Poll of the Day > Do you think the cop that was involved in that deadly swatting incident in KS..

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Reportedly the police officer has not been named and the department is resisting all efforts to charge him with a crime but even the victim's family wants him charged but iirc the department is not budging.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/4-billboards-kansas-call-charges-161109584.html
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No, i think the person who called in the swatting prank should be charged with manslaughter and imprisoned.
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Ogurisama posted...

No, i think the person who called in the swatting prank should be charged with manslaughter and imprisoned.

I believe they did arrest him...
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He should be in prison for at least 10 years, instead he's being protected by the police.
Then the cop defenders claim there's only a few "bad apples." No, every single officer supports this thin blue line bs, and thus are also bad apples.
If you or I helped cover up a murder, we'd go to jail.

Ogurisama posted...

No, i think the person who called in the swatting prank should be charged with manslaughter and imprisoned.

streamofthesky posted...

Ogurisama posted...

No, i think the person who called in the swatting prank should be charged with manslaughter and imprisoned.

Exactly. There is absolutely no reason why both shouldn't be charged.
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I do think so, but that the extenuating circumstances need to be taken into consideration both when determining the verdict and if found guilty, determining his sentencing
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Both are criminals.

So, we've decided both, right? Call them up and tell them to arrest both. Case closed. Another good day.
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It was obviously a case of negligence leading to death, thus he is guilty.
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From what I read I think so yes. He should be charged, he was trigger happy. All cops know they can go to jail for jumping the gun. He shot dead an unarmed guy who just answered the door.
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HotMaladorianAI posted...

From what I read I think so yes. He should be charged, he was trigger happy. All cops know they can't go to jail for jumping the gun. He shot dead an unarmed guy who just answered the door.

I fixed that for you.
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Revelation34 posted...

HotMaladorianAI posted...

From what I read I think so yes. He should be charged, he was trigger happy. All cops know they can't go to jail for jumping the gun. He shot dead an unarmed guy who just answered the door.

I fixed that for you.

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Both swatter and the cop should be punished.
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Of course the cop should be charged. His negligence directly caused a person's death. I doubt that he'd get convicted though, American juries love policemen.

JTekashiro posted...

Of course the cop should be charged. His negligence directly caused a person's death. I doubt that he'd get convicted though, American juries love policemen.

Are you sure they aren't just scared? Maybe they think they'll get shot if they convict or something...
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He shouldn't be charged. He was given bad information from dispatch where he was told that he was responding to an armed & dangerous assailant who had poured petrol in the house so, when the suspect ignored orders, he was given every reason to open fire.

There are 3 individuals directly responsible for this incident: the person who placed the swatting call, the person who commissioned the swatting call, and the guy who gave the address knowing that it would be swatted. Having heard the tape iirc, it's possible that dispatch may have been negligent but you have to investigate these tips all the same.

streamofthesky posted...

He should be in prison for at least 10 years, instead he's being protected by the police.
Then the cop defenders claim there's only a few "bad apples." No, every single officer supports this thin blue line bs, and thus are also bad apples.
If you or I helped cover up a murder, we'd go to jail.

...what?

streamofthesky posted...

Ogurisama posted...

No, i think the person who called in the swatting prank should be charged with manslaughter and imprisoned.

...while we're at it, why not also charge the dispatcher who put the cop in that situation? After all, shouldn't they have exercised more discretion by that logic?
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Who did the cop KS from?
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I thought the one who made the call was the one who supplied the address. I thought differently until I read the article in the OP...
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Zeus posted...

when the suspect ignored orders,

Citation needed.
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Revelation34 posted...

Zeus posted...

when the suspect ignored orders,

Citation needed.

Mah alt right news.

streamofthesky posted...

He should be in prison for at least 10 years, instead he's being protected by the police.
Then the cop defenders claim there's only a few "bad apples." No, every single officer supports this thin blue line bs, and thus are also bad apples.
If you or I helped cover up a murder, we'd go to jail.

Thats extreme. Its obvious that in this instance it was an accident. At the most he should be fired and at the very least suspension and then retraining. Hell, after this the whole task force should retrain.
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EvilMegas posted...

streamofthesky posted...

He should be in prison for at least 10 years, instead he's being protected by the police.
Then the cop defenders claim there's only a few "bad apples." No, every single officer supports this thin blue line bs, and thus are also bad apples.
If you or I helped cover up a murder, we'd go to jail.

Thats extreme. Its obvious that in this instance it was an accident. At the most he should be fired and at the very least suspension and then retraining. Hell, after this the whole task force should retrain.

I'll quote this post when I negligently drop I-beams off a roof at work and kill people.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

EvilMegas posted...

streamofthesky posted...

He should be in prison for at least 10 years, instead he's being protected by the police.
Then the cop defenders claim there's only a few "bad apples." No, every single officer supports this thin blue line bs, and thus are also bad apples.
If you or I helped cover up a murder, we'd go to jail.

Thats extreme. Its obvious that in this instance it was an accident. At the most he should be fired and at the very least suspension and then retraining. Hell, after this the whole task force should retrain.

I'll quote this post when I negligently drop I-beams off a roof at work and kill people.

You didn't murder anyone and your company isn't evil for making sure you dont get tried with a trumped up charge.

Stop being that guy.
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Zeus posted...

...while we're at it, why not also charge the dispatcher who put the cop in that situation? After all, shouldn't they have exercised more discretion by that logic?

The dispatcher didn't shoot a guy dead, without any actual confirmation of there being an actual issue.

You know, because hoax calls never happen, and police don't need to fully verify a situation before using deadly force....
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EvilMegas posted...

Thats extreme. Its obvious that in this instance it was an accident. At the most he should be fired and at the very least suspension and then retraining. Hell, after this the whole task force should retrain.

I didn't know you could accidentally pull out a gun and shoot an unarmed person.
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Revelation34 posted...

EvilMegas posted...

Thats extreme. Its obvious that in this instance it was an accident. At the most he should be fired and at the very least suspension and then retraining. Hell, after this the whole task force should retrain.

I didn't know you could accidentally pull out a gun and shoot an unarmed person.

You can mistakenly deem someone a threat because of panic and them flailing around. I have no love for the actions of police lately, but this isnt one of those cases.
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cops are always on edge. they shouldn;t kill someone just for answering the door. the guy did not disobey orders. the story is that he answered the door and then got shot right away. he didn't have time to know what was happening. if the cops gave any order it was one of those situations where they scream an order and shoot at the same time.

cops love to do that and then claim they gave an order. the cop may even remember it wrong and think they gave the guy a chance. it's said that time slows down in those moments and they don't realize how short it is. and they focus only on one thing. like the case where cops shot a deaf man and neighbors were screaming that he's deaf and cops later said they didn't hear that. Cops basically are PTSD or just really jumpy and not good, psychology. we need to hire people with healthy brains to be cops. not crazy people.

EvilMegas posted...

You can mistakenly deem someone a threat because of panic and them flailing around. I have no love for the actions of police lately, but this isnt one of those cases.

Revelation34 posted...

Citation needed.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

EvilMegas posted...

streamofthesky posted...

He should be in prison for at least 10 years, instead he's being protected by the police.
Then the cop defenders claim there's only a few "bad apples." No, every single officer supports this thin blue line bs, and thus are also bad apples.
If you or I helped cover up a murder, we'd go to jail.

Thats extreme. Its obvious that in this instance it was an accident. At the most he should be fired and at the very least suspension and then retraining. Hell, after this the whole task force should retrain.

I'll quote this post when I negligently drop I-beams off a roof at work and kill people.

Stop saying stupid shit.
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Government employees receiving special protections when they wrongfully kill someone is ridiculous when some states will attempt to charge normal citizens for murder if they shoot someone that's trespassing on their property and robbing them.
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Revelation34 posted...

EvilMegas posted...

You can mistakenly deem someone a threat because of panic and them flailing around. I have no love for the actions of police lately, but this isnt one of those cases.

Revelation34 posted...

Citation needed.

You want me to site where it says it was an accident?
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If they did something clearly excessive/negligent then yes but if it was due to any sort of misunderstanding/confusion/communication issue while everybody is busting in doors and shouting and whatnot when they go in prepared to use force then it's the fault of the moron that swatted them in the first place, anything that happens after that false call is on them.
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