #115:	Based on TC's own story, the kid was leaning back in his chair and the hoodie accidently came half back on. I side with the kid and his mom and it sounds like TC is very authoritarian. <cite>Bagamak posted [p:895850025] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>Based on TC's own story, the kid was leaning back in his chair and the hoodie accidently came half back on. I side with the kid and his mom and it sounds like TC is very authoritarian.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 02/10/18 8:35:21 PM #116:	people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:895850302] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 02/10/18 8:40:49 PM #117:	DK9292 posted... And by the way, just want to say thanks for making me re-live all this. Bringing back up all the baggage and bullshit I've tried my best to fucking forget. Half of this shit I've written on the edge of fucking tears, and I can't make my heart stop beating from the anger. is this a joke? you willingly posted in this topic and are spewing childish tantrums here. your obvious immaturity is probably why you got in trouble, you aren't entitled to be a rage filled whiner and have people not call you out --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:895850579] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote>And by the way, just want to say thanks for making me re-live all this. Bringing back up all the baggage and bullshit I've tried my best to fucking forget. Half of this shit I've written on the edge of fucking tears, and I can't make my heart stop beating from the anger.</quote> is this a joke? you willingly posted in this topic and are spewing childish tantrums here. your obvious immaturity is probably why you got in trouble, you aren't entitled to be a rage filled whiner and have people not call you out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bagamak 02/10/18 8:48:27 PM #118:	andel posted... people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse <cite>Bagamak posted [p:895850984] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline</quote> Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 02/10/18 8:55:39 PM #119:	Bagamak posted... andel posted... people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse nope but thanks for letting us know you are either a child or immature lmao --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:895851365] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bagamak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline</quote> Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse</quote> nope but thanks for letting us know you are either a child or immature lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 02/10/18 8:57:13 PM #120:	Patty_Fleur posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does. It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business. No one likes this type of teacher. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:895851444] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Patty_Fleur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does.</quote> It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business.</quote> No one likes this type of teacher.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 02/10/18 9:01:57 PM #121:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... but it's not my job to basically tell my bosses to f* off with that stupid rule. Fuck off with that. If it's stupid you bring this shit up. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:895851690] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>but it's not my job to basically tell my bosses to f* off with that stupid rule.</quote> Fuck off with that. If it's stupid you bring this shit up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 02/10/18 9:04:44 PM #122:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you. Fuck. You. Don't EVER enforce this bullshit "zero tolerance". --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:895851844] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you.</quote> Fuck. You. Don't EVER enforce this bullshit "zero tolerance".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mistere Man 02/10/18 9:18:57 PM #123:	It was asked earlier, but was never answered to my knowledge lunch detention is having to eat lunch at a table with a teacher, and being quite the whole time. Not so bad, heck I would take that over being locked in a 3x3 closet for the entire school day like they did with me at my old school. --- Water+Fall=Radiation. <cite>Mistere Man posted [p:895852661] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>It was asked earlier, but was never answered to my knowledge lunch detention is having to eat lunch at a table with a teacher, and being quite the whole time. Not so bad, heck I would take that over being locked in a 3x3 closet for the entire school day like they did with me at my old school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vixile 02/10/18 9:24:09 PM #124:	Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... DK9292 posted... soulunison2 posted... Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to I think you're talking shit. How about the fact that 90% of my school life was spent getting bullied, and I was the one that got punished because it was easier than disciplining the bullies? I would be intrigued to hear what constituted being bullied, and how they punished you if there was no wrong-doing. I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you. This is fucking idiotic, and I bullied people in high school lmao --- .... <cite>Vixile posted [p:895852960] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>soulunison2 posted...</cite> <quote>Give me another example, Im not downplaying your emotions Im just trying to understand the scenario. I teach at a public school so stuff like this isnt what Im used to</quote> I think you're talking shit. How about the fact that 90% of my school life was spent getting bullied, and I was the one that got punished because it was easier than disciplining the bullies?</quote> I would be intrigued to hear what constituted being bullied, and how they punished you if there was no wrong-doing. I have 100% had to punish students who reacted to bullying as opposed to the bullies because I can only act on what I see and have proof of. Thus I tell every class I'm in not to engage with the antagonistic behaviour of others, because if I spot you retaliating, I have to punish you.</quote> This is fucking idiotic, and I bullied people in high school lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bagamak 02/10/18 9:26:04 PM #125:	Some teachers give detention to kids who don't even fight back. Get beat up and then get detention for "fighting" <cite>Bagamak posted [p:895853054] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>Some teachers give detention to kids who don't even fight back. Get beat up and then get detention for "fighting"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 02/10/18 9:33:06 PM #126:	We had a wannabe hotshot new young teacher in high school. He suspended me and 2 of my friends for something we didn't do. A couple months later we ended up getting sick of his bullshit so we sliced his tires one night and just gave him hell all semester. Dude ended up transferring to another city and I've recently heard from a co-worker whose kid has this guy now that he dialed his bullshit back a lot --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://i.imgur.com/zlaENmx.png <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:895853436] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>We had a wannabe hotshot new young teacher in high school. He suspended me and 2 of my friends for something we didn't do. A couple months later we ended up getting sick of his bullshit so we sliced his tires one night and just gave him hell all semester. Dude ended up transferring to another city and I've recently heard from a co-worker whose kid has this guy now that he dialed his bullshit back a lot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vixile 02/10/18 9:40:35 PM #127:	andel posted... Bagamak posted... andel posted... people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse nope but thanks for letting us know you are either a child or immature lmao Dude brings up a reasonable alternative to flat out disobedience, with some back up from the mom/dad, and because he doesn't agree with your point of view he's "either a child or immature". I think we found the immature child, lads. --- .... <cite>Vixile posted [p:895853858] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bagamak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline</quote> Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse</quote> nope but thanks for letting us know you are either a child or immature lmao</quote> Dude brings up a reasonable alternative to flat out disobedience, with some back up from the mom/dad, and because he doesn't agree with your point of view he's "either a child or immature". I think we found the immature child, lads.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 02/10/18 10:35:59 PM #128:	Kineth posted... MaverickXeo posted... MrNintendo1213 posted... Patty_Fleur posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does. It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business. Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers. If you are not firm with youth, they WILL take advantage of you. Build up that firm rule, then as time goes on, you can loosen up with them provided they show respect. Jesus fucking Christ, we have some old disconnected people on this website. I am under 30, currently learning social work, with many years both as a youth worker and educational support. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:895856870] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrNintendo1213 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patty_Fleur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does.</quote> It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business.</quote> Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers.</quote> If you are not firm with youth, they WILL take advantage of you. Build up that firm rule, then as time goes on, you can loosen up with them provided they show respect.</quote> Jesus fucking Christ, we have some old disconnected people on this website.</quote> I am under 30, currently learning social work, with many years both as a youth worker and educational support.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hicks233 02/10/18 10:58:37 PM #129:	Trigg3rH4ppy posted... We had a wannabe hotshot new young teacher in high school. He suspended me and 2 of my friends for something we didn't do. A couple months later we ended up getting sick of his bullshit so we sliced his tires one night and just gave him hell all semester. Dude ended up transferring to another city and I've recently heard from a co-worker whose kid has this guy now that he dialed his bullshit back a lot So you really lived down to expectations then. --- http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=9458 So says Mr. Stewart. <cite>Hicks233 posted [p:895858196] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted...</cite> <quote>We had a wannabe hotshot new young teacher in high school. He suspended me and 2 of my friends for something we didn't do. A couple months later we ended up getting sick of his bullshit so we sliced his tires one night and just gave him hell all semester. Dude ended up transferring to another city and I've recently heard from a co-worker whose kid has this guy now that he dialed his bullshit back a lot</quote> So you really lived down to expectations then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 02/10/18 11:23:21 PM #130:	interesting this is the topic thats created controversy --- How quaint. Join the Dank Chamber today: https://discord.gg/YwmDmtZ <cite>C_Pain posted [p:895859472] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>interesting this is the topic thats created controversy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 02/10/18 11:44:36 PM #131:	I personally would have given the kid one more chance prior to punishment unless they had a history of disobedience along with a warning that if it happens again what the punishment would be. IMO just giving them the punishment without any warning is too much especially if they arent a common trouble. --- Quit Crying <cite>josifrees posted [p:895860464] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>I personally would have given the kid one more chance prior to punishment unless they had a history of disobedience along with a warning that if it happens again what the punishment would be. IMO just giving them the punishment without any warning is too much especially if they arent a common trouble.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vixile 02/10/18 11:56:53 PM #132:	josifrees posted... I personally would have given the kid one more chance prior to punishment unless they had a history of disobedience along with a warning that if it happens again what the punishment would be. IMO just giving them the punishment without any warning is too much especially if they arent a common trouble. According to TC, it wasn't about punishment. He just wanted to flex his "authority". --- They say that we're nobodies~ Only shadows we're meant to fade~ But I can't believe that it's true~ You're a memory I can't lose~ I'll hold on to you <cite>Vixile posted [p:895861046] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>josifrees posted...</cite> <quote>I personally would have given the kid one more chance prior to punishment unless they had a history of disobedience along with a warning that if it happens again what the punishment would be. IMO just giving them the punishment without any warning is too much especially if they arent a common trouble.</quote> According to TC, it wasn't about punishment. He just wanted to flex his "authority".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VTBM 02/11/18 12:19:47 AM #133:	The kid shouldn't have put his hood up again. --- http://darkvisionsofterror.bandcamp.com/ http://i.imgur.com/e7sCCSb.png http://i.imgtc.com/AlmbdTG49T.jpg <cite>VTBM posted [p:895862027] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>The kid shouldn't have put his hood up again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 02/11/18 12:24:22 AM #134:	Vixile posted... andel posted... Bagamak posted... andel posted... people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse nope but thanks for letting us know you are either a child or immature lmao Dude brings up a reasonable alternative to flat out disobedience, with some back up from the mom/dad, and because he doesn't agree with your point of view he's "either a child or immature". I think we found the immature child, lads. 'the guy that saw what happened is wrong, here is how it played out' --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:895862230] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vixile posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bagamak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline</quote> Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse</quote> nope but thanks for letting us know you are either a child or immature lmao</quote> Dude brings up a reasonable alternative to flat out disobedience, with some back up from the mom/dad, and because he doesn't agree with your point of view he's "either a child or immature". I think we found the immature child, lads.</quote> 'the guy that saw what happened is wrong, here is how it played out'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KawiKa 02/11/18 12:27:12 AM #135:	Patty_Fleur posted... Lol it's fun being a teacher. He had is hood on in class so I told him to take it off. 5-7 minutes he has it back on. The parent claims that the hoodie was only half way up his head because his son was leaning back in his chair. This is the first time in 1 and a half years of teaching that some parent actually got upset with me. Follow a stupid kid home, a stupid parent will answer the door --- o7 <cite>KawiKa posted [p:895862355] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Patty_Fleur posted...</cite> <quote>Lol it's fun being a teacher. He had is hood on in class so I told him to take it off. 5-7 minutes he has it back on. The parent claims that the hoodie was only half way up his head because his son was leaning back in his chair. This is the first time in 1 and a half years of teaching that some parent actually got upset with me.</quote> Follow a stupid kid home, a stupid parent will answer the door</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 02/11/18 12:33:56 AM #136:	andel posted... people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. You're hardly the grown up you think you are --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:895862624] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. </quote> You're hardly the grown up you think you are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vixile 02/11/18 12:58:12 AM #137:	andel posted... Vixile posted... andel posted... Bagamak posted... andel posted... people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse nope but thanks for letting us know you are either a child or immature lmao Dude brings up a reasonable alternative to flat out disobedience, with some back up from the mom/dad, and because he doesn't agree with your point of view he's "either a child or immature". I think we found the immature child, lads. 'the guy that saw what happened is wrong, here is how it played out' The guy never said he saw what happened. He said he looked back a few minutes later and it was up again. _OujiDoza_ posted... andel posted... people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. You're hardly the grown up you think you are oof, this ^ I hardly doubt a parent would straight up lie to a teacher over a bloody lunch detention, that would have passed by the time the parents learn about it. TC just likes feeling like a big man, but he has no real power so he resorts to preying on kids to "show who is in charge", aka flex his percieved authority. He doesn't have authority. He can give detentions, he can write referrals, but he can't make the kid do something they don't want to do or put his hands on the child. TC isn't mature or in the right here. He acts like a 15 year old who's parents tell them they're in charge for an hour and then immediately hold that over their siblings head for that hour. --- They say that we're nobodies~ Only shadows we're meant to fade~ But I can't believe that it's true~ You're a memory I can't lose~ I'll hold on to you <cite>Vixile posted [p:895863557] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vixile posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bagamak posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. kids don't get to disregard rules they don't like, part of school is to learn to do what they are told. children have to listen to teachers or face the consequences and most parents these days are terrible at parenting so teachers have to pick up the slack and teach them discipline</quote> Or we understand that the kid did an accident. His hood came back on against his will and the teacher was just waiting for an excuse</quote> nope but thanks for letting us know you are either a child or immature lmao</quote> Dude brings up a reasonable alternative to flat out disobedience, with some back up from the mom/dad, and because he doesn't agree with your point of view he's "either a child or immature". I think we found the immature child, lads.</quote> 'the guy that saw what happened is wrong, here is how it played out'</quote> The guy never said he saw what happened. He said he looked back a few minutes later and it was up again. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>andel posted...</cite> <quote>people itt siding with the students are obviously immature and childish. </quote> You're hardly the grown up you think you are</quote> oof, this ^ I hardly doubt a parent would straight up lie to a teacher over a bloody lunch detention, that would have passed by the time the parents learn about it. TC just likes feeling like a big man, but he has no real power so he resorts to preying on kids to "show who is in charge", aka flex his percieved authority. He doesn't have authority. He can give detentions, he can write referrals, but he can't make the kid do something they don't want to do or put his hands on the child. TC isn't mature or in the right here. He acts like a 15 year old who's parents tell them they're in charge for an hour and then immediately hold that over their siblings head for that hour.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 02/11/18 1:06:59 AM #138:	I stand by you. Hoods are something that should only ever be worn outside. They are otherwise used to conceal identity and I think its disrespectful on the same level as wearing a mask (or similar things). --- Stand for the anthem or sit for the game! <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:895863917] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>I stand by you. Hoods are something that should only ever be worn outside. They are otherwise used to conceal identity and I think its disrespectful on the same level as wearing a mask (or similar things).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vixile 02/11/18 1:10:27 AM #139:	southcoast09 posted... I stand by you. Hoods are something that should only ever be worn outside. They are otherwise used to conceal identity and I think its disrespectful on the same level as wearing a mask (or similar things). What kind of logic is this? You must watch too much TV, mate. Most people use hoods because their neck or ears are cold. Or because they find it comfortable. Not to "conceal their identity". If the kid was doing it to be disrespectful, sure. I doubt it, though. He either would have taken it off and put it right back on or leave it on if he was really trying to be disrespectful, not take it off and put it back on 10 minutes later without saying anything. But TC says they don't care about the hood. They want to "show who is in charge". It isn't a respect thing, or a principle thing. They just want to feel like they have power over their class. --- They say that we're nobodies~ Only shadows we're meant to fade~ But I can't believe that it's true~ You're a memory I can't lose~ I'll hold on to you <cite>Vixile posted [p:895864055] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>southcoast09 posted...</cite> <quote>I stand by you. Hoods are something that should only ever be worn outside. They are otherwise used to conceal identity and I think its disrespectful on the same level as wearing a mask (or similar things).</quote> What kind of logic is this? You must watch too much TV, mate. Most people use hoods because their neck or ears are cold. Or because they find it comfortable. Not to "conceal their identity". If the kid was doing it to be disrespectful, sure. I doubt it, though. He either would have taken it off and put it right back on or leave it on if he was really trying to be disrespectful, not take it off and put it back on 10 minutes later without saying anything. But TC says they don't care about the hood. They want to "show who is in charge". It isn't a respect thing, or a principle thing. They just want to feel like they have power over their class.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/11/18 1:34:27 AM #140:	wait would people really believe the halfass "I leaned back and it somehow went halfway up my head" excuse? you're the kind of teachers that would believe the dog ate their homework too --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:895864929] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>wait would people really believe the halfass "I leaned back and it somehow went halfway up my head" excuse? you're the kind of teachers that would believe the dog ate their homework too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vixile 02/11/18 1:40:09 AM #141:	thronedfire2 posted... wait would people really believe the halfass "I leaned back and it somehow went halfway up my head" excuse? you're the kind of teachers that would believe the dog ate their homework too If the hood is laying across the back/head of the chair, he stretches, dips a bit and leans back, and then moves up(like you would typically do if you stretch sitting down,) it could easily get caught on the bottom of his head and shimmy up a bit, appearing as if he put it back on. ^ this all sounds weird because it's late and it's hard to describe what I'm thinking of, but it isn't too out there to think about. Read my last two posts, this is the final time I'm going to say this; he DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE HOOD. He just wants to flex his "power", which is the entire issue the people in this thread have. We don't care that he got a detention. We care /why/ he got it. God, you people are either daft or don't deign to read the entire thread for some reason I can't fathom, beyond laziness. --- They say that we're nobodies~ Only shadows we're meant to fade~ But I can't believe that it's true~ You're a memory I can't lose~ I'll hold on to you <cite>Vixile posted [p:895865126] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>wait would people really believe the halfass "I leaned back and it somehow went halfway up my head" excuse? you're the kind of teachers that would believe the dog ate their homework too</quote> If the hood is laying across the back/head of the chair, he stretches, dips a bit and leans back, and then moves up(like you would typically do if you stretch sitting down,) it could easily get caught on the bottom of his head and shimmy up a bit, appearing as if he put it back on. ^ this all sounds weird because it's late and it's hard to describe what I'm thinking of, but it isn't too out there to think about. Read my last two posts, this is the final time I'm going to say this; he DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE HOOD. He just wants to flex his "power", which is the entire issue the people in this thread have. We don't care that he got a detention. We care /why/ he got it. God, you people are either daft or don't deign to read the entire thread for some reason I can't fathom, beyond laziness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/11/18 1:45:56 AM #142:	Vixile posted... thronedfire2 posted... wait would people really believe the halfass "I leaned back and it somehow went halfway up my head" excuse? you're the kind of teachers that would believe the dog ate their homework too If the hood is laying across the back/head of the chair, he stretches, dips a bit and leans back, and then moves up(like you would typically do if you stretch sitting down,) it could easily get caught on the bottom of his head and shimmy up a bit, appearing as if he put it back on. ^ this all sounds weird because it's late and it's hard to describe what I'm thinking of, but it isn't too out there to think about. Read my last two posts, this is the final time I'm going to say this; he DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE HOOD. He just wants to flex his "power", which is the entire issue the people in this thread have. We don't care that he got a detention. We care /why/ he got it. God, you people are either daft or don't deign to read the entire thread for some reason I can't fathom, beyond laziness. he doesn't NEED to care about the hood. it doesn't matter what rule was broken. it could have been ANY rule, like no eating/drinking in the class or whatever. the point is it needs to be enforced --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:895865334] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vixile posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>wait would people really believe the halfass "I leaned back and it somehow went halfway up my head" excuse? you're the kind of teachers that would believe the dog ate their homework too</quote> If the hood is laying across the back/head of the chair, he stretches, dips a bit and leans back, and then moves up(like you would typically do if you stretch sitting down,) it could easily get caught on the bottom of his head and shimmy up a bit, appearing as if he put it back on. ^ this all sounds weird because it's late and it's hard to describe what I'm thinking of, but it isn't too out there to think about. Read my last two posts, this is the final time I'm going to say this; he DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE HOOD. He just wants to flex his "power", which is the entire issue the people in this thread have. We don't care that he got a detention. We care /why/ he got it. God, you people are either daft or don't deign to read the entire thread for some reason I can't fathom, beyond laziness.</quote> he doesn't NEED to care about the hood. it doesn't matter what rule was broken. it could have been ANY rule, like no eating/drinking in the class or whatever. the point is it needs to be enforced</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vixile 02/11/18 1:49:16 AM #143:	thronedfire2 posted... Vixile posted... thronedfire2 posted... wait would people really believe the halfass "I leaned back and it somehow went halfway up my head" excuse? you're the kind of teachers that would believe the dog ate their homework too If the hood is laying across the back/head of the chair, he stretches, dips a bit and leans back, and then moves up(like you would typically do if you stretch sitting down,) it could easily get caught on the bottom of his head and shimmy up a bit, appearing as if he put it back on. ^ this all sounds weird because it's late and it's hard to describe what I'm thinking of, but it isn't too out there to think about. Read my last two posts, this is the final time I'm going to say this; he DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE HOOD. He just wants to flex his "power", which is the entire issue the people in this thread have. We don't care that he got a detention. We care /why/ he got it. God, you people are either daft or don't deign to read the entire thread for some reason I can't fathom, beyond laziness. he doesn't NEED to care about the hood. it doesn't matter what rule was broken. it could have been ANY rule, like no eating/drinking in the class or whatever. the point is it needs to be enforced He does. He made it a point that the only reason he gave the kid a detention was to try and flex his (perceived) authority. I'm done talking about this, read my above posts. If he didn't do it just to try and feel big, I personally wouldnt care, but as it is he's flexing on /children/. --- They say that we're nobodies~ Only shadows we're meant to fade~ But I can't believe that it's true~ You're a memory I can't lose~ I'll hold on to you <cite>Vixile posted [p:895865429] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vixile posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>wait would people really believe the halfass "I leaned back and it somehow went halfway up my head" excuse? you're the kind of teachers that would believe the dog ate their homework too</quote> If the hood is laying across the back/head of the chair, he stretches, dips a bit and leans back, and then moves up(like you would typically do if you stretch sitting down,) it could easily get caught on the bottom of his head and shimmy up a bit, appearing as if he put it back on. ^ this all sounds weird because it's late and it's hard to describe what I'm thinking of, but it isn't too out there to think about. Read my last two posts, this is the final time I'm going to say this; he DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE HOOD. He just wants to flex his "power", which is the entire issue the people in this thread have. We don't care that he got a detention. We care /why/ he got it. God, you people are either daft or don't deign to read the entire thread for some reason I can't fathom, beyond laziness.</quote> he doesn't NEED to care about the hood. it doesn't matter what rule was broken. it could have been ANY rule, like no eating/drinking in the class or whatever. the point is it needs to be enforced</quote> He does. He made it a point that the only reason he gave the kid a detention was to try and flex his (perceived) authority. I'm done talking about this, read my above posts. If he didn't do it just to try and feel big, I personally wouldnt care, but as it is he's flexing on /children/.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 02/11/18 2:08:58 AM #144:	I doubt it was for any type of gang affiliation, I've never heard of any that specifically keep their hoods up. Having hoods and hats off inside schools and government buildings is a common rule as far as I know. I've seen grown men have small fits because they were asked to remove their caps in court rooms. We obviously don't know more about the kid than what the opening says, but if he constantly has to be told not to do something, he'll have to face his consequences. Lunch detention just means he had to sit in an alternate area anyway. He'll get over it. --- The 17th King of the State of K <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:895866046] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>I doubt it was for any type of gang affiliation, I've never heard of any that specifically keep their hoods up. Having hoods and hats off inside schools and government buildings is a common rule as far as I know. I've seen grown men have small fits because they were asked to remove their caps in court rooms. We obviously don't know more about the kid than what the opening says, but if he constantly has to be told not to do something, he'll have to face his consequences. Lunch detention just means he had to sit in an alternate area anyway. He'll get over it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duwstai 02/11/18 2:43:30 AM #145:	Once he disobeyed you gotta lay down the law. It is what it is. I would try avoid nitpicky baby crap though. I always respected the teachers who were stern but reasonable. Never the ones on a power Trip and tried to enforce petty crap as a show of power. It makes them come off as desperate and just made me act out more, because I knew how much they wanted that power. Know how to pick your battles. If a rule can't be effectively enforced, it's better to turn a blind eye than look like an ineffectual leader --- balls <cite>Duwstai posted [p:895867039] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote>Once he disobeyed you gotta lay down the law. It is what it is. I would try avoid nitpicky baby crap though. I always respected the teachers who were stern but reasonable. Never the ones on a power Trip and tried to enforce petty crap as a show of power. It makes them come off as desperate and just made me act out more, because I knew how much they wanted that power. Know how to pick your battles. If a rule can't be effectively enforced, it's better to turn a blind eye than look like an ineffectual leader</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 02/11/18 2:48:04 AM #146:	DK9292 posted... soulunison2 posted... DK9292 posted... soulunison2 posted... then people start challenging the teacher Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged. Honestly, like I said - I dont expect anyone who isnt a teacher to understand why we come down so hard on stuff like this Oh, perfect, real fucking mature. "If you're not a teacher, then you're just too stupid to understand." Shit like this is why teachers genuinely piss me off. you dont get upset at engineers when they (in your uneducated, uninformed, worthless opinion) do something you dont like. why should a teachers decision be different? come back when you have a degree in education --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:895867161] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>soulunison2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>soulunison2 posted...</cite> <quote>then people start challenging the teacher </quote> Then maybe it's something that needs to be fucking challenged.</quote> Honestly, like I said - I dont expect anyone who isnt a teacher to understand why we come down so hard on stuff like this</quote> Oh, perfect, real fucking mature. "If you're not a teacher, then you're just too stupid to understand." Shit like this is why teachers genuinely piss me off.</quote> you dont get upset at engineers when they (in your uneducated, uninformed, worthless opinion) do something you dont like. why should a teachers decision be different? come back when you have a degree in education</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 02/11/18 2:51:54 AM #147:	MaverickXeo posted... Kineth posted... MaverickXeo posted... MrNintendo1213 posted... Patty_Fleur posted... Jeff AKA Snoopy posted... As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does. It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business. Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers. If you are not firm with youth, they WILL take advantage of you. Build up that firm rule, then as time goes on, you can loosen up with them provided they show respect. Jesus fucking Christ, we have some old disconnected people on this website. I am under 30, currently learning social work, with many years both as a youth worker and educational support. Old in spirit, but good on you for choosing a career path that's intent on bettering others lives. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:895867236] in A parent g... [t:76305310]...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MaverickXeo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrNintendo1213 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Patty_Fleur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...</cite> <quote>As a teacher myself, just wondering, is that against dress code? I normally don't care about hoodies or anything unless the school I'm teaching at does.</quote> It's associated with gangs. It's not about the hood. I honestly don't care. It's about showing the kids who is in charge. I'm a young looking teacher so I try to find opportunities like this to show the kids I mean business.</quote> Oh, okay so you're just being one of those teachers.</quote> If you are not firm with youth, they WILL take advantage of you. Build up that firm rule, then as time goes on, you can loosen up with them provided they show respect.</quote> Jesus fucking Christ, we have some old disconnected people on this website.</quote> I am under 30, currently learning social work, with many years both as a youth worker and educational support.</quote> Old in spirit, but good on you for choosing a career path that's intent on bettering others lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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