Current Events > I feel like the conservative response to David Hogg is a bit much.

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Antifar
03/30/18 1:28:24 PM
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foreveraIone
03/30/18 1:32:18 PM
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yeah. the problem with the GOP isn't trump. Its not bigotry. Its really the fact that the base is batshit insane.
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Giant_Aspirin
03/30/18 1:33:29 PM
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but the free market response to Laura Ingraham has been glorious
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UnfairRepresent
03/30/18 1:34:58 PM
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Veggeta X
03/30/18 1:35:02 PM
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Surprised Fox is still keeping her. She just cost them literally billions.
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DifferentialEquation
03/30/18 1:36:14 PM
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I feel like the liberal response towards the NRA is a bit much.
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MC_BatCommander
03/30/18 1:38:00 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
I feel like the liberal response towards the NRA is a bit much.


how do you feel about the conservative response to david hogg
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creativerealms
03/30/18 1:39:07 PM
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The idea is if they take down the kid who is the center of this movement that the whole movement will fall. It is flawed logic at it's core.
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Giant_Aspirin
03/30/18 1:39:51 PM
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Anteaterking
03/30/18 1:42:34 PM
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I don't know how you can construe a teenager with no real power responding to a nationally broadcast TV show host mocking him by getting people to pressure advertisers he has no real power over to take ads away from that host as "bullying".

Also the words they use to describe Hogg like "whiney" and "sour demeanor" don't seem like very accurate descriptions of brownshirts.
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Antifar
03/30/18 1:43:11 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
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The opinion is a bit much
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50Blessings
03/30/18 1:45:25 PM
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I wish David Hogg would go away, he makes everyone look bad.
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DarkProto05
03/30/18 1:45:35 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Surprised Fox is still keeping her. She just cost them literally billions.

Really? How?

That's what Fox gets for having an idiot like her around.
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A_Good_Boy
03/30/18 1:46:53 PM
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50Blessings posted...
I wish David Hogg would go away, he makes everyone look bad.

How so?
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StucklnMyPants
03/30/18 1:47:01 PM
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creativerealms posted...
The idea is if they take down the kid who is the center of this movement that the whole movement will fall. It is flawed logic at it's core.

Nah. I think the idea is to defend yourself from a Twitter campaign that's going after your advertisers. Dude's acting like a douche tbqh, and he's already using the left's favorite tactic: shut down any opposing views, in anyway possible. If you want to express your thoughts and ideas, then fine, but telling others what to think and then going after people's livelihoods when they don't fall in line, is disgusting.
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DifferentialEquation
03/30/18 1:47:43 PM
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ItMC_BatCommander posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
I feel like the liberal response towards the NRA is a bit much.


how do you feel about the conservative response to david hogg


David Hogg was trashing the NRA, Dana Loesch and Marco Rubio. When he apologizes and admits he was wrong then I'll admonish any further character attacks on him.
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Anteaterking
03/30/18 1:47:51 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
I think the idea is to defend yourself from a Twitter campaign that's going after your advertisers.


What started the Twitter campaign to go after your advertisers?
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Veggeta X
03/30/18 1:47:55 PM
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Uhhh they lost a ton of advertising parties.
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creativerealms
03/30/18 1:48:39 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
creativerealms posted...
The idea is if they take down the kid who is the center of this movement that the whole movement will fall. It is flawed logic at it's core.

Nah. I think the idea is to defend yourself from a Twitter campaign that's going after your advertisers. Dude's acting like a douche tbqh, and he's already using the left's favorite tactic: shut down any opposing views, in anyway possible. If you want to express your thoughts and ideas, then fine, but telling others what to think and then going after people's livelihoods when they don't fall in line, is disgusting.

I wasn't defending him.
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CruelBuffalo
03/30/18 1:51:25 PM
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There needs to be a moratorium on the word Nazi, and the shitty allusion the author did to Nazi Germany was stupid.

Anyway what she said honestly wasnt that bad, she stated a fact, but came across as super petty. Hes coming across as petty, but hes a teen so they are petty.

My issue is, the kid is using up his good will (lets be real the public can only take so much of people) to fight someone because they tweeted the equivalent of \_()_/ about him being rejected. He should focus his effort and energy on gun legislation
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Veggeta X
03/30/18 1:53:14 PM
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creativerealms
03/30/18 1:53:36 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
ItMC_BatCommander posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
I feel like the liberal response towards the NRA is a bit much.


how do you feel about the conservative response to david hogg


David Hogg was trashing the NRA, Dana Loesch and Marco Rubio. When he apologizes and admits he was wrong then I'll admonish any further character attacks on him.

Uh the NRA, Dana Loesch, and Marco Rubio deserve to be trashed.
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spudger
03/30/18 1:53:48 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
yeah. the problem with the GOP isn't trump. Its not bigotry. Its really the fact that the base is batshit insane.

Its all 3
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Anteaterking
03/30/18 1:56:24 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
My issue is, the kid is using up his good will (lets be real the public can only take so much of people) to fight someone because they tweeted the equivalent of \_()_/ about him being rejected. He should focus his effort and energy on gun legislation


I don't think he used up good will tbh, because him getting attacked by GOP pundits/Fox News anchors renews some of his good will with people.

It would be different if he was just trying to get Ingraham to lose sponsors because she supports gun rights as they currently are. Then people's good will sort of dries up when they start to feel like someone's personal army. But if you're defending a kid who is being attacked, it feels much different.
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CruelBuffalo
03/30/18 1:59:47 PM
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attacked by GOP pundits/Fox News anchors renews some of his good will with people.


I mean, wouldnt those type of people already been on his side? (Just speculating of course). My more moderate friends who arent very political have been posting on FB theyre annoyed with the kid. Just my two cents
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Anteaterking
03/30/18 2:00:54 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
I mean, wouldnt those type of people already been on his side? (Just speculating of course). My more moderate friends who arent very political have been posting on FB theyre annoyed with the kid. Just my two cents


Aren't we talking about people who are "on his side"?

I don't think the battle with Ingraham wins him people who weren't already supporting him, but we're talking about those people good will towards him, not his ability to convert more gun supporters.
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Romulox28
03/30/18 2:05:06 PM
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let's be real here, conservatives hate david hogg because he is personable & is not afraid to compete in the same arena as adults.
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Drunk Cobra
03/30/18 2:08:45 PM
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What the fuck was she thinking there?
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andel
03/30/18 2:09:23 PM
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he is great. anyone that makes scumbags like ingraham and her ilk squirm is doing a good job. people attacking him for using his platform for what he believes in are generally whiny babies
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50Blessings
03/30/18 2:12:02 PM
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I find him to be an annoying high school kid but the conservative reaction to him has been nothing short of insane.


This is how I feel. Conservatives shouldn't be getting upset cause the fact anyone is taking him as a serious figurehead is hilarious.

But we're in Trumps America now so this is what happens :/
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Veggeta X
03/30/18 2:14:07 PM
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I dunno why yall are so befundled with this. Repubs and Fox News been hating on young people.
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CommonStar
03/30/18 2:14:34 PM
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I think the kid is pretty great. He's not afraid of going up against Fox News and people like Laura Ingraham and Rush Limbaugh, and he's not afraid of the NRA. And it isn't even a partisan thing as these kids wants bipartisanship on gun control. Even sensible conservatives are supporting them, and it's just funny to see how these kids scare the gun nuts to the point where they're unable to debate them and instead resort to ad hominem attacks.
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Antifar
03/30/18 2:18:04 PM
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Just very much a calm and rational reaction to teenagers whose school was shot up
https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/979716276216999936
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50Blessings
03/30/18 2:18:07 PM
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Has he actually gone one on one with anyone that wasn't on CNN?

Last I recalled he kept refusing to go on these shows and the usual suspects praised him for it, but that was like 3 weeks ago when Alex Jones wanted him to come on so maybe he ended up going on those shows?
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andel
03/30/18 2:18:50 PM
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CommonStar posted...
I think the kid is pretty great. He's not afraid of going up against Fox News and people like Laura Ingraham and Rush Limbaugh, and he's not afraid of the NRA. And it isn't even a partisan thing as these kids wants bipartisanship on gun control. Even sensible conservatives are supporting them, and it's just funny to see how these kids scare the gun nuts to the point where they're unable to debate them and instead resort to ad hominem attacks.


this really is a good description. i am generally liberal but i do support the right to own guns but think we absolutely need more restrictions. i disagree with hogg on banning the ar15 but he absolutely has a right to speak his mind without being labeled literally hitler by alex jones and attacked mercilessly by these conservative shills
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Mr_Biscuit
03/30/18 2:20:46 PM
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Antifar posted...
Just very much a calm and rational reaction to teenagers whose school was shot up
https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/979716276216999936

Best part is all the replies from conservatives defending that tweet, literally bullying a kid for hiding during a school shooting.

We're literally living in an era of cartoon villains. The history books are gonna be really unkind.
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Pepys Monster
03/30/18 2:22:52 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
let's be real here, conservatives hate david hogg because he is personable & is not afraid to compete in the same arena as adults.

Translation: I hate guns and this kid hates guns too, therefore Im going to overlook how annoying and narcissistic he is.
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Romulox28
03/30/18 2:24:27 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Romulox28 posted...
let's be real here, conservatives hate david hogg because he is personable & is not afraid to compete in the same arena as adults.

Translation: I hate guns and this kid hates guns too, therefore Im going to overlook how annoying and narcissistic he is.

i am going to a shooting range after work today lol

his personal attributes are of no consequence to me, i care about the message and i dont think it's anything truly radical to be a survivor of a school shooting and advocate for stricter gun control. the conservative response to the parkland kids has been insane, honestly, and I think it stems from adults that are afraid that kids are now able to speak up on the same platforms they used to rule.
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andel
03/30/18 2:26:15 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
Romulox28 posted...
let's be real here, conservatives hate david hogg because he is personable & is not afraid to compete in the same arena as adults.

Translation: I hate guns and this kid hates guns too, therefore Im going to overlook how annoying and narcissistic he is.


i don't want to ban guns but hogg isn't a cowardly piece of shit like ingraham and alex jones who he owned after they attacked him like cowards. conservatives are mad that hogg is much smarter and better at life than them despite being a child
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545x39
03/30/18 2:31:34 PM
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He just wants his 15 minutes, something terrible will happen and America will forget him and goblina.
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UnfairRepresent
03/30/18 2:32:59 PM
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What the fuck was she thinking there?

"Imma do a Nazi salute lol"
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CommonStar
03/30/18 2:34:01 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
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What the fuck was she thinking there?

"Imma do a Nazi salute lol"

"crap, this is televised"
"quick! point. point. point."
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Doom_Art
03/30/18 2:39:38 PM
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I'm personally ambivalent to these kids mostly I guess.

But seeing the right and NRA being unable to employ their regular bully tactics and flail like this is nothing short of hilarious.
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Mr_Biscuit
03/30/18 2:47:46 PM
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Opening Twitter and constantly just seeing a barrage of cruel jokes about and photoshopped edits of school shooting survivors just really makes me deeply sad.

Especially when theres usually some comments from people in other countries like how can you people live like this? Ive never once even had to think about this stuff. Really highlights how cult-like half of America is, not criticizing but outright bullying shooting victims because they dare speak against the Almighty Gun. They will defend the SHOOTER to make the victims look bad. It is unbelievable.
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Antifar
03/30/18 2:47:58 PM
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CommonStar
03/30/18 2:49:04 PM
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Suddenly they care about bullying, but continues to bully the Parkland kids.
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