Current Events > Why are people so against the ban on Assault Rifles?

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1. It's almost impossible to implement.

2. Even if it was implemented, it wouldn't work unless people were forced to turn their Semi Auto Rifles in.

3. Even if law abideing citizens did turn in their semi auto rifles, it still wouldn't do anything because there are so many AR-15's and other semi auto rifles in the country that they'd all just get moved to the black market.

Truth be told, I long for a time where we used lever action rifles and six shooters cause they're just so much more stylish. But it will never happen because they over produced semi auto rifles after the 1994 ban lifted.
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DepreceV2 posted...

Gun rights have been changing because guns have change significantly since 1918.

theyre lighter and can hold more ammo. thats about it. the concept of the firearm has remained largely unchanged since the 1800's.
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People forget there is federal regulation of certain firearms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_II_weapons

Title II of the Gun Control Act of 1968 is a revision of the National Firearms Act of 1934, and pertains to machine guns, short or "sawed-off" shotguns and rifles, and so-called "destructive devices" (including grenades, mortars, rocket launchers, large projectiles, and other heavy ordnance). Acquisition of these weapons is subject to prior approval of the Attorney General, and federal registration is required for possession. Generally, a $200 tax is imposed upon each transfer or making of any Title II weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

The National Firearms Act (NFA), 73rd Congress, Sess. 2, ch. 757, 48 Stat. 1236, enacted on June 26, 1934, currently codified as amended as I.R.C. ch. 53, is an Act of Congress in the United States that, in general, imposes a statutory excise tax on the manufacture and transfer of certain firearms and mandates the registration of those firearms. The Act was passed shortly after the repeal of Prohibition. The NFA is also referred to as Title II of the Federal firearms laws. The Gun Control Act of 1968 ("GCA") is Title I.

All transfers of ownership of registered NFA firearms must be done through the federal NFA registry. The NFA also requires that permanent transport of NFA firearms across state lines by the owner must be reported to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Temporary transport of some items, most notably suppressors, do not need to be reported.

Machine guns
This includes any firearm which can fire more than 1 cartridge per trigger pull. Both continuous fully automatic fire and "burst fire" (e.g., firearms with a 3-round burst feature) are considered machine gun features. The weapon's receiver is by itself considered to be a regulated firearm. A non-machinegun that may be converted to fire more than one shot per trigger pull by ordinary mechanical skills is determined to be "readily convertible", and classed as a machine gun, such as a KG-9 pistol (pre-ban ones are "grandfathered").
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Dark_Spiret posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

Gun rights have been changing because guns have change significantly since 1918.

theyre lighter and can hold more ammo. thats about it. the concept of the firearm has remained largely unchanged since the 1800's.

And they fire more rapidly. And they cause more internal damage (terminal ballistics). And they're faster velocity. And they fire longer range. And they reload faster. And they're more accurate. But yeah they're just lighter or something.
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ChainedRedone posted...

Dark_Spiret posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

Gun rights have been changing because guns have change significantly since 1918.

theyre lighter and can hold more ammo. thats about it. the concept of the firearm has remained largely unchanged since the 1800's.

And they fire more rapidly. And they cause more internal damage (terminal ballistics). And they're faster velocity. And they fire longer range. And they reload faster. And they're more accurate. But yeah they're just lighter or something.

The only one of those that's actually true is firing more rapidly, and it's not an absolute either.

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

Dark_Spiret posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

Gun rights have been changing because guns have change significantly since 1918.

theyre lighter and can hold more ammo. thats about it. the concept of the firearm has remained largely unchanged since the 1800's.

And they fire more rapidly. And they cause more internal damage (terminal ballistics). And they're faster velocity. And they fire longer range. And they reload faster. And they're more accurate. But yeah they're just lighter or something.

The only one of those that's actually true is firing more rapidly, and it's not an absolute either.

Imagine posting this unironically.
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Old timey musket rifles were devastating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0AxKGRKY3g
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To put it in perspective, this is like saying don't ban a honda civic, but ban a honda civic with a body kit installed because it makes it look faster.

An AR is virtually a hunting rifle with parts that make it look different and cooler. It still functions exactly the same.
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Funbazooka posted...

Old timey musket rifles were devastating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0AxKGRKY3g

You're seriously comparing them to modern day rifles and ammo? Lol...
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.58 in. caliber musket:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1861



From left: .50 BMG, .300 Win Mag, .308 Winchester, 7.6239mm, 5.5645mm NATO, .22LR

And pictured here is a .75 caliber ball used with flintlock muskets vs a 9mm.



The whole ball is the projectile. The actual bullet of the 9mm is just the top part, the long part is just the casing.

One's gonna tear a bigger nastier hole through your body.
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So as far as saying all modern guns cause more internal damage just because they're more advanced in other aspects... probably not. Modern bullets and a myriad of other things are an advancement over the musket ball (no shit) but you get the picture.
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"Assault weapons" are semi-automatic rifles that look particularly scary to hoplophobes such as Diane Feinstein, so what's the point in even banning them to start with?
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Assault rifles are banned. Try being informed before having opinions.

Oh excuse me. I though semi-automatic Rifles that are magazine feed count as Assault Rifles. Let's change that. What not ban AR type of Rifles? Or are you going to correct me again and ignore the real question I was asking?

It's kind of important to distinguish between an extremely function-altering feature, yes. It's not semantics, it completely changes the discussion.

Everyone is fucking Neo nowadays. Why are questions so scary to people lately?
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Darmik posted...

I don't see why civilians should have any gun that could spew out over 60 bullets in under a minute tbh

Then don't buy one. Problem solved.
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Assault rifles are banned. Try being informed before having opinions.

They won't. They need an agenda to push.
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Paragon21XX posted...

hoplophobes

Well... I learned a new word today.