Current Events > Learn how to deny ICE agents access to your workplace ITT. Know your rights!

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-Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents often present a document that says warrant on it but that doesnt mean that its a judicial warrant.

Under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, only a judicial warrant allows authorities to search a home or business or make an arrest

A judicial warrant will be signed by a judge and will have the name of a state or federal court at the top. An administrative warrant will be signed by an ICE supervisor and that does not allow ICE entry.

-You are not obligated to turn over extra information if authorities come looking for a certain person. You dont have to say, Oh, hes not here but you can find him at the corner store, or offer to look up a home address or things like that.

-Employers also have the right to three days notice if the feds instigate whats known as an I-9 probe basically, a review of employees working papers

The more you know!
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IDK who else would be interested in this info, this is all per the NY teamsters union

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/n-y-teamsters-form-sanctuary-union-fight-ice-agents-article-1.3813201
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How about just not employ illegals?

Why the hell would I want to deny ICE? Hell I wish they'd post up out front hauling away the illegal customers.

Your priorities are fuckin whack man
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What kind of stuff are you trying to hide now?
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Have you ever tried just being in a country legally?
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Fishy posted...

Have you ever tried just being in a country legally?

That's obviously too hard for some people.
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I thought TC was on the level. This is disappointing
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nah, fuck ICE

Bullet_Wing posted...

Ignorant magas don't understand that the not-so-hidden backbone of our economy is undocumented employees.

Imagine for a second what would happen to the price of orange juice, to use just one example, if all illegals picking oranges were deported and replaced with minimum wage workers.

Think of how many industries have jobs like this relying on that low paid labor.

I'm not passing judgment on whether this is a good or bad thing, but to suddenly strip away that class of worker will have severe economic effects.

The same argument could have been made for slaves in the south tbqh.

Doesn't mean it wasn't right to end slavery.

We should get these companies to stop hiring illegals and paying them almost nothing to do slave work.

Bullet_Wing posted...

Ignorant magas don't understand that the not-so-hidden backbone of our economy is undocumented employees.

Imagine for a second what would happen to the price of orange juice, to use just one example, if all illegals picking oranges were deported and replaced with minimum wage workers.

Think of how many industries have jobs like this relying on that low paid labor.

I'm not passing judgment on whether this is a good or bad thing, but to suddenly strip away that class of worker will have severe economic effects.

To act like, even with modern prices, these companies aren't making a fuck ton of profits is ridiculous,

It would cut into their profit margins, they'd regroup, and the market would stabilize. Sure, it might be higher, but it won't be astronomical.

Employers who hire illegals are a huge part of the problem, and they peddle this bullshit all the time.
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...

We should get these companies to stop hiring illegals and paying them almost nothing to do slave work.

expected from a tip country
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Solidarity, TC
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Ignorant magas don't understand that the not-so-hidden backbone of our economy is undocumented employees.

Imagine for a second what would happen to the price of orange juice, to use just one example, if all illegals picking oranges were deported and replaced with minimum wage workers.

Think of how many industries have jobs like this relying on that low paid labor.

I'm not passing judgment on whether this is a good or bad thing, but to suddenly strip away that class of worker will have severe economic effects.

How dare ICE deport our slave labor!
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Slaves didn't want to be slaves. These workers are content as they are. Also, your argument is one that Democrats use for raising minimum wage, lol.

They're content where they are because there is nothing left to go to.

And you say that as if I'm not for a hire minimum wage.

Bullet_Wing posted...

Ignorant magas don't understand that the not-so-hidden backbone of our economy is undocumented employees.

Imagine for a second what would happen to the price of orange juice, to use just one example, if all illegals picking oranges were deported and replaced with minimum wage workers.

Think of how many industries have jobs like this relying on that low paid labor.

I'm not passing judgment on whether this is a good or bad thing, but to suddenly strip away that class of worker will have severe economic effects.

There after many reasons to dislike current immigration enforcement that are currently happening, but wanting illegals here so they can keep working below good wages, is not one
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Well, at least we've gotten to the point where we are arguing to keep the slave wages because "the slaves weren't willing to do the work, the illegal immigrants are"
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Sir, are you pulling me over?

ICE is great. if I met an ICE worker, I'd shake their hand.

Bullet wing kinda fucked that one lol

Also I'm a Trump supporter and I support a minimum wage increase
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Mass deportations at this point will do more harm than good.

Good

Maybe things will get better after the rough period.

Imagine if the idea that "it will do harm" was taken seriously during slave times

Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Tezlok posted...

if I met an ICE worker, I'd shake their hand.

I think I'd probably spit in their face

you would be arrested and while you are being dragged away, I'd be asking for the agent's autograph

Fishy posted...

Have you ever tried just being in a country legally?

Wasn't my choice to come here.
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Tezlok posted...

if I met an ICE worker, I'd shake their hand.

I think I'd probably spit in their face

Battery on a federal officer would probably be a mistake, but you do you
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ICE needs a wide sweeping authority to deport anyone who doesn't have a legal status here, no matter what age or how long they've been here

Snuck in? deport
Overstayed a visa? deport
Committed a crime? revoke green card and deport

Tezlok posted...

Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Tezlok posted...

if I met an ICE worker, I'd shake their hand.

I think I'd probably spit in their face

you would be arrested and while you are being dragged away, I'd be asking for the agent's autograph

What are you 3 all doing hanging out at the same jobsite.
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Pow Pow Punishment posted...

Fishy posted...

Have you ever tried just being in a country legally?

Wasn't my choice to come here.

Well you can blame your parents for whatever happens. Hopefully you'll be headed home soon.
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If I was an ICE agent tasked with deporting PPP I'd probably just flee the country myself unless he's not still built like a 90's comicbook hero
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Its funny when Americans dont stop to think what would happen if the illegals were thrown out. You think 300lb Billy Bob is going to be able to work in one of the 1 million sq ft distribution warehouses picking orders and shit for $10/hr just so the prices of your groceries dont skyrocket?

mustang90 posted...

Its funny when Americans dont stop to think what would happen if the illegals were thrown out. You think 300lb Billy Bob is going to be able to work in one of the 1 million sq ft distribution warehouses picking orders and shit for $10/hr just so the prices of your groceries dont skyrocket?

"We can't deport the illegals because it would destroy the economy to not have slaves picking our food"
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ThePrinceFish posted...

mustang90 posted...

Its funny when Americans dont stop to think what would happen if the illegals were thrown out. You think 300lb Billy Bob is going to be able to work in one of the 1 million sq ft distribution warehouses picking orders and shit for $10/hr just so the prices of your groceries dont skyrocket?

"We can't deport the illegals because it would destroy the economy to not have slaves picking our food"

So theyre deported then what? Do you think suddenly the billion dollar corporations will start paying Americans $15/hr to do the same job?

ICe is a fucking garbage organization
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glitteringfairy posted...

Well you can blame your parents for whatever happens. Hopefully you'll be headed home soon.

Duh, that's the point of saying it wasn't my choice so the corollary is that it's obviously the fault of whoever made the choice for me. Same as your ancestors coming here and you being born where you were.

And as a DACA recipient that's not going to happen for a while, sorry. :)
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Good topic TC.

Pow Pow Punishment posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

Well you can blame your parents for whatever happens. Hopefully you'll be headed home soon.

Duh, that's the point of saying it wasn't my choice so the corollary is that it's obviously the fault of whoever made the choice for me. Same as your ancestors coming here and you being born where you were.

And as a DACA recipient that's not going to happen for a while, sorry. :)

Remember which political party supported DACA when you can vote.

That's what they're most afraid of.