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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/22/18 6:15:21 PM
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Right: "2nd Amendment is sacred, we have to have a means against a tyrannical government and corruption."

Alt-Progressives: *threaten violence against corrupt politicians*

Right: "Woah what is wrong with you people"
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SomeonesAlt
02/22/18 6:17:44 PM
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Kaname_Madoka
02/22/18 6:19:26 PM
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Mr_Biscuit
02/22/18 6:20:38 PM
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The right lacks the self-awareness to realize they are the corrupt government people are rebelling against
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DesuDeku
02/22/18 6:20:52 PM
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Maybe it's because the alt left is overreacting?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/23/18 8:17:49 AM
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DesuDeku posted...
Maybe it's because the alt left is overreacting?

Are you telling me this objectively
Objectively, alt-progressives are overreacting because they want to exercise their 2nd amendment rights against corrupt government?
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Nomadic View
02/23/18 8:20:38 AM
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What are you referring to? The left is using firearms against the government?
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Trigg3rH4ppy
02/23/18 8:22:59 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
What are you referring to? The left is using firearms against the government?

I mean...that would be a good way to get gun control to happen
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Darkman124
02/23/18 8:24:56 AM
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government should fear its people, not the other way around.
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_OujiDoza_
02/23/18 8:25:33 AM
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VectorChaos
02/23/18 8:25:41 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
What are you referring to? The left is using firearms against the government?

Yeah, what's going on here. Seems like the opposite to me.

If anything, it's bizarre to me that the far left, who've been having delusions of Trump turning America into some racist oppressive dystopian hellscape, are crying out for the government to remove their only means of resisting a corrupt government.
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Lorenzo_2003
02/23/18 8:31:54 AM
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Disable or control communications. Ban weapons that can be used in self defense. Those two are pretty much fundamental for tyranny to prosper.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/23/18 8:33:23 AM
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VectorChaos posted...
are crying out for the government to remove their only means of resisting a corrupt government.

okay this seriously perplexes me

I have yet to encounter large pockets of people saying BAN GUNS
They want more regulation and enforcement
maybe ALONG with mental health stuff

but so far I, personally, have not seen people actually saying we should repeal the second Amendment and ban guns. the sentiment pops up once in a while, but what stupid thought hasn't America had as a collective
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thronedfire2
02/23/18 8:34:40 AM
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VectorChaos posted...
Nomadic View posted...
What are you referring to? The left is using firearms against the government?

Yeah, what's going on here. Seems like the opposite to me.

If anything, it's bizarre to me that the far left, who've been having delusions of Trump turning America into some racist oppressive dystopian hellscape, are crying out for the government to remove their only means of resisting a corrupt government.


Money and votes are a better way to resist it

If we actually get to the point where regular citizens are engaging in combat with the government we're fucked
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Nomadic View
02/23/18 8:35:37 AM
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Youre delusional. People on this very board say it all the time.
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CyricZ
02/23/18 8:36:07 AM
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Hey man, if I'm going to argue with you, I'm going to find the stupidest thing "your side" has ever said and hold you personally accountable for it.

It's the American way.
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Vertania
02/23/18 8:37:29 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Objectively, alt-progressives are overreacting because they want to exercise their 2nd amendment rights against corrupt government?

Uh, yes.

The Second Amendment doesn't allow you to just hunt and kill your own government officials.
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HydraSlayer82
02/23/18 8:39:24 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
government should fear its people, not the other way around.

Which is why with as corrupt as our government is, it blows my mind that there are people that actually advocate for getting rid of all guns.
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lilORANG
02/23/18 8:40:46 AM
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Right: "2nd Amendment is sacred, we have to have a means against a tyrannical government and corruption."

Also Right: "Respect the police. Respect the troops. They can do no wrong. Also give them unlimited money!"
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CyricZ
02/23/18 8:40:52 AM
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While I'm not for banning all guns, I question the imagination of people when they feel that the only way that they have to deal with a government they don't like is to just shoot them.
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Nomadic View
02/23/18 8:49:44 AM
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CyricZ posted...
While I'm not for banning all guns, I question the imagination of people when they feel that the only way that they have to deal with a government they don't like is to just shoot them.


Is there a difference between a government they dont like and a tyrannical government?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/23/18 8:58:07 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
Is there a difference between a government they dont like and a tyrannical government?

Yes, obviously
Otherwise uber-conservatives would have talked about exercising their 2nd Amendment Rights on Barack Obama-- oh wait
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Unreliableness
02/23/18 9:00:04 AM
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The ONLY reason that the government has NOT already confiscated our guns like 10 years ago is because of fear for armed rebellion; and 2nd amendment support in the military. That is the truth.
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Mr_Biscuit
02/23/18 9:03:37 AM
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darkjedilink
02/23/18 9:21:21 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
VectorChaos posted...
are crying out for the government to remove their only means of resisting a corrupt government.

okay this seriously perplexes me

I have yet to encounter large pockets of people saying BAN GUNS
They want more regulation and enforcement
maybe ALONG with mental health stuff

but so far I, personally, have not seen people actually saying we should repeal the second Amendment and ban guns. the sentiment pops up once in a while, but what stupid thought hasn't America had as a collective

Our last President wanted to ban guns, as did Trump's opponent.
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darkjedilink
02/23/18 9:23:24 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
VectorChaos posted...
Nomadic View posted...
What are you referring to? The left is using firearms against the government?

Yeah, what's going on here. Seems like the opposite to me.

If anything, it's bizarre to me that the far left, who've been having delusions of Trump turning America into some racist oppressive dystopian hellscape, are crying out for the government to remove their only means of resisting a corrupt government.

Money and votes are a better way to resist it

If we actually get to the point where regular citizens are engaging in combat with the government we're fucked

Like the leftist that shot up the Congressional baseball game?
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NinjaBreakfast
02/23/18 9:29:25 AM
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"We need guns to fight back against a tyrannical government"

"#blueliveamatter, support our troops, extensions of the state couldn't possibly do anything wrong!"
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/23/18 9:37:02 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Our last President wanted to ban guns, as did Trump's opponent.

lmfao
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NinjaBreakfast
02/23/18 9:42:42 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Our last President wanted to ban guns, as did Trump's opponent.

lmfao

Tbh it's a sign of how ridiculous America (and indeed the obligation so many people feel to try and strive for an arbitrary middle ground position) is that banning weapons with literally no legitimate purpose other than causing death and serious injury is seen as some wildly oppressive move.
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scorpion41
02/23/18 9:46:42 AM
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Government: You can continue exercising your second amendment rights guaranteed by the Constitution.

Liberals: Gaaaaah! Corrupt fucks! Revolution because feelings!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/23/18 9:48:16 AM
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It's politifact, so yeah take it with a grain of salt
but a quick review shows

Obamas first-term record was more focused on gun rights than control. In 2010, he signed bills allowing Amtrak passengers to pack guns in their luggage and carry loaded firearms into national parks.
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During his 2012 re-election campaign, Obama said he wanted to work toward reintroducing a federal assault weapons ban, because "weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don't belong on our streets."
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Part of the reason a new assault weapons ban didnt gain traction in Congress under Obama was because the prior assault weapons ban, from 1994 to 2004, didnt stop violent incidents like mass shootings, Schildkraut said. For example, one of the weapons used in the 1999 Columbine shootings, an IntraTec TEC-DC9, was on the list of banned guns, she said.

Obama couldnt institute another ban without Congress, but he could still strengthen existing laws. (He had promised to "enforce the laws weve already got" during his re-election campaign. We rated that a Promise Kept.) He included the ban as part of a sweeping set of suggested legislation and 23 executive actions he announced in January 2013.

His plan to reduce gun violence included a focus on mental health treatment, limiting magazine sizes, strengthening background checks and restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years. Obama issued further actions on medical histories in background checks in 2014.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/jan/06/congress-blocked-obama-call-gun-control-mass-shoot/

I don't see anything that says "Obama wanted to ban all guns."
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CyricZ
02/23/18 9:50:13 AM
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restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years

God, I wish we could get back to this.
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masticatingman
02/23/18 9:59:28 AM
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Revolution = emotional Twitter rants en masse and the search for a safe space now?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/23/18 10:01:04 AM
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masticatingman posted...
Revolution = emotional Twitter rants en masse and the search for a safe space now?

You realize that this is exactly how many people on the Left characterize and make fun of conservative gun-owners right

"Revolution = fat, out-of-shape potatoes grabbing their guns and getting on their pick up trucks because they want to shoot their guns and illegals are taking their jobs"
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QueenCarly
02/23/18 10:01:45 AM
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VectorChaos posted...

If anything, it's bizarre to me that the far left, who've been having delusions of Trump turning America into some racist oppressive dystopian hellscape, are crying out for the government to remove their only means of resisting a corrupt government.


The liberals you're whining about are not the 'far left.'

They're not even 'the left.'
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
02/23/18 11:28:20 AM
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CyricZ posted...
restarting federal gun research that had been frozen for years

God, I wish we could get back to this.

its like when someone showed me incontrovertible proof that I have a sleeping problem

and I had a mini crisis i didn't want to have
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DesuDeku
02/23/18 4:25:38 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
DesuDeku posted...
Maybe it's because the alt left is overreacting?

Are you telling me this objectively
Objectively, alt-progressives are overreacting because they want to exercise their 2nd amendment rights against corrupt government?

I've seen some people on the alt left call the government tyrannical ever since Trump was elected. I'm just saying that they're overreacting if they think we need a revolution right now.
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SomeonesAlt
02/23/18 4:34:23 PM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Our last President wanted to ban guns, as did Trump's opponent.

lmfao

Darkjedilink also blames Obama for his wife leaving him (seriously)
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DesuDeku
02/23/18 4:38:37 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Our last President wanted to ban guns, as did Trump's opponent.

lmfao

Darkjedilink also blames Obama for his wife leaving him (seriously)

Isn't everything Obama's fault? Who else could have poisoned the watering hole?
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