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Muscles
02/26/18 1:14:41 AM
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How effective are patches? I am getting my wisdom teeth in about a week and since I can't smoke for a while I wanted to look into those so Im bout writing cold turkey, I'm gonna try to quit all together, but I'm not even gonna try cold turkey
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Kyuubi4269
02/26/18 1:25:04 AM
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It'll extend your cravings. Just go cold turkey and grow up.
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Muscles
02/26/18 11:15:50 AM
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Bump
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Mead
02/26/18 11:18:11 AM
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All the smokers Ive known who actually quit went cold turkey. Anyone that used patches, medication, or programs still smokes.

Its all part of an industry that doesnt want you to stop.
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wwinterj25
02/26/18 11:22:44 AM
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Muscles posted...
How effective are patches?


About as effective as a freezer is to keep you warm. The thing that's working for me to stop smoking cigs is vaping. I still get my nicotine fix(something I'll lower over time), it's inexpensive to do and for me it's more satisfying. I've actually saved money due to not buying smokes too and I'm probably better on the inside. I'd recommend folk try vaping if they want to quit rather than these patches or any other expensive gimmick.
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Muscles
02/26/18 11:26:13 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Muscles posted...
How effective are patches?


About as effective as a freezer is to keep you warm. The things that's working for me to stop smoking cigs is vaping. I still get my nicotine fix(something I'll lower over time), it's inexpensive to do and for me it's more satisfying. I've actually saved money due to not buying smokes too and I'm probably better on the inside. I'd recommend folk try vaping if they want to quit rather than these patches or any other expensive gimmick.

It's something I considered, but I can't vape after I get my wisdom teeth out
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wwinterj25
02/26/18 11:27:52 AM
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Muscles posted...
It's something I considered, but I can't vape after I get my wisdom teeth out


Why? I mean I've had teeth out and still I'm fine. I never unclogged the clot or anything too.
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Muscles
02/26/18 11:28:26 AM
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I was told I can't smoke or vape after because of the suction
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wwinterj25
02/26/18 11:31:18 AM
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Muscles posted...
I was told I can't smoke or vape after because of the suction

Yeah that's a standard thing when you have teeth out as it could disrupt the clot and hinder healing. Admittedly I took that risk and was smoking at the time. Still patches won't do anything.
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Nichtcrawler X
02/26/18 11:36:47 AM
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While I never smoked myself, I can repeat what my grandfather and father both said about quitting.

The only thing that really matters is your genuine desire to stop. Gum and patches are tools that may help, but without you really wanting to stop, they are useless.
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Mead
02/26/18 11:46:39 AM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Muscles posted...
It's something I considered, but I can't vape after I get my wisdom teeth out


Why? I mean I've had teeth out and still I'm fine. I never unclogged the clot or anything too.


The suction from smoking or using straws afterwards can cause dry socket which I hear is very painful
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Lokarin
02/26/18 11:48:49 AM
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Mead posted...
wwinterj25 posted...
Muscles posted...
It's something I considered, but I can't vape after I get my wisdom teeth out


Why? I mean I've had teeth out and still I'm fine. I never unclogged the clot or anything too.


The suction from smoking or using straws afterwards can cause dry socket which I hear is very painful


Ya, dry socket is something you want to avoid at all costs. Use the patch, it's better* for you anyways

*A large portion of the harm from smoking is the inhalation of a particulate, not what that particulate is - even if you vaped water you're at equal risk from many forms of lung damage.
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wwinterj25
02/26/18 11:53:54 AM
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Mead posted...
The suction from smoking or using straws afterwards can cause dry socket which I hear is very painful


Indeed. Thankfully I've never experienced that.

Lokarin posted...
Use the patch, it's better* for you anyways

*A large portion of the harm from smoking is the inhalation of a particulate, not what that particulate is - even if you vaped water you're at equal risk from many forms of lung damage.


... Don't, vape or smoke! Buy our expensive product instead as it's better for you!
Honestly while vaping is the lesser of two evils you're still getting nicotine in your system regardless and that's not good for either.
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Doctor Foxx
02/26/18 11:55:05 AM
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The only thing that helped me quit was not having nicotine.

I used vaping to help me, but the important thing was stopping vaping after the withdrawal symptoms were gone.
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wwinterj25
02/26/18 12:03:07 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
I used vaping to help me, but the important thing was stopping vaping after the withdrawal symptoms were gone.


True that. The idea is to use less and less nicotine in your liquid and eventually get down to 0mg and by that point you won't even feel the need to vape unless you want to do it for the taste for some reason. I'm not vaping to quit smoking though. I'm just doing it as a better alternative.
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Lokarin
02/26/18 12:05:05 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
... Don't, vape or smoke! Buy our expensive product instead as it's better for you!
Honestly while vaping is the lesser of two evils you're still getting nicotine in your system regardless and that's not good for either.


I mean in the context of getting your wisdom teeth out
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anti-helly
02/26/18 12:09:08 PM
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imagine being that addicted you can't stop long enough for your mouth to heal
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wwinterj25
02/26/18 12:09:59 PM
#18:


Lokarin posted...
I mean in the context of getting your wisdom teeth out


Fair enough. It would cut out the suction part. It'll probably still make you want to smoke though. I guess the TC just needs to try it himself and see how it goes but as far as I'm concerned they don't help.

anti-helly posted...
imagine being that addicted you can't stop long enough for your mouth to heal


It's more a force of habit than actual addiction. For someone who has being smoking for 16+ years it's a hard habit to quit. Just the same as quieting any of your habits that you have done for a long time would be.
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Muscles
02/26/18 12:12:15 PM
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anti-helly posted...
imagine being that addicted you can't stop long enough for your mouth to heal

Do you know how withdrawals work?
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Lokarin
02/26/18 12:13:26 PM
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Muscles posted...
anti-helly posted...
imagine being that addicted you can't stop long enough for your mouth to heal

Do you know how withdrawals work?


Actually, since you'll already be miserable due to the recovery - it might be a good time to just eat the double misery and quit. But I totes understand if you don't
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Doctor Foxx
02/26/18 12:13:58 PM
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anti-helly posted...
imagine being that addicted you can't stop long enough for your mouth to heal

oh helly, nicotine is a bitch and a half to withdraw from. You don't know until you've gone through it.

yes the addiction is real
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Muscles
02/26/18 12:14:45 PM
#22:


Lokarin posted...
Muscles posted...
anti-helly posted...
imagine being that addicted you can't stop long enough for your mouth to heal

Do you know how withdrawals work?


Actually, since you'll already be miserable due to the recovery - it might be a good time to just eat the double misery and quit. But I totes understand if you don't

I feel like it'll make me crave it more
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LinkPizza
02/26/18 12:15:07 PM
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What about like eating and snacking a lot? Could that help?
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wwinterj25
02/26/18 12:15:14 PM
#24:


Doctor Foxx posted...
You don't know until you've gone through it.


Yeah I wonder if folk who come out with things like that have ever smoked themselves. Something tells me they haven't.

LinkPizza posted...
What about like eating and snacking a lot? Could that help?


That probably would make me want to smoke more.
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Doctor Foxx
02/26/18 12:16:29 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
What about like eating and snacking a lot? Could that help?

most people that quit smoking pack on weight because they snack instead of smoke
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Muscles
02/26/18 12:28:02 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
LinkPizza posted...
What about like eating and snacking a lot? Could that help?

most people that quit smoking pack on weight because they snack instead of smoke

Which I'm trying to avoid, I already started going to the gym over a month ago and cut out pop and energy drinks a few weeks ago
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anti-helly
02/26/18 12:39:11 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
It's more a force of habit than actual addiction. For someone who has being smoking for 16+ years it's a hard habit to quit. Just the same as quieting any of your habits that you have done for a long time would be.

i've quit smoking.

it's not hard.
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LinkPizza
02/26/18 12:39:29 PM
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Instead of snacking a lot, maybe lollipops...
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Lokarin
02/26/18 12:40:04 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Instead of snacking a lot, maybe lollipops...


Can't suck, and who just licks a lollipop?
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LinkPizza
02/26/18 12:42:27 PM
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Lokarin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Instead of snacking a lot, maybe lollipops...


Can't suck, and who just licks a lollipop?

The owl did... until he immediately bites down. But it would take a while to eat. Which would keep him busier for longer...
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anti-helly
02/26/18 12:42:44 PM
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that owl is a dirty cheater
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Noop_Noop
02/26/18 1:04:50 PM
#32:


Mead posted...
All the smokers Ive known who actually quit went cold turkey. Anyone that used patches, medication, or programs still smokes.

Its all part of an industry that doesnt want you to stop.


I used a vape and slowly stepped it down to 0mg and honestly it was much easier than any of the times I tried cold turkey. When you remove the chemical addiction, all you have left is the oral fixation which is much easier to kick.
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wwinterj25
02/26/18 4:37:50 PM
#33:


anti-helly posted...
it's not hard.


Clearly it is for some folk.
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nesrtkfan
02/26/18 4:44:36 PM
#34:


i tried patches and it didn't help me quit. What they did do however was cause very vivid dreams. If I put a patch on at night anyway.

I did quit with the help of non nicotine gum and an extra allowance of nipple sucking, since i was quiting after all
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