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antfair 02/27/18 8:48:05 PM #1:	The baby's mother is being charged with negligent homicide for failing to secure the child seat http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_7ee096a6-1c03-11e8-ba78-839ee2f97bea.html Just weeks after a Baton Rouge police officer was arrested on negligent homicide and accused of causing a crash that injured several people and killed a baby, the child's mother was also arrested on the same charge because police said she failed to properly secure the baby's car seat. Brittany Stephens, 20, was arrested Tuesday after police found that her daughter's car seat was not secured and the straps were not adjusted correctly for the child's height, according to her arrest report. Police said the "lack of securing the seat to the vehicle and the loose straps are a contributing factor in the death" of the child and "show gross negligence" on the mother's part. Stephens was not the driver but told officers she secured the car seat with the baby inside. Police spokesman Sgt. L'Jean McKneely said she was arrested because she "was the person responsible for the buckling of the car seat." Stephens, of 3161 Winnipeg Drive, Baton Rouge, was booked Tuesday into Parish Prison on one count each of negligent homicide and seat belt violation. The three other adults in the car with Stephens were also issued traffic citations Tuesday, McKneely said. Breea Gross, 18, was driving when the crash occurred and was cited for driving without a license, seat belt violation and three counts of child safety restraint violation. Janice Gross, 40, was cited for allowing an unlicensed driver to drive her vehicle and seat belt violation. Seth Eames, 23, also cited for seat belt violation. McKneely said there were more people riding in the vehicle than seats available. The crash occurred around 8 p.m. Oct. 12, 2017, when a Baton Rouge Police officer driving his Corvette 94 mph while off duty struck the Nissan carrying the four adults and four children. Officer Christopher Manuel was driving north on Airline Highway and crashed into the passenger side of the Nissan, which was turning left onto Florline Boulevard at a green light. All of the occupants of the Nissan were taken to the hospital. The one year old, Seyaira Stephens, later died of her injuries. Manuel, 28, was arrested Feb. 16 on one count each of negligent homicide and speeding. Police said then that Manuel has been on paid administrative leave since the accident. He posted $15,000 bail and was released from jail the same day he was booked. A blood test showed Manuel was not impaired when the crash occurred, according to Baton Rouge police. East Baton Rouge District Attorney Hillar Moore III said Tuesday his office has not yet determined whether Stephens or Manuel will face charges, but prosecutors "will review all reports, charges and arrests and make the appropriate decisions based upon facts and law." --- What is this, a fair for ants? <cite>antfair posted [p:896894227] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>The baby's mother is being charged with negligent homicide for failing to secure the child seat http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_7ee096a6-1c03-11e8-ba78-839ee2f97bea.html <quote>Just weeks after a Baton Rouge police officer was arrested on negligent homicide and accused of causing a crash that injured several people and killed a baby, the child's mother was also arrested on the same charge because police said she failed to properly secure the baby's car seat. Brittany Stephens, 20, was arrested Tuesday after police found that her daughter's car seat was not secured and the straps were not adjusted correctly for the child's height, according to her arrest report. Police said the "lack of securing the seat to the vehicle and the loose straps are a contributing factor in the death" of the child and "show gross negligence" on the mother's part. Stephens was not the driver but told officers she secured the car seat with the baby inside. Police spokesman Sgt. L'Jean McKneely said she was arrested because she "was the person responsible for the buckling of the car seat." Stephens, of 3161 Winnipeg Drive, Baton Rouge, was booked Tuesday into Parish Prison on one count each of negligent homicide and seat belt violation. The three other adults in the car with Stephens were also issued traffic citations Tuesday, McKneely said. Breea Gross, 18, was driving when the crash occurred and was cited for driving without a license, seat belt violation and three counts of child safety restraint violation. Janice Gross, 40, was cited for allowing an unlicensed driver to drive her vehicle and seat belt violation. Seth Eames, 23, also cited for seat belt violation. McKneely said there were more people riding in the vehicle than seats available. The crash occurred around 8 p.m. Oct. 12, 2017, when a Baton Rouge Police officer driving his Corvette 94 mph while off duty struck the Nissan carrying the four adults and four children. Officer Christopher Manuel was driving north on Airline Highway and crashed into the passenger side of the Nissan, which was turning left onto Florline Boulevard at a green light. All of the occupants of the Nissan were taken to the hospital. The one year old, Seyaira Stephens, later died of her injuries. Manuel, 28, was arrested Feb. 16 on one count each of negligent homicide and speeding. Police said then that Manuel has been on paid administrative leave since the accident. He posted $15,000 bail and was released from jail the same day he was booked. A blood test showed Manuel was not impaired when the crash occurred, according to Baton Rouge police. East Baton Rouge District Attorney Hillar Moore III said Tuesday his office has not yet determined whether Stephens or Manuel will face charges, but prosecutors "will review all reports, charges and arrests and make the appropriate decisions based upon facts and law."</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 02/27/18 8:51:04 PM #3:	Nice, they did everything they could to make sure they still get some compensation from ruining these peoples lives. Nice nice. I agree with charging the driver for what she's been charged with, though. antfair posted... Manuel has been on paid administrative leave Sounds about right. --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:896894412] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>Nice, they did everything they could to make sure they still get some compensation from ruining these peoples lives. Nice nice. I agree with charging the driver for what she's been charged with, though. <cite>antfair posted...</cite> <quote>Manuel has been on paid administrative leave</quote> Sounds about right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vindris_SNH 02/27/18 9:00:26 PM #4:	We should all hate cops now. --- glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants? <cite>Vindris_SNH posted [p:896895010] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>We should all hate cops now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 02/27/18 9:01:26 PM #5:	Reminds me of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Gray_(police_officer) <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:896895070] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>Reminds me of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Gray_(police_officer)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 02/27/18 9:02:18 PM #6:	Acab --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:896895121] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>Acab</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/27/18 9:02:37 PM #7:	8 people in a nissan? yeah that's unsafe --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:896895140] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>8 people in a nissan? yeah that's unsafe</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 02/27/18 9:03:31 PM #8:	Goddamn, he lives in the same neighborhood as my psycho ex. --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:896895198] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>Goddamn, he lives in the same neighborhood as my psycho ex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ben_Ruggiero 02/27/18 9:04:14 PM #9:	It's not enough that mother will have live the rest of her life knowing she made a small more than likely innocent mistake and her child died because of it, but let's charge her with negligent homicide too! --- A wiseguy never pays for his drinks <cite>Ben_Ruggiero posted [p:896895244] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>It's not enough that mother will have live the rest of her life knowing she made a small more than likely innocent mistake and her child died because of it, but let's charge her with negligent homicide too!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/27/18 9:07:43 PM #10:	Ben_Ruggiero posted... It's not enough that mother will have live the rest of her life knowing she made a small more than likely innocent mistake and her child died because of it, but let's charge her with negligent homicide too! This only happened because a police officer did the crime. It's fucked --- https://i.imgur.com/tviNQV5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SJT9tyG.png <cite>Doe posted [p:896895471] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ben_Ruggiero posted...</cite> <quote>It's not enough that mother will have live the rest of her life knowing she made a small more than likely innocent mistake and her child died because of it, but let's charge her with negligent homicide too!</quote> This only happened because a police officer did the crime. It's fucked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/27/18 9:11:21 PM #11:	well the mother should have known a cop would be driving and not be in the way. cops are infallible so please don't criticize any of them or it means you hate all of them and are bad. /obvious sarcasm --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896895703] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>well the mother should have known a cop would be driving and not be in the way. cops are infallible so please don't criticize any of them or it means you hate all of them and are bad. /obvious sarcasm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smoke_break 02/27/18 9:13:06 PM #12:	This is some fucked up shit. --- http://i.imgur.com/WTmIPt8.jpg <cite>smoke_break posted [p:896895815] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>This is some fucked up shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/27/18 9:13:12 PM #13:	Most cops might not be bad, but they always protect the bad ones. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896895825] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>Most cops might not be bad, but they always protect the bad ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 02/27/18 9:13:51 PM #14:	antfair posted... Police said the "lack of securing the seat to the vehicle and the loose straps are a contributing factor in the death" of the child and "show gross negligence" on the mother's part. Complete bullshit. That doesn't sound like criminal negligence at all so the only explanation Doe posted... Ben_Ruggiero posted... It's not enough that mother will have live the rest of her life knowing she made a small more than likely innocent mistake and her child died because of it, but let's charge her with negligent homicide too! This only happened because a police officer did the crime. It's fucked is this <cite>Axiom posted [p:896895855] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>antfair posted...</cite> <quote>Police said the "lack of securing the seat to the vehicle and the loose straps are a contributing factor in the death" of the child and "show gross negligence" on the mother's part. </quote> Complete bullshit. That doesn't sound like criminal negligence at all so the only explanation <cite>Doe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ben_Ruggiero posted...</cite> <quote>It's not enough that mother will have live the rest of her life knowing she made a small more than likely innocent mistake and her child died because of it, but let's charge her with negligent homicide too!</quote> This only happened because a police officer did the crime. It's fucked</quote> is this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 02/27/18 9:16:02 PM #15:	Cop kills someone, victim gets punished for it. This is pretty common in the US <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:896895983] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>Cop kills someone, victim gets punished for it. This is pretty common in the US</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/27/18 9:16:32 PM #16:	Axiom posted... antfair posted... Police said the "lack of securing the seat to the vehicle and the loose straps are a contributing factor in the death" of the child and "show gross negligence" on the mother's part. Complete bullshit. That doesn't sound like criminal negligence at all so the only explanation Doe posted... Ben_Ruggiero posted... It's not enough that mother will have live the rest of her life knowing she made a small more than likely innocent mistake and her child died because of it, but let's charge her with negligent homicide too! This only happened because a police officer did the crime. It's fucked is this yea apparently driving 90+ isn't "gross negligence". incredible.. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896896010] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote><cite>antfair posted...</cite> <quote>Police said the "lack of securing the seat to the vehicle and the loose straps are a contributing factor in the death" of the child and "show gross negligence" on the mother's part. </quote> Complete bullshit. That doesn't sound like criminal negligence at all so the only explanation <cite>Doe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ben_Ruggiero posted...</cite> <quote>It's not enough that mother will have live the rest of her life knowing she made a small more than likely innocent mistake and her child died because of it, but let's charge her with negligent homicide too!</quote> This only happened because a police officer did the crime. It's fucked</quote> is this</quote> yea apparently driving 90+ isn't "gross negligence". incredible..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 02/27/18 9:20:34 PM #18:	antfair posted... Manuel, 28, was arrested...paid administrative leave --- Oda break tracker 2018- 2 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:896896256] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>antfair posted...</cite> <quote>Manuel, 28, was arrested...paid administrative leave</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/27/18 9:21:39 PM #19:	Ving_Rhames posted... antfair posted... Manuel has been on paid administrative leave Sounds about right. Liberals love unions, but when they actually protect their union members in situations like this, suddenly they're no good. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:896896328] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ving_Rhames posted...</cite> <quote><cite>antfair posted...</cite> <quote>Manuel has been on paid administrative leave</quote> Sounds about right.</quote> Liberals love unions, but when they actually protect their union members in situations like this, suddenly they're no good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 02/27/18 9:25:27 PM #21:	East Baton Rouge District Attorney Hillar Moore III said Tuesday his office has not yet determined whether Stephens or Manuel will face charges, but prosecutors "will review all reports, charges and arrests and make the appropriate decisions based upon facts and law." Uh I mean the guy was literally driving recklessly, ran a red light, hospitalized 7 people and killed 1. How does that NOT lead to charges. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 98. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:896896532] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>East Baton Rouge District Attorney Hillar Moore III said Tuesday his office has not yet determined whether Stephens or Manuel will face charges, but prosecutors "will review all reports, charges and arrests and make the appropriate decisions based upon facts and law." Uh I mean the guy was literally driving recklessly, ran a red light, hospitalized 7 people and killed 1. How does that NOT lead to charges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 02/27/18 9:26:48 PM #22:	Car seat properly strapped in or not, that baby wasn't going to live in that vehicle that got slammed going 94 mph. A good chunk of that car that got hit had to be destroyed, so how could they even fucking tell the child seat wasn't put in properly. --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:896896637] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>Car seat properly strapped in or not, that baby wasn't going to live in that vehicle that got slammed going 94 mph. A good chunk of that car that got hit had to be destroyed, so how could they even fucking tell the child seat wasn't put in properly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Freddie_Mercury 02/27/18 9:28:22 PM #24:	when will the DMV start teaching drivers about the thin blue line --- I'm a sex machine ready to reload... when's sig emoji support thinking face emoji <cite>Freddie_Mercury posted [p:896896704] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>when will the DMV start teaching drivers about the thin blue line </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/27/18 9:28:49 PM #25:	27_Sandman_40 posted... Hexenherz posted... East Baton Rouge District Attorney Hillar Moore III said Tuesday his office has not yet determined whether Stephens or Manuel will face charges, but prosecutors "will review all reports, charges and arrests and make the appropriate decisions based upon facts and law." Uh I mean the guy was literally driving recklessly, ran a red light, hospitalized 7 people and killed 1. How does that NOT lead to charges. Because they need him to protect and serve. also his job is hard so he gets the benefit of the doubt here..his hard job made him need to speed. brave soul. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896896734] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>27_Sandman_40 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>East Baton Rouge District Attorney Hillar Moore III said Tuesday his office has not yet determined whether Stephens or Manuel will face charges, but prosecutors "will review all reports, charges and arrests and make the appropriate decisions based upon facts and law." Uh I mean the guy was literally driving recklessly, ran a red light, hospitalized 7 people and killed 1. How does that NOT lead to charges.</quote> Because they need him to protect and serve.</quote> also his job is hard so he gets the benefit of the doubt here..his hard job made him need to speed. brave soul.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 02/27/18 9:28:51 PM #26:	KillerKhan420 posted... Car seat properly strapped in or not, that baby wasn't going to live in that vehicle that got slammed going 94 mph. A good chunk of that car that got hit had to be destroyed, so how could they even fucking tell the child seat wasn't put in properly. Anything to draw attention from the fact that the police force is protecting one of their own instead of seeking justice for a dead child. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 98. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:896896736] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>KillerKhan420 posted...</cite> <quote>Car seat properly strapped in or not, that baby wasn't going to live in that vehicle that got slammed going 94 mph. A good chunk of that car that got hit had to be destroyed, so how could they even fucking tell the child seat wasn't put in properly.</quote> Anything to draw attention from the fact that the police force is protecting one of their own instead of seeking justice for a dead child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 02/27/18 9:29:07 PM #27:	The Admiral posted... Liberals love unions, but when they actually protect their union members in situations like this, suddenly they're no good. Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members. I'd be all in favor of unions that fought for better working conditions or more vacation days, but not defending those who broke the law or killed people. Most other unions don't defend killers, which is why most of us have no issues whatsoever with most other unions <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:896896749] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals love unions, but when they actually protect their union members in situations like this, suddenly they're no good. </quote> Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members. I'd be all in favor of unions that fought for better working conditions or more vacation days, but not defending those who broke the law or killed people. Most other unions don't defend killers, which is why most of us have no issues whatsoever with most other unions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/27/18 9:30:10 PM #28:	I hope she gets a good lawyer because those charges would be torn to shreds --- https://i.imgur.com/tviNQV5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SJT9tyG.png <cite>Doe posted [p:896896810] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>I hope she gets a good lawyer because those charges would be torn to shreds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/27/18 9:30:15 PM #29:	Darklit_Minuet posted... The Admiral posted... Liberals love unions, but when they actually protect their union members in situations like this, suddenly they're no good. Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members. I'd be all in favor of unions that fought for better working conditions or more vacation days, but not defending those who broke the law or killed people. Most other unions don't defend killers, which is why most of us have no issues whatsoever with most other unions well, he did end up with some extra vacation days --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:896896818] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals love unions, but when they actually protect their union members in situations like this, suddenly they're no good. </quote> Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members. I'd be all in favor of unions that fought for better working conditions or more vacation days, but not defending those who broke the law or killed people. Most other unions don't defend killers, which is why most of us have no issues whatsoever with most other unions</quote> well, he did end up with some extra vacation days</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 02/27/18 9:30:55 PM #30:	The police aren't required to protect citizens by law and the police see each other as brothers and sisters so it makes sense they're prioritizing him over the people he injured and killed, I mean you'd be more worried about your brother or sister over strangers,too wouldn't you? It ain't right but what else can we do? --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:896896852] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>The police aren't required to protect citizens by law and the police see each other as brothers and sisters so it makes sense they're prioritizing him over the people he injured and killed, I mean you'd be more worried about your brother or sister over strangers,too wouldn't you? It ain't right but what else can we do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 02/27/18 9:31:47 PM #31:	tremain07 posted... The police aren't required to protect citizens by law and the police see each other as brothers and sisters so it makes sense they're prioritizing him over the people he injured and killed, I mean you'd be more worried about your brother or sister over strangers,too wouldn't you? It ain't right but what else can we do? Hold them fucking accountable? --- Oda break tracker 2018- 2 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:896896910] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>The police aren't required to protect citizens by law and the police see each other as brothers and sisters so it makes sense they're prioritizing him over the people he injured and killed, I mean you'd be more worried about your brother or sister over strangers,too wouldn't you? It ain't right but what else can we do?</quote> Hold them fucking accountable?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/27/18 9:33:51 PM #32:	Darklit_Minuet posted... Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members. You seem highly confused about what unions actually do. Protecting their members from being summarily fired is one of their highest priorities. These "paid vacations" exist because that's what unions do. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:896897011] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members.</quote> You seem highly confused about what unions actually do. Protecting their members from being summarily fired is one of their highest priorities. These "paid vacations" exist because that's what unions do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 02/27/18 9:34:56 PM #33:	voldothegr8 posted... tremain07 posted... The police aren't required to protect citizens by law and the police see each other as brothers and sisters so it makes sense they're prioritizing him over the people he injured and killed, I mean you'd be more worried about your brother or sister over strangers,too wouldn't you? It ain't right but what else can we do? Hold them fucking accountable? How? The only ones who do that are elected officials a citizen tries it and their eating a bullet. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:896897075] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>The police aren't required to protect citizens by law and the police see each other as brothers and sisters so it makes sense they're prioritizing him over the people he injured and killed, I mean you'd be more worried about your brother or sister over strangers,too wouldn't you? It ain't right but what else can we do?</quote> Hold them fucking accountable?</quote> How? The only ones who do that are elected officials a citizen tries it and their eating a bullet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 02/27/18 9:35:16 PM #34:	Darklit_Minuet posted... The Admiral posted... Liberals love unions, but when they actually protect their union members in situations like this, suddenly they're no good. Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members. I'd be all in favor of unions that fought for better working conditions or more vacation days, but not defending those who broke the law or killed people. Most other unions don't defend killers, which is why most of us have no issues whatsoever with most other unions Please don't bother responding to low tier trolls. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . On the quest to 99 WC. Currently at 98. <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:896897106] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals love unions, but when they actually protect their union members in situations like this, suddenly they're no good. </quote> Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members. I'd be all in favor of unions that fought for better working conditions or more vacation days, but not defending those who broke the law or killed people. Most other unions don't defend killers, which is why most of us have no issues whatsoever with most other unions</quote> Please don't bother responding to low tier trolls.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alexanaxela 02/27/18 9:36:07 PM #35:	so the mother of the baby that the guy killed is arrested and the guy that was going 94 and caused the crash is on paid leave coolio --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. <cite>Alexanaxela posted [p:896897153] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>so the mother of the baby that the guy killed is arrested and the guy that was going 94 and caused the crash is on paid leave coolio</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 02/27/18 9:36:53 PM #36:	The Admiral posted... Darklit_Minuet posted... Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members. You seem highly confused about what unions actually do. Protecting their members from being summarily fired is one of their highest priorities. These "paid vacations" exist because that's what unions do. Then this shouldn't be what unions do. Only fight for the collective rights of their members, not defend killers. If police unions didn't defend killers, I would have zero problem whatsoever with them, and hold them in as high regards as I do any other union. That's the difference there. <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:896897196] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>Almost like we can love unions without loving them defending bad members.</quote> You seem highly confused about what unions actually do. Protecting their members from being summarily fired is one of their highest priorities. These "paid vacations" exist because that's what unions do.</quote> Then this shouldn't be what unions do. Only fight for the collective rights of their members, not defend killers. If police unions didn't defend killers, I would have zero problem whatsoever with them, and hold them in as high regards as I do any other union. That's the difference there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daftpunk_mk5 02/27/18 9:39:07 PM #39:	thronedfire2 posted... 8 people in a nissan? yeah that's unsafe A pathfinder can seat 8 --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:896897322] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>8 people in a nissan? yeah that's unsafe</quote> A pathfinder can seat 8</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/27/18 9:40:00 PM #40:	Alexanaxela posted... so the mother of the baby that the guy killed is arrested and the guy that was going 94 and caused the crash is on paid leave coolio Not sure what's so confusing here. The cop was arrested for negligent homicide. The mother -- who did not properly fasten the child's seat, which caused the death during the accident -- was also arrested. She is not absolved of her negligence just because someone else was also negligent. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:896897364] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alexanaxela posted...</cite> <quote>so the mother of the baby that the guy killed is arrested and the guy that was going 94 and caused the crash is on paid leave coolio</quote> Not sure what's so confusing here. The cop was arrested for negligent homicide. The mother -- who did not properly fasten the child's seat, which caused the death during the accident -- was also arrested. She is not absolved of her negligence just because someone else was also negligent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Schwarber 02/27/18 9:41:23 PM #42:	The Admiral posted... Liberals --- http://i.imgur.com/iQXgYOx.gif http://i.imgur.com/l3frhSF.gif http://i.imgur.com/HM1Hjby.gif https://i.imgur.com/bvsFH0H.jpg - drawn by Yaridovich <cite>Schwarber posted [p:896897435] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 02/27/18 9:42:49 PM #43:	27_Sandman_40 posted... I feel like if a cop wasnt involved the mother never would have been charged. The mother would definitely be charged if her daughter was killed in an accident and she had failed to properly fasten the seat as she's legally required to. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:896897510] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>27_Sandman_40 posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like if a cop wasnt involved the mother never would have been charged.</quote> The mother would definitely be charged if her daughter was killed in an accident and she had failed to properly fasten the seat as she's legally required to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/27/18 9:45:20 PM #44:	The Admiral posted... 27_Sandman_40 posted... I feel like if a cop wasnt involved the mother never would have been charged. The mother would definitely be charged if her daughter was killed in an accident and she had failed to properly fasten the seat as she's legally required to. A child seat has never come unfastened ever coming into collision with a 94 MPH vehicle while it's vehicle itself was likely at high velocity --- https://i.imgur.com/tviNQV5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SJT9tyG.png <cite>Doe posted [p:896897653] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>27_Sandman_40 posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like if a cop wasnt involved the mother never would have been charged.</quote> The mother would definitely be charged if her daughter was killed in an accident and she had failed to properly fasten the seat as she's legally required to.</quote> A child seat has never come unfastened ever coming into collision with a 94 MPH vehicle while it's vehicle itself was likely at high velocity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 02/27/18 9:46:23 PM #45:	27_Sandman_40 posted... I feel like if a cop wasnt involved the mother never would have been charged. I think you're right. --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:896897711] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>27_Sandman_40 posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like if a cop wasnt involved the mother never would have been charged.</quote> I think you're right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fuzzylittlbunny 02/27/18 9:48:39 PM #46:	Every side was wrong. Cop was speeding, civilian didn't secure child properly, another civilian was driving without a license, another civilian let said civilian use their car, and basically everyone had "seatbelt violations". --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya high five! <cite>fuzzylittlbunny posted [p:896897833] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote>Every side was wrong. Cop was speeding, civilian didn't secure child properly, another civilian was driving without a license, another civilian let said civilian use their car, and basically everyone had "seatbelt violations".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 02/27/18 9:50:40 PM #48:	fuzzylittlbunny posted... Every side was wrong. Cop was speeding, civilian didn't secure child properly, another civilian was driving without a license, another civilian let said civilian use their car, and basically everyone had "seatbelt violations". And yet none of this would have happened of one side wasn't driving well over this speed limit, running red lights and was actually paying attention and driving safely..Curiously that side seems to be facing the least/no punishment at all here....go figure! --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896897946] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>fuzzylittlbunny posted...</cite> <quote>Every side was wrong. Cop was speeding, civilian didn't secure child properly, another civilian was driving without a license, another civilian let said civilian use their car, and basically everyone had "seatbelt violations".</quote> And yet none of this would have happened of one side wasn't driving well over this speed limit, running red lights and was actually paying attention and driving safely..Curiously that side seems to be facing the least/no punishment at all here....go figure!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fuzzylittlbunny 02/27/18 9:52:03 PM #49:	TheVipaGTS posted... fuzzylittlbunny posted... Every side was wrong. Cop was speeding, civilian didn't secure child properly, another civilian was driving without a license, another civilian let said civilian use their car, and basically everyone had "seatbelt violations". And yet none of this would have happened of one side wasn't driving well over this speed limit, running red lights and was actually paying attention and driving safely..Curiously that side seems to be face the least/no punishment at all here....go figure! Ye response, kind sir? --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya high five! <cite>fuzzylittlbunny posted [p:896898014] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fuzzylittlbunny posted...</cite> <quote>Every side was wrong. Cop was speeding, civilian didn't secure child properly, another civilian was driving without a license, another civilian let said civilian use their car, and basically everyone had "seatbelt violations".</quote> And yet none of this would have happened of one side wasn't driving well over this speed limit, running red lights and was actually paying attention and driving safely..Curiously that side seems to be face the least/no punishment at all here....go figure!</quote> Ye response, kind sir?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 02/27/18 9:52:56 PM #51:	fuzzylittlbunny posted... Ye response, kind sir? They are in the wrong. But again, what accident did they cause? that is what this story is about. The Accident and the fact that the person who caused it, and a death, due to reckless driving isn't facing consequences while any one of us would be...Stop trying to deflect.... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896898061] in Off-duty c... [t:76364879]...</cite> <quote><cite>fuzzylittlbunny posted...</cite> <quote>Ye response, kind sir? </quote> They are in the wrong. But again, what accident did they cause? that is what this story is about. The Accident and the fact that the person who caused it, and a death, due to reckless driving isn't facing consequences while any one of us would be...Stop trying to deflect....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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