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creativerealms
04/12/18 5:54:28 PM
#51:


JeanAmpteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...

Racism is not exclusively right-wing. Next.



Yes, racism is exclusively a right-wing doctrine.

No it's not. Man you have me agreeing with the worst scum on Earth, a Gamergater. Being racist does not relate to where you are on the political spectrum but the way you express your racism does.
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Broseph_Stalin
04/12/18 5:55:50 PM
#52:


creativerealms posted...
Being racist does not relate to where you are on the political spectrum but the way you express your racism does.


Racism is a form of social hierarchy so it would be right-wing.
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Mal_Fet
04/12/18 5:56:17 PM
#53:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
People on the left support egalitarianism while the right believes social hierarchies are either inevitable or beneficial. Only the uninformed use left or right-wing as an umbrella term for all political views.

The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left.

Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism", while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".

The sides of the French revolution did not cement what constitutes the left and right forevermore. If it did, then a leftist would not support more taxation or regulations, speech codes, etc. as such things would go against freedom and rights.

Here's the short version for ya: Left = more government influence, Right = Less government influence. Which was Stalin?
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UnfairRepresent
04/12/18 5:57:40 PM
#54:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
creativerealms posted...
Being racist does not relate to where you are on the political spectrum but the way you express your racism does.


Racism is a form of social hierarchy so it would be right-wing.

Sigless user logic
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creativerealms
04/12/18 5:57:47 PM
#55:


Mal_Fet posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
People on the left support egalitarianism while the right believes social hierarchies are either inevitable or beneficial. Only the uninformed use left or right-wing as an umbrella term for all political views.

The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left.

Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism", while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".

The sides of the French revolution did not cement what constitutes the left and right forevermore. If it did, then a leftist would not support more taxation or regulations as such things would go against freedom and rights.

Here's the short version for ya: Left = more government influence, Right = Less government influence. Which was Stalin?

If that's true then I guess we have to count both democrats and republicans as Left wing. Does anyone really believe the current GOP is the party of small government?
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Mal_Fet
04/12/18 5:59:35 PM
#56:


creativerealms posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
People on the left support egalitarianism while the right believes social hierarchies are either inevitable or beneficial. Only the uninformed use left or right-wing as an umbrella term for all political views.

The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left.

Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism", while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".

The sides of the French revolution did not cement what constitutes the left and right forevermore. If it did, then a leftist would not support more taxation or regulations as such things would go against freedom and rights.

Here's the short version for ya: Left = more government influence, Right = Less government influence. Which was Stalin?

If that's true then I guess we have to count both democrats and republicans as Left wing. Does anyone really believe the current GOP is the party of small government?

The current GOP has slashed taxes and regulations like crazy. So yes they're certainly right-wing.
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SageHarpuia
04/12/18 6:00:13 PM
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I mean, the dude was completely unprofessional, and teabagging in video games is detestable anyway, so when he did it to the virtual incarnation of a self-proclaimed feminist, it's easy to see how this could be made into a sexism issue even when it looks more like a personal vendetta. Either way he should have known better.
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Tyranthraxus
04/12/18 6:01:02 PM
#58:


Mal_Fet posted...
Here's the short version for ya: Left = more government influence, Right = Less government influence. Which was Stalin?

Those are not definitions of left / right.
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Mal_Fet
04/12/18 6:01:48 PM
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SageHarpuia posted...
I mean, the dude was completely unprofessional, and teabagging in video games is detestable anyway,

>teabagging someone in an FPS video game
>detestable

Pick one, ya snowflake.

SageHarpuia posted...
it's easy to see how this could be made into a sexism issue even when it looks more like a personal vendetta.

If you read the article it's clear he thought the person he was teabagging was another developer.
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JeanAmpteau
04/12/18 6:02:10 PM
#60:


creativerealms posted...
JeanAmpteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...

Racism is not exclusively right-wing. Next.



Yes, racism is exclusively a right-wing doctrine.

No it's not. Man you have me agreeing with the worst scum on Earth, a Gamergater. Being racist does not relate to where you are on the political spectrum but the way you express your racism does.


False.

Broseph_Stalin posted...
creativerealms posted...
Being racist does not relate to where you are on the political spectrum but the way you express your racism does.


Racism is a form of social hierarchy so it would be right-wing.

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Broseph_Stalin
04/12/18 6:02:25 PM
#61:


Mal_Fet posted...
The sides of the French revolution did not cement what constitutes the left and right forevermore.


It... kind of does. This is how definitions work.

Mal_Fet posted...
If it did, then a leftist would not support more taxation or regulations as such things would go against freedom and rights.


Taxes and regulations instituted in a democratic system to benefit society do not go against freedom and rights.

Mal_Fet posted...
Here's the short version for ya: Left = more government influence, Right = Less government influence.


You can't make up definitions to support your false beliefs that's not how this works.
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Gafemage
04/12/18 6:02:38 PM
#62:


SageHarpuia posted...
I mean, the dude was completely unprofessional, and teabagging in video games is detestable anyway, so when he did it to the virtual incarnation of a self-proclaimed feminist, it's easy to see how this could be made into a sexism issue even when it looks more like a personal vendetta. Either way he should have known better.

When someone like SageHarpuia makes a post like this, you know youve made a shitty topic.
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Mal_Fet
04/12/18 6:04:08 PM
#63:


JeanAmpteau posted...
False.

False.

JeanAmpteau posted...
Racism is a form of social hierarchy so it would be right-wing.

The left has social hierarchies.

They carefully lay them out in an intersecional concept you might have heard of: privilege
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Tyranthraxus
04/12/18 6:04:18 PM
#64:


Mal_Fet posted...
The current GOP has slashed taxes and regulations like crazy. So yes they're certainly right-wing.


slashed some regulations.

added a bunch of extra ones like blocking funding of going to abortion providers, various travel bans, added tariffs, adding drug tests for entitlements, adding extra immigration restrictions, adding more regulations on solar and wind energy, adding more regulations on legal marijuana, etc.

The only places that they've just cut regulations from are from the worst places to do it, environmental and net neutrality.
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Howl
04/12/18 6:04:31 PM
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It's not sexism because it's literally not even reality.
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CaptainCrunch
04/12/18 6:07:48 PM
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We have at least two people in this topic arguing that only those on the right are racist.

I seriously can't fathom that level of pure stupidity.
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Mal_Fet
04/12/18 6:08:31 PM
#67:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Taxes and regulations instituted in a democratic system to benefit society do not go against freedom and rights.

Do you see an asterisk next to your copypasta of the left wing definition that says "infringing on all or most of these things is ok if it 'benefits society'"? No? Well then I'm afraid you're using a flawed definition.

Broseph_Stalin posted...
You can't make up definitions to support your false beliefs that's not how this works.

Not making it up.

http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/politics/difference-between-right-wing-and-left-wing/
https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_Wing_vs_Right_Wing
https://www.wikihow.com/Tell-Whether-You%27re-Right-Wing-or-Left-Wing
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Broseph_Stalin
04/12/18 6:09:43 PM
#68:


CaptainCrunch posted...
We have at least two people in this topic arguing that only those on the right are racist.


You probably shouldn't call people stupid if you struggle with reading comprehension.
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The Admiral
04/12/18 6:09:53 PM
#69:


JeanAmpteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
JeanAmpteau posted...
Hey look, like Admiral, MalFet is outraged over stupid people with the emotional fortitude of a toddler threatening the careers of people with real jobs

Yep.


What a crusader you are.

Now why don't you get outraged over something that matters?


All I've seen today is you getting outraged in normal topics where none of the other posters seem outraged.

Is this some projection technique you worked on in your anger management classes or something?
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Mal_Fet
04/12/18 6:10:07 PM
#70:


Tyranthraxus posted...

slashed some regulations.

added a bunch of extra ones like blocking funding of going to abortion providers, various travel bans, added tariffs, adding drug tests for entitlements, adding extra immigration restrictions, adding more regulations on solar and wind energy, adding more regulations on legal marijuana, etc.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-stood-next-to-a-huge-pile-of-paper-showing-big-government-2017-12/

Also, border control is one of the few things the founding fathers intended for the government to actually control, so that's hardly a big-government stance.
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action52
04/12/18 6:10:34 PM
#71:


Mal_Fet posted...
If you read the article it's clear he thought the person he was teabagging was another developer.

That's still very unprofessional. I mean look, if you and your friends do stuff like that to joke around that's one thing. But you should know better than to do that when you're publicly demonstrating a game.

Kind of how it's fine to scream "Fuck you assmuncher! Suck my left nut!!" to a friend during a game of basketball in the park, but doing the same thing during a board meeting at work will make the boss extremely pissed off at both of you.
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CaptainCrunch
04/12/18 6:11:06 PM
#72:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
CaptainCrunch posted...
We have at least two people in this topic arguing that only those on the right are racist.


You probably shouldn't call people stupid if you struggle with reading comprehension.


Yeah, not being baited into your backpedal, lefty. I don't interact with your kind.
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hockeybub89
04/12/18 6:11:25 PM
#73:


We might need something, but it isn't motherfucking "ethics in journalism" GamerGate.
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Broseph_Stalin
04/12/18 6:11:45 PM
#74:


CaptainCrunch posted...
Yeah, not being baited into your backpedal, lefty. I don't interact with your kind.


You sound like a logical and informed individual.
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Tyranthraxus
04/12/18 6:11:58 PM
#75:


Mal_Fet posted...
Also, border control is one of the few things the founding fathers intended for the government to actually control, so that's hardly a big-government stance.

That's literally the opposite of reality.
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PinkiePie462
04/12/18 6:12:35 PM
#76:


Feminism was a mistake
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Broseph_Stalin
04/12/18 6:13:34 PM
#77:


PinkiePie462 posted...
Feminism was a mistake


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PinkiePie462
04/12/18 6:14:36 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
PinkiePie462 posted...
Feminism was a mistake


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Mal_Fet
04/12/18 6:15:07 PM
#79:


action52 posted...
That's still very unprofessional. I mean look, if you and your friends do stuff like that to joke around that's one thing. But you should know better than to do that when you're publicly demonstrating a game.

Kind of how it's fine to scream "Fuck you assmuncher! Suck my left nut!!" to a friend during a game of basketball in the park, but doing the same thing during a board meeting at work will make the boss extremely pissed off at both of you.

Imagine comparing having your video game avatar crouch over another person's video game avatar to that.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Also, border control is one of the few things the founding fathers intended for the government to actually control, so that's hardly a big-government stance.

That's literally the opposite of reality.

No I'm pretty sure protecting the borders is a really fundamental role of a government and always has been.
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Darmik
04/12/18 6:20:50 PM
#80:


This is being handled privately and gently. It was an issue of professionalism and nothing more. The hubbub was a PSA and reminder that this is unprofessional behaviour. Thats it.


Imagine thinking that this needs an internet political movement.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/12/18 6:23:49 PM
#81:


Mal_Fet posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Literally all of them. Done.

Centralizing the means of production into the state is a right-wing policy, huh?

I'm not sure you know what the difference between the political left and right is.


Well then why don't you explain it all to me and give some examples how people like Stalin are where you consider them to be on the political spectrum, Mr know it all

Given how Stalin removed most individual rights (something that the right-wing is overwhelmingly against) and based much of his policy on Marxist socialist theory, it seems irrefutable that he was an authoritarian leftist, unless you would now like to try to argue that Marx was right wing.


Marx had both a right and a left wing iirc
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Kid_Buu
04/12/18 6:24:05 PM
#82:


Doom_Art posted...
hey targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.

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Prestoff
04/12/18 6:30:09 PM
#83:


Darmik posted...
This is being handled privately and gently. It was an issue of professionalism and nothing more. The hubbub was a PSA and reminder that this is unprofessional behaviour. Thats it.


Imagine thinking that this needs an internet political movement.


Yeah I didn't think she originally intended for this story to blow up like this, I mean there is a reason she didn't name the developer who "teabagged" her. It was a stupid thing for the developer to do but it really shouldn't be this big deal in my opinion.
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JeanAmpteau
04/12/18 6:44:36 PM
#84:


The Admiral posted...
JeanAmpteau posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
JeanAmpteau posted...
Hey look, like Admiral, MalFet is outraged over stupid people with the emotional fortitude of a toddler threatening the careers of people with real jobs

Yep.


What a crusader you are.

Now why don't you get outraged over something that matters?


All I've seen today is you getting outraged in normal topics where none of the other posters seem outraged.

Is this some projection technique you worked on in your anger management classes or something?


Lol, literally projecting about me projecting. Can't make this up.

Anyways, I haven't been outraged by anything today. You have, your hate boner is showing.
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