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CruelBuffalo 03/09/18 10:02:18 PM #1:	Is that it? <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:897508305] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>Is that it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 03/09/18 10:02:55 PM #2:	Anything to take the blame off real guns. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:897508331] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>Anything to take the blame off real guns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/09/18 10:03:07 PM #3:	I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897508343] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 03/09/18 10:03:48 PM #4:	s0nicfan posted... I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this. What was incorrect about it? <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:897508370] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this.</quote> What was incorrect about it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/09/18 10:04:14 PM #5:	CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this. What was incorrect about it? I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897508391] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this.</quote> What was incorrect about it?</quote> I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 03/10/18 12:21:50 AM #6:	s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this. What was incorrect about it? I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to? Please <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:897515144] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this.</quote> What was incorrect about it?</quote> I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to?</quote> Please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/10/18 12:43:06 AM #7:	CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this. What was incorrect about it? I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to? Please They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897516068] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this.</quote> What was incorrect about it?</quote> I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to?</quote> Please</quote> They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 03/10/18 4:20:26 AM #8:	s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this. What was incorrect about it? I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to? Please They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends. So target practice is coo? <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:897522206] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this.</quote> What was incorrect about it?</quote> I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to?</quote> Please</quote> They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends.</quote> So target practice is coo?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 03/10/18 4:24:07 AM #9:	CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this. What was incorrect about it? I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to? Please They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends. So target practice is coo? What about people who actually hunt and kill animals every year? Does that give them a taste for blood? BAN DEER!! --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:897522276] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this.</quote> What was incorrect about it?</quote> I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to?</quote> Please</quote> They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends.</quote> So target practice is coo?</quote> What about people who actually hunt and kill animals every year? Does that give them a taste for blood? BAN DEER!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 03/10/18 7:07:35 AM #10:	no. the NRA knows its bullshit. its used as a deflection tactic. <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:897525390] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>no. the NRA knows its bullshit. its used as a deflection tactic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 03/10/18 7:12:47 AM #11:	NRA just pulled their shooting game from Apples store, I wonder why... --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:897525500] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>NRA just pulled their shooting game from Apples store, I wonder why...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 03/10/18 7:15:12 AM #12:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... What about people who actually hunt and kill animals every year? Does that give them a taste for blood? BAN DEER!! Yes. Ban Hunting and shooting practise ranges. All that does is teach people to THIRST for firing a gun, if we believe games do that as well. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:897525553] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote>What about people who actually hunt and kill animals every year? Does that give them a taste for blood? BAN DEER!! </quote> Yes. Ban Hunting and shooting practise ranges. All that does is teach people to THIRST for firing a gun, if we believe games do that as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 03/10/18 7:34:19 AM #13:	s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this. What was incorrect about it? I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to? Please They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends. And this changes what about the tc statement? Its still saying the virtual gun is a bigger danger than the physical one. Its still moving the blame to game as the bigger threat. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:897525960] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this.</quote> What was incorrect about it?</quote> I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to?</quote> Please</quote> They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends.</quote> And this changes what about the tc statement? Its still saying the virtual gun is a bigger danger than the physical one. Its still moving the blame to game as the bigger threat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 03/10/18 7:37:41 AM #14:	Post a link where the NRA says this <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:897526028] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>Post a link where the NRA says this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/10/18 7:55:10 AM #15:	CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... CruelBuffalo posted... s0nicfan posted... I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this. What was incorrect about it? I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to? Please They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends. So target practice is coo? I suspect it is, because targets don't react like people in games do. They argue it's the desensitization of killing virtual people that run, scream, bleed, and die leaving corpses behind that makes it easier to be a mass murderer. Shooting a static target makes you a better shot but doesn't make you used to murder. Countering their argument with the hunting example would actually be the more effective argument bit they could argue volume matters more. You can kill more people in an hour in GTA than most hunters will kill animals in a lifetime. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897526388] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I fully support more restrictive gun laws, but you're making yourself look stupid by posting this.</quote> What was incorrect about it?</quote> I'll explain it to you if you really need me to explain it to you. Do you need me to?</quote> Please</quote> They are making the mental health argument. They are trying to claim that it isn't the gun that is the problem, but the repetitive violent actions that leads to Violent people. That is why they will make claims like owning a gun is fine, but simulated murder is not. Because the gun itself doesn't turn people into murderers, but killing people all the time in games does. To quote Westworld, these violent Delights have violent ends.</quote> So target practice is coo?</quote> I suspect it is, because targets don't react like people in games do. They argue it's the desensitization of killing virtual people that run, scream, bleed, and die leaving corpses behind that makes it easier to be a mass murderer. Shooting a static target makes you a better shot but doesn't make you used to murder. Countering their argument with the hunting example would actually be the more effective argument bit they could argue volume matters more. You can kill more people in an hour in GTA than most hunters will kill animals in a lifetime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 03/10/18 8:06:12 AM #16:	s0nicfan posted... Countering their argument with the hunting example would actually be the more effective argument bit they could argue volume matters more. You can kill more people in an hour in GTA than most hunters will kill animals in a lifetime obvious counter is you are actually killing a real and living thing over some virtual information though, no? And all the studies that disprove the theory that "games are to blame" --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:897526618] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Countering their argument with the hunting example would actually be the more effective argument bit they could argue volume matters more. You can kill more people in an hour in GTA than most hunters will kill animals in a lifetime</quote> obvious counter is you are actually killing a real and living thing over some virtual information though, no? And all the studies that disprove the theory that "games are to blame"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 03/10/18 8:11:03 AM #17:	To be fair those studies were bought by game lobbyists --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://i.imgur.com/xKI9rbb.jpg <cite>50Blessings posted [p:897526716] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>To be fair those studies were bought by game lobbyists</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 03/10/18 8:19:22 AM #18:	RoboLaserGandhi posted... Post a link where the NRA says this <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:897526920] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted...</cite> <quote>Post a link where the NRA says this</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lww99 03/10/18 8:25:38 AM #19:	Don't go after real guns, go after digital guns! --- http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h239/nhottbarbwire/owningroad_zps2333f502.gif <cite>lww99 posted [p:897527088] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>Don't go after real guns, go after digital guns!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/10/18 11:39:09 AM #20:	Funkydog posted... s0nicfan posted... Countering their argument with the hunting example would actually be the more effective argument bit they could argue volume matters more. You can kill more people in an hour in GTA than most hunters will kill animals in a lifetime obvious counter is you are actually killing a real and living thing over some virtual information though, no? And all the studies that disprove the theory that "games are to blame" I don't agree with their logic, but it's extremely obvious what it is so I struggle with how people like the TC fail to see it. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:897534088] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Countering their argument with the hunting example would actually be the more effective argument bit they could argue volume matters more. You can kill more people in an hour in GTA than most hunters will kill animals in a lifetime</quote> obvious counter is you are actually killing a real and living thing over some virtual information though, no? And all the studies that disprove the theory that "games are to blame"</quote> I don't agree with their logic, but it's extremely obvious what it is so I struggle with how people like the TC fail to see it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 03/10/18 11:46:40 AM #21:	If mental health is the real issue here, why do Republicans always try to make getting healthcare harder and more expensive? Also, what happened to free speech and the first amendment? Guess that doesn't count here either. We have a corporation and their bought politicians trying to keep the profits up for their partners (gun manufacturers) and rubes continue to go along with it. I wonder how much stock big-wig NRA members have in various gun manufacturers. Probably a lot. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:897534447] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>If mental health is the real issue here, why do Republicans always try to make getting healthcare harder and more expensive? Also, what happened to free speech and the first amendment? Guess that doesn't count here either. We have a corporation and their bought politicians trying to keep the profits up for their partners (gun manufacturers) and rubes continue to go along with it. I wonder how much stock big-wig NRA members have in various gun manufacturers. Probably a lot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MKScorpion 03/10/18 11:47:19 AM #22:	Phantom_Nook posted... Anything to take the blame off real guns. Pretty much this. Anything to deflect from the real issue no matter how little sense it makes. <cite>MKScorpion posted [p:897534491] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phantom_Nook posted...</cite> <quote>Anything to take the blame off real guns.</quote> Pretty much this. Anything to deflect from the real issue no matter how little sense it makes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcrasternus 03/10/18 11:51:09 AM #23:	It's interesting to watch some people so against regulating videogames but are all for blaming firearms, using the same arguments they sometimes stand against. Things like "It's the person that's violent already, videogames didn't make him evil," which is the same argument pro gun advocates make. It's the person, not the (inanimate object). Not saying anyone in this topic is doing it, but it's something I've noticed. --- http://i.imgtc.com/tUK3LwiHnb.jpg 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 "But not forgotten." <cite>Malcrasternus posted [p:897534698] in So is the ... [t:76399664]...</cite> <quote>It's interesting to watch some people so against regulating videogames but are all for blaming firearms, using the same arguments they sometimes stand against. Things like "It's the person that's violent already, videogames didn't make him evil," which is the same argument pro gun advocates make. It's the person, not the (inanimate object). Not saying anyone in this topic is doing it, but it's something I've noticed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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