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Airhammy
02/21/18 10:19:49 PM
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http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/02/21/south-whittier-school-shooting-plot/

An alleged shooting plot at a high school in South Whittier, CA was thwarted last week and a student and his brother have been arrested after a stash of weapons and ammo were found in their home, the Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department reports.

A 17-year-old boy was overheard by a school resource officer following a lunch break Friday threatening to shoot up El Camino High School sometime in the next three weeks Sheriff Jim McDonnell said at a news conference Wednesday.

The officer who heard the threat, Marino Chavez, contacted deputies, who began an investigation which lead them to the suspects Norwalk home, where they found two AR-15 rifles, two handguns and 90 high-capacity military-grade magazines.

He (the suspect) did say that he was just kidding, that he did not mean it, Chavez said. I said, well, you cant say those things on campus.

Im not a hero, just doing my job every day, Chavez told reporters.

Officials said the threat had followed a disagreement between the suspect and a teacher over his headphones, which are not allowed during class.

When asked by reporters whether the threat of a shooting appeared real, McDonnell answered, The indications were, he was moving in that direction.

We found ammo in the kids room, loaded magazines, Deputy Martin Maciel told reporters. One of the weapons we recovered from the hallway, it was unsecured, it had no lock, and there were two loaded magazines right next to it. The other weapons were found in the garage did not have a door and was not secured.

The suspects 28-year-old brother, Daniel Barcenas, an Army veteran, told deputies that the guns were his. One of the two rifles was unregistered, McDonnell said.

The teen suspect, who was not named, was arrested Friday for making criminal threats. McDonnell said the boy had an extensive discipline history at the school.

His brother, Barcenas, was arrested Tuesday night on multiple charges, including possession of an assault weapon, import of high-capacity magazines, criminal storage of firearms, failure to register a personal handgun and possession of an assault weapon and a thumbhole stock.

The two brothers lived at the home with their parents. Its unclear whether the parents knew about the weapons, Maciel disclosed. The investigation is ongoing.

The weapons were readily available, McDonnell added.


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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 10:20:18 PM
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how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?
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BlueBoy675
02/21/18 10:21:58 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?

They belonged to his 28 year old brother
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Zack_Attackv1
02/21/18 10:22:22 PM
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r4X0r
02/21/18 10:23:11 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?

They belonged to his 28 year old brother


How'd the brother get them? Those rifles and those mags are all super illegal in the state of California. I thought gun control meant the evil scary stuff disappeared?
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MabusIncarnate
02/21/18 10:25:24 PM
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Stupid kids are going to learn real fast that the "I was kidding" or "That was a joke" isn't going to fly and they are going to fuck their lives up for a long time as a result. I have zero sympathy, i'd rather stop it based on "jokes" or "false threats" then wait and see what happens.

In these scenarios, you never really know if they are going to go through with it, but if they plan on saying it in public or on social media, prepare for it to be taken as a serious terrorist threat.
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NINExATExSEVEN
02/21/18 10:25:47 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?

They belonged to his 28 year old brother


Kids these days do not noe de wae. De wae of peace and enlightenment.
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 10:31:22 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?

They belonged to his 28 year old brother

then i say give the 28 year old brother some sort of punishment if his 17 year old bro was able to take them and commit a mass shooting. be responsible with your gun. don't let minors have access to them. if they can break into and steal THAT type of ammunition you're doing something wrong...
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BlueBoy675
02/21/18 10:34:14 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?

They belonged to his 28 year old brother

then i say give the 28 year old brother some sort of punishment if his 17 year old bro was able to take them and commit a mass shooting. be responsible with your gun. don't let minors have access to them. if they can break into and steal THAT type of ammunition you're doing something wrong...

Agreed
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MabusIncarnate
02/21/18 10:36:17 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?

They belonged to his 28 year old brother

then i say give the 28 year old brother some sort of punishment if his 17 year old bro was able to take them and commit a mass shooting. be responsible with your gun. don't let minors have access to them. if they can break into and steal THAT type of ammunition you're doing something wrong...

If one rifle was unregistered, he's already going to be in a world of shit over this honestly. That's a pretty serious offense to own an unregistered firearm of any kind.
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Cookie Bag
02/21/18 10:36:32 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?

They belonged to his 28 year old brother

then i say give the 28 year old brother some sort of punishment if his 17 year old bro was able to take them and commit a mass shooting. be responsible with your gun. don't let minors have access to them. if they can break into and steal THAT type of ammunition you're doing something wrong...

Airhammy posted...
His brother, Barcenas, was arrested Tuesday night on multiple charges, including possession of an assault weapon, import of high-capacity magazines, criminal storage of firearms, failure to register a personal handgun and possession of an assault weapon and a thumbhole stock.

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Malcrasternus
02/21/18 10:38:34 PM
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If those are full capacity mags, those are banned in California. I'm also not seeing a bullet button, which is required in California if you have a detachable magazine.

How the hell did he get that under the radar?

Ah, ninja'd by CBag.
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Eat More Beef
02/21/18 10:38:45 PM
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BlueBoy675 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?

They belonged to his 28 year old brother

then i say give the 28 year old brother some sort of punishment if his 17 year old bro was able to take them and commit a mass shooting. be responsible with your gun. don't let minors have access to them. if they can break into and steal THAT type of ammunition you're doing something wrong...

Agreed


Yeah. I thought that shit had to be in seperate lock boxes and shit.

Fuck. This annoys me though. What the sweet hell is wrong with these people that they want to try to kill so many people.

Go join the military. Get a couple confirmed kills. Be fucked up about it. Cone back with thr violence outta you.
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 10:39:04 PM
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Cookie Bag posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
BlueBoy675 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
how does a 17 year old have access to THAT kind or arsenal?

They belonged to his 28 year old brother

then i say give the 28 year old brother some sort of punishment if his 17 year old bro was able to take them and commit a mass shooting. be responsible with your gun. don't let minors have access to them. if they can break into and steal THAT type of ammunition you're doing something wrong...

Airhammy posted...
His brother, Barcenas, was arrested Tuesday night on multiple charges, including possession of an assault weapon, import of high-capacity magazines, criminal storage of firearms, failure to register a personal handgun and possession of an assault weapon and a thumbhole stock.

?

that's great and i'm glad. but it has more to do with the legality of what he owned more so than the negligence of his brother potentially gaining access to them...Negligence like that should come with a punishment to help crack down on people who are loose with their weapons IMO.
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Malcrasternus
02/21/18 10:40:51 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
that's great and i'm glad. but it has more to do with the legality of what he owned more so than the negligence of his brother potentially gaining access to them...Negligence like that should come with a punishment to help crack down on people who are loose with their weapons IMO.


It's called enforcing the laws we have now, not throwing more bullshit do-nothing legislation into the pot.
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littlebro07
02/21/18 10:42:41 PM
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Two kids were busted planning to shoot up a high school here in Nebraska the other day. For some reason they were released to the custody of their parents. Then last night another threat was made so the entire school district was closed today.
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 10:42:52 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
that's great and i'm glad. but it has more to do with the legality of what he owned more so than the negligence of his brother potentially gaining access to them...Negligence like that should come with a punishment to help crack down on people who are loose with their weapons IMO.


It's called enforcing the laws we have now, not throwing more bullshit do-nothing legislation into the pot.

how is that a bullshit do-nothing law? holding gun owners accountable in an attempt to prevent their guns from getting in the wrong hands is "do-nothing legislation"?
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Malcrasternus
02/21/18 10:45:39 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...

how is that a bullshit do-nothing law? holding gun owners accountable in an attempt to prevent their guns from getting in the wrong hands is "do-nothing legislation"?


Point out what specific law I'm talking about.

You can't, because I didn't.
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 10:47:05 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...

how is that a bullshit do-nothing law? holding gun owners accountable in an attempt to prevent their guns from getting in the wrong hands is "do-nothing legislation"?


Point out what specific law I'm talking about.

You can't, because I didn't.

so educate me.
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BlueScum
02/21/18 10:49:51 PM
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There are threats being made towards schools in mine and two neighboring counties. I hope they catch the little rat bastards who are responsible and give them hell.
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r4X0r
02/21/18 10:51:35 PM
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I have to laugh at the people saying "Well punish the brother for allowing access to the weapons!!" Dude had a PILE of illegal firearms and magazines. He's already going away for a long ass time.
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Malcrasternus
02/21/18 10:56:07 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
so educate me.


There's nothing to educate you on. After your "Thoughts and Prayers" shitposting just hours after the shooting, you've made your stance, and maturity level clear, and I'm not going to give you any more of my time.
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 10:59:07 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
so educate me.


There's nothing to educate you on. After your "Thoughts and Prayers" shitposting just hours after the shooting, you've made your stance, and maturity level clear, and I'm not going to give you any more of my time.

so you have no response to my suggestion and you're going to use that play the moral high ground? ok cool....thanks for not wasting my time....
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Malcrasternus
02/21/18 11:08:36 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...

so you have no response to my suggestion and you're going to use that play the moral high ground? ok cool....thanks for not wasting my time....


Thoughts and prayers for Vipa to someday get comprehension skills.

I wasn't talking about your suggestions. I was talking about how this guy was hit by laws already in place and were finally enforced. I don't care about your suggestions, and I don't care about the apparently precious little time you have to troll with a shooting on a message board.

There's no moral high ground here. It's called being a decent human being, and not using a mass murder to mock another poster.

Fucking disgusting.
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TheVipaGTS
02/21/18 11:50:41 PM
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Malcrasternus posted...
It's called being a decent human being, and not using a mass murder to mock another poster.

i'm not mocking anyone. i'm glad the laws we have in place for illegal weapons is being used to bring this man to justice. I love that...I'm suggesting something else. that people, even with legal guns, get an additional punishment for negligence. I admit its not an issue in this case and i apologize for implying that. i was in the wrong. I still feel like my suggestion still stands overall and i don't understand why you're so upset about it...
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FFVII_REMAKE
02/21/18 11:55:20 PM
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How would stricter gun laws apply to those who obtain them illegally?
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