Poll of the Day > why schools?

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why are schools always the target for these shootings?

i know in a lot of these instances, the shooter is a student, and they're expressing their anger in the place they get the most frustrated. however, some of these shooters are grown ass men, long out of school, ok?

what is it about schools that makes them such a target? of all the places and greedy institutions in the world that are truly causing harm and pain to others, why are schools the main place getting shot up?
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schools aren't "always" the target. nightclubs, outdoor concert venues, arenas, schools, movie theaters, malls, workplaces... everywhere is a target.
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https://youtu.be/j9yBPcn8IqU?t=32s

Jen0125 posted...

schools aren't "always" the target. nightclubs, outdoor concert venues, arenas, schools, movie theaters, malls, workplaces... everywhere is a target.

well sure, but schools are a much more common target, ok?

everywhere has been shot up, but schools just get it way more than anywhere else it seems, ok?
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'Cuz America deifies children for some reason
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ZiggiStardust posted...

Jen0125 posted...

schools aren't "always" the target. nightclubs, outdoor concert venues, arenas, schools, movie theaters, malls, workplaces... everywhere is a target.

well sure, but schools are a much more common target, ok?

everywhere has been shot up, but schools just get it way more than anywhere else it seems, ok?

most of the time it's student vs student. i can't think of the last mass shooting against students that wasn't perpetrated by a student who is in the school or recently graduated from that school.

and that happens because teenagers don't have the most rational thinking or the best emotional control.
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we've got a lot of troubled kids growing up in a world where they are constantly told they are the victims, and they go to schools where just about any form discipline is borderline illegal.

i do not care how much it costs, or how bad it might break the bank. Rein is going to a private school.
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There's a high concentration of angst. Teenagers can be shit asses, but there's a ton of social pressure on them sometimes (both inside and outside of school) and unfortunately it creates time bombs.

Sometimes they self implode (commit suicide) sometimes they lash out at others (bullying) and in some cases they just want to cause as much damage as possible (killing those around them) because they're numb to the world.

At least that's my theory.

But why male models?

Andromicus posted...

But why male models?

are you joking? i just explained that.
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*Didn't read the OP >.>*

party_animal07 posted...

There's a high concentration of angst.

While I never really liked the word (it is a loanword meaning fear, not anxiety), that is basically it. Teenagers are developing mentally and physically and that brings along a lot of emotional baggage. Which can get easily mishandled because we always want to standardize how to deal with everything, except that only helps the average person (which simply do not exist).

Obviously the response will be based what is available and "normal" to them. My secondary school was next to the train tracks, at least once a month there would be a jumper, often a teenager and the school populace would be aware of it and overtime got desensitized to it. I can imagine that in a place like the US, with the culture and gun availability, guns might be that "normal" outlet more easily.
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I can't help but notice the total dearth of mass shootings at gun shops, gun ranges, and police stations.

It's almost as if the shooters want to cause the most damage possible with the lowest risk of retaliation.

If guns themselves were the problem, you'd think that statistically these shootings would happen where large numbers of guns were to be found in close proximity to one another, but this clearly isn't the case. Declaring "gun free zones" practically advertises to a potential shooter free reign to fire at will free from risk.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

I can't help but notice the total dearth of mass shootings at gun shops, gun ranges, and police stations.

It's almost as if the shooters want to cause the most damage possible with the lowest risk of retaliation.

If guns themselves were the problem, you'd think that statistically these shootings would happen where large numbers of guns were to be found in close proximity to one another, but this clearly isn't the case. Declaring "gun free zones" practically advertises to a potential shooter free reign to fire at will free from risk.

This is absolutely correct. Shooters target gun free zones because they know they have little chance of being stopped in the act.

People are saying "it's time for Congress to do something"... Well it's time we start talking about allowing teachers and staff to carry concealed. After a stringent background check and of course a rigorous, comprehensive training course led by a law enforcement instructor.

Also don't just shout "herrrr derrr we need gun control" and make a broad sweeping demand. Say what it is you want. If you want a full on ban of firearms and a Nationwide confiscation, then grow a pair and say that. I think you'll quickly learn just how unpopular that idea is, however.

Because to cowards that think that violence against innocent people is the solution to their problem, schools are unfortunately easy targets.
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I use to go to a private school. The kids are mostly the same. I think it's just that private schools are better at covering up...
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party_animal07 posted...

There's a high concentration of angst. Teenagers can be shit asses, but there's a ton of social pressure on them sometimes (both inside and outside of school) and unfortunately it creates time bombs.

Sometimes they self implode (commit suicide) sometimes they lash out at others (bullying) and in some cases they just want to cause as much damage as possible (killing those around them) because they're numb to the world.

At least that's my theory.

Id say you have a future in psychology.
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Jen0125 posted...

ZiggiStardust posted...

Jen0125 posted...

schools aren't "always" the target. nightclubs, outdoor concert venues, arenas, schools, movie theaters, malls, workplaces... everywhere is a target.

well sure, but schools are a much more common target, ok?

everywhere has been shot up, but schools just get it way more than anywhere else it seems, ok?

most of the time it's student vs student. i can't think of the last mass shooting against students that wasn't perpetrated by a student who is in the school or recently graduated from that school.

and that happens because teenagers don't have the most rational thinking or the best emotional control.

sandy hook?

dude was 20, and he did go to that school but for only for lke 4 or 5 years
when he was like 9-14
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helIy posted...

Jen0125 posted...

ZiggiStardust posted...

Jen0125 posted...

schools aren't "always" the target. nightclubs, outdoor concert venues, arenas, schools, movie theaters, malls, workplaces... everywhere is a target.

well sure, but schools are a much more common target, ok?

everywhere has been shot up, but schools just get it way more than anywhere else it seems, ok?

most of the time it's student vs student. i can't think of the last mass shooting against students that wasn't perpetrated by a student who is in the school or recently graduated from that school.

and that happens because teenagers don't have the most rational thinking or the best emotional control.

sandy hook?

dude was 20, and he did go to that school but for only for lke 4 or 5 years
when he was like 9-14

You named one. I didn't say all, I said most. But that probably is the most recent one I can remember.
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ZiggiStardust posted...

Jen0125 posted...

schools aren't "always" the target. nightclubs, outdoor concert venues, arenas, schools, movie theaters, malls, workplaces... everywhere is a target.

well sure, but schools are a much more common target, ok?

everywhere has been shot up, but schools just get it way more than anywhere else it seems, ok?

School are just more reported.
No one is going to pay attention to a multiple shooting in a low income neighborhood or city block. Which is where they're most common.

Because shooters know theyll be the only person armed and they can inflict the most suffering before theyre stopped
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Usually the victims of bullying and probably associate allot of that with schools which can't seem to do anything about it until the victim lashes out.