Current Events > This 17 y/o Conservative Chubby Kid was SUSPENDED for NOT supporting Gun Reform!

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Full Throttle
03/16/18 10:05:33 PM
#1:


Do you support the anti-gun walkouts and protest for Gun Reform on March 24?


Jacob Shoemaker, a student from Ohio who doesn't deny that he is a CONSERVATIVE got a one day out of school suspension after he decided not to join EVERYONE in the school who joined a national walkout protest against gun violence as he said he took a "neutral" response by sitting in class instead!!

The 17 y/o Rotund decided to sit in his classroom instead as a form of nonpolitical protest and to avoid being grouped in with "millenials" who decided to be political on gun reform even though he admits he DOESN'T want gun reform

The reason for his suspension was because he refused to follow instructions as the district says its responsible for students safety and they can't be unsupervised as the reasoning for the punishment.

Spokesman Stacey Raterman said "I can only confirm that no student was suspended for not walking out, nor were any suspended for walking out"

The slip has goen viral bringing attention to how the student was kicked out of school for a day as he said "I really didn't have a choice here. If you walked out, you were with the protest, you were for gun control and anti-gun violence. And if you sat in this pit with all these people, you were pro gun violence. It's the least political protest that exists and the thing that iw as protesting in politics in the classroom I feel that it has no place. In a school, in a district, anywhere. We aren't even old enough to vote for change and i don't think students should be political about anything at all"

Jacob's dad, Scott instead got a myriad of angry PHONE CALLS instead after the letter went viral as he said "Thought i was going to have a normal day yesteray until my son's story (and my old phone number) went viral and media outlets from al over the country strated contacting me. Jacob felt he was forced to make a political decision at school, but refrained. This was not the first time we had problems with politics in the classroom as many of you are aware. Proud of my son for sticking to his guns, literally, and avoiding politics in schol, although the school district were less than thrilled with his decision and probably the unwanted attention that they are getting the harsh decision that they made. He chose not to follow the liberal view of guns and i am proud of him"

This is a prelude before the massive protest around the country on March 24th where students will march for gun reform in Washington next Saturday

Do you support the anti-gun walkouts and protest on March 24 for gun reform?

Jacob and his Dad -

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jugs
03/16/18 10:08:13 PM
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High school walk outs are lame. Only about 5% of the kids actually give a **** about gun control.
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gp1829
03/16/18 10:30:41 PM
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This is the second topic and the second completely wrong title. He was suspended for not going to study hall which was his other option instead of walking out. Quit making it something it isn't.
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ZMythos
03/17/18 10:49:20 AM
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gp1829 posted...
This is the second topic and the second completely wrong title. He was suspended for not going to study hall which was his other option instead of walking out. Quit making it something it isn't.

This. Fairest next of the week.
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03/17/18 10:52:35 AM
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TheVipaGTS
03/17/18 10:55:52 AM
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gp1829 posted...
This is the second topic and the second completely wrong title. He was suspended for not going to study hall which was his other option instead of walking out. Quit making it something it isn't.

so he had an option to not protest, chose not to take that option, and is now claiming he got suspended for not protesting? I bet he uses "fake news" and "cuck" on the internet a lot.
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CaptainCrunch
03/17/18 10:57:52 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
The reason for his suspension was because he refused to follow instructions as the district says its responsible for students safety and they can't be unsupervised as the reasoning for the punishment.


so what you're telling me

is that he wasn't suspended for his political beliefs

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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 10:58:28 AM
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Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 11:02:53 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts

gp1829 posted...
This is the second topic and the second completely wrong title. He was suspended for not going to study hall which was his other option instead of walking out. Quit making it something it isn't.

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Paragon21XX
03/17/18 11:04:53 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
gp1829 posted...
This is the second topic and the second completely wrong title. He was suspended for not going to study hall which was his other option instead of walking out. Quit making it something it isn't.

so he had an option to not protest, chose not to take that option, and is now claiming he got suspended for not protesting? I bet he uses "fake news" and "cuck" on the internet a lot.

He saw the study hall alternative as opposing the gun violence walk-out as well as disrespecting the Parkland victims and would rather have remained neutral in the gun control debate which he saw remaining in class as equivalent.
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 11:06:22 AM
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Paragon21XX posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
gp1829 posted...
This is the second topic and the second completely wrong title. He was suspended for not going to study hall which was his other option instead of walking out. Quit making it something it isn't.

so he had an option to not protest, chose not to take that option, and is now claiming he got suspended for not protesting? I bet he uses "fake news" and "cuck" on the internet a lot.

He saw the study hall alternative as opposing the gun violence walk-out as well as disrespecting the Parkland victims and would rather have remained neutral in the gun control debate which he saw remaining in class as equivalent.

And he willfully did that knowing he'd getting suspended.

Fairest. Of. Nexts.
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 11:09:52 AM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts

gp1829 posted...
This is the second topic and the second completely wrong title. He was suspended for not going to study hall which was his other option instead of walking out. Quit making it something it isn't.


Yes go to the study so teachers could babysit you instead of teaching. All because some dumbass wanna ditch class
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gamepimp12
03/17/18 11:13:20 AM
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Paragon21XX posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
gp1829 posted...
This is the second topic and the second completely wrong title. He was suspended for not going to study hall which was his other option instead of walking out. Quit making it something it isn't.

so he had an option to not protest, chose not to take that option, and is now claiming he got suspended for not protesting? I bet he uses "fake news" and "cuck" on the internet a lot.

He saw the study hall alternative as opposing the gun violence walk-out as well as disrespecting the Parkland victims and would rather have remained neutral in the gun control debate which he saw remaining in class as equivalent.


Thats the kind of stance you express to the principal ahead of time.

I get his point and Id kind of agree but when you make that decision on your own you do have to face the rules.
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cjsdowg
03/17/18 11:13:24 AM
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It is always funny how the kids that the right brings up get shown to be liars time after time.
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 11:15:32 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
It is always funny how the kids that the right brings up get shown to be liars time after time.


And this kid is not lying

Yup Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin are angels who dont lie
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TheVipaGTS
03/17/18 11:16:47 AM
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Paragon21XX posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
gp1829 posted...
This is the second topic and the second completely wrong title. He was suspended for not going to study hall which was his other option instead of walking out. Quit making it something it isn't.

so he had an option to not protest, chose not to take that option, and is now claiming he got suspended for not protesting? I bet he uses "fake news" and "cuck" on the internet a lot.

He saw the study hall alternative as opposing the gun violence walk-out as well as disrespecting the Parkland victims and would rather have remained neutral in the gun control debate which he saw remaining in class as equivalent.

how is going to study hall any different than just staying in the classroom he was trying to stay in? "I oppose the protest but i think going to study hall is disrespectful...so i'll just stay in this empty classroom"...Its the same thing lol.
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Ben_Ruggiero
03/17/18 11:17:33 AM
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Look at duckbear mocking a minor for his weight. Fuck you bully
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 11:18:55 AM
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Look at duckbear mocking a minor for his weight. Fuck you bully

Oh shut the fuck up. I bet if that kid was a liberal you wouldn't be saying the same thing.
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 11:21:28 AM
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Look at duckbear mocking a minor for his weight. Fuck you bully


Goes to show that these high school kids will never learn. Instead of walking out and disrupting class...be a better student and friend and stop name calling. But lolnope
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Ben_Ruggiero
03/17/18 11:21:30 AM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Look at duckbear mocking a minor for his weight. Fuck you bully

Oh shut the fuck up. I bet if that kid was a liberal you wouldn't be saying the same thing.

And this guy supports bullying a minor because he has a differing political opinion than him. Real classy
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 11:22:19 AM
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Look at duckbear mocking a minor for his weight. Fuck you bully

Oh shut the fuck up. I bet if that kid was a liberal you wouldn't be saying the same thing.

And this guy supports bullying a minor because he has a differing political opinion than him. Real classy

Doesn't make what I said wrong.
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Ben_Ruggiero
03/17/18 11:26:14 AM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Look at duckbear mocking a minor for his weight. Fuck you bully

Oh shut the fuck up. I bet if that kid was a liberal you wouldn't be saying the same thing.

And this guy supports bullying a minor because he has a differing political opinion than him. Real classy

Doesn't make what I said wrong.

No I'm just not gonna argue with somebody that is addicted to opiates and has sex with kids
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 11:28:02 AM
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Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Look at duckbear mocking a minor for his weight. Fuck you bully

Oh shut the fuck up. I bet if that kid was a liberal you wouldn't be saying the same thing.

And this guy supports bullying a minor because he has a differing political opinion than him. Real classy

Doesn't make what I said wrong.

No I'm just not gonna argue with somebody that is addicted to opiates and has sex with kids

They're prescribed by a doctor and a 16 year old isn't a kid according to my states law
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 11:29:22 AM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Look at duckbear mocking a minor for his weight. Fuck you bully

Oh shut the fuck up. I bet if that kid was a liberal you wouldn't be saying the same thing.

And this guy supports bullying a minor because he has a differing political opinion than him. Real classy

Doesn't make what I said wrong.

No I'm just not gonna argue with somebody that is addicted to opiates and has sex with kids

They're prescribed by a doctor and a 16 year old isn't a kid according to my states law


Bro you 24 and had sex with a 16 year old? Lmfao
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 11:36:44 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Ben_Ruggiero posted...
Look at duckbear mocking a minor for his weight. Fuck you bully

Oh shut the fuck up. I bet if that kid was a liberal you wouldn't be saying the same thing.

And this guy supports bullying a minor because he has a differing political opinion than him. Real classy

Doesn't make what I said wrong.

No I'm just not gonna argue with somebody that is addicted to opiates and has sex with kids

They're prescribed by a doctor and a 16 year old isn't a kid according to my states law


Bro you 24 and had sex with a 16 year old? Lmfao

Yeah. It's legal here in NJ. Also I was 23 when it happened
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Dampproof
03/17/18 11:40:27 AM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.
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Nomadic View
03/17/18 11:45:05 AM
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They cant accommodate him sitting in the class by himself. They had somewhere for him to go if he didnt want to participate in the walk out. I think a fucking suspension is overkill, but the reasoning for punishment is fair.
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03/17/18 11:49:02 AM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Yeah. It's legal here in NJ. Also I was 23 when it happened


s2xrYBA

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What were you doing with a bottle of percocet and a box of condoms? What was your true intention with this minor?
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ZMythos
03/17/18 11:59:40 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
I think a fucking suspension is overkill, but the reasoning for punishment is fair.

The level of punishment could be tied to previous offenses, or they had to demand multiple times that he leave the classroom and he refused.
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 12:15:02 PM
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Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 12:16:21 PM
#31:


KingCrabCake posted...
Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao

Yes he could have.
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 12:16:52 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

Yeah. It's legal here in NJ. Also I was 23 when it happened


Omfg HahHHhHahaahh
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 12:17:52 PM
#33:


Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao

Yes he could have.


No he couldnt. That shit is babysit area and you know it
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 12:19:20 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao

Yes he could have.


No he couldnt. That shit is babysit area and you know it

OK but by sitting in an empty classroom he wasn't going to learn anything either. Nor will he learn anything while suspended
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 12:20:57 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao

Yes he could have.


No he couldnt. That shit is babysit area and you know it

OK but by sitting in an empty classroom he wasn't going to learn anything either. Nor will he learn anything while suspended


Yeah how dare he sit in a classroom. Who does he think he is? A student
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Dampproof
03/17/18 12:24:40 PM
#36:


KingCrabCake posted...
Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao


What would stop him from learning in a study hall? Is his physically forced to not read? work on projects? do homework?
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 12:24:59 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao

Yes he could have.


No he couldnt. That shit is babysit area and you know it

OK but by sitting in an empty classroom he wasn't going to learn anything either. Nor will he learn anything while suspended


Yeah how dare he sit in a classroom. Who does he think he is? A student

He disobeyed orders and now he's being punished for it.
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 12:26:53 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

He disobeyed orders and now he's being punished for it.


Thats fine. Its just horse shit. Poor kid being punished cause he didnt want to make a political statement
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MangaFan462
03/17/18 12:28:36 PM
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Nazi's must run that school
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Muffinz0rz
03/17/18 12:29:58 PM
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i love how he can post shit like this and half the people on CE still egg him on
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03/17/18 12:43:36 PM
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TheVipaGTS
03/17/18 12:55:27 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao

Yes he could have.


No he couldnt. That shit is babysit area and you know it

And how is staying in an empty classroom going to help him study more than study hall would have? You realize the reason he had to go to study hall is because there was no supervision in the room he was refusing to leave, right?
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Cal12
03/17/18 12:57:22 PM
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So walking out of school in protest gets you nothing but an excuse to skip school for a day but doing a counter-protest and sitting in the classroom youre supposed to be in and not walking out gets you a suspension? Whether he knew the consequences or not this is compete and utter bullshit.
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KingCrabCake
03/17/18 1:02:31 PM
#44:


TheVipaGTS posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao

Yes he could have.


No he couldnt. That shit is babysit area and you know it

And how is staying in an empty classroom going to help him study more than study hall would have? You realize the reason he had to go to study hall is because there was no supervision in the room he was refusing to leave, right?


And you realize the reason for no supervision was because of the stupid walk out stunt, right?
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TheVipaGTS
03/17/18 1:03:35 PM
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Cal12 posted...
So walking out of school in protest gets you nothing but an excuse to skip school for a day but doing a counter-protest and sitting in the classroom youre supposed to be in and not walking out gets you a suspension? Whether he knew the consequences or not this is compete and utter bullshit.

The school has a responsibility for all students. It would be impossible for them to fairly punish all students who walked out. Sounds like they in a way sanctioned it and allowed for the walk out under their supervision. Its the best way for them to limit the potential trouble. Those who strayed away from that supervision if caught probably faced consequences too. Those who didnt want to werent forced to but had to still move to a supervised area. He refused to. At the end of the day it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the school attempting to cover their own ass.
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A_Good_Boy
03/17/18 1:04:00 PM
#46:


KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Dampproof posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Holy shit imagine getting suspended cause you WANTED to learn and not participate in this political bullshit? Unfairest of nexts


Which he could've done in the study hall.

No he couldn't. Lmfao

Yes he could have.


No he couldnt. That shit is babysit area and you know it

And how is staying in an empty classroom going to help him study more than study hall would have? You realize the reason he had to go to study hall is because there was no supervision in the room he was refusing to leave, right?


And you realize the reason for no supervision was because of the stupid walk out stunt, right?

Was his question that hard to answer?
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Genocet_10-325
03/17/18 1:05:30 PM
#47:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Cal12 posted...
So walking out of school in protest gets you nothing but an excuse to skip school for a day but doing a counter-protest and sitting in the classroom youre supposed to be in and not walking out gets you a suspension? Whether he knew the consequences or not this is compete and utter bullshit.

The school has a responsibility for all students. It would be impossible for them to fairly punish all students who walked out. Sounds like they in a way sanctioned it and allowed for the walk out under their supervision. Those who strayed away from that supervision if caught probably faced consequences too. Those Who didnt want to werent forced to but had to still move to a supervised area. He refused to. At the end of the day it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the school attempting to cover their own ass.

Yes there would be. There was a walkout at my high school when I was a senior. Half the school walked out and everybody who participated (including myself) got suspended for 2 days. Idr what the walkout was about but it wasn't political
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TheVipaGTS
03/17/18 1:12:03 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Cal12 posted...
So walking out of school in protest gets you nothing but an excuse to skip school for a day but doing a counter-protest and sitting in the classroom youre supposed to be in and not walking out gets you a suspension? Whether he knew the consequences or not this is compete and utter bullshit.

The school has a responsibility for all students. It would be impossible for them to fairly punish all students who walked out. Sounds like they in a way sanctioned it and allowed for the walk out under their supervision. Those who strayed away from that supervision if caught probably faced consequences too. Those Who didnt want to werent forced to but had to still move to a supervised area. He refused to. At the end of the day it has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the school attempting to cover their own ass.

Yes there would be. There was a walkout at my high school when I was a senior. Half the school walked out and everybody who participated (including myself) got suspended for 2 days. Idr what the walkout was about but it wasn't political

By unfairly I mean in relation to how many students walk out. If they cant pinpoint each student it could end up being a mass punishment which could affect others. Ultimately the risk of potential legal problems if a student got hurt while the school was responsible for them is the biggest thing IMO. Let them protest. Just supervise it. They didnt pick a side. They gave both sides an option. This student just refused to take that option and was punished for it. He wasnt punished for his political beliefs and its wrong for him and his father to frame this in that way. This is a clear case of the school just trying to mitigate damage to themselves. Nothing political.
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