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Geiki Ganger
02/14/18 5:53:27 PM
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After the high school shooting in Florida, surely the politicians have to go "Enough is enough, we must introduce more stringent gun control rules."

Right?
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CableZL
02/14/18 5:54:13 PM
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ThePrinceFish
02/14/18 5:54:45 PM
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Any suggestions or is this another generic "more stringent gun control rules" topic
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Electrokinesis
02/14/18 5:55:29 PM
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I don't know why you'd think that any one incident will be enough at this point.
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gunplagirl
02/14/18 5:56:01 PM
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Item turns out to be dangerous, gets recalled and legislation to protect consumers and those around them.

Weapon invented solely for the purpose of killing or causing catastrophic damage to others, perfectly acceptable to have because the founding fathers. For what it's worth, many of the founding fathers thought it was acceptable to own other people as long as they were black. Supposing they even acknowledged black people as people.
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Paragon21XX
02/14/18 5:57:53 PM
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What's there to control?
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Sativa_Rose
02/14/18 6:02:31 PM
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One of the fundamental problems with the gun control discussion is the lack of discussion of actual policies. The words "gun control" are almost meaningless, it could mean so many different policies. People need to start actually getting more specific on policy changes if they think something can or should be done about guns.
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ThePrinceFish
02/14/18 6:03:17 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
One of the fundamental problems with the gun control discussion is the lack of discussion of actual policies. The words "gun control" are almost meaningless, it could mean so many different policies. People need to start actually getting more specific on policy changes if they think something can or should be done about guns.

But if they threw out what they think should be done, they might find out that most of their suggestions are actually already in the law and then where would we be?
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ArchiePeck
02/14/18 6:03:21 PM
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Mental health assessment and treatment needs to be more readily available. Normal, healthy people simply don't have urges to commit mass murder, regardless of whether or not they have access to guns.

Our country has a healthcare problem as much as anything else.
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NightMarishPie
02/14/18 6:03:38 PM
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Thoughts
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gunplagirl
02/14/18 6:03:45 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
This is a tough one. I personally know people who would be dead or victims of sexual assault had they not been armed. Also, there's no guarantee that stricter laws would change anything. It's not difficult at all to get weapons illegally.

I do acknowledge that something needs to be done, but damned if I know what it is.


It took a few years but Canada managed to get basically all guns out of civilian circulation

And having them out of circulation could be used as leverage to finally push for police to not assume every movement near the waist is towards a gun that usually doesn't exist
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Sativa_Rose
02/14/18 6:03:52 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
One of the fundamental problems with the gun control discussion is the lack of discussion of actual policies. The words "gun control" are almost meaningless, it could mean so many different policies. People need to start actually getting more specific on policy changes if they think something can or should be done about guns.

But if they threw out what they think should be done, they might find out that most of their suggestions are actually already in the law and then where would we be?


At least people would be more informed about the situation
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Sativa_Rose
02/14/18 6:04:27 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
It took a few years but Canada managed to get basically all guns out of civilian circulation


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Canada has 30 guns per 100 citizens. This is some fake news right here.

Here's a more recent article about it since those wiki states are kind of old

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-s-restricted-gun-ownership-increased-9-5-per-cent-in-2015-1.3745464
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Tmaster148
02/14/18 6:04:29 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
This is a tough one. I personally know people who would be dead or victims of sexual assault had they not been armed. Also, there's no guarantee that stricter laws would change anything. It's not difficult at all to get weapons illegally.

I do acknowledge that something needs to be done, but damned if I know what it is.


There's two things we can do that would help.

1. Requiring people purchasing a gun pass a course teaching them proper gun safety. This would be to target people leaving their guns out in the open causing accidental harm to a child getting hold of it.

2. Each state has their own gun control laws. Some states can be pretty lax while others are pretty strict. You could instate a federal min standard higher than what some states currently do. This would help reduce the amount of guns people are buying.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/14/18 6:05:02 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Any suggestions or is this another generic "more stringent gun control rules" topic


Just another "ugh Trump and republicans are child murderers and sexist racists who refuse to talk about gun control" with no actual thought or ideas.
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Antifar
02/14/18 6:05:44 PM
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Sorry, you have to wait for the one week a year without a mass shooting to have this discussion.
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Blue_Dream87
02/14/18 6:06:27 PM
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Improve mental health, restrict private sales of guns. Hell I'm okay with issuing gun licenses. Of course people would argue that it's not a good idea to let the guvment have all that information, but let's be honest, a revolution would be instantly quelled unless the military was turned.
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gunplagirl
02/14/18 6:06:44 PM
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ArchiePeck posted...
Mental health assessment and treatment needs to be more readily available. Normal, healthy people simply don't have urges to commit mass murder, regardless of whether or not they have access to guns.

Our country has a healthcare problem as much as anything else.

Most of these shooters were pretty standard people as far as their peers were concerned, mental health checks will help with mass shootings being lowered but it's not going to drastically cut the number of deaths from guns. Crimes of opportunity (like all those "Jonny and Bill had a fight and Jonny went to his truck and came back and fired" stories) are what causes most gun deaths in America.

Oh, and more people die every year from toddlers getting ahold of guns than terrorist attacks, but that's none of my business.
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gunplagirl
02/14/18 6:08:17 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It took a few years but Canada managed to get basically all guns out of civilian circulation


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Canada has 30 guns per 100 citizens. This is some fake news right here.

Here's a more recent article about it since those wiki states are kind of old

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-s-restricted-gun-ownership-increased-9-5-per-cent-in-2015-1.3745464

Huh. Was I thinking of australia? Typing while on a crowded train and getting elbowed by a toddler is distracting.
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Paper_Okami
02/14/18 6:08:47 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGc5h1yWHQ

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gunplagirl
02/14/18 6:09:52 PM
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Oh goodness, the kid finally got off the train. :l

Need to make a topic about that.
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darkjedilink
02/14/18 6:12:27 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
Any suggestions or is this another generic "more stringent gun control rules" topic

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DifferentialEquation
02/14/18 6:18:16 PM
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The people who support gun control are usually very reluctant to make known their end game (except for the few that openly admit that they want a complete ban) and they try to act like they're on the morally righteous side.
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babyeatermax
02/14/18 6:19:51 PM
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lol this guy. You must be new here
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Genocet1
02/14/18 6:22:41 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
gunplagirl posted...
It took a few years but Canada managed to get basically all guns out of civilian circulation


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

Canada has 30 guns per 100 citizens. This is some fake news right here.

Here's a more recent article about it since those wiki states are kind of old

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-s-restricted-gun-ownership-increased-9-5-per-cent-in-2015-1.3745464

Huh. Was I thinking of australia? Typing while on a crowded train and getting elbowed by a toddler is distracting.


Well to be fair America has more than 100 guns per 100 citizens.
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KingCrabCake
02/14/18 11:22:05 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
This is a tough one. I personally know people who would be dead or victims of sexual assault had they not been armed. Also, there's no guarantee that stricter laws would change anything. It's not difficult at all to get weapons illegally.

I do acknowledge that something needs to be done, but damned if I know what it is.


It took a few years but Canada managed to get basically all guns out of civilian circulation

And having them out of circulation could be used as leverage to finally push for police to not assume every movement near the waist is towards a gun that usually doesn't exist


America cant keep drugs or people out of the country....but you're right. It'll totally keep guns out!
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