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Shuto-uke
04/10/18 5:21:28 PM
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Sayoria
04/10/18 5:23:49 PM
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Shuto-uke
04/10/18 5:26:38 PM
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Sayoria
04/10/18 5:27:47 PM
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04/10/18 5:29:49 PM
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Vita_Aeterna
04/10/18 5:45:24 PM
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English is already a West Germanic language, the same as English; French is a Romance language. French is more widely spoken across the world and sounds a lot sexier to women...if you know that's the type of motivation you're after.
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Hexenherz
04/10/18 5:58:22 PM
#57:


Vita_Aeterna posted...
English is already a West Germanic language, the same as English; French is a Romance language. French is more widely spoken across the world and sounds a lot sexier to women...if you know that's the type of motivation you're after.

Eh, English being a West Germanic language is kind of irrelevant in the modern day given the overwhelming influence from Greek and Latin :\
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Shuto-uke
04/10/18 6:00:13 PM
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GunmaN1905
04/10/18 6:02:12 PM
#59:


German is easier than French.

But for you native English speakers, any language is hard because you don't have an inherited concept of declensions or cases and therefore you're starting from 0.

For example, my language has 7 cases and German has 4, so it's not that hard to learn, especially if I know English which shares a lot of stuff with German.
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Vita_Aeterna
04/10/18 6:27:37 PM
#60:


Hexenherz posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
English is already a West Germanic language, the same as English; French is a Romance language. French is more widely spoken across the world and sounds a lot sexier to women...if you know that's the type of motivation you're after.

Eh, English being a West Germanic language is kind of irrelevant in the modern day given the overwhelming influence from Greek and Latin :\

Actually, you forgot to mention French influence (via the Normans and the French ruling elite in England) which is probably the best argument against what I claimed. French and Latin are the biggest influences to English, which is probably why it feels relatively alien to its West Germanic cousins.

In other words, French is more similar to English, than German is to English.

Either way, French sounds better when spoken than German so I'd personally go with that (aside from its usefulness in addition to having already been exposed to the language in grade school..being Canadian and all that).

Strangely, I'm most interested in learning Norwegian or Swedish.
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Shuto-uke
04/10/18 6:37:49 PM
#61:


Vita_Aeterna posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
English is already a West Germanic language, the same as English; French is a Romance language. French is more widely spoken across the world and sounds a lot sexier to women...if you know that's the type of motivation you're after.

Eh, English being a West Germanic language is kind of irrelevant in the modern day given the overwhelming influence from Greek and Latin :\

Actually, you forgot to mention French influence (via the Normans and the French ruling elite in England) which is probably the best argument against what I claimed. French and Latin are the biggest influences to English, which is probably why it feels relatively alien to its West Germanic cousins.

In other words, French is more similar to English, than German is to English.

Either way, French sounds better when spoken than German so I'd personally go with that (aside from its usefulness in addition to having already been exposed to the language in grade school..being Canadian and all that).

Strangely, I'm most interested in learning Norwegian or Swedish.


I find it weird how Romance languages have at least a degree of mutual inteligibility, or how asian languages have similar written characters (e.g. chinese and japanese), but English is not truly that mutually intelligible with anything but a small, almost extinct dialect called Frisian.
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Hexenherz
04/10/18 6:43:09 PM
#62:


Vita_Aeterna posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
English is already a West Germanic language, the same as English; French is a Romance language. French is more widely spoken across the world and sounds a lot sexier to women...if you know that's the type of motivation you're after.

Eh, English being a West Germanic language is kind of irrelevant in the modern day given the overwhelming influence from Greek and Latin :\

Actually, you forgot to mention French influence (via the Normans and the French ruling elite in England) which is probably the best argument against what I claimed. French and Latin are the biggest influences to English, which is probably why it feels relatively alien to its West Germanic cousins.

In other words, French is more similar to English, than German is to English.

Either way, French sounds better when spoken than German so I'd personally go with that (aside from its usefulness in addition to having already been exposed to the language in grade school..being Canadian and all that).

Strangely, I'm most interested in learning Norwegian or Swedish.

I didn't speak to a French influence because it's also a Latin-derived language so it felt redundant.

Nothing strange about learning Norwegian or Swedish. I started studying Swedish language and culture a couple years ago and I love it so friggin' much. They have a huge community in the DC area that puts on all sorts of events covering the different Scandinavian cultures and I'm overwhelmed at all the options.
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Sayoria
04/10/18 6:47:03 PM
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bob742omb
04/10/18 6:54:09 PM
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If you are politically left-wing/pro-EU, you will love German. If you are not, then German is likely not something you're going to enjoy.
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Vita_Aeterna
04/10/18 7:01:29 PM
#65:


Shuto-uke posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
English is already a West Germanic language, the same as English; French is a Romance language. French is more widely spoken across the world and sounds a lot sexier to women...if you know that's the type of motivation you're after.

Eh, English being a West Germanic language is kind of irrelevant in the modern day given the overwhelming influence from Greek and Latin :\

Actually, you forgot to mention French influence (via the Normans and the French ruling elite in England) which is probably the best argument against what I claimed. French and Latin are the biggest influences to English, which is probably why it feels relatively alien to its West Germanic cousins.

In other words, French is more similar to English, than German is to English.

Either way, French sounds better when spoken than German so I'd personally go with that (aside from its usefulness in addition to having already been exposed to the language in grade school..being Canadian and all that).

Strangely, I'm most interested in learning Norwegian or Swedish.


I find it weird how Romance languages have at least a degree of mutual inteligibility, or how asian languages have similar written characters (e.g. chinese and japanese), but English is not truly that mutually intelligible with anything but a small, almost extinct dialect called Frisian.

Frisian is spoken by half a million people going by a Google search, that's still quite a lot of people.

But yeah, English as a language had been influenced by so many foreign languages that there isn't any major language quite like it.
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Shuto-uke
04/10/18 7:09:07 PM
#66:


Vita_Aeterna posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Vita_Aeterna posted...
English is already a West Germanic language, the same as English; French is a Romance language. French is more widely spoken across the world and sounds a lot sexier to women...if you know that's the type of motivation you're after.

Eh, English being a West Germanic language is kind of irrelevant in the modern day given the overwhelming influence from Greek and Latin :\

Actually, you forgot to mention French influence (via the Normans and the French ruling elite in England) which is probably the best argument against what I claimed. French and Latin are the biggest influences to English, which is probably why it feels relatively alien to its West Germanic cousins.

In other words, French is more similar to English, than German is to English.

Either way, French sounds better when spoken than German so I'd personally go with that (aside from its usefulness in addition to having already been exposed to the language in grade school..being Canadian and all that).

Strangely, I'm most interested in learning Norwegian or Swedish.


I find it weird how Romance languages have at least a degree of mutual inteligibility, or how asian languages have similar written characters (e.g. chinese and japanese), but English is not truly that mutually intelligible with anything but a small, almost extinct dialect called Frisian.

Frisian is spoken by half a million people going by a Google search, that's still quite a lot of people.

But yeah, English as a language had been influenced by so many foreign languages that there isn't any major language quite like it.


I'd love to meet a Frisian speaker
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Sayoria
04/10/18 7:25:20 PM
#67:


bob742omb posted...
If you are politically left-wing/pro-EU, you will love German. If you are not, then German is likely not something you're going to enjoy.


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ASithLord7
04/10/18 7:34:24 PM
#68:


bob742omb posted...
If you are politically left-wing/pro-EU, you will love German. If you are not, then German is likely not something you're going to enjoy.

Did you just have a stroke
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Yomi
04/11/18 7:35:12 AM
#69:


Shuto-uke posted...
I find it weird how Romance languages have at least a degree of mutual inteligibility, or how asian languages have similar written characters (e.g. chinese and japanese), but English is not truly that mutually intelligible with anything but a small, almost extinct dialect called Frisian.
I get what you mean about mutual intelligibility but the bolded part doesn't make sense to me, the English languages and a bunch of other languages use the same Latin alphabet. The Chinese languages and Japanese aren't mutually intelligible, they just share the Chinese characters (so did Korean at some point) and vocabulary. Just like English shares a lot of vocabulary with other languages.
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BCAM1984
04/11/18 8:01:00 AM
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I voted French but obligatory post:

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awesome999
04/11/18 8:20:42 AM
#71:


GunmaN1905 posted...
German is easier than French.

But for you native English speakers, any language is hard because you don't have an inherited concept of declensions or cases and therefore you're starting from 0.

For example, my language has 7 cases and German has 4, so it's not that hard to learn, especially if I know English which shares a lot of stuff with German.

Which language? Mine has 6, also currently learning German. Which level are you?

Although, the cases are definitely hard, mostly because of the whole intermixing with the articles and the possessive pronouns and the prepositions and what not. It'd be a lot easier if I actually studied but I don't so
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bob742omb
04/11/18 1:02:52 PM
#72:


ASithLord7 posted...
bob742omb posted...
If you are politically left-wing/pro-EU, you will love German. If you are not, then German is likely not something you're going to enjoy.

Did you just have a stroke

no
i'm just saying, the political landscape in germany and the general attitudes of germans is left-wing/pro-EU. it's that, if you disagree with those views and want to learn german and be in germany, you're going to be annoyed at the very least

https://imgur.com/a/D6v9Q
^because shit like this is the reality of modern germany
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teepan95
04/11/18 1:38:56 PM
#73:


bob742omb posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
bob742omb posted...
If you are politically left-wing/pro-EU, you will love German. If you are not, then German is likely not something you're going to enjoy.

Did you just have a stroke

no
i'm just saying, the political landscape in germany and the general attitudes of germans is left-wing/pro-EU. it's that, if you disagree with those views and want to learn german and be in germany, you're going to be annoyed at the very least

https://imgur.com/a/D6v9Q
^because shit like this is the reality of modern germany

and i'm just saying, if someone is ok with that, then they should learn german because there's a lot more of that stuff in store. if they're not ok with that, then they should learn something else.... jay em oh

>taking a fucking greentext seriously

Yes, Germany is left-wing compared to the US. Surprise, so are all countries that aren't batshit insane.
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bob742omb
04/11/18 2:51:58 PM
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ist kein Greentext
und es ist die Realitt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Palace#Reconstruction

While opinion continued to remain divided, it succeeded in winning over many politicians and other key figures for the endeavour. In view of the previous opposition, including high cost, and most importantly, the psychological and political objections, successive German governments had declined to commit themselves to the project. However, by 2002 and 2003 cross-party resolutions of the Bundestag reached a compromise to support at least a partial rebuilding of the Stadtschloss. In 2007, the Bundestag (German parliament) made a definitive decision about the reconstruction. According to this compromise, which had been drawn up by a commission, three faades of the palace would be rebuilt, but the interior would be a modern structure to serve as a cultural museum and forum.

On completion in 2019 the building will house a modern museum containing collections of African and other non-European art, as well as two restaurants, a theater, a movie theater and an auditorium.


einfach unglaublich. das ist doch "batshit insane"
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teepan95
04/11/18 3:44:24 PM
#75:


Ich sehe nix zu "leftists and greens".

Plus they're rebuilding the facade, in explicit contradiction to the greentext. Says so in your own link.

tl;dr: Klappe. Zu.
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bob742omb
04/11/18 4:39:13 PM
#76:


https://berliner-schloss.de/neues-schloss-humboldt-forum/neue-bilder-berlin-2019/

one facade is going to be modern, the one facing the Spree river. but you're right that they're rebuilding the front facade as the original

TC, if you learn German, topics like this will come up a lot. and you will have to expect germans to defend decisions like these. again, if you're for this stuff, learn german, you will enjoy it, you'll be on the winning team. if not, then choose a different language because this is not worth the headache.
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