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DeepsPraw
02/28/18 7:16:21 PM
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You can't compare crime statistics when two countries have vastly different law systems, different definitions of crimes and different ways of reporting statistics.

How much abuse is going on in Japan that we just don't know about? Just looking at crime statistics is going to give a very inaccurate answer. Unless the two countries have identical justice systems, which is very much not the case
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KamikazePotato
02/28/18 7:19:40 PM
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Sexual assault in Japan is reported at a rate of about never. The culture is really big on keeping silent on injustices done towards you.
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DeepsPraw
02/28/18 7:30:47 PM
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BettyB0op08 posted...
I mean, if you're going down that route then you obviously can't pretend like you can compare two country's views on pedophilia or frequency of sexual assault from some sensationalized internet articles and anecdotes either.


hey it's not stopping you, is it?

If your information comes from somewhere other than statistics or anecdotes, please tell
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foolm0r0n
02/28/18 9:38:35 PM
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Japan also has a 100% prosecution rate which means they only prosecute the easiest most obvious crimes, which "that man sexually assaulted me" definitely is not.
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BowserCuffs
02/28/18 9:52:10 PM
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BettyB0op08 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
"Funnily" enough, Japan has a big problem with older men perving on underage girls with some shops even using younger girls to draw in that sort of crowd. It's almost like there's a connection between normalizing pedophilia and an increase in sexual assaults on underage people.

The US has a far bigger child molestation rate and general child abuse rate and far more child/teen pregnancies (one of the major reasons why underage sex is discouraged).


And Japan has cafes where underage girls in sailor scout uniforms are forced to allow middle-aged men to lay their heads on their laps, and never have the right to complain.

Basically, if you're comparing crime rates, you have to remember that in places where pedophilia is more normalized, you're likely to see lower crime rates because it's rarely charged as a crime.

Allow me to illustrate it for you.

In Molestland, people get molested 900 times, but because it's legal in molestland, nobody gets arrested, so the crime statistic for molestation cases is 0.

In Nomolestland, people get molested 90 times, and of those 90, 80 get charged for molestation, arrested, and incarcerated. The crime statistic for molestation cases is 80.

So which has more molestation? Molestland with 0 people charged for molesting, or Nomolestland with 80 people charged for molesting?
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foolm0r0n
02/28/18 9:58:02 PM
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Does Molestland have a work visa program or something I can apply for?
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KamikazePotato
02/28/18 10:20:08 PM
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BettyB0op08 posted...
pedophilia is also "normalized" in the US too.

lmao

You're pretty much insane if you think the US is anywhere close to Japan on the pedo-meter, even if the US does have its own share of problems. Here's one very recent example:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-02-27/rurouni-kenshin-creator-nobuhiro-watsuki-fined-200000-yen-for-possession-of-child-porn/.128322

Child porn found on computer, fined like $2000 bucks (he's rich), no jail time, will probably resume his career shortly.
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LapisLazuli
02/28/18 10:28:32 PM
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I'm mad every minute this topic is on the board.
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foolm0r0n
02/28/18 10:36:07 PM
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Alright Santa you don't need to get on an alt just to argue pedophilia with us
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tazzyboyishere
02/28/18 11:16:12 PM
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Jeez, this got fucking weird
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LapisLazuli
02/28/18 11:17:56 PM
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Buy Tales of Berseria, people. Its a good game.
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BowserCuffs
02/28/18 11:24:40 PM
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UnhndredDescole posted...
If all those studies that show that the availability of porn reduces sex crime mean anything places that are more repressed are more likely to commit crimes.


We're not talking about porn though.

We're talking about child porn, fictional or not, and how it relates to paedophile activity.

Human beings are, by nature, sexual creatures, and repressing that doesn't help us. Sexual urges are normal.

We are not, by nature, paedophilic, no matter how much paedophiles propaganda tries to push that onto us. What paedophiles need is therapy - not indulgence.

All evidence shows that indulging paedophiles does not reduce the risk of them becoming child molesters. In fact, even more evidence shows that the porn is used to groom children into relationships with these predators.

So the presence of child porn, even featuring fictional characters, makes it easier for these predators to groom children into paedophilic relationships.

And oh boy, in Japan, there are cafes that make their money off of pedophilic middle-aged men. So yeah. That's definitely normalized.

Remember: Age of Consent is the age you can consent to having sex with your peers. It is still illegal for someone significantly older than a teenager to have sex with a teenager even if they are above the age of consent.
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Mac Arrowny
03/01/18 12:42:19 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
BettyB0op08 posted...
pedophilia is also "normalized" in the US too.

lmao

You're pretty much insane if you think the US is anywhere close to Japan on the pedo-meter, even if the US does have its own share of problems. Here's one very recent example:

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-02-27/rurouni-kenshin-creator-nobuhiro-watsuki-fined-200000-yen-for-possession-of-child-porn/.128322

Child porn found on computer, fined like $2000 bucks (he's rich), no jail time, will probably resume his career shortly.


Japan is easier on people who view child porn, yeah. They're much harsher than the US on actual producers of the material and child molesters though. The US partly targets consumers because it's so much easier to attack them than the suppliers. After all, someone looking at child porn is much worse than someone who makes child porn, right?

Incidentally, not that it makes it right, but one of the reasons his fine was small is that they were videos of naked children and didn't contain explicit sexual acts. I assume stuff like that is taken into account in the US too (IE snuff child porn would carry the highest penalties).
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