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Howl 04/02/18 9:36:43 AM #1:	NBC has gone full stupid. You never go full stupid. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/easter-sunday-christians-must-remember-how-easily-often-our-faith-ncna861796 --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:898917923] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>NBC has gone full stupid. You never go full stupid. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/easter-sunday-christians-must-remember-how-easily-often-our-faith-ncna861796</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 04/02/18 9:38:48 AM #2:	The demonization of Christianity is about complete now. Like, yeah, we all can agree pretty much every religion isn't perfect and yes, we were a nation set on Christian ideals (which may not be 'right'), but for fucks sake here. We're getting beyond the point of stupidity here. There's plenty of things to complain about with Christianity. This isn't one of them. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:898917995] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>The demonization of Christianity is about complete now. Like, yeah, we all can agree pretty much every religion isn't perfect and yes, we were a nation set on Christian ideals (which may not be 'right'), but for fucks sake here. We're getting beyond the point of stupidity here. There's plenty of things to complain about with Christianity. This isn't one of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 04/02/18 9:41:35 AM #3:	I hate how so so many christians go completely bananas about abortion and homosexuality. Like, really? That's not what christianity is about. Read the new testament. Where does Jesus even talk about this shit? It's completely missing the point of what was supposed to be a message of love --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:898918097] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>I hate how so so many christians go completely bananas about abortion and homosexuality. Like, really? That's not what christianity is about. Read the new testament. Where does Jesus even talk about this shit? It's completely missing the point of what was supposed to be a message of love</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/02/18 9:42:01 AM #4:	I dunno, the argument seems fairly simple to me: Easter Sunday, when Christians around the world celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ, is also and not accidentally a tragic anniversary in American history. On Easter Sunday 1873, 145 years ago, hundreds of white men in Colfax County, Louisiana, took up arms after Sunday morning worship services and marched to their county courthouse to reclaim control of the local government from representatives who had been democratically elected by black and white people voting together. Standing their ground in the hopes that federal reinforcements would arrive in time, every defender of democracy at the Colfax County courthouse was murdered. White Democrats across the South took their cue from this violent coup detat and developed the Mississippi Plan, which capitalized on the narrative of white fear to suppress black political power in the presidential election of 1876 and overturn Reconstruction through a compromise with Republican President Rutherford B. Hayes. This white supremacy campaign also sometimes goes by another name: the redemption movement. A white son of the South, I didnt learn this history when I was growing up. Without question, I got up before sunrise every Easter morning and went out to the graveyard behind our Southern Baptist church to hear the redemption story of how Jesus died to save us from our sins and then rose again, despite all odds. Redemption was our story of hope. As a child, I couldnt have imagined it becoming a justification for terrorism. But faith stories have power to catalyze movements for good as well as for evil in our world. Any serious attempt to grapple with American history must acknowledge that faith has played a role on both sides of our major struggles among the abolitionists and the defenders of slavery in the 19th century; among civil rights activists and segregationists in the 1950s and 1960s. And what is true about our past is at play in the present: Christianitys redemption narrative is being deployed again today toward disparate visions of what kind of nation America should become. As a white evangelical in this land, I cant celebrate Easter in 2018 without working to reclaim the concept of redemption from the forces that attempt to use my faith and its founding stories to defend white supremacy. Since he first emerged as a viable presidential candidate in the spring of 2016, Donald Trump seemed an obvious contradiction to the family values that evangelicals espouse. Yet exit polls suggest around 80 percent of white evangelicals voted for him in 2016 a higher percentage than George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan ever won. Over a year later, as the presidents approval ratings hover around 40 percent among the general public, 78 percent of white evangelicals still say they support Trump. Clearly, this is a matter of faith for an overwhelming majority of white evangelicals. Trumps own slogan Make America Great Again is a redemption story in a nutshell. It assumes a fall from which must now be saved. It may be tempting for some to point to 2008 and hang this white anxiety on Americas first black president. But Barack Obama, as a person, remains too popular among all Americans for this theory to be true. No, the redemption narrative that gave us Trump is not so much about Obama as it is about the black, brown and younger white coalition that made Obamas presidency possible. No one stated this white anxiety more clearly than Michele Bachmann, in an address to the Values Voter Summit before the 2016 election. Its a math problem of demographics, she noted, claiming this is the last election when we even have a chance to vote for somebody who will stand up for godly moral principles. As in Colfax County 145 years ago, faith didnt moderate white evangelicals desire to hold onto political power in 2016; it fueled their resolve to maintain control by any means necessary. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:898918111] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>I dunno, the argument seems fairly simple to me: <quote>Easter Sunday, when Christians around the world celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ, is also and not accidentally a tragic anniversary in American history. On Easter Sunday 1873, 145 years ago, hundreds of white men in Colfax County, Louisiana, took up arms after Sunday morning worship services and marched to their county courthouse to reclaim control of the local government from representatives who had been democratically elected by black and white people voting together. Standing their ground in the hopes that federal reinforcements would arrive in time, every defender of democracy at the Colfax County courthouse was murdered. White Democrats across the South took their cue from this violent coup detat and developed the Mississippi Plan, which capitalized on the narrative of white fear to suppress black political power in the presidential election of 1876 and overturn Reconstruction through a compromise with Republican President Rutherford B. Hayes. This white supremacy campaign also sometimes goes by another name: the redemption movement. A white son of the South, I didnt learn this history when I was growing up. Without question, I got up before sunrise every Easter morning and went out to the graveyard behind our Southern Baptist church to hear the redemption story of how Jesus died to save us from our sins and then rose again, despite all odds. Redemption was our story of hope. As a child, I couldnt have imagined it becoming a justification for terrorism. But faith stories have power to catalyze movements for good as well as for evil in our world. Any serious attempt to grapple with American history must acknowledge that faith has played a role on both sides of our major struggles among the abolitionists and the defenders of slavery in the 19th century; among civil rights activists and segregationists in the 1950s and 1960s. And what is true about our past is at play in the present: Christianitys redemption narrative is being deployed again today toward disparate visions of what kind of nation America should become. As a white evangelical in this land, I cant celebrate Easter in 2018 without working to reclaim the concept of redemption from the forces that attempt to use my faith and its founding stories to defend white supremacy. Since he first emerged as a viable presidential candidate in the spring of 2016, Donald Trump seemed an obvious contradiction to the family values that evangelicals espouse. Yet exit polls suggest around 80 percent of white evangelicals voted for him in 2016 a higher percentage than George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan ever won. Over a year later, as the presidents approval ratings hover around 40 percent among the general public, 78 percent of white evangelicals still say they support Trump. Clearly, this is a matter of faith for an overwhelming majority of white evangelicals. Trumps own slogan Make America Great Again is a redemption story in a nutshell. It assumes a fall from which must now be saved. It may be tempting for some to point to 2008 and hang this white anxiety on Americas first black president. But Barack Obama, as a person, remains too popular among all Americans for this theory to be true. No, the redemption narrative that gave us Trump is not so much about Obama as it is about the black, brown and younger white coalition that made Obamas presidency possible. No one stated this white anxiety more clearly than Michele Bachmann, in an address to the Values Voter Summit before the 2016 election. Its a math problem of demographics, she noted, claiming this is the last election when we even have a chance to vote for somebody who will stand up for godly moral principles. As in Colfax County 145 years ago, faith didnt moderate white evangelicals desire to hold onto political power in 2016; it fueled their resolve to maintain control by any means necessary.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 04/02/18 9:44:40 AM #5:	The Christian right is the KKK reborn and stronger than ever. --- https://i.imgur.com/aVTScxQ.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:898918201] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>The Christian right is the KKK reborn and stronger than ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 04/02/18 9:45:35 AM #6:	frozenshock posted... a message of love Yes but not exclusively. He also raised the standard on us. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:898918225] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>a message of love</quote> Yes but not exclusively. He also raised the standard on us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 04/02/18 9:45:50 AM #7:	Wasn't the Parkland shooter getting religious encouragement from letters among the romantic letters? <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:898918234] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't the Parkland shooter getting religious encouragement from letters among the romantic letters?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 04/02/18 9:48:49 AM #8:	Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:898918317] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 04/02/18 9:50:00 AM #9:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:898918360] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism</quote> Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/02/18 9:50:29 AM #10:	Identity politics strikes again! This shit ain't helping. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:898918384] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>Identity politics strikes again! This shit ain't helping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 04/02/18 9:51:17 AM #11:	Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair. You are able to do that. And it happens regularly here. What are you crying about? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:898918413] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism</quote> Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair.</quote> You are able to do that. And it happens regularly here. What are you crying about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 04/02/18 9:53:29 AM #13:	Let's see... dates. 145 years ago... 1876... 1950's and 1960's... Oh, here's a 2018. Maybe this ist he white supremacy he's speaking of in the present tense. As a white evangelical in this land, I cant celebrate Easter in 2018 without working to reclaim the concept of redemption from the forces that.... No, I guess not. Oh and here's a 2016: Since he first emerged as a viable presidential candidate in the spring of 2016, Donald Trump seemed an obvious contradiction to the family values that evangelicals espouse. Yet exit polls suggest around 80 percent of white evangelicals voted for him in 2016 a higher percentage than George W. Bush or... Nope, not there either. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:898918498] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>Let's see... dates. 145 years ago... 1876... 1950's and 1960's... Oh, here's a 2018. Maybe this ist he white supremacy he's speaking of in the present tense. <quote>As a white evangelical in this land, I cant celebrate Easter in 2018 without working to reclaim the concept of redemption from the forces that....</quote> No, I guess not. Oh and here's a 2016: <quote>Since he first emerged as a viable presidential candidate in the spring of 2016, Donald Trump seemed an obvious contradiction to the family values that evangelicals espouse. Yet exit polls suggest around 80 percent of white evangelicals voted for him in 2016 a higher percentage than George W. Bush or...</quote> Nope, not there either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 04/02/18 9:54:16 AM #14:	Bullet_Wing posted... DevsBro posted... frozenshock posted... a message of love Yes but not exclusively. He also raised the standard on us. Raising the standard on you doesn't mean you get to decide what the standard should be for others. using "you" here to speak in general. Not saying you personally act that way I don't, no, but it's not my standard. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:898918529] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>a message of love</quote> Yes but not exclusively. He also raised the standard on us.</quote> Raising the standard on you doesn't mean you get to decide what the standard should be for others. using "you" here to speak in general. Not saying you personally act that way</quote> I don't, no, but it's not my standard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 04/02/18 9:55:27 AM #15:	Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair. No one would object to you inviting Muslims to be introspective and critical of their own history. But we all know that's not what you're talking about :) --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:898918571] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism</quote> Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair.</quote> No one would object to you inviting Muslims to be introspective and critical of their own history. But we all know that's not what you're talking about :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 04/02/18 9:59:14 AM #16:	Imagine the buttflusters if this article read "This Ramadan Muslims must remember how often and how easily Islam is used to defend terrorism." Both of these statements are of equal validity. Which is none. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:898918690] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>Imagine the buttflusters if this article read "This Ramadan Muslims must remember how often and how easily Islam is used to defend terrorism." Both of these statements are of equal validity. Which is none.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 04/02/18 10:00:41 AM #17:	Making comparisons to hypothetical situations and hypothetical outrage doesnt make anything in the op article any less true --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:898918749] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>Making comparisons to hypothetical situations and hypothetical outrage doesnt make anything in the op article any less true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 04/02/18 10:04:37 AM #18:	ultimate reaver posted... Making comparisons to hypothetical situations and hypothetical outrage doesnt make anything in the op article any less true Not to mention there's articles with shit like that all the time and gets a ton of support when they are made --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:898918885] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>Making comparisons to hypothetical situations and hypothetical outrage doesnt make anything in the op article any less true</quote> Not to mention there's articles with shit like that all the time and gets a ton of support when they are made</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Howl 04/02/18 10:06:39 AM #19:	ultimate reaver posted... Making comparisons to hypothetical situations and hypothetical outrage doesnt make anything in the op article any less true The double standard and hypocrisy is blatant. Do you honestly believe an article with the title I mentioned would ever be posted on NBC.com? Fuck no it wouldn't and anyone could write an article filled with just as much factual information as the article in the OP. Attacking an entire religion is fucking stupid. Attacking Islam is just as dumb as this fuck attacking Christianity. There are way more tolerant and loving Christians in the world that White Supremacists Christians. Just as there are way more tolerant and loving Muslims than there are muslim terrorists. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Howl posted [p:898918941] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>Making comparisons to hypothetical situations and hypothetical outrage doesnt make anything in the op article any less true</quote> The double standard and hypocrisy is blatant. Do you honestly believe an article with the title I mentioned would ever be posted on NBC.com? Fuck no it wouldn't and anyone could write an article filled with just as much factual information as the article in the OP. Attacking an entire religion is fucking stupid. Attacking Islam is just as dumb as this fuck attacking Christianity. There are way more tolerant and loving Christians in the world that White Supremacists Christians. Just as there are way more tolerant and loving Muslims than there are muslim terrorists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 04/02/18 10:08:12 AM #20:	Howl posted... ultimate reaver posted... Making comparisons to hypothetical situations and hypothetical outrage doesnt make anything in the op article any less true The double standard and hypocrisy is blatant. Do you honestly believe an article with the title I mentioned would ever be posted on NBC.com? Fuck no it wouldn't and anyone could write an article filled with just as much factual information as the article in the OP. Attacking an entire religion is fucking stupid. Attacking Islam is just as dumb as this fuck attacking Christianity. There are way more tolerant and loving Christians in the world that White Supremacists Christians. Just as there are way more tolerant and loving Muslims than there are muslim terrorists. Exactly. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:898918979] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>Making comparisons to hypothetical situations and hypothetical outrage doesnt make anything in the op article any less true</quote> The double standard and hypocrisy is blatant. Do you honestly believe an article with the title I mentioned would ever be posted on NBC.com? Fuck no it wouldn't and anyone could write an article filled with just as much factual information as the article in the OP. Attacking an entire religion is fucking stupid. Attacking Islam is just as dumb as this fuck attacking Christianity. There are way more tolerant and loving Christians in the world that White Supremacists Christians. Just as there are way more tolerant and loving Muslims than there are muslim terrorists.</quote> Exactly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/02/18 10:08:47 AM #21:	ultimate reaver posted... doesnt make anything in the op article any less true True or not, injecting race into everything is divisive race baiting trash that is hurting the dialogue, partisanship, and race relations of the entire nation. These people should be shamed. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:898918993] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>doesnt make anything in the op article any less true</quote> True or not, injecting race into everything is divisive race baiting trash that is hurting the dialogue, partisanship, and race relations of the entire nation. These people should be shamed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/02/18 10:09:12 AM #22:	I mean, it helps that the author is himself a Christian preacher --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:898919014] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>I mean, it helps that the author is himself a Christian preacher</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 04/02/18 10:09:54 AM #23:	Antifar posted... I mean, it helps that the author is himself a Christian preacher Probably just another poor sap who was tricked into believing "white guilt". --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:898919037] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, it helps that the author is himself a Christian preacher</quote> Probably just another poor sap who was tricked into believing "white guilt".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz1286 04/02/18 10:10:04 AM #24:	and they wonder why Trump won --- Hi <cite>Medz1286 posted [p:898919044] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>and they wonder why Trump won</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 04/02/18 10:11:14 AM #25:	The title itself is attacking white supremacy who uses religion to defend it...this is hardly attacking the religion itself. <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:898919083] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>The title itself is attacking white supremacy who uses religion to defend it...this is hardly attacking the religion itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 04/02/18 10:15:01 AM #27:	Howl posted... There are way more tolerant and loving Christians in the world that White Supremacists Christians. Just as there are way more tolerant and loving Muslims than there are muslim terrorists. And I, for one, would welcome tolerant and loving Christians and Muslims alike to be way more outspoken about denouncing those of their respective faiths who hide their terrorism behind devoutness. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:898919215] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>There are way more tolerant and loving Christians in the world that White Supremacists Christians. Just as there are way more tolerant and loving Muslims than there are muslim terrorists.</quote> And I, for one, would welcome tolerant and loving Christians and Muslims alike to be way more outspoken about denouncing those of their respective faiths who hide their terrorism behind devoutness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 04/02/18 10:16:09 AM #28:	dameon_reaper posted... The title itself is attacking white supremacy who uses religion to defend it...this is hardly attacking the religion itself. I think the problem is, "Christians must . . ." putting the onus on the audience. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:898919254] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>dameon_reaper posted...</cite> <quote>The title itself is attacking white supremacy who uses religion to defend it...this is hardly attacking the religion itself.</quote> I think the problem is, "Christians must . . ." putting the onus on the audience.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 04/02/18 10:23:22 AM #29:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... dameon_reaper posted... The title itself is attacking white supremacy who uses religion to defend it...this is hardly attacking the religion itself. I think the problem is, "Christians must . . ." putting the onus on the audience. I still think TC's outrage is going overboard with this. As a Catholic, i understand the problems that Christianity has in the world and how many misuse it to enforce their agendas and bigotry. <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:898919513] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dameon_reaper posted...</cite> <quote>The title itself is attacking white supremacy who uses religion to defend it...this is hardly attacking the religion itself.</quote> I think the problem is, "Christians must . . ." putting the onus on the audience.</quote> I still think TC's outrage is going overboard with this. As a Catholic, i understand the problems that Christianity has in the world and how many misuse it to enforce their agendas and bigotry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dameon_reaper 04/02/18 10:31:34 AM #32:	Conflict posted... Medz1286 posted... and they wonder why Trump won Trump won because people criticize Christianity? Do y'all even think anymore when you say this Maybe read into it. "People are stupid". There, i deciphered it. <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:898919862] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medz1286 posted...</cite> <quote>and they wonder why Trump won</quote> Trump won because people criticize Christianity? Do y'all even think anymore when you say this</quote> Maybe read into it. "People are stupid". There, i deciphered it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/02/18 10:34:09 AM #33:	Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair. Ok. Sure. All religion is a plague. But you don't care about fair. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:898919976] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism</quote> Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair.</quote> Ok. Sure. All religion is a plague. But you don't care about fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 04/02/18 10:35:31 AM #34:	hockeybub89 posted... Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair. Ok. Sure. All religion is a plague. But you don't care about fair. I've never seen problems with Buddhism. <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:898920042] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism</quote> Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair.</quote> Ok. Sure. All religion is a plague. But you don't care about fair.</quote> I've never seen problems with Buddhism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 04/02/18 10:37:21 AM #35:	dameon_reaper posted... hockeybub89 posted... Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair. Ok. Sure. All religion is a plague. But you don't care about fair. I've never seen problems with Buddhism. Probably don't want to look into Sri Lanka then. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:898920113] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>dameon_reaper posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism</quote> Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair.</quote> Ok. Sure. All religion is a plague. But you don't care about fair.</quote> I've never seen problems with Buddhism.</quote> Probably don't want to look into Sri Lanka then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/02/18 10:38:11 AM #36:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... ultimate reaver posted... doesnt make anything in the op article any less true True or not, injecting race into everything is divisive race baiting trash that is hurting the dialogue, partisanship, and race relations of the entire nation. These people should be shamed. True or not? I thought we all hated how snowflakey society has become. Shouldn't we speak the truth regardless of people's feelings? Or do we only support that when we hurt other people's feelings? You think Palestinians should be driven into the sea by those innocent Israelis and NOW you care about feelings and being nice over being honest. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:898920150] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ultimate reaver posted...</cite> <quote>doesnt make anything in the op article any less true</quote> True or not, injecting race into everything is divisive race baiting trash that is hurting the dialogue, partisanship, and race relations of the entire nation. These people should be shamed.</quote> True or not? I thought we all hated how snowflakey society has become. Shouldn't we speak the truth regardless of people's feelings? Or do we only support that when we hurt other people's feelings? You think Palestinians should be driven into the sea by those innocent Israelis and NOW you care about feelings and being nice over being honest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dameon_reaper 04/02/18 10:38:37 AM #37:	Heineken14 posted... dameon_reaper posted... hockeybub89 posted... Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair. Ok. Sure. All religion is a plague. But you don't care about fair. I've never seen problems with Buddhism. Probably don't want to look into Sri Lanka then. perhaps not. I said I don't see problems in it, but I could be wrong. At the very least, I don't see any kind of terrorism or frustrations coming from its extremists. <cite>dameon_reaper posted [p:898920172] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Heineken14 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dameon_reaper posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote>Seems like a fair argument and article. Stop being triggered over Christian criticism</quote> Then I should be able to openly criticize Islam. Fair is fair.</quote> Ok. Sure. All religion is a plague. But you don't care about fair.</quote> I've never seen problems with Buddhism.</quote> Probably don't want to look into Sri Lanka then.</quote> perhaps not. I said I don't see problems in it, but I could be wrong. At the very least, I don't see any kind of terrorism or frustrations coming from its extremists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 04/02/18 10:47:10 AM #40:	hockeybub89 posted... True or not? I thought we all hated how snowflakey society has become. Shouldn't we speak the truth regardless of people's feelings? Yes, speak truth always but don't injected irrelevancies regardless of context. I'm not going to interject "remember that black people commit violent crimes at a rate 6 times other races." in every fucking discussion. And I'm sure a fuck not going to publish an article like that specifically for MLK day. What fucking possible purpose could it server? Are there a thousand and one reasons to bitch about Christianity? Yes. Is it productive to tell them what they "must" remember on the holiest of their holidays? No. Should we remind Muslims to think about 9/11 on Ramadan too? No, that's not what those holidays are for. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:898920522] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> True or not? I thought we all hated how snowflakey society has become. Shouldn't we speak the truth regardless of people's feelings?</quote> Yes, speak truth always but don't injected irrelevancies regardless of context. I'm not going to interject "remember that black people commit violent crimes at a rate 6 times other races." in every fucking discussion. And I'm sure a fuck not going to publish an article like that specifically for MLK day. What fucking possible purpose could it server? Are there a thousand and one reasons to bitch about Christianity? Yes. Is it productive to tell them what they "must" remember on the holiest of their holidays? No. Should we remind Muslims to think about 9/11 on Ramadan too? No, that's not what those holidays are for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 04/02/18 10:49:52 AM #41:	Christianity isn't the problem. losers desperate for validation and power by any means is the problem. when you cater to people's emotional instabilities instead of governing through objective logic, you get shit like this. people literally murdered their own family members for the right to OWN other people in the Civil War. father vs son, brother vs brother. poor Christians who'd probably never ever be able to afford to own Black people were radicalized and convinced to shoot and kill their own flesh and blood so the wealthy could maintain their cash flow. when they lost, they had to be coddled with consolation prizes for standing against the federal government... because... fuck consequences and accountability? many of the descendants of these same Christians became White supremacists and continue the trend of using God to justify the evil they do and/or allow. they feel like the "real victims" and romanticized "taking the country back" for generations. I mean... people get mad at the messenger for simply noticing a pattern and pointing it out. no real argument against the pattern itself. just emotional arguments for those who dare to admit to a connection between Christianity and White supremacy. the straw man points and whataboutisms typically come from those who it applies to the most. more patterns. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:898920633] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>Christianity isn't the problem. losers desperate for validation and power by any means is the problem. when you cater to people's emotional instabilities instead of governing through objective logic, you get shit like this. people literally murdered their own family members for the right to OWN other people in the Civil War. father vs son, brother vs brother. poor Christians who'd probably never ever be able to afford to own Black people were radicalized and convinced to shoot and kill their own flesh and blood so the wealthy could maintain their cash flow. when they lost, they had to be coddled with consolation prizes for standing against the federal government... because... fuck consequences and accountability? many of the descendants of these same Christians became White supremacists and continue the trend of using God to justify the evil they do and/or allow. they feel like the "real victims" and romanticized "taking the country back" for generations. I mean... people get mad at the messenger for simply noticing a pattern and pointing it out. no real argument against the pattern itself. just emotional arguments for those who dare to admit to a connection between Christianity and White supremacy. the straw man points and whataboutisms typically come from those who it applies to the most. more patterns.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/02/18 10:51:08 AM #42:	That's hilarious, especially since if you mention how Islam as a religion is used to justify Islamic terrorism, you get called an Islamophobe. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:898920678] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>That's hilarious, especially since if you mention how Islam as a religion is used to justify Islamic terrorism, you get called an Islamophobe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 04/02/18 10:52:20 AM #43:	dameon_reaper posted... I've never seen problems with Buddhism. What you see has a strong correlation with where you look --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:898920716] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>dameon_reaper posted...</cite> <quote>I've never seen problems with Buddhism.</quote> What you see has a strong correlation with where you look</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 04/02/18 10:53:13 AM #44:	scar the 1 posted... dameon_reaper posted... I've never seen problems with Buddhism. What you see has a strong correlation with where you look oh snaps! --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:898920756] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dameon_reaper posted...</cite> <quote> I've never seen problems with Buddhism.</quote> What you see has a strong correlation with where you look</quote> oh snaps!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/02/18 10:53:25 AM #45:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... hockeybub89 posted... True or not? I thought we all hated how snowflakey society has become. Shouldn't we speak the truth regardless of people's feelings? Yes, speak truth always but don't injected irrelevancies regardless of context. I'm not going to interject "remember that black people commit violent crimes at a rate 6 times other races." in every fucking discussion. And I'm sure a fuck not going to publish an article like that specifically for MLK day. What fucking possible purpose could it server? Are there a thousand and one reasons to bitch about Christianity? Yes. Is it productive to tell them what they "must" remember on the holiest of their holidays? No. Should we remind Muslims to think about 9/11 on Ramadan too? No, that's not what those holidays are for. Interject irrelavancies? Is this article not about this subject? Who cares what day it is? Also, the writer is Christian. Forgive me for not buying your respectful "time and place" horseshit. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:898920759] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> True or not? I thought we all hated how snowflakey society has become. Shouldn't we speak the truth regardless of people's feelings?</quote> Yes, speak truth always but don't injected irrelevancies regardless of context. I'm not going to interject "remember that black people commit violent crimes at a rate 6 times other races." in every fucking discussion. And I'm sure a fuck not going to publish an article like that specifically for MLK day. What fucking possible purpose could it server? Are there a thousand and one reasons to bitch about Christianity? Yes. Is it productive to tell them what they "must" remember on the holiest of their holidays? No. Should we remind Muslims to think about 9/11 on Ramadan too? No, that's not what those holidays are for.</quote> Interject irrelavancies? Is this article not about this subject? Who cares what day it is? Also, the writer is Christian. Forgive me for not buying your respectful "time and place" horseshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/02/18 10:54:24 AM #46:	The Admiral posted... That's hilarious, especially since if you mention how Islam as a religion is used to justify Islamic terrorism, you get called an Islamophobe. And saying you don't like rap music might get you called racist. Who cares what random idiots say? You need better material than "Calling an Islamic terrorist a man terrorizing in the name of Islam is racist according to liberals". It's 2018. Go back to the writer's room. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:898920802] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>That's hilarious, especially since if you mention how Islam as a religion is used to justify Islamic terrorism, you get called an Islamophobe.</quote> And saying you don't like rap music might get you called racist. Who cares what random idiots say? You need better material than "Calling an Islamic terrorist a man terrorizing in the name of Islam is racist according to liberals". It's 2018. Go back to the writer's room.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 04/02/18 10:56:16 AM #47:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Should we remind Muslims to think about 9/11 on Ramadan too? No, that's not what those holidays are for. Again, I don't think anyone would object to Muslims denouncing Islamic terrorism during Ramadan. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:898920880] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Should we remind Muslims to think about 9/11 on Ramadan too? No, that's not what those holidays are for.</quote> Again, I don't think anyone would object to Muslims denouncing Islamic terrorism during Ramadan.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 04/02/18 10:57:27 AM #48:	scar the 1 posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Should we remind Muslims to think about 9/11 on Ramadan too? No, that's not what those holidays are for. Again, I don't think anyone would object to Muslims denouncing Islamic terrorism during Ramadan. lol, I doubt that too. dem strawman arguments, man... --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:898920926] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote> Should we remind Muslims to think about 9/11 on Ramadan too? No, that's not what those holidays are for.</quote> Again, I don't think anyone would object to Muslims denouncing Islamic terrorism during Ramadan.</quote> lol, I doubt that too. dem strawman arguments, man...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 04/02/18 11:00:20 AM #49:	I'm tempted to hop on the Feel-Good-Outrage Machine myself, but the article has some merit. Would've been a much better article if the writer dispensed with the excessive race baiting though, because then people would've noticed the main points rather than the race baiting. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:898921056] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote>I'm tempted to hop on the Feel-Good-Outrage Machine myself, but the article has some merit. Would've been a much better article if the writer dispensed with the excessive race baiting though, because then people would've noticed the main points rather than the race baiting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/02/18 11:02:29 AM #50:	Howl posted... Imagine the buttflusters if this article read "This Ramadan Muslims must remember how often and how easily Islam is used to defend terrorism." Both of these statements are of equal validity. Which is none. People don't use religion to justify horrific acts? How did you make this topic from a time before humans? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:898921128] in Christians... [t:76477485]...</cite> <quote><cite>Howl posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine the buttflusters if this article read "This Ramadan Muslims must remember how often and how easily Islam is used to defend terrorism." Both of these statements are of equal validity. Which is none.</quote> People don't use religion to justify horrific acts? How did you make this topic from a time before humans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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