Current Events > House GOP Committee backtracks: So, umm, Kremlin DID help Trump beat Clinton..

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Barenziah Boy Toy
03/15/18 1:44:46 PM
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https://www.vox.com/2018/3/14/17121072/republican-house-intelligence-committee-trump-russia-collusion

House Republicans said Russia didnt try to help Trump win the election. Now theyre backtracking.
Republicans may be bowing to public pressure.

2 days ago, the Republican leadership of the House Intelligence Committee made a startling claim: The US intelligence communitys conclusion that Russia tried to help President Trump win the White House was flatly wrong. Now leading GOP members of the panel including its chair are already walking away from the claim and grudgingly admitting the Kremlin worked to undermine Hillary Clinton and boost Trump.

Everyone gets to make their own mind whether or not they are trying to hurt Hillary or help Trump, Rep. Mike Conaway (R-TX), who led the House intelligence probe, said to reporters on Tuesday. It is kind of the glass half-full, glass half-empty, depending how you look at it. Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) best known for his investigations into the deadly 2012 attack on a US diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya said Tuesday that Putin had been motivated in whole or in part by a desire to harm her candidacy or undermine her presidency had she prevailed.

Gowdy spokesperson Amanda Gonzalez told me Wednesday that the Congress member didnt see a difference between liking Trump and hating Clinton which means that Gowdy is backing away from the Republican claim even more explicitly than Conaway. In a binary race, hoping one candidate will lose is tantamount to hoping the other candidate prevails, Gonzalez said.

Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA), who has served on the committee since 2015, told Vox that the original Republican assertion that Moscow hadnt tried to help Trump may not even make it into the final report. A 150-page draft report was sent to Democrats Tuesday; its not clear when it will be made public, or what changes if any Republicans will agree to make beforehand.

It still looks like officially their report will say that there was a preference for Donald Trump, Swalwell said in an interview. If true, that would mean the report itself would be at odds with Conaways initial assertions that Moscow hadnt tried to help Trump.

The GOP retreat in assertions about Russias election meddling is the latest blow to the credibility of the House Republicans investigation, which Democrats have steadily derided as a partisan farce aimed at defending Trump from accusations of collusion rather than actually uncovering the truth. On Tuesday night, Democrats fleshed out their critique and released a detailed 21-page list of investigative leads they say Republicans on the panel ignored, including 30 witnesses like White House advisers Stephen Miller and Kellyanne Conway that werent interviewed.
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UnfairRepresent
03/15/18 1:46:11 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
https://www.vox.com


Cy5cjLL
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Antifar
03/15/18 1:47:31 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
https://www.vox.com

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My dude, they are directly quoting Republican congressmen and their spokespeople on the record here.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
03/15/18 1:47:50 PM
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No collusion! No collusion! No collusion! No collusion!
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darkjedilink
03/15/18 1:49:21 PM
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'Russians hurting Hillary's campaign' =/= 'Trump working with the Russians to hurt Hillary's campaign.' Saying there's no evidence of the latter is not a denial of the former.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
03/15/18 2:06:28 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
'Russians hurting Hillary's campaign' =/= 'Trump working with the Russians to hurt Hillary's campaign.' Saying there's no evidence of the latter is not a denial of the former.

The House GOP report from two days ago denied that Russia even try to meddle in the election in Trump's favor.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
03/15/18 2:16:33 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
https://www.vox.com

Cy5cjLL

Do you have a problem with direct quotes?
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Hornezz
03/15/18 2:32:46 PM
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- Election meddling is a hoax!
- Ok there was meddling, but it could be Russia, China, or a guy sitting on their bed who weighs 400 pounds.
- Ok it was Russia, but they supported Hillary too. Both sides!

- Ok they supported Trump, but no collusion! <--
- Ok it was collusion, but Hillary though.
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CommonStar
03/15/18 2:34:39 PM
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Maybe the GOP is getting scared with how the PA special election turned out.
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prince_leo
03/15/18 2:38:00 PM
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CommonStar posted...
Maybe the GOP is getting scared with how the PA special election turned out.

I mean, if you take the view that everything members of congress do is with the sole intention on being reelected, then yeah it makes sense that if they feel like he hurts their chances then maybe they'll do something about it
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darkjedilink
03/15/18 4:03:27 PM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
darkjedilink posted...
'Russians hurting Hillary's campaign' =/= 'Trump working with the Russians to hurt Hillary's campaign.' Saying there's no evidence of the latter is not a denial of the former.

The House GOP report from two days ago denied that Russia even try to meddle in the election in Trump's favor.

Not according to what I read, of the actual report. Link?
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DrizztLink
03/15/18 4:05:00 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
darkjedilink posted...
'Russians hurting Hillary's campaign' =/= 'Trump working with the Russians to hurt Hillary's campaign.' Saying there's no evidence of the latter is not a denial of the former.

The House GOP report from two days ago denied that Russia even try to meddle in the election in Trump's favor.

Not according to what I read, of the actual report. Link?

Yes?
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littlebro07
03/15/18 4:08:03 PM
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hollow_shrine
03/15/18 4:11:43 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
I've been saying for the longest time that Trump is the albatross around the GOPs neck. Their performance in recent elections prove this.

America is getting sick of Trump's shitty agenda.

If the albatross is alive and healthy it brings the crew good fortune and safe travel. It only becomes a curse if the crew allows it to die.

So in this metaphor Trump is a dead albatross.
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twitterfriends
03/15/18 4:13:45 PM
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Lol fuck the GOP, once they saw the writing on the wall then they start backpeddling and turning from Trump haha fuck you will still be voted out
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darkjedilink
03/15/18 4:14:04 PM
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Hornezz posted...
- Election meddling is a hoax!
- Ok there was meddling, but it could be Russia, China, or a guy sitting on their bed who weighs 400 pounds.
- Ok it was Russia, but they supported Hillary too. Both sides!

- Ok they supported Trump, but no collusion! <--
- Ok it was collusion, but Hillary though.

They did support Hillary, too, according to the 13 Russian nationals Mueller indicted, soooo.....
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A_Good_Boy
03/15/18 4:16:26 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
Hornezz posted...
- Election meddling is a hoax!
- Ok there was meddling, but it could be Russia, China, or a guy sitting on their bed who weighs 400 pounds.
- Ok it was Russia, but they supported Hillary too. Both sides!

- Ok they supported Trump, but no collusion! <--
- Ok it was collusion, but Hillary though.

They did support Hillary, too, according to the 13 Russian nationals Mueller indicted, soooo.....

So is this you finally admitting to their meddling or are you still firmly in denial and only attempting a pathetically weak gotcha?
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Mistere Man
03/15/18 4:17:20 PM
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How exactly did they help or hurt either candidate?

Not judging I am just curious what they could have done?
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