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Antifar 03/02/18 1:59:48 PM #1:	https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-was-angry-unglued-when-he-started-trade-war-officials-n852641 With global markets shaken by President Donald Trump's surprise decision to impose strict tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, the president went into battle mode on Friday: "Trade wars are good, and easy to win," he wrote on Twitter. But the public show of confidence belies the fact that Trump's policy maneuver, which may ultimately harm U.S. companies and American consumers, was announced without any internal review by government lawyers or his own staff, according to a review of an internal White House document. According to two officials, Trump's decision to launch a potential trade war was born out of anger at other simmering issues and the result of a broken internal process that has failed to deliver him consensus views that represent the best advice of his team. On Wednesday evening, the president became "unglued," in the words of one official familiar with the president's state of mind. A trifecta of events had set him off in a way that two officials said they had not seen before: Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election, conduct by his embattled attorney general and the treatment of his son-in-law by his chief of staff. Trump, the two officials said, was angry and gunning for a fight, and he chose a trade war, spurred on by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and Peter Navarro, the White House director for trade. Ross had already invited steel and aluminum executives to the White House for an 11 a.m. meeting on Thursday. But Ross, according to a person with direct knowledge, hadn't told the White House who the executives were. As a result, White House officials were unable to conduct a background check on the executives to make sure they were appropriate for the president to meet with and they were not able to be cleared for entry by secret service. According to a person with direct knowledge, even White House chief of staff John Kelly was unaware of their names. By midnight Wednesday, less than 12 hours before the executives were expected to arrive, no one on the president's team had prepared any position paper for an announcement on tariff policy, the official said. In fact, according to the official, the White House counsel's office had advised that they were as much as two weeks away from being able to complete a legal review on steel tariffs. In response to NBC News, another White House official said that the communications team "was well-prepared to support the president's announcement" and that "many of the attendees had been in the White House before and had already been vetted for attendance at a presidential event." A different official said of the decision, "everyone in the world has known where the president's head was on this issue since the beginning of his administration." There were no prepared, approved remarks for the president to give at the planned meeting, there was no diplomatic strategy for how to alert foreign trade partners, there was no legislative strategy in place for informing Congress and no agreed upon communications plan beyond an email cobbled together by Ross's team at the Commerce Department late Wednesday that had not been approved by the White House. No one at the State Department, the Treasury Department or the Defense Department had been told that a new policy was about to be announced or given an opportunity to weigh in in advance. The Thursday morning meeting did not originally appear on the president's public schedule. Shortly after it began, reporters were told that Ross had convened a "listening" session at the White House with 15 executives from the steel and aluminum industry. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:897054952] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-was-angry-unglued-when-he-started-trade-war-officials-n852641 <quote> With global markets shaken by President Donald Trump's surprise decision to impose strict tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, the president went into battle mode on Friday: "Trade wars are good, and easy to win," he wrote on Twitter. But the public show of confidence belies the fact that Trump's policy maneuver, which may ultimately harm U.S. companies and American consumers, was announced without any internal review by government lawyers or his own staff, according to a review of an internal White House document. According to two officials, Trump's decision to launch a potential trade war was born out of anger at other simmering issues and the result of a broken internal process that has failed to deliver him consensus views that represent the best advice of his team. On Wednesday evening, the president became "unglued," in the words of one official familiar with the president's state of mind. A trifecta of events had set him off in a way that two officials said they had not seen before: Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election, conduct by his embattled attorney general and the treatment of his son-in-law by his chief of staff. Trump, the two officials said, was angry and gunning for a fight, and he chose a trade war, spurred on by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and Peter Navarro, the White House director for trade. Ross had already invited steel and aluminum executives to the White House for an 11 a.m. meeting on Thursday. But Ross, according to a person with direct knowledge, hadn't told the White House who the executives were. As a result, White House officials were unable to conduct a background check on the executives to make sure they were appropriate for the president to meet with and they were not able to be cleared for entry by secret service. According to a person with direct knowledge, even White House chief of staff John Kelly was unaware of their names. By midnight Wednesday, less than 12 hours before the executives were expected to arrive, no one on the president's team had prepared any position paper for an announcement on tariff policy, the official said. In fact, according to the official, the White House counsel's office had advised that they were as much as two weeks away from being able to complete a legal review on steel tariffs. In response to NBC News, another White House official said that the communications team "was well-prepared to support the president's announcement" and that "many of the attendees had been in the White House before and had already been vetted for attendance at a presidential event." A different official said of the decision, "everyone in the world has known where the president's head was on this issue since the beginning of his administration." There were no prepared, approved remarks for the president to give at the planned meeting, there was no diplomatic strategy for how to alert foreign trade partners, there was no legislative strategy in place for informing Congress and no agreed upon communications plan beyond an email cobbled together by Ross's team at the Commerce Department late Wednesday that had not been approved by the White House. No one at the State Department, the Treasury Department or the Defense Department had been told that a new policy was about to be announced or given an opportunity to weigh in in advance. The Thursday morning meeting did not originally appear on the president's public schedule. Shortly after it began, reporters were told that Ross had convened a "listening" session at the White House with 15 executives from the steel and aluminum industry.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 03/02/18 2:03:24 PM #2:	So this is how you run a company... --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:897055132] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>So this is how you run a company...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 03/02/18 2:04:08 PM #3:	But remember he has the best temperament. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:897055153] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>But remember he has the best temperament.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 03/02/18 2:04:45 PM #4:	So, specifically because he was mad he wasn't getting his way? --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:897055187] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>So, specifically because he was mad he wasn't getting his way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeonesAlt 03/02/18 2:06:09 PM #5:	Shithouse of Cards --- But Whose? <cite>SomeonesAlt posted [p:897055244] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Shithouse of Cards</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/02/18 2:06:49 PM #6:	Better than Hillary starting real wars in; Libya Syria Egypt ~~I'm just shit posting don't take my post serious.~~ --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:897055281] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Better than Hillary starting real wars in; Libya Syria Egypt I'm just shit posting don't take my post serious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 03/02/18 2:08:22 PM #7:	im glad he's tanking the economy and dismantling our relationships with allies because he's a pouty man child. haha bet teh liherals will be so triggered at this though xDDD --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg <cite>metralo posted [p:897055352] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>im glad he's tanking the economy and dismantling our relationships with allies because he's a pouty man child. haha bet teh liherals will be so triggered at this though xDDD</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidWong 03/02/18 2:08:28 PM #8:	Protectionism never works and is a step in the wrong direction --- Nice guy? I don't give a s*. Good father? F* you! Go home and play with your kids. If you want to work here, close! <cite>DavidWong posted [p:897055359] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Protectionism never works and is a step in the wrong direction</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 03/02/18 2:09:40 PM #9:	Couldn't we have given him a pillow to punch or a pageant to ruin? --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:897055423] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Couldn't we have given him a pillow to punch or a pageant to ruin?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeonesAlt 03/02/18 2:13:20 PM #10:	Taken from 261 https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/969629745192333312 https://twitter.com/NotEricWagner/status/969641683687231488 Jim Sciutto @jimsciutto New: EU is preparing to impose tariffs on Harley-Davidson motorbikes, bourbon whiskey & Levi's jeans in retaliation for Trumps planned tariffs on steel and aluminium imports -European Commission Eric Wagner @NotEricWagner These industries are specifically located within Majority Leader McConnell and Speaker Ryan's districts. They're trying to force Congress to call votes on an override of Trump's new tariffs. Smart The Trade Wars have begun --- But Whose? <cite>SomeonesAlt posted [p:897055621] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Taken from 261 https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/969629745192333312 https://twitter.com/NotEricWagner/status/969641683687231488 Jim Sciutto @jimsciutto New: EU is preparing to impose tariffs on Harley-Davidson motorbikes, bourbon whiskey & Levi's jeans in retaliation for Trumps planned tariffs on steel and aluminium imports -European Commission Eric Wagner @NotEricWagner These industries are specifically located within Majority Leader McConnell and Speaker Ryan's districts. They're trying to force Congress to call votes on an override of Trump's new tariffs. Smart The Trade Wars have begun</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 03/02/18 2:15:58 PM #11:	SomeonesAlt posted... The Trade Wars have begun --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:897055762] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote>The Trade Wars have begun</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeonesAlt 03/02/18 2:22:42 PM #12:	CyricZ posted... SomeonesAlt posted... The Trade Wars have begun Damnit, "Begun, these Trade Wars have" would have sounded so much better. Missed opportunities :P --- But Whose? <cite>SomeonesAlt posted [p:897056089] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote>The Trade Wars have begun</quote> </quote> Damnit, "Begun, these Trade Wars have" would have sounded so much better. Missed opportunities :P</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 03/02/18 2:23:47 PM #13:	Well this is shitty --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:897056142] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Well this is shitty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 03/02/18 2:25:12 PM #14:	SomeonesAlt posted... Eric Wagner @NotEricWagner These industries are specifically located within Majority Leader McConnell and Speaker Ryan's districts. They're trying to force Congress to call votes on an override of Trump's new tariffs. Smart hopefully it works --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:897056219] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote>Eric Wagner @NotEricWagner These industries are specifically located within Majority Leader McConnell and Speaker Ryan's districts. They're trying to force Congress to call votes on an override of Trump's new tariffs. Smart</quote> hopefully it works</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 03/02/18 2:27:09 PM #15:	How long does it take a shut down steel plant back up and running? I'm guessing its long enough that this totally fucks over construction and manufacturing segments. --- http://i.imgur.com/O3syCWD.gif http://i.imgur.com/k3YiBdG.gif <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:897056306] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>How long does it take a shut down steel plant back up and running? I'm guessing its long enough that this totally fucks over construction and manufacturing segments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 03/02/18 2:33:03 PM #16:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production US produces 81.6M metric tons of steel per year https://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/imports-us.pdf we import 26.9M metric tons of steel per year. China produces 831.7M metric tons per year. So it will be a long, long time before we can compete with them I would think. We will be spending a ton of money for just a handful of jobs. --- http://i.imgur.com/O3syCWD.gif http://i.imgur.com/k3YiBdG.gif <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:897056590] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_steel_production US produces 81.6M metric tons of steel per year https://www.trade.gov/steel/countries/pdfs/imports-us.pdf we import 26.9M metric tons of steel per year. China produces 831.7M metric tons per year. So it will be a long, long time before we can compete with them I would think. We will be spending a ton of money for just a handful of jobs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 03/02/18 2:34:38 PM #17:	Apparently this screwed us last time https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_United_States_steel_tariff --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill <cite>Squall28 posted [p:897056671] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Apparently this screwed us last time https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_United_States_steel_tariff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 03/02/18 2:34:46 PM #18:	At least we didn't elect a woman, she would have started a new war every month am I right! --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom http://i.imgur.com/9gYddqW.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:897056683] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>At least we didn't elect a woman, she would have started a new war every month am I right!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 03/02/18 2:37:49 PM #19:	CyricZ posted... SomeonesAlt posted... The Trade Wars have begun Since we are having trade wars. Maybe a group or committee should be formed. Like a federation of trade. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:897056837] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote>The Trade Wars have begun</quote> </quote> Since we are having trade wars. Maybe a group or committee should be formed. Like a federation of trade.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 03/02/18 2:38:06 PM #20:	full idiocracy --- http://i.imgtc.com/qieELu9.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:897056852] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>full idiocracy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 03/02/18 2:39:14 PM #21:	I think it might be time to euthanize him --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:897056913] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>I think it might be time to euthanize him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 03/02/18 2:40:21 PM #22:	Antifar posted... But the public show of confidence belies the fact that Trump's policy maneuver, which may ultimately harm U.S. companies and American consumers, was announced without any internal review by government lawyers or his own staff, according to a review of an internal White House document. SMH of course it was <cite>Axiom posted [p:897056966] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>But the public show of confidence belies the fact that Trump's policy maneuver, which may ultimately harm U.S. companies and American consumers, was announced without any internal review by government lawyers or his own staff, according to a review of an internal White House document.</quote> SMH of course it was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/02/18 2:41:33 PM #23:	KILBOTz posted... China produces 831.7M metric tons per year. So it will be a long, long time before we can compete with them I would think. We will be spending a ton of money for just a handful of jobs. We'll be screwing over countless other industries, just to protect a handful of jobs. Everything that has steel or aluminum in it just got more expensive, or possibly outsourced. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:897057030] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>China produces 831.7M metric tons per year. So it will be a long, long time before we can compete with them I would think. We will be spending a ton of money for just a handful of jobs.</quote> We'll be screwing over countless other industries, just to protect a handful of jobs. Everything that has steel or aluminum in it just got more expensive, or possibly outsourced.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 03/02/18 2:42:36 PM #24:	Southernfatman posted... CyricZ posted... SomeonesAlt posted... The Trade Wars have begun Since we are having trade wars. Maybe a group or committee should be formed. Like a federation of trade. Its all fun and games until some idiot senator from a back water swamp state proposes we give emergency powers to the President. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom http://i.imgur.com/9gYddqW.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:897057089] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote>The Trade Wars have begun</quote> </quote> Since we are having trade wars. Maybe a group or committee should be formed. Like a federation of trade.</quote> Its all fun and games until some idiot senator from a back water swamp state proposes we give emergency powers to the President.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeonesAlt 03/02/18 2:43:36 PM #25:	Reuters Politics @ReutersPolitics JUST IN: Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker asks Trump to reconsider position on steel, aluminum tariffs Walker already caving. No one wants the Great Trump Trade War --- But Whose? <cite>SomeonesAlt posted [p:897057153] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><quote>Reuters Politics @ReutersPolitics JUST IN: Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker asks Trump to reconsider position on steel, aluminum tariffs</quote> Walker already caving. No one wants the Great Trump Trade War</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/02/18 2:45:25 PM #26:	Were_Wyrm posted... At least we didn't elect a woman, she would have started a new war every month am I right! Hillary doesn't have cycles anymore. She's just always mad. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:897057265] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Were_Wyrm posted...</cite> <quote>At least we didn't elect a woman, she would have started a new war every month am I right!</quote> Hillary doesn't have cycles anymore. She's just always mad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 03/02/18 2:47:01 PM #27:	SomeonesAlt posted... Walker already caving. No one wants the Great Trump Trade War nice --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:897057345] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote>Walker already caving. No one wants the Great Trump Trade War </quote> nice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 03/02/18 2:49:37 PM #28:	Cant wait to pay $10,000 for a washing machine --- Jake Peralta: World's Grossest Pervert <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:897057490] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Cant wait to pay $10,000 for a washing machine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/02/18 2:49:55 PM #29:	Mark Levin had an epic rant on his radio show yesterday. KiwiTerraRizing posted... Cant wait to pay $10,000 for a washing machine If anything, it'll be made of magnesium instead. Possibly plastic. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:897057505] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Mark Levin had an epic rant on his radio show yesterday. <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted...</cite> <quote>Cant wait to pay $10,000 for a washing machine</quote> If anything, it'll be made of magnesium instead. Possibly plastic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 03/02/18 2:53:40 PM #30:	Keep in mind, you're not hurting China much: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-steel-tariffs-to-hit-these-8-countries-the-hardest-china-is-not-one-of-them-2018-03-01 --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:897057685] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind, you're not hurting China much: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-steel-tariffs-to-hit-these-8-countries-the-hardest-china-is-not-one-of-them-2018-03-01</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/02/18 2:54:26 PM #31:	Questionmarktarius posted... Mark Levin had an epic rant on his radio show yesterday. KiwiTerraRizing posted... Cant wait to pay $10,000 for a washing machine If anything, it'll be made of magnesium instead. Possibly plastic. How does a 30% tariff translate to 10-20 times the cost? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:897057724] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Mark Levin had an epic rant on his radio show yesterday. <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted...</cite> <quote>Cant wait to pay $10,000 for a washing machine</quote> If anything, it'll be made of magnesium instead. Possibly plastic.</quote> How does a 30% tariff translate to 10-20 times the cost?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chad-Henne 03/02/18 2:56:33 PM #32:	Literally a 70 year old toddler --- http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1759573/hennelol2.gif http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1303533/hennefight_medium.gif <cite>Chad-Henne posted [p:897057830] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>Literally a 70 year old toddler</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 03/02/18 2:57:28 PM #33:	Were_Wyrm posted... Southernfatman posted... CyricZ posted... SomeonesAlt posted... The Trade Wars have begun Since we are having trade wars. Maybe a group or committee should be formed. Like a federation of trade. Its all fun and games until some idiot senator from a back water swamp state proposes we give emergency powers to the President. Lmao --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:897057894] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Were_Wyrm posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote>The Trade Wars have begun</quote> </quote> Since we are having trade wars. Maybe a group or committee should be formed. Like a federation of trade.</quote> Its all fun and games until some idiot senator from a back water swamp state proposes we give emergency powers to the President.</quote> Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/02/18 2:58:04 PM #34:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... How does a 30% tariff translate to 10-20 times the cost? The awesome power of hyperbole. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:897057924] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>How does a 30% tariff translate to 10-20 times the cost?</quote> The awesome power of hyperbole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/02/18 2:59:58 PM #35:	Questionmarktarius posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... How does a 30% tariff translate to 10-20 times the cost? The awesome power of hyperbole. Well that doesn't help anything. Isn't that the same tactic republicans use when whining about a min wage increase? --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:897058012] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>How does a 30% tariff translate to 10-20 times the cost?</quote> The awesome power of hyperbole.</quote> Well that doesn't help anything. Isn't that the same tactic republicans use when whining about a min wage increase?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/02/18 3:01:10 PM #36:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Questionmarktarius posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... How does a 30% tariff translate to 10-20 times the cost? The awesome power of hyperbole. Well that doesn't help anything. Isn't that the same tactic republicans use when whining about a min wage increase? Never underestimate the power of hyperbole. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:897058089] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>How does a 30% tariff translate to 10-20 times the cost?</quote> The awesome power of hyperbole.</quote> Well that doesn't help anything. Isn't that the same tactic republicans use when whining about a min wage increase?</quote> Never underestimate the power of hyperbole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
twitterfriends 03/02/18 3:01:14 PM #37:	God damn it no wonder our economy is starting to tank. --- #NotMyPresident #JusticeDemocrats #Neblio #WolfPAC #Bitcoin #WeAre12 #12thMan #Seahawks #Belieber #DENT #UBI #PokemonGo #twitterfriends #MMA #PopularHashtags <cite>twitterfriends posted [p:897058091] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>God damn it no wonder our economy is starting to tank.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 03/02/18 3:01:36 PM #38:	Sir Will posted... Keep in mind, you're not hurting China much: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-steel-tariffs-to-hit-these-8-countries-the-hardest-china-is-not-one-of-them-2018-03-01 Aren't Canada and Mexico exempt from the tariff due to NAFTA penalties? I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though. --- http://i.imgur.com/O3syCWD.gif http://i.imgur.com/k3YiBdG.gif <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:897058106] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind, you're not hurting China much: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-steel-tariffs-to-hit-these-8-countries-the-hardest-china-is-not-one-of-them-2018-03-01</quote> Aren't Canada and Mexico exempt from the tariff due to NAFTA penalties? I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/02/18 3:03:12 PM #39:	KILBOTz posted... I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though. I'd also guess that this only applies to steel and aluminum as raw materials, meaning that "$10000 washing machine" is going to end up being a "$250 washing machine", made entirely in China, while the last handful of washing machine jobs in the US quietly relocate to Mexico (to be made of Chinese steel anyway). <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:897058184] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though.</quote> I'd also guess that this only applies to steel and aluminum as raw materials, meaning that "$10000 washing machine" is going to end up being a "$250 washing machine", made entirely in China, while the last handful of washing machine jobs in the US quietly relocate to Mexico (to be made of Chinese steel anyway).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 03/02/18 3:04:46 PM #40:	Questionmarktarius posted... KILBOTz posted... I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though. I'd also guess that this only applies to steel and aluminum as raw materials, meaning that "$10000 washing machine" is going to end up being a "$250 washing machine", made entirely in China, while the last handful of washing machine jobs in the US quietly relocate to Mexico (to be made of Chinese steel anyway). I mean you wouldn't want those BMWs and Audis to be more expensive for your friends on Wall Street. --- http://i.imgur.com/O3syCWD.gif http://i.imgur.com/k3YiBdG.gif <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:897058266] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though.</quote> I'd also guess that this only applies to steel and aluminum as raw materials, meaning that "$10000 washing machine" is going to end up being a "$250 washing machine", made entirely in China, while the last handful of washing machine jobs in the US quietly relocate to Mexico (to be made of Chinese steel anyway).</quote> I mean you wouldn't want those BMWs and Audis to be more expensive for your friends on Wall Street.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir Will 03/02/18 3:05:20 PM #42:	KILBOTz posted... Sir Will posted... Keep in mind, you're not hurting China much: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-steel-tariffs-to-hit-these-8-countries-the-hardest-china-is-not-one-of-them-2018-03-01 Aren't Canada and Mexico exempt from the tariff due to NAFTA penalties? I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though. IIRC, Trump is using emergency national security provisions that can't have exemptions. But I may have heard wrong. And despite NAFTA it's not the first tariff Trump has put on Canadian stuff. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:897058288] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind, you're not hurting China much: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-steel-tariffs-to-hit-these-8-countries-the-hardest-china-is-not-one-of-them-2018-03-01</quote> Aren't Canada and Mexico exempt from the tariff due to NAFTA penalties? I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though.</quote> IIRC, Trump is using emergency national security provisions that can't have exemptions. But I may have heard wrong. And despite NAFTA it's not the first tariff Trump has put on Canadian stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 03/02/18 3:06:47 PM #43:	KILBOTz posted... Aren't Canada and Mexico exempt from the tariff due to NAFTA penalties? I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though. Trump has openly railed against NAFTA at every opportunity. He likely doesn't care what NAFTA allows him to do, especially since this whole decision was just him trying to assert his dominance over something he doesn't understand. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:897058358] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>KILBOTz posted...</cite> <quote>Aren't Canada and Mexico exempt from the tariff due to NAFTA penalties? I'm guessing the Trump administration hasn't looked that far ahead though.</quote> Trump has openly railed against NAFTA at every opportunity. He likely doesn't care what NAFTA allows him to do, especially since this whole decision was just him trying to assert his dominance over something he doesn't understand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 03/02/18 3:08:30 PM #44:	this is hilarious. for decades, sexist people said "no woman should be president, she'd be too emotional". now here we are, with the orange snowflake fucking up the economy cuz feelingz. --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:897058443] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>this is hilarious. for decades, sexist people said "no woman should be president, she'd be too emotional". now here we are, with the orange snowflake fucking up the economy cuz feelingz.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/02/18 3:11:03 PM #45:	Antifar posted... set him off in a way that two officials said they had not seen before: Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election Hmmm --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:897058571] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>set him off in a way that two officials said they had not seen before: Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election</quote> Hmmm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 03/02/18 3:13:07 PM #46:	Doom_Art posted... Antifar posted... set him off in a way that two officials said they had not seen before: Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election Hmmm Specifically, he's mad because she admitted to telling "white lies" for Trump. He reportedly berated her being an "idiot". --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:897058673] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>set him off in a way that two officials said they had not seen before: Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election</quote> Hmmm</quote> Specifically, he's mad because she admitted to telling "white lies" for Trump. He reportedly berated her being an "idiot".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 03/02/18 3:13:40 PM #47:	markets decided he's full of shit --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:897058712] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>markets decided he's full of shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/02/18 3:14:13 PM #48:	BLAKUboy posted... Specifically, he's mad because she admitted to telling "white lies" for Trump. He reportedly berated her being an "idiot". To be fair that is a really stupid thing to say while being questioned. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:897058742] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>Specifically, he's mad because she admitted to telling "white lies" for Trump. He reportedly berated her being an "idiot". </quote> To be fair that is a really stupid thing to say while being questioned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ProfessorKukui 03/02/18 3:14:23 PM #49:	I for one welcome the inevitable nuclear cleansing. The sooner the better. <cite>ProfessorKukui posted [p:897058752] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote>I for one welcome the inevitable nuclear cleansing. The sooner the better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 03/02/18 3:15:57 PM #50:	Doom_Art posted... To be fair that is a really stupid thing to say while being questioned. It'd be even more stupid to perjure herself. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera http://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:897058843] in Trump deci... [t:76373968]...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>To be fair that is a really stupid thing to say while being questioned.</quote> It'd be even more stupid to perjure herself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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