Current Events > The armed security guard in Parkland stayed outside during the shooting

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https://twitter.com/marcacaputo/status/966801127168716800

Holy shit
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Doesn't seem optimal
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Wow.
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Sounds like a gun on campus didn't help
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I mean fucking wow

I work in a school and Im not saying I know with 100% authority that I would be brave and selfless if someone attacked, but I truly think and believe I would. But if youre a security guard... thats your fucking JOB. Dude had one job.
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Wait he didn't even try to take him down?

And THIS is the solution they're proposing!?

Explain why everyone should have a gun again?

Stewman_Magoo posted...

Wait he didn't even try to take him down?

And THIS is the solution they're proposing!?

Explain why everyone should have a gun again?

Because everyone is John Wayne.

Even a fucking armed security guard did nothing. Imagine a panicky staff of 50 teachers all having weapons.
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"This is why armed security guards at school will fail"

*one security guard fails to do his job*
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Yall are using this as an excuse to not arm staff in schools? Just fucking lol.
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butter biscuits posted...

"This is why armed security guards at school will fail"

*one security guard fails to do his job*

no, nobody is understanding it that way
don't try that

please nobody respond to this seriously holy shit
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Was in a car crash back in high school. My airbag never deployed.

Guess we dont need airbags
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Sounds like a gun on campus didn't help

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

butter biscuits posted...

"This is why armed security guards at school will fail"

*one security guard fails to do his job*

no, nobody is understanding it that way
don't try that

please nobody respond to this seriously holy shit

lol, the gun "is the problem" not the person behind the gun, as usual
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So the one time a school shooting occurred when an armed security guard was around and he didn't even enter the school when he heard gunshots. JFC

He is a fucking disgrace to the uniform, as soon as he heard shoots he should have been moving in to deal with the situation, this guy wouldn't last a fucking day at where I work.
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This is really upsetting to me, there were kids in there who acted braver than this man and they weren't armed with anything...
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Offworlder1 posted...

He is a fucking disgrace to the uniform, as soon as he heard shoots he should have been moving in to deal with the situation, this guy wouldn't last a fucking day at where I work.

I don't blame him for not going in. He is likely outgunned with only a handgun.
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City says cops had no duty to protect subway hero who subdued killer

He says he put his life on the line to stop a killer and claims cops sat back and watched.

But city lawyers are arguing that the police had no legal duty to protect Joseph Lozito, the Long Island dad stabbed seven times trying to subdue madman Maksim Gelman a courtroom maneuver the subway hero calls disgraceful.

Source:
https://nypost.com/2013/01/27/city-says-cops-had-no-duty-to-protect-subway-hero-who-subdued-killer/

Even the police have no legal duty to protect citizens; why would we expect a guard to protect children?

Dude stood around while children got murdered.

Fuck this piece of shit. Scared to go out like a real man, instead gonna live his life as a coeard bitch.

At least everybody got their shitposting out of the way already.
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According to liberals, good guys with guns don't have any effect on bad guys with guns, so it's doesnt really matter if he stayed outside, right?
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IdiotMachine posted...

City says cops had no duty to protect subway hero who subdued killer

He says he put his life on the line to stop a killer and claims cops sat back and watched.

But city lawyers are arguing that the police had no legal duty to protect Joseph Lozito, the Long Island dad stabbed seven times trying to subdue madman Maksim Gelman a courtroom maneuver the subway hero calls disgraceful.

Source:
https://nypost.com/2013/01/27/city-says-cops-had-no-duty-to-protect-subway-hero-who-subdued-killer/

Even the police have no legal duty to protect citizens; why would we expect a guard to protect children?

that's a city cop in New York
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a42ozslushie posted...

According to liberals, good guys with guns don't have any effect on bad guys with guns, so it's doesnt really matter if he stayed outside, right?

Nevermind.
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Dude stood around while children got murdered.

Fuck this piece of shit. Scared to go out like a real man, instead gonna live his life as a coeard bitch.

Please

Damn near everybody on CE would do this exact same thing, even if they had a gun
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It's a frightening thing to run into a place others are running out of, but you shouldn't be in that position if you're not prepared for a critical incident.

This is why arming teachers is a bad idea; it's not just a gun. You'll need extensive training on close quarters combat, including force on force drills, in order to make someone proficient in that instance and also give them confidence.
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Lmao and the usual suspects show up for damage control.

The one guy tasked with engaging didn't want those problems, but we are expecting the damn chemistry teacher to take them on?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

that's a city cop in New York

More cases, where the police do not have the legal obligation to protect you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

wackyteen posted...

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Dude stood around while children got murdered.

Fuck this piece of shit. Scared to go out like a real man, instead gonna live his life as a coeard bitch.

Please

Damn near everybody on CE would do this exact same thing, even if they had a gun

Speak for yourself, coward. My life isn't worth over a dozen children.

It's hard to run in to active gunfire for $12/hr.

However, regardless of pay, he should have done SOMETHING to try and stop it.
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>when you lie on your resume but still get the job
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lww99 posted...

It's hard to run into active gunfire for $12/hr.

In Oklahoma, they spray paint nerf guns hoping that'll do the trick
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wackyteen posted...

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Dude stood around while children got murdered.

Fuck this piece of shit. Scared to go out like a real man, instead gonna live his life as a coeard bitch.

Please

Damn near everybody on CE would do this exact same thing, even if they had a gun

Yes because we're untrained. The security guard was armed and was trained for these sorts of unfortunate incidents, and he failed to do his job.
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Banjo2553 posted...

he failed to do his job.

And that's why he was put on administrative leave and resigned on his own accord. What more do you want?

Mr_Biscuit posted...

Stewman_Magoo posted...

Wait he didn't even try to take him down?

And THIS is the solution they're proposing!?

Explain why everyone should have a gun again?

Because everyone is John Wayne.

Even a fucking armed security guard did nothing. Imagine a panicky staff of 50 teachers all having weapons.

Imagine thinking anyone wants to arm every single teacher.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Lmao and the usual suspects show up for damage control.

The one guy tasked with engaging didn't want those problems, but we are expecting the damn chemistry teacher to take them on?

Along with their workload and shit pay? Fuck that.
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Freddie_Mercury posted...

>when you lie on your resume but still get the job

LOL
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IdiotMachine posted...

Banjo2553 posted...

he failed to do his job.

And that's why he was put on administrative leave and resigned on his own accord. What more do you want?

That's good. I was just saying that comparing us to a trained unit is fallacious.
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They should have armed and experienced/trained security guards then >_>
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Dude stood around while children got murdered.

Fuck this piece of shit. Scared to go out like a real man, instead gonna live his life as a coward bitch.

This.
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IdiotMachine posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

that's a city cop in New York

More cases, where the police do not have the legal obligation to protect you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

okay, fair

but i'll bring up a different point then
do you think people should feel okay that an armed guard was present, could have done something, but didn't - while he could hear children dying
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NeonOctopus posted...

They should have armed and experienced/trained security guards then >_>

Until we put laws in place where the police/guards have legal obligation to protect citizens, it wouldn't matter, to be honest.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

do you think people should feel okay that an armed guard was present, could have done something, but didn't - while he could hear children dying

No. I think it's ridiculous that the people we trust our lives to, the people who work for the government, with all the training, weaponry, money, tech, etc. they get, they do not have any legal repercussion of "failure to act".

@DragonGirlYuki

As an armed guard it is his DUTY to keep the place safe, he is not a police officer but he is armed with a fucking gun to keep the place safe from an armed attacker. His fucking job is to offer armed resistance against a shooter and not only did he fail he failed like a fucking coward.

Yes a rifle has more range and accuracy but a pistol can beat a rifle if he is smart in how he approaches the situation, it's all about tactics and how to ambush the enemy. At my job if I can't man the fuck up and use my gun when shit goes down I have literally failed at doing the job asked of me and have no business in that field. This guard had no business being armed if he was too much of a fucking pussy ass bitch boy coward to offer resistance of any kind against the shooter.

This guard failed and got more people killed, at the least he should have drawn the guy's fire until back up arrived or distracted him with exchanging gun fire.
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Offworlder1 posted...

This guard failed and got more people killed, at the least he should have drawn the guy's fire until back up arrived or distracted him with exchanging gun fire.

Even an unarmed teacher sacrificed himself to ensure student safety.

NeonOctopus posted...

They should have armed and experienced/trained security guards then >_>

You can have all the training in the world and still freeze when shit hits the fan.
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DragonGirlYuki posted...

Offworlder1 posted...

He is a fucking disgrace to the uniform, as soon as he heard shoots he should have been moving in to deal with the situation, this guy wouldn't last a fucking day at where I work.

I don't blame him for not going in. He is likely outgunned with only a handgun.

I hope you're fucking kidding
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I can't truly say I would be less prone to an emotional freeze
but this particular information still seems to disgust me so maybe I can
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a42ozslushie posted...

According to liberals, good guys with guns don't have any effect on bad guys with guns, so it's doesnt really matter if he stayed outside, right?

He wasnt a good guy
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Why are you calling him a security guard? He was the schools resource officer, and last I knew they are actual police officers, not guards.
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prettyprincess posted...

I can't truly say I would be less prone to an emotional freeze
but this particular information still seems to disgust me so maybe I can

it's still disgusting that he didn't do anything, regardless of whether you would or not
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