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P4wn4g3
03/15/18 10:38:25 AM
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4.1 is ok.

I don't know what to believe anymore >_>
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Esrac
03/15/18 10:55:56 AM
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Who is they? And why not? Some homebrew shit?
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GodofLegend
03/15/18 10:57:24 AM
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Esrac posted...
Who is they? And why not?

This
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Blue_Inigo
03/15/18 10:59:00 AM
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Dont you have a WiiU?
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Ranting Nord
03/15/18 11:00:09 AM
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Esrac posted...
Who is they? And why not? Some homebrew shit?

I demand answers!
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voldothegr8
03/15/18 11:05:02 AM
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They were saying not to play SMO because the required update would ruin the chances. I argued there will be plenty of chances and there's no way I'm not playing the game I bought the system for. People scoffed. Looks like I was right.
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luigi13579
03/15/18 11:05:06 AM
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Supposedly they've upgraded their security against homebrew, so it's only really if you care about that.

Once installed you can't downgrade either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFUSE
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Esrac
03/15/18 11:36:36 AM
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What does Homebrew provide for the Switch anyway?

Not being sarcastic. Seriously asking.
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prince_leo
03/15/18 11:38:30 AM
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if it's just homebrew stuff, idgaf
if it's like bricking the console, fuck
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CableZL
03/15/18 11:40:15 AM
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s0nicfan
03/15/18 11:41:29 AM
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We're talking homebrew. It'll be like a week before they find a new way to crack it.
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P4wn4g3
03/15/18 11:58:15 AM
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Esrac posted...
What does Homebrew provide for the Switch anyway?

Not being sarcastic. Seriously asking.

Currently nothing really since Nintendo has it so the system wipes if you install homebrew (doesn't brick, just removes homebrew). When a CFW comes out though it should stick and be able to provide people with customization that Nintendo always refuses to put on their systems, similar to any jailbreak really. So for example sometimes you are unable to use browsers of your choice but they will be available through Homebrew. Theme customization is another thing. There are some other more sketchy uses of it, I won't go into those.
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creativeme
03/15/18 12:09:32 PM
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they said the same thing when the switch first came out. you were supposed to not ever upgrade the base model. but if people really care that much why not just get 2 systems? one to keep up to date and the other for homebrew if you're into it that much.
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TheGrindery
03/15/18 12:12:22 PM
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Where there's a will there's a way.
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P4wn4g3
03/15/18 12:12:41 PM
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Its a select group that cares that much. First and foremost I bought it for the more current uses, if it gets full exploits that allow me to use it for basically everything that would be nice but eh.
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Blue_Inigo
03/15/18 12:14:26 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Dont you have a WiiU?

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P4wn4g3
03/15/18 12:22:47 PM
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No, I didn't care for the Wii U.
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GiftedACIII
03/15/18 12:25:59 PM
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Since the only game I'm interested is Kirby and Octopath (and kirby thankfully is just on the cusp of not needing 5.0) I'm definitely going to not update since I still have so much backlog on my 3DS and PC anyway.
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Turbam
03/15/18 12:27:31 PM
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Oh, for homebrew shit? OK, I'll update
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Questionmarktarius
03/15/18 12:28:56 PM
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luigi13579 posted...
Supposedly they've upgraded their security against homebrew, so it's only really if you care about that.

Too bad there's not about seventeen billion other devices that run SNES roms, huh?
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GiftedACIII
03/15/18 12:36:21 PM
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creativeme posted...
they said the same thing when the switch first came out. you were supposed to not ever upgrade the base model. but if people really care that much why not just get 2 systems? one to keep up to date and the other for homebrew if you're into it that much.

As someone with 2 3DSes and one with homebrew on it, the one that doesn't suddenly became dead weight. Much better to wait for it than to spend another $300 if you don't have games you must play or you absolutely need online. Apparently homebrew for 4.x is happening soon anyway.
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Ulyanyx
03/15/18 12:37:41 PM
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if homebrew is still being developed for a current gen console, you should wait until there is a stable dev team and a stable CFW before upgrading, and you should know what you're doing, but early on it adds very little

P4wn4g3 posted...
Esrac posted...
What does Homebrew provide for the Switch anyway?

Not being sarcastic. Seriously asking.

Currently nothing really since Nintendo has it so the system wipes if you install homebrew (doesn't brick, just removes homebrew). When a CFW comes out though it should stick and be able to provide people with customization that Nintendo always refuses to put on their systems, similar to any jailbreak really. So for example sometimes you are unable to use browsers of your choice but they will be available through Homebrew. Theme customization is another thing. There are some other more sketchy uses of it, I won't go into those.


it seems infinitely pointless to put on CFW solely to change browsers or themes. ultimately it's a video game console, it should be used for video games.

though what you said has given me an idea.
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Darklit_Minuet
03/15/18 12:42:16 PM
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I'm keeping mine unupdated to turn it into the ultimate emulator. A hybrid console/handheld with all my old favorite games on it sounds like a dream come true
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Questionmarktarius
03/15/18 12:42:26 PM
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Ulyanyx posted...
it seems infinitely pointless to put on CFW solely to change browsers or themes. ultimately it's a video game console, it should be used for video games.

Seems a hilarious waste of effort to root a device just to look at a desktop background for the fifteen seconds it takes to start a game.
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Vertania
03/15/18 12:45:40 PM
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It's not worth doing CFW this early in a console's lifespan imo. Pretty much every new game is going to need an update that you'll have to bypass, plus there's the potential of not being able to play online.

The Wii U, on the other hand...
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Darklit_Minuet
03/15/18 12:47:34 PM
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Vertania posted...
plus there's the potential of not being able to play online.

That's not a potential, it's reality. Nintendo expects us to pay to play online, nobody should ever do that. I refuse to pay for any online console and will just play it singleplayer/couch multi
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P4wn4g3
03/15/18 12:49:55 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Ulyanyx posted...
it seems infinitely pointless to put on CFW solely to change browsers or themes. ultimately it's a video game console, it should be used for video games.

Seems a hilarious waste of effort to root a device just to look at a desktop background for the fifteen seconds it takes to start a game.

Initially I did it for my Wii for things like Netflix. Of course other stuff ended up being more useful and extending the lifespan of the device a lot. It's nice having a one stop shop system.
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TheGrindery
03/15/18 2:42:38 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Vertania posted...
plus there's the potential of not being able to play online.

That's not a potential, it's reality. Nintendo expects us to pay to play online, nobody should ever do that. I refuse to pay for any online console and will just play it singleplayer/couch multi

I'm with you there online games get shut down eventually.
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P4wn4g3
03/15/18 2:44:53 PM
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You'll need online for Pokmon switch. That will impact the online scene for sure.
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Sad_Face
03/15/18 2:49:57 PM
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Esrac posted...
What does Homebrew provide for the Switch anyway?

Not being sarcastic. Seriously asking.


The biggest thing for me that Homebrew provides is custom themes. The 3DS custom theme community did some incredible stuff and made me feel 100x more prideful of my 3DS.
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GiftedACIII
03/15/18 2:52:34 PM
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Sad_Face posted...
Esrac posted...
What does Homebrew provide for the Switch anyway?

Not being sarcastic. Seriously asking.


The biggest thing for me that Homebrew provides is custom themes. The 3DS custom theme community did some incredible stuff and made me feel 100x more prideful of my 3DS.


The biggest thing about homebrew is save backups and custom patches/mods.
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Payzmaykr
03/15/18 2:53:39 PM
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After the whole this game only works on the NEW 3ds fiasco, Ill never buy a new Nintendo system until at least a couple years after its released.
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P4wn4g3
03/15/18 2:54:22 PM
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A couple years is when the new 3ds was released, not really saving yourself there.
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