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Kaname_Madoka
03/25/18 12:36:49 PM
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Well?
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foreveraIone
03/25/18 12:37:03 PM
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ur 16
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foreveraIone
03/25/18 12:38:14 PM
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who posetd
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Kaname_Madoka
03/25/18 12:38:31 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
lol i think you may have a point

thanks friend
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SGT_Conti
03/25/18 12:38:56 PM
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"I'm not a lazy millennial like everyone else, I'm one of the only hard-working ones."
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foreveraIone
03/25/18 12:39:37 PM
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@CrimsonRage

pls respond
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Gafemage
03/25/18 12:40:00 PM
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Classical Liberal... the political label for true geniouses...
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masterpug53
03/25/18 12:40:12 PM
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But what if I'm a centrist and I'm just like all the other girls?
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The Admiral
03/25/18 12:41:24 PM
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Haven't heard that one. Although "leftist" is the new "I'm a liberal who thinks he's better than other liberals."
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Mal_Fet
03/25/18 12:41:38 PM
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What do you call someone whose political ideologies are neither predominantly left or right
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Antifar
03/25/18 12:42:06 PM
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Gafemage posted...
Classical Liberal... the political label for true geniouses...

lol
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Kaname_Madoka
03/25/18 12:42:41 PM
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Antifar posted...
Gafemage posted...
Classical Liberal... the political label for true geniouses...

lol

pfffft
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TommyG663513
03/25/18 12:44:14 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
What do you call someone whose political ideologies are neither predominantly left or right


You certainly don't call them Mal_Fet
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LinksLiege
03/25/18 12:45:03 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
What do you call someone whose political ideologies are neither predominantly left or right

You mock them because anyone who doesn't slavishly devote themselves to a group must not care about anything.

That's how groups work. They're such useful things.
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Mal_Fet
03/25/18 12:46:34 PM
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LinksLiege posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
What do you call someone whose political ideologies are neither predominantly left or right

You mock them because anyone who doesn't slavishly devote themselves to a group must not care about anything.

That's how groups work. They're such useful things.

I'm not mocking anyone here, just pointing out that centrists do actually exist
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masterpug53
03/25/18 12:46:38 PM
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Antifar posted...
Gafemage posted...
Classical Liberal... the political label for true geniouses...

lol


Maybe they're special liherals that listened to Mozart in the womb?
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Gafemage
03/25/18 12:46:59 PM
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Antifar posted...
Gafemage posted...
Classical Liberal... the political label for true geniouses...

lol

When he says hes a classical liberal...
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foreveraIone
03/25/18 12:47:23 PM
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turns out everyone wants to be a snowflake
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lesidesi
03/25/18 12:47:46 PM
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neTTfas
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LinksLiege
03/25/18 12:48:03 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
I'm not mocking anyone here, just pointing out that centrists do actually exist

I was just making an observation on what some people do.
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Prestoff
03/25/18 12:48:28 PM
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Gafemage posted...
Classical Liberal... the political label for true geniouses...


LOL

Yeah there seems to be a lot of conservative-leaning users claiming this title for some reason.
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Mal_Fet
03/25/18 12:50:02 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Gafemage posted...
Classical Liberal... the political label for true geniouses...


LOL

Yeah there seems to be a lot of conservative-leaning users claiming this title for some reason.

Probably the ones who are secular and believe in preserving and expanding liberty, the root word of "liberal".
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The Admiral
03/25/18 12:51:55 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Gafemage posted...
Classical Liberal... the political label for true geniouses...


LOL

Yeah there seems to be a lot of conservative-leaning users claiming this title for some reason.


"Classic liberalism" actually refers to free market types who want uncontrolled freedom of speech and limited government, and it's quite detached from modern western liberals. Some countries have political parties that have reclaimed this title and named it neo-liberalism.
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Error1355
03/25/18 12:53:32 PM
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Nia Jax?
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MaverickXeo
03/25/18 12:55:39 PM
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lesidesi posted...
neTTfas


You can be against some conservative ideals but for some liberal ideals. That is what a 'centrist' is.
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tennisdude818
03/25/18 12:58:04 PM
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Neither the mainstream left or the mainstream right are ideologically consistent worldviews. If you totally buy into the Hillary Clinton or Mitt Romney worldview, you are intellectually lazy.
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Renault
03/25/18 12:58:33 PM
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anime was a mistake and tc is a child
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YourDrunkFather
03/25/18 1:02:47 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
What do you call someone whose political ideologies are neither predominantly left or right


Nazi or white supremacist
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GiftedACIII
03/25/18 1:03:47 PM
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It's a valid position. Unfortunately the majority of people using it nowadays seem to be obvious conservatives or alt righters using it to cover up how embarrassing their party has been the past few years.
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Punctus_Pilot
03/25/18 1:04:53 PM
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Does mal still claim to be a centrist?
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Gafemage
03/25/18 1:07:42 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...
It's a valid position. Unfortunately the majority of people using it nowadays seem to be obvious conservatives or alt righters using it to cover up how embarrassing their party has been the past few years.

Yeah, this is pretty on point.
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ItsYourFault
03/25/18 1:13:45 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
What do you call someone whose political ideologies are neither predominantly left or right


You certainly don't call them Mal_Fet

or Admiral
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ItsYourFault
03/25/18 1:14:44 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
there's a difference between that and saying "both sides are bad and i am enlightened for never taking a side"

taking a side? way to tribalize it.

right and left democrat republican are all bullshit social constructs.

its about policy
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ThyCorndog
03/25/18 1:18:26 PM
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I'm a moderate *always votes the same party*
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Antifar
03/25/18 1:45:10 PM
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Thing about "centrism" or being a "moderate" is that those are defined more by what you aren't than by an actual set of views. What's more, they are relative terms; the center of American politics is not the center of British politics or French politics.

These things mean you can't really tell anything about a person's actual views from the label of "centrist." These people have opinions and views, and there are words that better describe what those views are. We should use those words instead, for clarity's sake.
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Key
03/25/18 1:47:40 PM
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What about people who just don't care to be apart of either group. Granted I don't vote at all I don't really care about who wins
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EnragedSlith
03/25/18 1:48:17 PM
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Antifar
03/25/18 1:52:19 PM
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Key posted...
What about people who just don't care to be apart of either group. Granted I don't vote at all I don't really care about who wins

You're not a centrist; you're uninterested
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CircleOfManias
03/25/18 2:10:08 PM
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Centrists in Nazi Germany: "Both sides are too extreme, we should kill half the Jews."

Centrists in Civil War-era US: "Both sides are too extreme, we should free half the slaves."
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foreveraIone
03/25/18 2:35:34 PM
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CircleOfManias posted...
Centrists in Nazi Germany: "Both sides are too extreme, we should kill half the Jews."

Centrists in Civil War-era US: "Both sides are too extreme, we should free half the slaves."

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knutjob
03/25/18 3:01:36 PM
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I don't actively consider myself a centrist bit I tend to reject the pick a side mentality because I hate the group think philosophy of if you support a, you must also support b, c and do. Just figure out where you stand on issues and which ones are most important to you and vote for whoever best represents that. The whole tribalism crap is superfluous and only there to cater to insecurity. It also tends to lead to over simplicity of issues and a harder time engaging constructively with those on the opposite side of an issue. For example, I hate abortion, but pro lifers in my country want to ban the pre-natal treatment that saved my son's life. Issues are complicated and if you give proper thought to your feelings on them, you'll find they are complicated too.
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Anteaterking
03/25/18 3:05:19 PM
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"I'm a centrist" is a close sibling of "I'm socially liberal, but fiscally conservative", which is typically just a Republican who doesn't want to auto-lose on things like gay rights.

16-BITTER posted...
Like, "centrist" suggests that the person's ideology lies precisely between the two extremes


Center can be an interval. It doesn't have to be a point.
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Annihilated
03/25/18 3:10:29 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
"I'm a centrist" is a close sibling of "I'm socially liberal, but fiscally conservative", which is typically just a Republican who doesn't want to auto-lose on things like gay rights.


This says more about you than it does about them. In fact, most of the anti-centrists tend to be genuinely horrible and malicious people.
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Antifar
03/25/18 3:11:34 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
"I'm a centrist" is a close sibling of "I'm socially liberal, but fiscally conservative", which is typically just a Republican who doesn't want to auto-lose on things like gay rights.

And what was wrong with "libertarian?"
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thanosibe
03/25/18 3:13:05 PM
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Antifar posted...
Thing about "centrism" or being a "moderate" is that those are defined more by what you aren't than by an actual set of views. What's more, they are relative terms; the center of American politics is not the center of British politics or French politics.

These things mean you can't really tell anything about a person's actual views from the label of "centrist." These people have opinions and views, and there are words that better describe what those views are. We should use those words instead, for clarity's sake.
American shills for partisan politics can't grasp someone not taking either side because they're whole existence is tied to the political party they support. So the only recourse they have is to belittle or devalue someone with moderate political views to somehow drag them into their grade school antics that are partisan.
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lesidesi
03/25/18 3:14:05 PM
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Antifar
03/25/18 3:15:09 PM
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thanosibe posted...
So the only recourse they have is to belittle or devalue someone with moderate political views to someone drag them into their grade school antics that are partisan.

It's not about being partisan. it's about the fact that these people have a worldview that labels like "moderate" don't do an effective job of describing.
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