Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 435: Daniel Bryan Cleared! A Rusev Day Miracle

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Hardcore_Adult posted...

I wonder; had this Enzo mess not happened; would we be getting the moderately decent product currently being farmed out under Maverick in Kayfabe, HHH IRL?

Yes but it would have taken longer. Enzo would have to 100% wear out his Vince appeal
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Now Slaughter's return wasn't that bad. It set up Savage/Warrior at Mania. Warrior being more pissed at Savage than he was Slaughter.

However, Slaughter's feud with Hogan dragged on into September on UK Tours.
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To be honest, Earthquake was probably the #3 heel in 1990 over Perfect

Still
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Jakyl25 posted...

Hardcore_Adult posted...

I wonder; had this Enzo mess not happened; would we be getting the moderately decent product currently being farmed out under Maverick in Kayfabe, HHH IRL?

Yes but it would have taken longer. Enzo would have to 100% wear out his Vince appeal

That's something that can take an awfully long time
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Imagine trying to make Enzo fit in under this new direction
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Hardcore_Adult posted...

However, Slaughter's feud with Hogan dragged on into September on UK Tours.

A feud built entirely around the Gulf War lasted like 5 times longer than the war itself
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Jakyl25 posted...

To be honest, Earthquake was probably the #3 heel in 1990 over Perfect

Still

His program with Hogan was okay, even if their SS match was kind of silly w/ the Countout finish.

That was actively the first time someone could put Hogan out for a while. Something Piper, Bundy, Andre, Savage or even Dino Bravo (Who had his number on the house show circuit via Bearhugs) couldn't do.

I still wince when I see Hogan take that drop on the Brother love show, Not so much the move but, I'm left thinking "Hope Tenta/Quake washed today!" as he's basically got his crotch in his face!
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Got done w/ NXT.

Pumped for Gargano/Ciampa at Takeover Next week.

Whatever the outcome, I'm sure I'll be a great PHYSICAL match where neither man is the same after and to slam the door on this feud properly.
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Hardcore_Adult posted...

I still wince when I see Hogan take that drop on the Brother love show, Not so much the move but, I'm left thinking "Hope Tenta/Quake washed today!" as he's basically got his crotch in his face!

The video package about it is a true hidden treasure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUD6hjAiOLk" data-time="

IN-CRED-I-BLE

Youd think America lost to the Nazis based on the melodrama they put together here about Hogan getting sat on by a fat man
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^ Then again that's not the first questionable position Hogan's wound up in. Test strength spot v Warrior during the title Match several month earlier where UW... is down on his knees, in front of Hulk, no less

Man, I'd hate to be the poor bugger trying to explain that to someone who walked in!
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Ive mentioned this before but its been a long time

Hogan vs Warrior at WM6 was the first wrestling match I ever saw. My cousins had rented it on VHS later that year and we watched it at their house. I was 9. Hooked for life.

And yet my favorite wrestler pretty immediately after digging deeper was Bret Hart. Odd.
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^ Bret was my fave around age 8. SVS '92 is the first PPV I can remember clearly. Aunt (who I'm no longer talking to due some family garbage, mostly her being toxic) had Sky, which was in its infancy in those days and had Sky Sports due to being a massive fan of Tennis and also wrestling and recorded PPVs for me and my brother.
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I started watching wrestling in the late 90s when I was around 10ish, I watched WCW mainly because WWF stuff was on at a weird time where I was. I remember being a big fan of Sting and DDP, and being lukewarm on Goldberg despite being pretty much exactly the demographic that should have thought he was the coolest thing ever.
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The first wrestling match I ever saw was a VHS copy of the 1998 Royal Rumble match, but weirdly I started with WCW. I think I'll always have a softer spot for WCW than WWE.
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I remember being legit upset when Macho passed out in that Figure four against Flair and when Bret got salted by Fuji at WMIX and Hogan came down to play the big man.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

The first wrestling match I ever saw was a VHS copy of the 1998 Royal Rumble match, but weirdly I started with WCW. I think I'll always have a softer spot for WCW than WWE.

Could you guess even with no prior knowledge that Austin would win?
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Jakyl25 posted...

Also, WM was not on pace to sell out until a bunch of tickets started moving after SD last week, and now theres fewer than 1000 left.

Will Vince see this as evidence that Bryan is a draw?

lol

I doubt it. In Vince's mind, that's just people who are buying tickets to see an injured Roman get his revenge against a healthy Brock.

Very interesting stat though, for those of us that are sane.
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Jakyl25 posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

The first wrestling match I ever saw was a VHS copy of the 1998 Royal Rumble match, but weirdly I started with WCW. I think I'll always have a softer spot for WCW than WWE.

Could you guess even with no prior knowledge that Austin would win?

I wanted him to win, but I don't think, as a child, that I framed things in that context. He and Mick Foley just seemed awesome when I was a kid.
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if I were to want to watch NXT and 205 Live before mania builds where would I start or what are the important episodes
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ScareChan posted...

if I were to want to watch NXT and 205 Live before mania builds where would I start or what are the important episodes

Start with the first episode of NXT after Takeover in January and the first episode of 205 Live featuring the Cruiserweight Tournament.
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Jakyl25 posted...

To be honest, Earthquake was probably the #3 heel in 1990 over Perfect

Still

Earthquake was still really good in 1990. His promo work surprised the shit out of me.
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Ive said this before but my very first wrestling match was Bret Hart fighting Kamalas handler and I was instantly hooked but then in what can only be described as a reverse Jakyl, I watched older PPV tapes and became just the most diehard hulkamaniac.

I marked out in a completely absurd way for Mania IXs ending at the time.
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Eddv posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

To be honest, Earthquake was probably the #3 heel in 1990 over Perfect

Still

Earthquake was still really good in 1990. His promo work surprised the shit out of me.

And that's not even the height of his promo work!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX-drFUI1ZI" data-time="&start=113

"I'm not a fish!"
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Jakyl25 posted...

Hogan vs Warrior at WM6 was the first wrestling match I ever saw. My cousins had rented it on VHS later that year and we watched it at their house. I was 9. Hooked for life.

And yet my favorite wrestler pretty immediately after digging deeper was Bret Hart. Odd.

That's me pretty closely. I'm not sure Hogan/Warrior was the first match I actually saw-- I suspect not-- but it's the first match I remember watching. And yeah Bret Hart was my favorite back then-- probably in large part due to King of the Ring 1993 being the first PPV I remember watching in full.
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ScareChan posted...

if I were to want to watch NXT and 205 Live before mania builds where would I start or what are the important episodes

205L: About a week after Enzo got canned

NXT - Fuck knows! Maybe Post-previous Takeover?
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Eddv posted...

Kamalas handler

Spoilers it was just Brooklyn Brawler in a mask <_<
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I know it was.

My first wrestling match featured the fucking Brooklyn Brawler.
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^ Don't knock Lombardi. He knocked off Hunter in 2000.

With the help of his Tag Team Partners Kaientai and an interfering Jericho, but the win's still in the books!
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I watched Hogan/Warrior live in scramblevision and was crapping myself because I didn;t know who to root for. I was a total mark for everything WWF back then. My first match was Hogan/Shiek re-match in 84 (I think) with the boot. It was perfect for my sensibilities - "hey that guy is cheating he has spiked boots. Oh the good guy took the spiked boot and gouged the crap out of the bad guy. Yay good guys!"

My other early favorites were the dumb good guys. I don't mean the hot headed guys that cost themselves matches by getting ticked off at Jimmy Hart or Cornette. I mean the mentally disabled guys like JYD and George the Animal and the Bushwackers.

I thought the loud mouthed heel manager routine was awful and boring and obvious. Guy jumps on the apron, ref hyperfocuses on him, good guy gets distracted, heel cheats, rinse lather repeat. But have the faces be mentally incompetent (this is a stretch for JYD but when I was a kid I was sure that dude thought he was a legit dog) was quite intriguing. I also liked Kamala a lot even though he was usually a heel. People who have to compete without having complete control of their executive functions - I liked that as a kid.
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John Pollock of Post Wrestling interviewed Russell Naquin of the Louisiana Boxing & Wrestling Commission (via wrestlinginc.com), and revealed that piledrivers and blood are prohibited on pro wrestling events statewide, due to an incident, which injured a competitor several years ago. It has also been revealed that the following moves are banned in the state, and that the bans will be enforced over WrestleMania weekend

1. All variations of the Pile Driver;
2. All variations of the Power Bomb;
3. The Moonsault, Shooting Star, or 450 Splash or any variation thereof which involves one wrestler, leaping or flipping off the ropes or turnbuckles to contact the head or neck of the opponent with any part of his body;
4. The Stungun of any variation thereof which results in the one fighters head or neck being dragged, draped or closelined [sic] across the ropes;
5. The striking of a wrestlers head with any object, chair, trashcan [sic] lid, etc., and
6. No wrestler shall throw, push, shove or force another out of the ring or over the top rope.

The commission rules also state the following: The Commission Official [on site] may, at his sole discretion, allow wrestlers to perform prohibited holds, moves or maneuvers listed above, provided permission is sought and obtained prior to the event by both wrestlers and the requesting wrestlers have sufficient training, athletic ability and experience to perform the maneuver without endangering one another.

The commission has stated that WWE & ROH are not subject to the bans, due to being major league promotions.
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Weve been over this
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I'm quickly learning how many people don't read the topic.

Also, according to Dave, the only rules that are going to be enforced are the blood rule and the piledriver rule, and that they are going to strongly frown upon fan brawling.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

I'm quickly learning how many people don't read the topic.

it's true I usually only read like the most recent post when I check in
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hey guys I heard there are banned moves in louisiana also roman reigns sucks
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can you tell me about these banned moves? That concerns me greatly
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Can Louisiana ban Roman Reigns?
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Ban the Superman Punch and you've done 90% of the work.
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I want to see Roman beat Brock only with Spears and Drivebys.

How Roman gets Brock into position for either move without the Superman Punch will be a mystery!
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Spears do work on Brock.
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https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/979781691475505152?s=21

"Anyone that fails to improve there isn't on us ... the tools are there." - Triple H on talent at the Performance Center

NO QUESTIONING THE KING OF KINGS
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But how do you explain guys improving far more with less tools outside the PC then?

Poor CJ Parker.
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EC3's success can clearly be attributed to NXT the first time around.>_>
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voltch posted...

But how do you explain guys improving far more with less tools outside the PC then?

Poor CJ Parker.

Sami Callihan has certainly been opening some eyes since he left

..wait, wait, Im sorry, I got that backwards
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/979781691475505152?s=21

"Anyone that fails to improve there isn't on us ... the tools are there." - Triple H on talent at the Performance Center

NO QUESTIONING THE KING OF KINGS

Doesn't that even just suggest poor scouting then? Like, either way, the PC's doing something wrong.

There must be a reason the NJ dojo is spitting out better workers with better crowd connection than any PC project.
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I like the sentiment from Triple H earlier in that thread that Adam Cole has improved a lot since he got to WWE

Really? Youre taking credit for him now?
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Jakyl25 posted...

Sami Callihan has certainly been opening some eyes since he left

Eddie Edwards would say the opposite.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Sami Callihan has certainly been opening some eyes since he left

Eddie Edwards would say the opposite.

Thats the joke
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Isn't the WWE scouting network whoever has the top rated gifs on reddit?
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voltch posted...

Isn't the WWE scouting network whoever has the top rated gifs on reddit?

Gonna be a lot of dogs and kittens debuting soon
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But how big are these dogs?
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