Current Events > Nikolas Cruz - left in handcuffs, Trayvon Martin - left in a bodybag

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Balrog0
02/16/18 10:25:35 AM
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I have so many thoughts about Wednesday, but Ill say this:

Nikolas Cruz - a white nationalist affiliating, 19 year old mass murderer carrying an AR-15 - left in handcuffs.

Trayvon Martin - an unarmed, 17 year old carrying a bag of skittles and a sweet tea - left in a bodybag.

#NeverForget


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Burgess
02/16/18 10:26:22 AM
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Why did you post that on your wall.
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GuyCarlPeterson
02/16/18 10:26:37 AM
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Call them names please.
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Joeydollaz
02/16/18 10:27:13 AM
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uh did you forget the White kid that kill the people in the black church?
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Balrog0
02/16/18 10:27:16 AM
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Burgess posted...
Why did you post that on your wall.


feed, wall, whatever

my bad
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Burgess
02/16/18 10:27:34 AM
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So why did you.
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GoriIIa
02/16/18 10:28:06 AM
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qwhite an interesting observation
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UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 10:28:27 AM
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Well because one guy tried to murder another man who happened to be armed and shot him in self-defense. The criminal then sadly died from the wound.

And the other shot 17 people, then disarmed himself, tried to run away and was caught by police.

Not hard to understand why one died and the other didn't.
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hollow_shrine
02/16/18 10:34:21 AM
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ItsVinceRusso posted...
Arizona Tea is nasty...what a disgrace to real tea

Yes, the tea in this topic is much richer.
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Patchwork
02/16/18 11:03:53 AM
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That's not a valid comparison
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ilovuuu
02/16/18 11:14:22 AM
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i dunno man. you are usually good with posts but these are two different situations.

Zimmerman likely should have gone to prison though
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Doe
02/16/18 11:15:00 AM
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These were the exact same situations

It's hard to feel sympathy for somebody's political cause when they spew nonsense
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Unsugarized_Foo
02/16/18 11:16:13 AM
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Nikolas Cruz could have been CE's son
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lilORANG
02/16/18 11:16:30 AM
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Trayvon was not shot by cops.

I don't think the Cruz kid was armed when he was apprehended. I heard he dumped the gun and tried to flee.
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Scotty_Rogers
02/16/18 11:17:00 AM
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The circumstances are very different. Do people really not think?
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Unsugarized_Foo
02/16/18 11:22:37 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
The circumstances are very different. Do people really not think?


If people thought all the time nothing would get done!
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Balrog0
02/16/18 11:24:19 AM
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ilovuuu posted...
i dunno man. you are usually good with posts but these are two different situations.

Zimmerman likely should have gone to prison though


it isnt my post lol
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ilovuuu
02/16/18 11:25:14 AM
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oh sorry I brain farted lol
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DifferentialEquation
02/16/18 11:29:59 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Well because one guy tried to murder another man who happened to be armed and shot him in self-defense. The criminal then sadly died from the wound.


Was Trayon trying to murder him? I'm not arguing with whether or not Trayvon attacked him, but there's a difference between wanting to kick someone's ass and wanting to murder them.
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KillerKhan420
02/16/18 11:30:20 AM
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ItsVinceRusso posted...
Arizona Tea is nasty...what a disgrace to real tea


Arnold Palmer's half and half is OP, nerf plz.
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YourDrunkFather
02/16/18 11:33:50 AM
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I'm sure it still got a ton of likes and positive comments despite being really stupid.
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FLUFFYGERM
02/16/18 11:34:04 AM
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why do you have stupid people added on your FB, Balrog
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Balrog0
02/16/18 11:35:05 AM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
why do you have stupid people added on your FB, Balrog


these aren't stupid people, though
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Balrog0
02/16/18 11:35:13 AM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
I'm sure it still got a tin of likes and positive comments despite being really stupid.


yes
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darkjedilink
02/16/18 11:38:11 AM
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ilovuuu posted...
i dunno man. you are usually good with posts but these are two different situations.

Zimmerman likely should have gone to prison though

Imagine thinking self-defense is a crime.
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gamepimp12
02/16/18 11:39:48 AM
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I dont think theyre equalizing the crimes

Just a reference to the different level of threat they where precived as by both the public and the media.

The general press around those situations says that Trayvon and mike brown are more irredeemable in death then this kid is after he killed 18 people.
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FLUFFYGERM
02/16/18 11:39:55 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
why do you have stupid people added on your FB, Balrog


these aren't stupid people, though


then why do they say such stupid things
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Balrog0
02/16/18 11:40:18 AM
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humans are somethin else man
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Balrog0
02/16/18 11:42:15 AM
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indeed
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eston
02/16/18 11:43:20 AM
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Trayvon was not killed my the police and there was quite a bit of uproar over his death, so I'm not sure why anyone would draw this comparison.
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gamepimp12
02/16/18 11:46:29 AM
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eston posted...
Trayvon was not killed my the police and there was quite a bit of uproar over his death, so I'm not sure why anyone would draw this comparison.


And there was just as equal of a voice saying he was a thug that got what he deserved.

The fact that you can seriously argue the media and public is treating Cruz/most mass shooters better is a problem
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WaffIeElite
02/16/18 11:49:20 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well because one guy tried to murder another man who happened to be armed and shot him in self-defense. The criminal then sadly died from the wound.


Was Trayon trying to murder him? I'm not arguing with whether or not Trayvon attacked him, but there's a difference between wanting to kick someone's ass and wanting to murder them.


He was. Trayvon was slamming Zimmerman's head into the concrete. Clear cut self-defense.
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AdviceMan
02/16/18 11:52:12 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well because one guy tried to murder another man who happened to be armed and shot him in self-defense. The criminal then sadly died from the wound.


Was Trayon trying to murder him? I'm not arguing with whether or not Trayvon attacked him, but there's a difference between wanting to kick someone's ass and wanting to murder them.


Wat an odd DifferentialEquation post.
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RikashiX
02/16/18 11:52:32 AM
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Well for one he wasnt white.
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eston
02/16/18 11:57:24 AM
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gamepimp12 posted...
eston posted...
Trayvon was not killed my the police and there was quite a bit of uproar over his death, so I'm not sure why anyone would draw this comparison.


And there was just as equal of a voice saying he was a thug that got what he deserved.

The fact that you can seriously argue the media and public is treating Cruz/most mass shooters better is a problem

So half the people defended Trayvon, the other half called him a thug. How many people are defending Nikolas Cruz?
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Heineken14
02/16/18 11:58:14 AM
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lilORANG posted...
I don't think the Cruz kid was armed when he was apprehended. I heard he dumped the gun and tried to flee.


Shit, sounds even worse than that. Supposedly he stopped at a McDonalds and went shopping at a Walmart afterward.

Which, yeah, knowing that now I can see why he wasn't shot.
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DifferentialEquation
02/16/18 12:00:09 PM
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AdviceMan posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well because one guy tried to murder another man who happened to be armed and shot him in self-defense. The criminal then sadly died from the wound.


Was Trayon trying to murder him? I'm not arguing with whether or not Trayvon attacked him, but there's a difference between wanting to kick someone's ass and wanting to murder them.


Wat an odd DifferentialEquation post.


What's odd about this? If I'm wrong then give me link/source, but I don't recall any evidence suggesting that Trayvon's intent was to murder Zimmerman.
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gamepimp12
02/16/18 12:05:33 PM
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eston posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
eston posted...
Trayvon was not killed my the police and there was quite a bit of uproar over his death, so I'm not sure why anyone would draw this comparison.


And there was just as equal of a voice saying he was a thug that got what he deserved.

The fact that you can seriously argue the media and public is treating Cruz/most mass shooters better is a problem

So half the people defended Trayvon, the other half called him a thug. How many people are defending Nikolas Cruz?


Considering the amount of excuses hes given like being a lonely troubled kid with mental health issues a lot more then Trayvon got
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AdviceMan
02/16/18 12:05:44 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
AdviceMan posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well because one guy tried to murder another man who happened to be armed and shot him in self-defense. The criminal then sadly died from the wound.


Was Trayon trying to murder him? I'm not arguing with whether or not Trayvon attacked him, but there's a difference between wanting to kick someone's ass and wanting to murder them.


Wat an odd DifferentialEquation post.


What's odd about this? If I'm wrong then give me link/source, but I don't recall any evidence suggesting that Trayvon's intent was to murder Zimmerman.


No it's odd because you took that position. Usually you say the most inflammatory thing possible in every discussion.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
02/16/18 12:08:09 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
AdviceMan posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well because one guy tried to murder another man who happened to be armed and shot him in self-defense. The criminal then sadly died from the wound.


Was Trayon trying to murder him? I'm not arguing with whether or not Trayvon attacked him, but there's a difference between wanting to kick someone's ass and wanting to murder them.


Wat an odd DifferentialEquation post.


What's odd about this? If I'm wrong then give me link/source, but I don't recall any evidence suggesting that Trayvon's intent was to murder Zimmerman.

Slamming someones head repeatedly onto concrete is is a justifiable reason for some to fear for their life. Punching is wanting to kick someones ass.
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Patchwork
02/16/18 12:08:35 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
ilovuuu posted...
i dunno man. you are usually good with posts but these are two different situations.

Zimmerman likely should have gone to prison though

Imagine thinking self-defense is a crime.


Imagine allowing someone who stalked a juvenile at night to use self defense as a justification to kill said juvenile.
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The_Ivory_Man
02/16/18 12:10:33 PM
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ilovuuu posted...
i dunno man. you are usually good with posts but these are two different situations.

Zimmerman likely should have gone to prison though


Problem with Zimmerman was they tried to get him with murder when it wasn't premeditated, he probably could have been charged with manslaughter.

He did blatantly ignore the police instructions too.
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KarmaMuffin
02/16/18 12:28:04 PM
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Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
Slamming someones head repeatedly onto concrete is is a justifiable reason for some to fear for their life.

The problem I don't think is whether Zimmerman was justified in shooting him, it's questioning UR's claim that Martin was attempting to murder him.
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DifferentialEquation
02/16/18 1:28:35 PM
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AdviceMan posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
AdviceMan posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Well because one guy tried to murder another man who happened to be armed and shot him in self-defense. The criminal then sadly died from the wound.


Was Trayon trying to murder him? I'm not arguing with whether or not Trayvon attacked him, but there's a difference between wanting to kick someone's ass and wanting to murder them.


Wat an odd DifferentialEquation post.


What's odd about this? If I'm wrong then give me link/source, but I don't recall any evidence suggesting that Trayvon's intent was to murder Zimmerman.


No it's odd because you took that position. Usually you say the most inflammatory thing possible in every discussion.


You probably have me confused with someone else.
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ilovuuu
02/16/18 1:29:24 PM
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he's just breaking gimmick right now
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SageHarpuia
02/16/18 1:29:43 PM
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Are you implying police should have shot Cruz?
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Nazanir
02/16/18 1:40:14 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
I have so many thoughts about Wednesday, but Ill say this:

Nikolas Cruz - a white nationalist affiliating, 19 year old mass murderer carrying an AR-15 - left in handcuffs.

Trayvon Martin - an unarmed, 17 year old carrying a bag of skittles and a sweet tea - left in a bodybag.

#NeverForget


post from my fb wall

why?

One thing that always baffles me, whenever a tragedy happens, people immediately insert a personal agenda, or politics into it. Who fucking cares that another murderer was shot or not, 17 lives were lost, families were destroyed, but sure, lets focus on skin colour.
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UnfairRepresent
02/16/18 2:21:31 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...


Was Trayon trying to murder him?

Yes
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