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Sphyx
03/16/18 7:12:15 PM
#101:


27_Sandman_40 posted...
Which is why Im not a joke buddy

Damn, son.
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Hexenherz
03/16/18 7:13:14 PM
#102:


hockeybub89 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
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The funny thing is that if they never pointed it out, no one would've given a shit, no one would've noticed that boys and girls being in the same classroom wasn't historically accurate, but at least they let you know its not, but they rather not piss people off!

Which is why this is totally insincere.

What does sincerity have to do with anything? They're just making sure people know the truth.

Imagine if a game included an educational mode and didn't mention inaccuracies. CE would still be screaming about historical revision, except it would actually have merit.

Eh, no one would really have noticed. There would literally be a lot more posts saying "lol who cares" than in this topic imo. If the kids were playing with PSPs or something then yeah that would be annoying, otherwise I think that's a far more subtle approach.

I guess my point there is that people would see children playing and think "Oh, so children passed their time by chasing chickens in the streets" or whatever as opposed to "Oh, so boys AND girls played!".

They're literally telling you that boys and girls did NOT learn together. You know, for accuracy's sake.

Lol I can see we're going to just be going in circles at this point. S'all good man. I see where you're coming from and ultimately it's just a game.
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UnfairRepresent
03/16/18 7:13:23 PM
#103:


Anyone bothered by this has never played an Assassin's Creed game.

None of the games are historically accurate and they avoid pretty much all socially uncomfortable truths.

There's no Ass Creed game where people walk around saying ****** and raping each other. And they always push women and minorities into important plot roles.
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ZombiePelican
03/16/18 7:20:59 PM
#105:


hockeybub89 posted...
They're literally telling you that boys and girls did NOT learn together. You know, for accuracy's sake.

Then why add the inaccuracy in the first place?
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UnfairRepresent
03/16/18 7:21:54 PM
#106:


ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
They're literally telling you that boys and girls did NOT learn together. You know, for accuracy's sake.

Then why add the inaccuracy in the first place?

Same reason they added all the other inaccuracies

to sell a video game
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hockeybub89
03/16/18 7:22:14 PM
#107:


ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
They're literally telling you that boys and girls did NOT learn together. You know, for accuracy's sake.

Then why add the inaccuracy in the first place?

Because their main games are not made for accuracy, but this mode was.
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Ulyanyx
03/16/18 7:26:06 PM
#108:


Shotgunnova posted...
While I think shoving in modern-day values over historical accuracy is (often) stupid, this only affects something on a vase, so my interest is limited. And, as said, Assassin's Creed isn't known for its faithful historical accuracy anyway, lmao.


It's still people shoving in their own values over historical things. It's petty pathetic pandering and people will eat it up JUST because others point out why it bothers them.

The same indifference you show will be a great undoing.
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Sphyx
03/16/18 7:29:17 PM
#109:


Perhaps they shuld also include a completely historically accurate version to pander to people who are bothered by this.
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Hexenherz
03/16/18 7:37:55 PM
#110:


Sphyx posted...
Perhaps they shuld also include a completely historically accurate version to pander to people who are bothered by this.

This isn't the point. People aren't necessarily bothered by the historical inaccuracy itself.
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ZombiePelican
03/16/18 7:40:50 PM
#111:


hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
They're literally telling you that boys and girls did NOT learn together. You know, for accuracy's sake.

Then why add the inaccuracy in the first place?

Because their main games are not made for accuracy, but this mode was.

Sorry but you're not deflecting this one, I'm not taking about the main game but the inaccurate text. Why even have it if the point of the mode is historical accuracy?
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Sphyx
03/16/18 7:46:16 PM
#112:


Hexenherz posted...
People aren't necessarily bothered by the historical inaccuracy itself.


Is it the stating that it's inaccurate that you're referring to?
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Hexenherz
03/16/18 8:28:15 PM
#113:


Sphyx posted...
Hexenherz posted...
People aren't necessarily bothered by the historical inaccuracy itself.


Is it the stating that it's inaccurate that you're referring to?

Yeah like I said it's just really awkward virtue signaling. As if they're trying to appease disproportionately vocal SJW and the handful of very easily offended 50+ year old Egyptologists out there who may or may not ever even see the name "Assassin's Creed: Origins".

Maybe like a simple note on a loading screen saying "The creative team took some liberties in recreating certain social aspects in the game" but to draw attention to that fact specifically in the description of an item is weird.

Like... I literally don't give a shit what content they put in their game, or leave out of it, but ... just leave it at that.
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hockeybub89
03/16/18 8:57:19 PM
#114:


ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
They're literally telling you that boys and girls did NOT learn together. You know, for accuracy's sake.

Then why add the inaccuracy in the first place?

Because their main games are not made for accuracy, but this mode was.

Sorry but you're not deflecting this one, I'm not taking about the main game but the inaccurate text. Why even have it if the point of the mode is historical accuracy?

Why even have what? The game is inaccurate, so they made sure to point out the inaccuracies in the Discovery Tour mode, which is supposed to be educational. They weren't going to build an entirely brand new game world. They point out a number of historical accuracies in that mode, but no one cares about those other ones because they can't be construed as dem darn SJWs ruining gaming and rewriting history. You know, because you typically make it a point to openly admit inaccuracies when you're rewriting history.
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hockeybub89
03/16/18 8:58:57 PM
#115:


Hexenherz posted...
Sphyx posted...
Hexenherz posted...
People aren't necessarily bothered by the historical inaccuracy itself.


Is it the stating that it's inaccurate that you're referring to?

Yeah like I said it's just really awkward virtue signaling. As if they're trying to appease disproportionately vocal SJW and the handful of very easily offended 50+ year old Egyptologists out there who may or may not ever even see the name "Assassin's Creed: Origins".

Maybe like a simple note on a loading screen saying "The creative team took some liberties in recreating certain social aspects in the game" but to draw attention to that fact specifically in the description of an item is weird.

Like... I literally don't give a shit what content they put in their game, or leave out of it, but ... just leave it at that.

I feel like you still think this is in the main game. It would be kind if weird if an educational mode pushed alternative facts.
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Hexenherz
03/16/18 9:28:29 PM
#116:


hockeybub89 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Sphyx posted...
Hexenherz posted...
People aren't necessarily bothered by the historical inaccuracy itself.


Is it the stating that it's inaccurate that you're referring to?

Yeah like I said it's just really awkward virtue signaling. As if they're trying to appease disproportionately vocal SJW and the handful of very easily offended 50+ year old Egyptologists out there who may or may not ever even see the name "Assassin's Creed: Origins".

Maybe like a simple note on a loading screen saying "The creative team took some liberties in recreating certain social aspects in the game" but to draw attention to that fact specifically in the description of an item is weird.

Like... I literally don't give a shit what content they put in their game, or leave out of it, but ... just leave it at that.

I feel like you still think this is in the main game. It would be kind if weird if an educational mode pushed alternative facts.

I know it's not the main game.

I guess one thing that would help put this to rest - do they point this out in any other thing that's inaccurate or is it specifically just this one thing?
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Shadow-Moses
03/18/18 3:40:55 PM
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I think this should be posted on the PS4 board.
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Bio1590
03/18/18 3:48:48 PM
#118:


Hexenherz posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Sphyx posted...
Hexenherz posted...
People aren't necessarily bothered by the historical inaccuracy itself.


Is it the stating that it's inaccurate that you're referring to?

Yeah like I said it's just really awkward virtue signaling. As if they're trying to appease disproportionately vocal SJW and the handful of very easily offended 50+ year old Egyptologists out there who may or may not ever even see the name "Assassin's Creed: Origins".

Maybe like a simple note on a loading screen saying "The creative team took some liberties in recreating certain social aspects in the game" but to draw attention to that fact specifically in the description of an item is weird.

Like... I literally don't give a shit what content they put in their game, or leave out of it, but ... just leave it at that.

I feel like you still think this is in the main game. It would be kind if weird if an educational mode pushed alternative facts.

I know it's not the main game.

I guess one thing that would help put this to rest - do they point this out in any other thing that's inaccurate or is it specifically just this one thing?

There are multiple points in the Discovery Tour where they discuss design points and point out that they're not completely accurate.
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WizardPowers
03/18/18 3:50:20 PM
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Hexenherz
03/18/18 3:50:50 PM
#120:


Bio1590 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Sphyx posted...
Hexenherz posted...
People aren't necessarily bothered by the historical inaccuracy itself.


Is it the stating that it's inaccurate that you're referring to?

Yeah like I said it's just really awkward virtue signaling. As if they're trying to appease disproportionately vocal SJW and the handful of very easily offended 50+ year old Egyptologists out there who may or may not ever even see the name "Assassin's Creed: Origins".

Maybe like a simple note on a loading screen saying "The creative team took some liberties in recreating certain social aspects in the game" but to draw attention to that fact specifically in the description of an item is weird.

Like... I literally don't give a shit what content they put in their game, or leave out of it, but ... just leave it at that.

I feel like you still think this is in the main game. It would be kind if weird if an educational mode pushed alternative facts.

I know it's not the main game.

I guess one thing that would help put this to rest - do they point this out in any other thing that's inaccurate or is it specifically just this one thing?

There are multiple points in the Discovery Tour where they discuss design points and point out that they're not completely accurate.


In that case I feel kind of dumb for making an issue out of this since it's not a singular example of such explanations in the game.
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hockeybub89
03/18/18 3:54:42 PM
#121:


WizardPowers posted...
feelings > historical accuracy

lmao

Ubisoft decided to go with both in this case, as they decided to take their informational, yet regularly inaccurate sci-fi series, and also add an educational mode dedicated to historical accuracy. Like, have you heard of Assassin's Creed before this? Any alternative history piece of media is an example of feelings over historical accuracy, but I guess Abraham Lincoln can fight vampires as long we also don't pretend that women weren't second class citizens.
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MrPeppers
03/18/18 4:02:27 PM
#122:


hockeybub89 posted...

Ubisoft decided to go with both in this case, as they decided to take their informational, yet regularly inaccurate sci-fi series, and also add an educational mode dedicated to historical accuracy. Like, have you heard of Assassin's Creed before this? Any alternative history piece of media is an example of feelings over historical accuracy, but I guess Abraham Lincoln can fight vampires as long we also don't pretend that women weren't second class citizens.


If this game is so far detached from reality like so many in this topic have alluded to, I'm not quite certain what the objective of an educational mode for this game is. I think it's really as simple as that.

Just from glancing at the screencap, it looks mostly like an opportunity to signal virtues (at least based off of the completely unsubtle wording).
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Bio1590
03/18/18 4:03:53 PM
#123:


MrPeppers posted...
hockeybub89 posted...

Ubisoft decided to go with both in this case, as they decided to take their informational, yet regularly inaccurate sci-fi series, and also add an educational mode dedicated to historical accuracy. Like, have you heard of Assassin's Creed before this? Any alternative history piece of media is an example of feelings over historical accuracy, but I guess Abraham Lincoln can fight vampires as long we also don't pretend that women weren't second class citizens.


If this game is so far detached from reality like so many in this topic have alluded to, I'm not quite certain what the objective of an educational mode for this game is. I think it's really as simple as that.

Just from glancing at the screencap, it looks mostly like an opportunity to signal virtues (at least based off of the completely unsubtle wording).

Maybe you should actually go through it before spouting off ignorant opinions? Just a suggestion.
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dave_is_slick
03/18/18 8:17:59 PM
#124:


Hexenherz posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Sphyx posted...
Hexenherz posted...
People aren't necessarily bothered by the historical inaccuracy itself.


Is it the stating that it's inaccurate that you're referring to?

Yeah like I said it's just really awkward virtue signaling. As if they're trying to appease disproportionately vocal SJW and the handful of very easily offended 50+ year old Egyptologists out there who may or may not ever even see the name "Assassin's Creed: Origins".

Maybe like a simple note on a loading screen saying "The creative team took some liberties in recreating certain social aspects in the game" but to draw attention to that fact specifically in the description of an item is weird.

Like... I literally don't give a shit what content they put in their game, or leave out of it, but ... just leave it at that.

I feel like you still think this is in the main game. It would be kind if weird if an educational mode pushed alternative facts.

I know it's not the main game.

I guess one thing that would help put this to rest - do they point this out in any other thing that's inaccurate or is it specifically just this one thing?

There are multiple points in the Discovery Tour where they discuss design points and point out that they're not completely accurate.


In that case I feel kind of dumb for making an issue out of this since it's not a singular example of such explanations in the game.

Why aren't more people on CE like this? It would make for a much more pleasant experience.
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Darmik
03/18/18 8:20:53 PM
#125:


MrPeppers posted...
If this game is so far detached from reality like so many in this topic have alluded to, I'm not quite certain what the objective of an educational mode for this game is. I think it's really as simple as that.


Because it's still most likely the most accurate virtual render of ancient Egypt. They still base a lot of the design on recorded history.

Think of it like a behind the scenes documentary for a movie that goes into detail what they based their designs on.
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MrPeppers
03/18/18 9:35:45 PM
#126:


Bio1590 posted...

Maybe you should actually go through it before spouting off ignorant opinions? Just a suggestion.


Darmik's response is actually helpful, yours is not.
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Bio1590
03/18/18 10:37:49 PM
#127:


I'm sorry for not "helping" a user who is ignorantly complaining about something they clearly know nothing about
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Im_JustMe0129
03/18/18 10:40:31 PM
#128:


Liberals: History is poopy and sexist, lets rewrite it to fit our brainwashing....er "politically correct" agenda.
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Lordgold666
03/18/18 10:41:48 PM
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Lol
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MutantJohn
03/19/18 12:19:58 AM
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The game is still great though
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