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Lord_Theruss
04/24/18 2:13:48 AM
#151:


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Lord_Theruss posted...
It is strange that an Armenian of all people would use a method of slaughter straight out of the jihadi terrorist playbook, even down to wanting the cops to shoot him afterwards. So now lunatics are copying jihadis... just what the world needs, more of that type of slaughter...

It's probably got nothing to do with religion, tbh. He was a software developer (not exactly the job I imagine a religious person in) who lived in Toronto his entire life, and praised Elliott Rodger.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-van-attack-driver-profile-alek-minassian-1.4632435


What I am saying is that he obviously took a cue from past vehicle terror attacks because of how effective they turned out to be. He may not follow Islam extremism, but he committed an act that in the past was done by such, even right down to wanting to die from the cops.

At least with jihadis you know their motive, this guy's motive on the other hand.... good thing he was taken alive despite his efforts to get shot by the police.
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juicebox4
04/24/18 2:14:22 AM
#152:


I hate this world, man

RIP
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HotMaladorianAI
04/24/18 2:14:40 AM
#153:


Minute posted...
SGT_Conti posted...
I think the biggest surprise was how they caught him, after that video of his arrest.

Dude didn't have a gun, because guns are hard to get in Canada. Wow, gun control actually works? Who woulda thunk, those Muricans are always insisting that killers find guns anyways.

But I digress. He faked having a gun, officer pulled his real gun and the killer decided his life wasn't worth it and gave up the act.


Guns are also legally highly regulated in Mexico. But Im guessing you wont be using them as an example
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HotMaladorianAI
04/24/18 2:16:14 AM
#154:


Minute posted...
Lord_Theruss posted...
It is strange that an Armenian of all people would use a method of slaughter straight out of the jihadi terrorist playbook, even down to wanting the cops to shoot him afterwards. So now lunatics are copying jihadis... just what the world needs, more of that type of slaughter...

It's probably got nothing to do with religion, tbh. He was a software developer (not exactly the job I imagine a religious person in) who lived in Toronto his entire life, and praised Elliott Rodger.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-van-attack-driver-profile-alek-minassian-1.4632435


Software developers cant be religious folks now?
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Minute
04/24/18 2:16:41 AM
#155:


HotMaladorianAI posted...
Guns are also legally highly regulated in Mexico. But Im guessing you wont be using them as an example

Wow, you sure got me. The state run by the Cartel doesn't enforce gun laws! Clearly, they are the rule, not the exception. Because every Government that has gun laws, is run by the Mexican Cartel.

You're so smart. How'd you get so smart?
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HotMaladorianAI
04/24/18 2:20:10 AM
#156:


Minute posted...
HotMaladorianAI posted...
Guns are also legally highly regulated in Mexico. But Im guessing you wont be using them as an example

Wow, you sure got me. The state run by the Cartel doesn't enforce gun laws! Clearly, they are the rule, not the exception. Because every Government that has gun laws, is run by the Mexican Cartel.

You're so smart. How'd you get so smart?


Your scenario relies on enforcement by the government. Pointing out that governments cant always be trusted does take away from your gun control sentiments. But have fun with your hyper passive aggressiveness
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Foppe
04/24/18 2:23:02 AM
#157:


So he was crazy, wanted a suicide by cops and chose a method that is easy to do, case closed.
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ThyCorndog
04/24/18 2:27:26 AM
#158:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
reading through this topic was interesting since the first 2 pages are full of people jumping to conclusions


If you really think that was just the first 2 pages... You obviously have a different messages per page setting than I do...

50 posts a page boi
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/24/18 2:30:10 AM
#159:


ThyCorndog posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
reading through this topic was interesting since the first 2 pages are full of people jumping to conclusions


If you really think that was just the first 2 pages... You obviously have a different messages per page setting than I do...

50 posts a page boi


I'm at 20. Math adds up, so I think we are... figuratively... on the same page >_>
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juicebox4
04/24/18 2:45:45 AM
#160:


Foppe posted...
So he was crazy, wanted a suicide by cops and chose a method that is easy to do, case closed.

when I heard he tried the death by cop method, I figured he went that route cuz he was gona get caught and didn't want prison. have they confirmed it was his intention from the getgo? I haven't followed this thoroughly and didn't read the whole topic.
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CatDog
04/24/18 10:43:34 AM
#161:


https://mobile.twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/988786051924791296

UPDATE: Facebook confirms to CBC's Matthew Braga @mattbraga that the post from Alek Minassian referencing "The Incel Rebellion" and Elliot Rodger is real, and was posted publicly on his profile before Facebook shut it down.
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Sativa_Rose
04/24/18 10:44:58 AM
#162:


Shit...

This is at least the 3rd Elliot Rodger inspired mass killing.
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The Great Muta 22
04/24/18 11:13:39 AM
#163:


CatDog posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/988786051924791296

UPDATE: Facebook confirms to CBC's Matthew Braga @mattbraga that the post from Alek Minassian referencing "The Incel Rebellion" and Elliot Rodger is real, and was posted publicly on his profile before Facebook shut it down.


Looks like I shouldn't have deleted my post afterall
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SGT_Conti
04/24/18 12:36:00 PM
#164:


Fuck all these Elliot Rodger-worshipping asshole incels.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/24/18 12:53:52 PM
#165:


Did the usual suspects ever come back?
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GreatEvilEmpire
04/24/18 1:17:00 PM
#166:


Condolences to the victims and their families. This should never happen to anyone.

I guess we have a new group of terrorists... incels.
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Blue_Dream87
04/24/18 7:45:05 PM
#167:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Did the usual suspects ever come back?


Nah, one guy doubled down though.

GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Condolences to the victims and their families. This should never happen to anyone.

I guess we have a new group of terrorists... incels.


I mean I'm not surprised that incel communities can breed violent thoughts and behaviors. Bounce your bitterness back and forth enough, have your thoughts validated, add a dash of hypermasculinity and that's a recipe for shit like this.
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Questionmarktarius
04/24/18 7:50:29 PM
#168:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
CatDog posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/988786051924791296

UPDATE: Facebook confirms to CBC's Matthew Braga @mattbraga that the post from Alek Minassian referencing "The Incel Rebellion" and Elliot Rodger is real, and was posted publicly on his profile before Facebook shut it down.


Looks like I shouldn't have deleted my post afterall

Looks like social networks and video sites shouldn't immediately unperson someone who starts mayhem.
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ASithLord7
04/25/18 1:11:59 AM
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Boy sure a lot of people who should be eating crow ITT

Second van attack in a row y'all wrongly jumped on to attack Muslims. Embarrassing.
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Medz1286
04/25/18 1:15:11 AM
#170:


ASithLord7 posted...
Boy sure a lot of people who should be eating crow ITT

Second van attack in a row y'all wrongly jumped on to attack Muslims. Embarrassing.

seems like vans are to blame. ban vans
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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 1:40:25 AM
#171:


Muslims Islamists

And yay it is not an Islamist for the 2nd time in a row... it is just other fanatics adopting this effective method of slaughter made infamous by ISIS and their ilk.
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Medz1286
04/25/18 1:43:30 AM
#172:


make murder illegal
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ASithLord7
04/25/18 1:46:33 AM
#173:


Lord_Theruss posted...
Muslims Islamists

And yay it is not an Islamist for the 2nd time in a row... it is just other fanatics adopting this effective method of slaughter made infamous by ISIS and their ilk.

The earliest known use of a vehicle-ramming attack took place in 1973 in Prague, former Czechoslovakia, when Olga Hepnarov killed 8 people.

And everyone hates Islamists. The people jumping into these topics bursting with joy simply hate Muslims.
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Medz1286
04/25/18 1:53:50 AM
#174:


ASithLord7 posted...
Lord_Theruss posted...
Muslims Islamists

And yay it is not an Islamist for the 2nd time in a row... it is just other fanatics adopting this effective method of slaughter made infamous by ISIS and their ilk.

The earliest known use of a vehicle-ramming attack took place in 1973 in Prague, former Czechoslovakia, when Olga Hepnarov killed 8 people.

And everyone hates Islamists. The people jumping into these topics bursting with joy simply hate Muslims.

The Japanese used a flying vehicle to "ram attack" in the early to mid 1940s
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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 1:54:42 AM
#175:


ASithLord7 posted...
Lord_Theruss posted...
Muslims Islamists

And yay it is not an Islamist for the 2nd time in a row... it is just other fanatics adopting this effective method of slaughter made infamous by ISIS and their ilk.

The earliest known use of a vehicle-ramming attack took place in 1973 in Prague, former Czechoslovakia, when Olga Hepnarov killed 8 people.

And everyone hates Islamists. The people jumping into these topics bursting with joy simply hate Muslims.


So they hate on Muslims because of actions of Islamists. As a result, Muslims may become and join up with Islamists, does that sound about right?
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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 1:56:24 AM
#176:


Medz1286 posted...

The Japanese used a flying vehicle to "ram attack" in the early to mid 1940s


Kamikaze.
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Medz1286
04/25/18 1:59:34 AM
#177:


Ships during naval warfare would "ram attack" each other before the 1940s as well
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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 2:01:14 AM
#178:


Lord_Theruss posted...
it is just other fanatics adopting this effective method of slaughter made infamous by ISIS and their ilk.


I should been more specific...

it is just other fanatics adopting this effective method of slaughter made infamous by ISIS and their ilk in the last decade.
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spikethedevil
04/25/18 10:42:25 AM
#179:


Police say he isn't a terrorist despite him admiring Elliot Roger /facepalm.
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Questionmarktarius
04/25/18 11:09:45 AM
#180:


spikethedevil posted...
Police say he isn't a terrorist despite him admiring Elliot Roger /facepalm.

Is there some political expediency in not doing so, like a "turrizm!" payout fund or something?
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Frostshock
04/25/18 12:00:36 PM
#181:


Questionmarktarius posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Police say he isn't a terrorist despite him admiring Elliot Roger /facepalm.

Is there some political expediency in not doing so, like a "turrizm!" payout fund or something?


Well the last time we had a terrorist in Canada, he got a $10 million payout and an apology from the government.
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The Great Muta 22
04/25/18 12:14:33 PM
#182:


It's wild how many of you people STILL want to make this an argument over Islam
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ASithLord7
04/25/18 12:30:31 PM
#183:


Right? Cant say Muslims did it so they have to say they inspired it.
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Ammonitida
04/25/18 12:34:29 PM
#184:


spikethedevil posted...
Police say he isn't a terrorist despite him admiring Elliot Roger /facepalm.

It definitely should be considered terrorism just based on that Facebook post.
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SGT_Conti
04/25/18 12:37:39 PM
#185:


Frostshock posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Police say he isn't a terrorist despite him admiring Elliot Roger /facepalm.

Is there some political expediency in not doing so, like a "turrizm!" payout fund or something?


Well the last time we had a terrorist in Canada, he got a $10 million payout and an apology from the government.

SGT_Conti posted...
I don't know why people constantly mischaracterize what happened here but it's really annoying
I don't know if they're malicious or simply just willfully ignorant

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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 4:46:39 PM
#186:


ASithLord7 posted...
Right? Cant say Muslims did it so they have to say they inspired it.

Lord_Theruss posted...
Muslims Islamists
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Broseph_Stalin
04/25/18 4:51:34 PM
#187:


Imagine trying to argue that vehicular homicide and suicide by cop are "Islamist things" because you're that desperate to find a link.

Get help.
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thelovefist
04/25/18 4:52:51 PM
#188:


Frostshock posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Police say he isn't a terrorist despite him admiring Elliot Roger /facepalm.

Is there some political expediency in not doing so, like a "turrizm!" payout fund or something?


Well the last time we had a terrorist in Canada, he got a $10 million payout and an apology from the government.

Shut the fuck up
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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 4:57:36 PM
#189:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Imagine trying to argue that vehicular homicide and suicide by cop are "Islamist things" because you're that desperate to find a link.

Get help.


ISIS literally said this.

"So O muwahhid, do not let this battle pass you by wherever you may be. You must strike the soldiers, patrons, and troops of the tawaghit. Strike their police, security, and intelligence members, as well as their treacherous agents. Destroy their beds. Embitter their lives for them and busy them with themselves. If you can kill a disbelieving American or European especially the spiteful and filthy French or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be.If you are not able to find an IED or a bullet, then single out the disbelieving American, Frenchman, or any of their allies. Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him."

And we have seen all these actions done in the past decade. But you guys keep ignoring it and pretend it will go away if you keep appeasing them, because appeasement has always worked in regards to Islam throughout history.
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Broseph_Stalin
04/25/18 5:00:57 PM
#190:


"ISIS told its followers to shoot, stab, poison, choke and run people over so if anyone ever does that it's because of Islam"

Get
Fucking
Help
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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 5:13:46 PM
#191:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
"ISIS told its followers to shoot, stab, poison, choke and run people over so if anyone ever does that it's because of Islam"

Get
Fucking
Help


Lord_Theruss posted...
it is just other fanatics adopting this effective method of slaughter made infamous by ISIS and their ilk in the last decade.
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thelovefist
04/25/18 5:14:48 PM
#192:


Why is @Lord_Theruss talking about Islamic terrorism ITT?
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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 5:17:54 PM
#193:


thelovefist posted...
Why is @Lord_Theruss talking about Islamic terrorism ITT?


Lord_Theruss posted...
What I am saying is that he obviously took a cue from past vehicle terror attacks because of how effective they turned out to be. He may not follow Islam extremism, but he committed an act that in the past was done by such, even right down to wanting to die from the cops.

At least with jihadis you know their motive, this guy's motive on the other hand.... good thing he was taken alive despite his efforts to get shot by the police.


Not sure why I bother arguing with allies of Islam that are happy that Islam did not commit this act... this time...
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thelovefist
04/25/18 5:19:08 PM
#195:


Lord_Theruss posted...
thelovefist posted...
Why is @Lord_Theruss talking about Islamic terrorism ITT?


Lord_Theruss posted...
What I am saying is that he obviously took a cue from past vehicle terror attacks because of how effective they turned out to be. He may not follow Islam extremism, but he committed an act that in the past was done by such, even right down to wanting to die from the cops.

At least with jihadis you know their motive, this guy's motive on the other hand.... good thing he was taken alive despite his efforts to get shot by the police.


Not sure why I bother arguing with allies of Islam that are happy that Islam did not commit this act... this time...

How am I an "ally of Islam" for asking why you are talking about Islam in a topic about a van attack in my city that has no connection to Islam?
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Broseph_Stalin
04/25/18 5:20:15 PM
#196:


thelovefist posted...
Why is @Lord_Theruss talking about Islamic terrorism ITT?


His whole posting history is full of bizarre and incoherent rants against Islam, even in topics that have nothing to do with it. Red flags for sure.
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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 5:21:18 PM
#197:


thelovefist posted...
Lord_Theruss posted...
thelovefist posted...
Why is @Lord_Theruss talking about Islamic terrorism ITT?


Lord_Theruss posted...
What I am saying is that he obviously took a cue from past vehicle terror attacks because of how effective they turned out to be. He may not follow Islam extremism, but he committed an act that in the past was done by such, even right down to wanting to die from the cops.

At least with jihadis you know their motive, this guy's motive on the other hand.... good thing he was taken alive despite his efforts to get shot by the police.


Not sure why I bother arguing with allies of Islam that are happy that Islam did not commit this act... this time...

How am I an "ally of Islam" for asking why you are talking about Islam in a topic about a van attack in my city that has no connection to Islam?


Not referring to you as such. Just telling you why I am talking about it, and why I should probably stop.

The attack was simply similar to previous attacks done by such.
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Broseph_Stalin
04/25/18 5:29:22 PM
#198:


Lord_Theruss posted...
Just telling you why I am talking about it


You're talking about it because you assumed the killer would be Muslim and are desperate to justify that ignorance.

Lord_Theruss posted...
He is your typical jihadi. Slay unbelievers and hope to be killed in battle and thus he can enter paradise
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Lord_Theruss
04/25/18 5:36:14 PM
#199:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Lord_Theruss posted...
Just telling you why I am talking about it


You're talking about it because you assumed the killer would be Muslim and are desperate to justify that ignorance.

Lord_Theruss posted...
He is your typical jihadi. Slay unbelievers and hope to be killed in battle and thus he can enter paradise


It is almost as if it was very similar to certain other attacks... but hey at least the attacks are more diverse now.
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Broseph_Stalin
04/25/18 5:41:29 PM
#200:


Lord_Theruss posted...
It is almost as if it was very similar to certain other attacks... but hey at least the attacks are more diverse now.


Yeah, it's really similar to the last attack that also wasn't committed by a Muslim. It's almost like all cases of running people over with a car involve running people over with a car.
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