Current Events > I don't see the strategic purpose of firing Rosenstein

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Zero_Destroyer
04/13/18 2:05:08 PM
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It's a given that he'll be fired at this point, but I really don't get why: It just gives more fodder for Democrats in the midterms when Republicans are already in for an uphill battle for congress while the Senate is becoming increasingly competitive due to the TN/WV races giving Dems a big bone to work with.

Trump does himself no favors. It just makes him look more corrupt, provides more Nixon parallels, and gives Dems a justifiable reason to label him guilty since he's actively impeding his own investigation.

dude is off his rocker
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CableZL
04/13/18 2:07:04 PM
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Blue_Inigo
04/13/18 2:07:37 PM
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CableZL posted...
strategic purpose

trump

Pick one
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_BIueMonk
04/13/18 2:07:41 PM
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DONNlE MAD

DONNIE SMASH DEMOCRACY!!!!
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Zero_Destroyer
04/13/18 2:21:15 PM
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like for real why give his political opponents a tangible reason to parade around

he can deny guilt now because he's simply being investigated

but if he dismantles the investigation, any reasonable person is going to assume guilt because there's no other reason to dismantle an investigation targeting yourself beyond you attempting to evade the consequences of what you did to get investigated to begin with (or attempting to evade what else they might find)
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Kid_Buu
04/13/18 2:22:34 PM
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just to make you, specifically, mad
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metralo
04/13/18 2:23:08 PM
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trump doesn't act on anything but his fee fees. he's the most emotionally driven and easily triggered person on this planet.
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Chad-Henne
04/13/18 2:23:16 PM
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Antifar
04/13/18 2:24:28 PM
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I only have enough room in my brain for so many administration people at one time: which one is Rod Rosenstein?
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Zero_Destroyer
04/13/18 2:24:28 PM
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Kid_Buu posted...
just to make you, specifically, mad


i'm confused, not mad

i wouldn't be mad because i'm a liberal that would love to watch trump's presidency implode, something that firing rosenstein will aide in doing. which is why I'm confused, he's giving me what i want by speedrunning the "Corrupt Politician" class
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Kid_Buu
04/13/18 2:25:11 PM
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Zero_Destroyer posted...
Kid_Buu posted...
just to make you, specifically, mad


i'm confused, not mad

i wouldn't be mad because i'm a liberal that would love to watch trump's presidency implode, something that firing rosenstein will aide in doing. which is why I'm confused, he's giving me what i want by speedrunning the "Corrupt Politician" class

just to make you, specifically, confused
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Zero_Destroyer
04/13/18 2:26:15 PM
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Antifar posted...
I only have enough room in my brain for so many administration people at one time: which one is Rod Rosenstein?


deputy Attorney General
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Metua
04/13/18 2:35:34 PM
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Republicans in Congress are spineless and I doubt that many of them would vote to impeach/convict Trump if he tried to fire Rosenstein or obstruct justice in some other manner. And Democrats wouldn't have the votes to impeach/convict him on their own even if they did take back the House and Senate this year, so the way I see it, Trump is immune to any consequences.
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Antifar
04/13/18 2:36:29 PM
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Metua posted...
Republicans in Congress are spineless and I doubt that many of them would vote to impeach/convict Trump if he tried to fire Rosenstein or obstruct justice in some other manner. And Democrats wouldn't have the votes to impeach/convict him on their own even if they did take back the House and Senate this year, so the way I see it, Trump is immune to any consequences.

This is basically my view. Mostly I just want Trump to either shit or get off the pot here; you can't spend seven months deciding whether to fire a guy when your whole brand is being the "you're fired" guy
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Anteaterking
04/13/18 2:41:06 PM
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Firing Rosenstein is more effective than firing Mueller, because you can put a loyalist in charge of him who just doesn't approve funding/warrants/etc.

Of course, that only works as long as people don't realize that.
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Genocet_10-325
04/13/18 2:41:47 PM
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Antifar posted...
Metua posted...
Republicans in Congress are spineless and I doubt that many of them would vote to impeach/convict Trump if he tried to fire Rosenstein or obstruct justice in some other manner. And Democrats wouldn't have the votes to impeach/convict him on their own even if they did take back the House and Senate this year, so the way I see it, Trump is immune to any consequences.

This is basically my view. Mostly I just want Trump to either shit or get off the pot here; you can't spend seven months deciding whether to fire a guy when your whole brand is being the "you're fired" guy

He's the "you're fired" guy who can't even fire people, he has to use Twitter or have Kelly fire people.

Also, Trump would fire Rosenstein because he's the one who has the power to fire Mueller. He could fire Rosenstein and hope his replacement will fire Mueller, and if the next guy doesn't, Trump can fire him too, and repeat that until he finds someone who will fire Mueller. It's what Nixon did during the Saturday night massacre.
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Letron_James
04/13/18 2:43:14 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Firing Rosenstein is more effective than firing Mueller, because you can put a loyalist in charge of him who just doesn't approve funding/warrants/etc.

Of course, that only works as long as people don't realize that.


Im pretty sure a sizeable chunk of the FBI would be glad to work for free or discounted rates considering Trump has made a mockery of the agency. Besides, who is to say the guy he puts in charge wont turn on him down the road, its happened to almost every other appointee.
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Anteaterking
04/13/18 2:45:52 PM
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Letron_James posted...
Im pretty sure a sizeable chunk of the FBI would be glad to work for free or discounted rates


It's not a matter of whether they would be willing to, it's illegal to work off the clock for the government.
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BLAKUboy
04/13/18 2:53:52 PM
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The "strategic purpose" is simply to get rid of Mueller. Trump isn't anywhere near smart enough to think about what happens after that. He clearly thought the Russia investigation was done when he fired Comey, and we all see where that got him.
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Giant_Aspirin
04/13/18 2:59:12 PM
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Trump has no strategic purpose in anything he does. The man is fueled by impulse and emotion
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