Current Events > 9 y/o boy shoots his sister in the head for not sharing videogame controller

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Ammonitida posted...

What punishment (if any) do you guys feel the boy should get?

Be forced to watch letplays for the rest of his life.

3khc posted...

I wonder what happened after the boy killed his sister. Like how did he react to all the blood. Did he pick up the controller and start playing or what.

Creepy to think about...
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Title would've been both more accurate and easier to fit if it was "shot and killed" rather than "shoot in the head"

Seaman_Prime posted...

Ammonitida posted...

What punishment (if any) do you guys feel the boy should get?

Be forced to watch letplays for the rest of his life.

Be forced to help raise another sister.

'merica fuck yeah!
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I better use this tragedy to push my liberal view on guns because Im unhinged!
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Caution999 posted...

I better use this tragedy to push my liberal view on guns because Im unhinged!

Saying that the parents failed with their gun safety will just make pro-gunners stick their fingers in their ears and scream that the Government will take their guns.
Saying that it is time to fix the social problems this country got will just make everybody scream that it is communism and thereby extremely bad.
And the third part believes that this would have never happened if the family had had more guns.
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We have already had a few politicians come out this week and say theyre literally trying to repeal the second amendment and/or take away guns.

If Dems are trying to lose it would be best if they got all of the gun supporters out of the wood work to come out and vote.

NRA has already seen a massive increase in followers and supporters in the last few weeks.

I am of the firm belief the second you severely limit the 2nd amendment or take it away entirely, the first one will be next to follow. Before it was we arent taking away your guns and tomorrow its relax we arent taking away the first amendment because we got rid of the second.

All this hysteria about gun control is having the opposite effect. I will bet more people are buying guns more than ever.
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I think their daughter dying is enough punishment for the parents. Perhaps they won't be so careless in the future.
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Hmm. This reminds of an episode of criminal minds. A young boy kills his little brother because he had broken his model plane. After he killed him, he stuffed pieces of the model plane down his throat. He felt no remorse or empathy. They said he was sociopath. This kid is probably the same way. If I was the parents I'd put him in an orphanage somewhere far away.
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Foppe posted...

Caution999 posted...

I better use this tragedy to push my liberal view on guns because Im unhinged!

Saying that the parents failed with their gun safety will just make pro-gunners stick their fingers in their ears and scream that the Government will take their guns.
Saying that it is time to fix the social problems this country got will just make everybody scream that it is communism and thereby extremely bad.
And the third part believes that this would have never happened if the family had had more guns.

You're first two points are actually really good, perhaps better than you think, but your 3rd joke point ruins it.

Its too bad communism has such a bad rep.
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Seaman_Prime posted...

Ammonitida posted...

What punishment (if any) do you guys feel the boy should get?

Be forced to watch letplays for the rest of his life.

Be forced to help raise another sister.

This reminds me of an article I read at least ten years ago about some kids that were skipping school and were at home playing videos games and one of them shot another because he was bothering him.

How was a 9 year old even able to easily get access to a gun to begin with?
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DoomSwell posted...

Foppe posted...

Caution999 posted...

I better use this tragedy to push my liberal view on guns because Im unhinged!

Saying that the parents failed with their gun safety will just make pro-gunners stick their fingers in their ears and scream that the Government will take their guns.
Saying that it is time to fix the social problems this country got will just make everybody scream that it is communism and thereby extremely bad.
And the third part believes that this would have never happened if the family had had more guns.

You're first two points are actually really good, perhaps better than you think, but your 3rd joke point ruins it.

Its too bad communism has such a bad rep.

It is no joke, it is how Americans react.
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Title would've been more accurate and easier to fit if it was "shot and killed" rather than "shoot in the head"

02fran posted...

Title would've been more accurate and easier to fit if it was "shot and killed" rather than "shoot in the head"

I don't think she died at the time.
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BJ-blazkowics posted...

This wouldn't have happened if the sister had a gun too.

Didn't have siblings your age? No person who does would say such a thing.
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fenderbender321 posted...

TheBiggerWiggle posted...

Watch morons like Trump still deny our country has a gun problem. The guardians of those kids deserve life sentences.

Statistically speaking, we don't have a gun problem. Gun death rates are practically at historically all time lows. And over time, we keep heading further in that direction despite the fact that we haven't passed strict gun control.

That's why I'm against gun control. Some day, society will solve the problem almost entirely (no country will ever be perfect) without taking away people's guns.

Really? In another topic you stated that accidental gun deaths "didn't really keep you up at night". So which is it? That its' not a concern (as Bill O'Reilly says) or it's getting less?

fenderbender321 posted...

It's both at the same time.

OK - so because the numbers have dropped some (11600 to 11100 over the last decade), you don't think there is any value to decreasing it further?

Especially within the area of accidental deaths/suicides?

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fenderbender321 posted...

My point is that they drop (and don't just look over the last decade, look over the past 50 years, and then the past 100 and 200 years) despite the fact that guns are still easy to obtain by almost anybody. It proves that people can solve problems over time without the iron fist of the government.

Yes, but there is clear evidence that the problem could be solved even further (especially within the area of accidental deaths/suicides). As you said, maybe it will go down from 8 to 6.. but it would be even better if it went down from 8 to 4 ( just using numbers I pick to illustrate). It doesn't have to be "iron fist", but don't you believe the future deaths of the children that find their parents guns are worth some legislation? Government legislation with seat belts and car seats were shown to do this.

fenderbender321 posted...

Sure, they're worth some legislation. As long as it isn't anything that has to do with our rights to own guns. Everything has a cost.

For example, we could save most lives by just ordering everyone to live in a cage when they aren't at work, and then having guards and police and stuff everywhere to enforce it. But is that the kind of life you'd want to live? It's an extreme example, but I'd say that restricting gun ownership is pretty extreme too.

I may not have been clear in my previous post - going to extreme examples and using phrases like "the iron first of the government" doesn't make me (or I would think most people) engage in a discussion with you.

Now - when you say "some legislation. As long as it isn't anything that has to do with our rights to own guns.", are you saying that you feel ANY new laws regarding guns/ammunition/etc is not worth the potential benefit of less accidental shootings/killing/suicides?

-Unowninator- posted...

02fran posted...

Title would've been more accurate and easier to fit if it was "shot and killed" rather than "shoot in the head"

I don't think she died at the time.

It says it in the article. Unless it was updated?

fenderbender321 posted...

Ruvan22 posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

Sure, they're worth some legislation. As long as it isn't anything that has to do with our rights to own guns. Everything has a cost.

For example, we could save most lives by just ordering everyone to live in a cage when they aren't at work, and then having guards and police and stuff everywhere to enforce it. But is that the kind of life you'd want to live? It's an extreme example, but I'd say that restricting gun ownership is pretty extreme too.

I may not have been clear in my previous post - going to extreme examples and using phrases like "the iron first of the government" doesn't make me (or I would think most people) engage in a discussion with you.

Now - when you say "some legislation. As long as it isn't anything that has to do with our rights to own guns.", are you saying that you feel ANY new laws regarding guns/ammunition/etc is not worth the potential benefit of less accidental shootings/killing/suicides?

If I don't take a hard stance, then the crowd on the other side will simply draw more lines in the sand and demand more and more be taken away.

Let me be clear, the reduction of gun deaths will never reach a level where most gun control advocates will say "okay, that's good enough. We promise no more restrictions." That won't happen. They will push and push until every last gun is banned. That's why the NRA does what it does. It has to.

So with that said, no I don't think it's worth the benefit. I think we should make people become better parents and instill better practice and discipline upon people instead of having the government step in and play the role of nanny. The more the government does that, the less it forces people to try and be good parents. And the more that happens, the more society falls the fuck apart.

Really? The NRA is the one who diametrically opposes ANY research into gun death, let alone legislation. What makes your statement more accurate than "the increase of gun deaths will never reach a level where most gun advocates will say "okay, that's good enough. We think there should be some restrictions." That won't happen. They will push and push until every last gun legislation is banned."

As for your second point, if that is where you stand then I suppose there's nothing more for us (you and I) to really discuss - I think Bill O'Reilly phrased it the same way, something to the effect "There will always be deaths associated with gun ownership and that's a cost I'm willing to pay"

fenderbender321 posted...

Freedom isn't free.

This is true. This one time, some sketchy person in a trench coat offered me freedom, which I didn't already have at the time. Naturally, I was interested... but at the same time skeptical. I figured it would come at a price, so I decided to cut right to the chase and I just asked the dude, "What's it gonna cost me." He thought for a moment and then replied in a thick Scottish accent, "Usually I charge five dollars, but for you... I'll give it to ya for about tree fiddy." That's when I noticed he had a reptilian tail protruding from his trench coat, his skin was green and scaly and he stood several stories tall.
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fenderbender321 posted...

Freedom isn't free.

If you don't pitch in your buck-oh-five, who will?

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Ruvan22 posted...

Really? The NRA is the one who diametrically opposes ANY research into gun death, let alone legislation. What makes your statement more accurate than "the increase of gun deaths will never reach a level where most gun advocates will say "okay, that's good enough. We think there should be some restrictions." That won't happen. They will push and push until every last gun legislation is banned."

They don't, like the ESA, they oppose biased studies and "studies" with predertermined results, they are also closer to looking for an actual middle ground than wanting one of two extremes.
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Seaman_Prime posted...

Ammonitida posted...

What punishment (if any) do you guys feel the boy should get?

Be forced to watch letplays for the rest of his life.

Be forced to help raise another sister

Seaman_Prime posted...

Ammonitida posted...

What punishment (if any) do you guys feel the boy should get?

Be forced to watch letplays for the rest of his life.

Be forced to help raise another sister