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Funbazooka
02/21/18 6:24:43 PM
#51:


ThanksUglyGod posted...
r4X0r posted...
You do not get to commit acts of violence against people just because you don't like their ideology. That's... what Nazis do, ironically.

There's a difference between having a disagreeable ideology and having the worst ideology.

Freedom of speech protects unpopular speech. That's the whole point.
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9I
02/21/18 6:25:39 PM
#52:


Very_Unreliable posted...
9I posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
9I posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
9I posted...
Very_Unreliable got hit a few times sprouting his ideology it seems


And there we go, just dismiss the whole argument.

Leftists are idiots.

...and Nazi's aren't??


LOL I didn't say that. I spent the whole thread saying it was a stupid opinion....

You're not only politically left, you're left on the bellcurve as well.

you're sympathizing with the Nazi's


I'm sympathizing with the nazi's what? The nazi's pharmacist?

the Nazi Ideals
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 6:27:14 PM
#53:


dolomedes posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
"nazi" (and I can't stress the quotations hard enough)

dude is wearing a no-shit third-reich nazi armband

It's very hard to put an armband on, you have to go to nazi training for years to do it. Surely you couldn't just buy one and slide it on like a weird NEET would...

*meanwhile near the javitz center*
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gbpxl
02/21/18 6:29:24 PM
#54:


Absolutely not.
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prettyprincess
02/21/18 6:29:25 PM
#55:


presenting as a nazi is an act of violence
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Funkydog
02/21/18 6:29:25 PM
#56:


Funbazooka posted...
Freedom of speech protects unpopular speech. That's the whole point.

I mean, Nazism is a bit more than "unpopular speech"

Any ideology that calls for the dehumanisation of any people and for their genocide is repugnant beyond all else.
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ThanksUglyGod
02/21/18 6:29:34 PM
#57:


Funbazooka posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
r4X0r posted...
You do not get to commit acts of violence against people just because you don't like their ideology. That's... what Nazis do, ironically.

There's a difference between having a disagreeable ideology and having the worst ideology.

Freedom of speech protects unpopular speech. That's the whole point.

Yeah, from the government. Not from how private citizens react to it.

Not saying I advocate people punching Nazis, but I'm not a cop, so if I see it happen I'll look the other way.
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 6:29:53 PM
#58:


How can you sit there and watch that guy back down and become scared ****less, and still get completely knocked out and left lying on the concrete for being a vocal idiot. He's someone's son.
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 6:30:31 PM
#59:


prettyprincess posted...
presenting as a nazi is an act of violence

No it isn't; we don't get to define terms as we wish. Sorry.
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Darmik
02/21/18 6:30:42 PM
#60:


Very_Unreliable posted...
Because one of them didn't commit an act of violence and the other did.


One spends his life affiliating himself with a hate group who has done atrocious things in history and the other guy got offended and hit him.

You also do not know what this guy has done to minorities outside of that video/gif. If he's extreme enough to be in public wearing a Nazi armband I really wouldn't presume he's a peaceful guy.
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Mander1861
02/21/18 6:31:13 PM
#61:


Very_Unreliable posted...
How can you sit there and watch that guy back down and become scared ****less, and still get completely knocked out and left lying on the concrete for being a vocal idiot. He's someone's son.


What a stupid argument
I watched it repeatedly and enjoyed it thoroughly 10/10
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MrK3V
02/21/18 6:31:26 PM
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MrK3V
02/21/18 6:32:03 PM
#64:


-Gavirulax- posted...
Not reading all this.

No, uncalled violence is never okay.
Debate with words, in that case it was cowardly and showed a lack of emotional control.

lol
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prettyprincess
02/21/18 6:32:04 PM
#65:


Very_Unreliable posted...
we don't get to define terms as we wish. Sorry

that's like all of language
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Funbazooka
02/21/18 6:32:52 PM
#66:


Funkydog posted...
Funbazooka posted...
Freedom of speech protects unpopular speech. That's the whole point.

I mean, Nazism is a bit more than "unpopular speech"

Any ideology that calls for the dehumanisation of any people and for their genocide is repugnant beyond all else.

Of course it's more but unless they're harming killing people and being unlawful I mean... what you're left with then is unpopular speech they have a right to, at least in the U.S.
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Funkydog
02/21/18 6:33:03 PM
#67:


-Gavirulax- posted...
Not reading all this.

No, uncalled violence is never okay.
Debate with words, in that case it was cowardly and showed a lack of emotional control.

I mean, how far does someone need to go with the ideology that genocide is a desirable thing to do, before it becomes okay to take action beyond debating them?
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VectorChaos
02/21/18 6:33:51 PM
#68:


Responding to words and thoughts you don't like with violence isn't ok.

If you want it to be ok, then let's declare open season on any violent ideology so I can watch all of CE's communists and Islam apologists experience the equality and devolve into an unintelligible rage as a result
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gbpxl
02/21/18 6:34:13 PM
#69:


What the guy should have done is challenge him to a boxing match at a gym and get a legal waiver if he wanted to punch him. What this guy did was classless and animalistic. It's hard to make a guy wearing a swastika look good but he managed to succeed.
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Funkydog
02/21/18 6:35:32 PM
#70:


Funbazooka posted...
Of course it's more but unless they're harming killing people and being unlawful I mean... what you're left with then is unpopular speech they have a right to, at least in the U.S.

Yeah, I was probably just being a bit more pedantic than I needed to be over the wording of "unpopular speech" I admit.
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MrK3V
02/21/18 6:35:33 PM
#71:


love how the nazi was like

"come at me"

then he was like

"oh shit hes coming at me"

And then....

TiLGa04
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Zodd3224
02/21/18 6:35:59 PM
#72:


Very_Unreliable posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
Sick of these virtue signaling thugs. He didn't accomplish anything by hitting him.


i mean the nazi won't be spreading nazism if he's knocked out


Nope now he's a martyr. You know that.

If I just heard the talking; I'd feel contempt only for the nazi; now I feel more contempt for the violent thug who hit him because it was a socially excusable chance for him to hit someone. He wasn't incensed by the nazism, he nor presumably any of his family were interned by nazis, he just wanted to hit someone. Now I hate the guy for hitting him, more.


This is strange way to think. And I dont think punching people is okay, but I cant fathom hating someone who punched someone more than a Nazi.
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 6:36:14 PM
#73:


prettyprincess posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
we don't get to define terms as we wish. Sorry

that's like all of language


No it isn't. We use words for real concepts, conflating concepts to fit your argument is wrong. An act of violence is not saying s*** other people don't like... You know that, and the reason I know that you know that; is that you said what you'd said as if it were not common knowledge, you said it matter of factly, which means you know how people agree an act of violence is defined. You're incapable of constructing an argument, you enjoy seeing violence used against people who disagree with you or people you don't like so you justified the behavior in the gif. That's all. You can leave now.
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Darmik
02/21/18 6:36:14 PM
#74:


gbpxl posted...
What the guy should have done is challenge him to a boxing match at a gym and get a legal waiver if he wanted to punch him. What this guy did was classless and animalistic. It's hard to make a guy wearing a swastika look good but he managed to succeed.


He should have demanded him to put up his dukes so it would be a fair fight and not a sucker punch.
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Funbazooka
02/21/18 6:37:24 PM
#75:


It's not only freedom of speech either it's their freedom of association (right to assemble) with other Neo-nazis if they feel like it. They're likely to be infiltrated by undercover FBI agents of course.
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SciFi
02/21/18 6:37:43 PM
#76:


Darmik posted...
gbpxl posted...
What the guy should have done is challenge him to a boxing match at a gym and get a legal waiver if he wanted to punch him. What this guy did was classless and animalistic. It's hard to make a guy wearing a swastika look good but he managed to succeed.


He should have demanded him to put up his dukes so it would be a fair fight and not a sucker punch.

It wasn't a sucker punch, the dude did a taunt, Nazi continued BSing, and then got punched
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 6:38:16 PM
#77:


MrK3V posted...
love how the nazi was like

"come at me"

then he was like

"oh shit hes coming at me"

And then....


He didn't say come at me.
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prettyprincess
02/21/18 6:38:51 PM
#78:


Very_Unreliable posted...
An act of violence is not saying s*** other people don't like

it is if you are speaking/presenting in active alignment to those who commit genocide
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Paper_Okami
02/21/18 6:39:21 PM
#79:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC1X1NXRqiY
better version

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNXkQGPAM48

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MrK3V
02/21/18 6:40:34 PM
#80:


Very_Unreliable posted...
MrK3V posted...
love how the nazi was like

"come at me"

then he was like

"oh shit hes coming at me"

And then....


He didn't say come at me.


look at his hand movements lad
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TheGrindery
02/21/18 6:41:13 PM
#81:


r4X0r posted...
You do not get to commit acts of violence against people just because you don't like their ideology. That's... what Nazis do, ironically.

LOL @ This actually having to be said.
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Mander1861
02/21/18 6:41:49 PM
#83:


Paper_Okami posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC1X1NXRqiY
better version

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNXkQGPAM48


Lmao love it that first video was gold
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 6:42:20 PM
#84:


prettyprincess posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
An act of violence is not saying s*** other people don't like

it is if you are speaking/presenting in active alignment to those who committed genocide


He is not a member of the National socialist German workers party of the 1930s and 40s. He is a seattelite weirdo who was being stupid. Once again; you don't get to pick and choose which of the things I've said to represent my alignment, I've condemned nazi ideology several times. You're incapable of constructing an argument and need to leave.
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SciFi
02/21/18 6:42:59 PM
#85:


Mander1861 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC1X1NXRqiY
better version

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNXkQGPAM48


Lmao love it that first video was gold

wtf was the 2nd one though
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CommonStar
02/21/18 6:43:12 PM
#86:


lol violence is never the answer.

sometimes you just need to get hit to learn a life lesson. that shit might be ok to spout on the internet, but maybe getting hit for spouting it outside means you should probably keep it to yourself.

not saying everyone deserves to get hit, but some people sometimes do and in this case, always punch a nazi.
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MrK3V
02/21/18 6:43:33 PM
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Mander1861
02/21/18 6:43:47 PM
#88:


SciFi posted...
Mander1861 posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC1X1NXRqiY
better version

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNXkQGPAM48


Lmao love it that first video was gold

wtf was the 2nd one though


Some pussy who cant punch tying to hit that white supremacy loser
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 6:43:54 PM
#89:


MrK3V posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
MrK3V posted...
love how the nazi was like

"come at me"

then he was like

"oh shit hes coming at me"

And then....


He didn't say come at me.


look at his hand movements lad

WATCH THE ACTUAL VIDEO....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCVtB5jlEbk


I hope the sound helps. Maybe the hand gestures without sound are misleading...
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prettyprincess
02/21/18 6:44:06 PM
#90:


Very_Unreliable posted...
you don't get to pick and choose which of the things I've said to represent my alignment

why did you do that then??

Very_Unreliable posted...
You know that, and the reason I know that you know that

Very_Unreliable posted...
you enjoy seeing violence used against people who disagree with you or people you don't like so you justified the behavior in the gif. That's all.

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Funbazooka
02/21/18 6:46:05 PM
#92:


MrK3V posted...
love all the nazi sympathizers here. Makes me feel warm.

K5sfuOw
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 6:46:23 PM
#93:


prettyprincess posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
you don't get to pick and choose which of the things I've said to represent my alignment

why did you do that then??

Very_Unreliable posted...
You know that, and the reason I know that you know that

Very_Unreliable posted...
you enjoy seeing violence used against people who disagree with you or people you don't like so you justified the behavior in the gif. That's all.


That doesn't even make sense. You've been put on the ignore list. Count yourself among the few to annoy me enough to have to do that.
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prettyprincess
02/21/18 6:48:43 PM
#94:


damn, couldn't hang
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Darmik
02/21/18 6:51:04 PM
#96:


A couple of the posters here are also 'crisis actor' believers.

Hmm...
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SciFi
02/21/18 6:51:26 PM
#97:


Very_Unreliable posted...
prettyprincess posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
you don't get to pick and choose which of the things I've said to represent my alignment

why did you do that then??

Very_Unreliable posted...
You know that, and the reason I know that you know that

Very_Unreliable posted...
you enjoy seeing violence used against people who disagree with you or people you don't like so you justified the behavior in the gif. That's all.


That doesn't even make sense. You've been put on the ignore list. Count yourself among the few to annoy me enough to have to do that.

You know you've lost when you resort to the Ignore list lmao
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Mander1861
02/21/18 6:51:53 PM
#98:


Darmik posted...
A couple of the posters here are also 'crisis actor' believers.

Hmm...


lol
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Very_Unreliable
02/21/18 6:53:31 PM
#99:


SciFi posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
prettyprincess posted...
Very_Unreliable posted...
you don't get to pick and choose which of the things I've said to represent my alignment

why did you do that then??

Very_Unreliable posted...
You know that, and the reason I know that you know that

Very_Unreliable posted...
you enjoy seeing violence used against people who disagree with you or people you don't like so you justified the behavior in the gif. That's all.


That doesn't even make sense. You've been put on the ignore list. Count yourself among the few to annoy me enough to have to do that.

You know you've lost when you resort to the Ignore list lmao

Nope it is as I've said; his arguments didn't make sense and were constructed to incite so I've ignored.
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hockeybub89
02/21/18 6:54:19 PM
#100:


I think people should get an assault charge for doing it, but I can't say I weep for the Nazi jackass who gets clocked.
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