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thelovefist 04/18/18 11:20:59 AM #53: |
Dash_Harber posted...
Dusk_ posted...Dash_Harber posted...g0ldie posted...this topic is stupid, and I highly doubt that the black community has anything to do with Troy's production or casting You can most certainly argue the historical depictions of these characters which were most certainly never depicted as African. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 04/18/18 11:22:04 AM #54: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
Dusk_ posted...Sick of this sjw bullshit. Yes lets make Achilles black and bald... when clearly he is defined by his flowing golden hair. can't wait for the shaka zulu netflix series where he is asian. If it's supposed to be a historically accurate thing then yeah it's pretty silly it'd be like having a sumo wrestler playing Jesus Christ. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC / 90/99 Fishing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 04/18/18 12:10:27 PM #55: |
nah, it has supernatural elements and gods
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RchHomieQuanChi 04/18/18 12:16:11 PM #56: |
It's funny how people are upset over this, but when that movie Exodus came out and people pointed out that Ancient Egyptians were black, people went "STFU IT'S ENTERTAINMENT"
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thelovefist 04/18/18 12:46:43 PM #57: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
It's funny how people are upset over this, but when that movie Exodus came out and people pointed out that Ancient Egyptians were black, people went "STFU IT'S ENTERTAINMENT" I am one complaining about both situations. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 04/18/18 12:55:45 PM #58: |
g0ldie posted...
nah, it has supernatural elements and gods Oh well then I don't know why anyone even notices/cares. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC / 90/99 Fishing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 04/18/18 12:59:49 PM #59: |
Hexenherz posted...
g0ldie posted...nah, it has supernatural elements and gods thelovefist posted... You can most certainly argue the historical depictions of these characters which were most certainly never depicted as African. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 04/18/18 1:05:10 PM #60: |
Delirious_Beard posted...
Will446 posted...For those who dont know the phrase WE WUZ KANGZ its a real life belief in the black community that all history is a lie and all major historical nations were black like England, the Vikings, Ancient Greeks, Egyptians. --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Freddie_Mercury 04/18/18 1:07:03 PM #61: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
SuperShake666 posted...Isn't the quote in TC's post literally a white supremacist meme now that's become like saying a racial slur? and the mods that let it slide each time --- I'm a sex machine ready to reload... when's sig emoji support thinking face emoji ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Im_JustMe0129 04/18/18 1:07:04 PM #62: |
Yay for historically inaccurate diversity!
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darkjedilink 04/18/18 1:09:13 PM #63: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
Dusk_ posted...Sick of this sjw bullshit. Yes lets make Achilles black and bald... when clearly he is defined by his flowing golden hair. can't wait for the shaka zulu netflix series where he is asian. There is if black people simultaneously hate 'whitewashing.' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/18/18 1:10:12 PM #64: |
Hexenherz posted...
g0ldie posted...nah, it has supernatural elements and gods So Black Panther can be white, right? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 04/18/18 1:12:59 PM #65: |
And here comes JDL to insert himself in another conversation about black people
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darkjedilink 04/18/18 1:14:21 PM #66: |
Bio1590 posted...
And here comes JDL to insert himself in another conversation about black people I'm assuming that English is your second language.. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 04/18/18 1:20:51 PM #67: |
Nah, just kinda interesting that you always end up on the side that's against or denigrating black people.
Almost as if you might be... --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 04/18/18 1:31:19 PM #68: |
SuperShake666 posted...
Isn't the quote in TC's post literally a white supremacist meme now that's become like saying a racial slur? --- http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/18/18 1:35:14 PM #70: |
yes, it is a white supremacist meme
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R_Jackal 04/18/18 1:39:56 PM #71: |
I mean if the actors are fine idgaf.
And for the gods being black in the show Zeus legit turned into a fucking swan to bang someone. If he wants to be black I think he can be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 04/18/18 1:40:56 PM #72: |
darkjedilink posted...
Hexenherz posted...g0ldie posted...nah, it has supernatural elements and gods I ... don't even see how these could be considered comparable xd. --- RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC / 90/99 Fishing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 04/18/18 1:54:53 PM #73: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
Dusk_ posted...Blue_Inigo posted...Tyranthraxus posted...I wonder if you guys here are mad about what Disney did to fairies and dwarves and folk tales in general. What's the difference between Blade and Achilles? Both of them need to be the way they are for the story to proceed without changes. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dusk_ 04/18/18 2:09:03 PM #74: |
Hexenherz posted...
darkjedilink posted...Hexenherz posted...g0ldie posted...nah, it has supernatural elements and gods Why can't you? --- ...dusk is the time when men whisper of matters about which they remain silent in the full light of the sun. http://i.imgur.com/aCDRb27.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/18/18 2:11:48 PM #75: |
The_Ivory_Man posted...
What's the difference between Blade and Achilles? Okay so the story is changed. I mean the story would be changed even if Achilles was white but I'm sure that doesn't matter because (convoluted reasoning) --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spaghetti_house 04/18/18 2:19:10 PM #76: |
thelovefist posted...
You can most certainly argue the historical depictions of these characters which were most certainly never depicted as African. Why is no one addressing this point? Re: The red herring that no one of these figures actually ever existed. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/18/18 2:23:26 PM #77: |
spaghetti_house posted...
thelovefist posted...You can most certainly argue the historical depictions of these characters which were most certainly never depicted as African. Because we have always done so by itself is not a reason to continue doing so. Achilles is also historically depicted with a spear but if you give him a sword instead basically nothing is different. Achilles defining features include his long golden hair but his appearance is inconsequential to the role he performs in the story which is to kill Hector. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spaghetti_house 04/18/18 2:29:34 PM #78: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
spaghetti_house posted...thelovefist posted...You can most certainly argue the historical depictions of these characters which were most certainly never depicted as African. Imagine believing any of what you just posted. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/18/18 2:32:01 PM #79: |
spaghetti_house posted...
Imagine believing any of what you just posted. This response right here is why spaghetti_house posted... Why is no one addressing this point? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spaghetti_house 04/18/18 2:33:11 PM #80: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
spaghetti_house posted...Imagine believing any of what you just posted. I think you're having difficulties understanding words. It's best that you take a timeout. --- N/A ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 04/18/18 2:43:37 PM #81: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...What's the difference between Blade and Achilles? And Blade is different from the comics. What's the difference --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/18/18 2:44:47 PM #82: |
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...The_Ivory_Man posted...What's the difference between Blade and Achilles? The difference is you're only complaining about story changes when it's about skin color. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 04/18/18 2:46:36 PM #83: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...Tyranthraxus posted...The_Ivory_Man posted...What's the difference between Blade and Achilles? No, I'm asking what is the difference between Blade and Achilles. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/18/18 2:47:22 PM #84: |
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...The_Ivory_Man posted...Tyranthraxus posted...The_Ivory_Man posted...What's the difference between Blade and Achilles? That's the difference. Both had story changes but you're complaining about the one story change when it's about skin color. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 04/18/18 2:50:22 PM #85: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...Tyranthraxus posted...The_Ivory_Man posted...Tyranthraxus posted...The_Ivory_Man posted...What's the difference between Blade and Achilles? When? --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/18/18 2:58:42 PM #86: |
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Tyranthraxus posted... The_Ivory_Man posted... Both of them need to be the way they are for the story to proceed without changes. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/18/18 3:23:03 PM #88: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...What's the difference between Blade and Achilles? How would the story of Achilles need to change for Achilles to be white? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/18/18 3:24:59 PM #89: |
Hexenherz posted...
darkjedilink posted...Hexenherz posted...g0ldie posted...nah, it has supernatural elements and gods Fake, made-up characters representing a certain race. If changing the race of one is no big deal, surely changing the other would, too. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 04/18/18 3:25:13 PM #90: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...Tyranthraxus posted... ....The characters, for them to be the same characters they need to be the way they are. Every adaptation will have changes, but a Goku isn't equal to a Cogburn in terms of film adaptations, one is still the character. Achilles hides among young girls, because he's got long hair and is extremely pretty and it's why people like him. It's an essential part of his character to be like that. Just as for Blade to be the way he is. There will always be changes, but one can change a story without changing a character, and that doesn't have to be a race change but appearance is a big thing. If a story depicting Jesus came out where he had short hair and no beard, people would rightfully be allowed to complain that he is deviating from the character they know. So back to my question which spun out of control, what's the difference between Blade and Achilles that the poster mentioned? Because as far as I can tell there isn't anything. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medz1286 04/18/18 3:26:06 PM #91: |
Black washing
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The_Ivory_Man 04/18/18 3:27:27 PM #92: |
darkjedilink posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...The_Ivory_Man posted...What's the difference between Blade and Achilles? Achilles hides among young noble girls because of his fair hair and skin because he's so soft he appears womanly which actually attracts women to him. Unless all of Greece becomes black that isn't happening. And besides I don't know why they did race changes when they could have portrayed the Greeks as Greeks and the Turks as Turks. It's already a war between two very different cultures. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 04/18/18 3:28:07 PM #93: |
Dusk_ posted...
No, but when a character has a clear defined appearance why change it? Don't change folklore and myths just to push your shitty sjw agenda. Why aren't you angry that Jesus and Santa Claus aren't depicted as being brown-skinned like scientific evidence suggests, then? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/18/18 3:29:41 PM #94: |
Bio1590 posted...
Nah, just kinda interesting that you always end up on the side that's against or denigrating black people. Are you okay with whitewashing in media? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 04/18/18 3:38:36 PM #95: |
Garioshi posted...
Dusk_ posted...No, but when a character has a clear defined appearance why change it? Don't change folklore and myths just to push your shitty sjw agenda. Santa Claus? You mean Saint Nicholas I assume. He was Greek, people often assume him of being something else due to living in Turkey, but he was pretty white and even North Africans are white anyhow. The first descriptions of Jesus described him with long chestnut hair and lighter skin, there's a lot of evidence for those claims being bogus but there was a start. DNA tests saying "some people around the area looked like x, therefore everyone in the region was x" is stupid. They were both white. Reeeing over a character's skin being a few shades darker or lighter than traditional depictions is complaining over Jon Bernthal playing Punisher. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 04/18/18 3:42:02 PM #96: |
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Garioshi posted...Dusk_ posted...No, but when a character has a clear defined appearance why change it? Don't change folklore and myths just to push your shitty sjw agenda. ![]() Facial reconstruction of Saint Nicholas (who directly translates into being Santa Claus) ![]() Facial reconstruction of Jesus Calling them "white" is at best willfully ignorant. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/18/18 3:44:37 PM #97: |
The_Ivory_Man posted...
Achilles hides among young noble girls because of his fair hair and skin because he's so soft he appears womanly which actually attracts women to him. I really don't know what this post is saying. That there are no black women or that black men cannot disguise themselves as females? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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R_Jackal 04/18/18 3:49:24 PM #98: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...Achilles hides among young noble girls because of his fair hair and skin because he's so soft he appears womanly which actually attracts women to him. I think the focus was more on him being described as fair haired/skinned, which usually means pale. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/18/18 3:51:52 PM #99: |
R_Jackal posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...The_Ivory_Man posted...Achilles hides among young noble girls because of his fair hair and skin because he's so soft he appears womanly which actually attracts women to him. I am not contending that is how he was described in literature. I'm contending that he needs to be fair skinned to appear feminine. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 04/18/18 3:52:39 PM #100: |
JordanPeterson posted...
Do they realize that the ancient Greeks basically invented gay sex? Probably fake as well. Miss them with that gay **** --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 04/18/18 5:40:24 PM #101: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...Achilles hides among young noble girls because of his fair hair and skin because he's so soft he appears womanly which actually attracts women to him. Not in Ancient Greece no. Pretty hard for a big buff black dude with short hair to hide amongst young noble Greek women. You do know they can't even recognize Achilles on sight, right? Odysseus baits him into checking out a sword to figure out which "lady" he is. Him appearing feminine is why so many women like him, and he's so adored because he's pretty. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Ivory_Man 04/18/18 5:42:50 PM #102: |
Garioshi posted...
The_Ivory_Man posted...Garioshi posted...Dusk_ posted...No, but when a character has a clear defined appearance why change it? Don't change folklore and myths just to push your shitty sjw agenda. So one. Both of them are white, even in those depictions. Number two, Santa Claus takes inspiration in appearance from the European Father Christmas, he isn't just St. Nicholas who helped out lower members of society. Three, again do you know how those were done literally by "people in the Middle East looked like this" that's it. Jesus doesn't have DNA lying around believe it or not. --- "Just because someone is killed doesn't mean they died" - Shojikan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dash_Harber 04/18/18 6:31:10 PM #103: |
thelovefist posted...
Dash_Harber posted...the series only depicts Achilles as black. Doesn't really change the fact that we are talking about mythology, not history. thelovefist posted... You can most certainly argue the historical depictions of these characters which were most certainly never depicted as African. But, again, it's not based on anything historical, and shows or interpretations are not restricted to rehashing the exact same depictions over and over. If they were, all the women should be played by men and the entire thing needs to be in ancient Greek. The_Ivory_Man posted...
Actually, he is also based on Odin. That means that all future depictions of Santa Claus need to have one eye, you know, otherwise, it's just pandering to two-eyed people. The_Ivory_Man posted... Three, again do you know how those were done literally by "people in the Middle East looked like this" that's it. Are you trying to argue that Jesus magically had a Northern European appearance despite being a Jew born in the Middle East and not a single person thought to comment on that? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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