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Veggeta_MAX 02/22/18 4:47:52 PM #1:	Or other hardware costs. People strictly only count the tower and the shit that goes in it. And that's why a gaming PC will never cost only 500 dollars. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:896577759] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote>Or other hardware costs. People strictly only count the tower and the shit that goes in it. And that's why a gaming PC will never cost only 500 dollars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 02/22/18 4:56:42 PM #2:	When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example. you can transfer the OS from your old PC to a new one so it's not necessarily a required purchase. again, bad example. there is no discussion here. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:896578306] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example. you can transfer the OS from your old PC to a new one so it's not necessarily a required purchase. again, bad example. there is no discussion here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterGod469 02/22/18 4:58:17 PM #3:	Giant_Aspirin posted... When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor. and transfer OS from what old computer? <cite>WaterGod469 posted [p:896578414] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example</quote> Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor. and transfer OS from what old computer?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/22/18 4:58:48 PM #4:	Giant_Aspirin posted... When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example. Of course you do but it's much safer to assume you already have prerequisites for consoles however not for PC gaming. Even without a console you'd still have a nice TV for other reasons. You wouldn't have a PC monitor for any other reason other than for PCing. Giant_Aspirin posted... you can transfer the OS from your old PC to a new one so it's not necessarily a required purchase. again, bad example. So you're still using XP? --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:896578438] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example.</quote> Of course you do but it's much safer to assume you already have prerequisites for consoles however not for PC gaming. Even without a console you'd still have a nice TV for other reasons. You wouldn't have a PC monitor for any other reason other than for PCing. <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>you can transfer the OS from your old PC to a new one so it's not necessarily a required purchase. again, bad example.</quote> So you're still using XP?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 02/22/18 4:59:04 PM #5:	WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor. but you can connect your PC to a TV --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:896578451] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example</quote> Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor.</quote> but you can connect your PC to a TV</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
megamanfreakXD 02/22/18 4:59:16 PM #6:	WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor. And for some reason people can't use the TV as a PC monitor. cool --- https://i.imgur.com/tzhGHNu.gif <cite>megamanfreakXD posted [p:896578466] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example</quote> Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor.</quote> And for some reason people can't use the TV as a PC monitor. cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 02/22/18 5:00:42 PM #7:	Veggeta_MAX posted... So you're still using XP? no. but i dont understand how that's relevant to anything --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:896578570] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>So you're still using XP?</quote> no. but i dont understand how that's relevant to anything</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 02/22/18 5:02:26 PM #8:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Of course you do but it's much safer to assume you already have prerequisites for consoles however not for PC gaming. Even without a console you'd still have a nice TV for other reasons. You wouldn't have a PC monitor for any other reason other than for PCing. 1) you can connect PCs to TVs since HDMI was a thing 2) you can re-use an old monitor if you have one. assuming that both a monitor and OS are required purchases when building a gaming PC is just not correct. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:896578678] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote> Of course you do but it's much safer to assume you already have prerequisites for consoles however not for PC gaming. Even without a console you'd still have a nice TV for other reasons. You wouldn't have a PC monitor for any other reason other than for PCing.</quote> 1) you can connect PCs to TVs since HDMI was a thing 2) you can re-use an old monitor if you have one. assuming that both a monitor and OS are required purchases when building a gaming PC is just not correct.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterGod469 02/22/18 5:02:27 PM #9:	Giant_Aspirin posted... WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor. but you can connect your PC to a TV +$50 for the gamepad that I now need. <cite>WaterGod469 posted [p:896578684] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example</quote> Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor.</quote> but you can connect your PC to a TV</quote> +$50 for the gamepad that I now need.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 02/22/18 5:03:44 PM #10:	WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor. but you can connect your PC to a TV +$50 for the gamepad that I now need. need? nope. you can use whatever keyboard and mouse you were using before. there is no rule that dictates you can only have your PC connected to a TV if a gamepad is involved. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:896578767] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example</quote> Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor.</quote> but you can connect your PC to a TV</quote> +$50 for the gamepad that I now need.</quote> need? nope. you can use whatever keyboard and mouse you were using before. there is no rule that dictates you can only have your PC connected to a TV if a gamepad is involved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterGod469 02/22/18 5:05:10 PM #11:	Giant_Aspirin posted... WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor. but you can connect your PC to a TV +$50 for the gamepad that I now need. need? nope. you can use whatever keyboard and mouse you were using before. A big TV + a keyboard and mouse is not a viable set up. <cite>WaterGod469 posted [p:896578842] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example</quote> Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor.</quote> but you can connect your PC to a TV</quote> +$50 for the gamepad that I now need.</quote> need? nope. you can use whatever keyboard and mouse you were using before.</quote> A big TV + a keyboard and mouse is not a viable set up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta_MAX 02/22/18 5:05:26 PM #12:	Funny how people are building a new PC gaming computer from scratch but already have everything for it. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt <cite>Veggeta_MAX posted [p:896578859] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote>Funny how people are building a new PC gaming computer from scratch but already have everything for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 02/22/18 5:07:09 PM #13:	WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor. but you can connect your PC to a TV +$50 for the gamepad that I now need. need? nope. you can use whatever keyboard and mouse you were using before. A big TV + a keyboard and mouse is not a viable set up. it's what i use at home every single day. it works just fine for me. FWIW i also have a gamepad and use that for games that i prefer a controller on, while kb+m on games where i prefer that. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:896578978] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example</quote> Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor.</quote> but you can connect your PC to a TV</quote> +$50 for the gamepad that I now need.</quote> need? nope. you can use whatever keyboard and mouse you were using before.</quote> A big TV + a keyboard and mouse is not a viable set up.</quote> it's what i use at home every single day. it works just fine for me. FWIW i also have a gamepad and use that for games that i prefer a controller on, while kb+m on games where i prefer that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 02/22/18 5:08:48 PM #14:	Veggeta_MAX posted... Funny how people are building a new PC gaming computer from scratch but already have everything for it. 1) you never mentioned "from scratch" until this post 2) if it's fair to include a TV set as "part of the house" when considering a console it's only fair to also consider that for a PC as well 3) if you are going to insist on the "from scratch" clause that didn't appear until just now then sure, the OS should be factored into the cost to be fair and transparent, sure. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC), Hollow Knight (PC) *(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)* <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:896579065] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta_MAX posted...</cite> <quote>Funny how people are building a new PC gaming computer from scratch but already have everything for it.</quote> 1) you never mentioned "from scratch" until this post 2) if it's fair to include a TV set as "part of the house" when considering a console it's only fair to also consider that for a PC as well 3) if you are going to insist on the "from scratch" clause that didn't appear until just now then sure, the OS should be factored into the cost to be fair and transparent, sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 02/22/18 5:09:24 PM #15:	WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... WaterGod469 posted... Giant_Aspirin posted... When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor. but you can connect your PC to a TV +$50 for the gamepad that I now need. need? nope. you can use whatever keyboard and mouse you were using before. A big TV + a keyboard and mouse is not a viable set up. If you have a PS4, Xbox One or PS3 you can use those controllers. If your computer supports Bluetooth you can also use Wii, Wii U and Switch controllers. Not sure why you can't use a KB&M on a TV though. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:896579094] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterGod469 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Giant_Aspirin posted...</cite> <quote>When buying a console do you consider the TV as part of the price? of course not. bad example</quote> Most people have a TV in their home for other purposes though, unlike a PC monitor.</quote> but you can connect your PC to a TV</quote> +$50 for the gamepad that I now need.</quote> need? nope. you can use whatever keyboard and mouse you were using before.</quote> A big TV + a keyboard and mouse is not a viable set up.</quote> If you have a PS4, Xbox One or PS3 you can use those controllers. If your computer supports Bluetooth you can also use Wii, Wii U and Switch controllers. Not sure why you can't use a KB&M on a TV though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 02/22/18 5:17:45 PM #16:	it's the same reason why peasants never mention the cost of online when factoring in console costs. "oh but i dun like online games". well congrats, you just killed like 50% of your available library. --- http://abload.de/img/pcgamingxtuvt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:896579596] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote>it's the same reason why peasants never mention the cost of online when factoring in console costs. "oh but i dun like online games". well congrats, you just killed like 50% of your available library.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 02/22/18 5:21:00 PM #17:	It doesn't matter anymore. PC gaming above mid-high is not really gonna be affordable due to cryptos for at least 3-5 years. Price discussions are kind of pointless. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:896579801] in When build... [t:76346937]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't matter anymore. PC gaming above mid-high is not really gonna be affordable due to cryptos for at least 3-5 years. Price discussions are kind of pointless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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