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Blue_Inigo
04/23/18 2:59:46 PM
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Disney made him seem like the coolest guy. They really candy coated these greek gods lol. Zeus is a freak
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Bloodychess
04/23/18 3:00:25 PM
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Disney candy coats pretty much everyone from the stories they rip off

It's a kids company
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Dustin1280
04/23/18 3:00:36 PM
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The greek gods were mostly assholes. They had the same vices that humans do but they had godly powers to back themselves up.
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MC_BatCommander
04/23/18 3:01:09 PM
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Hercules for the most part from what I can recall was more of a tragic figure in myth than anything. Every time he tries to get his life together Hera throws a touch of the insanity his way and makes him wreck everything. It's been a long ass time since I've read the myths though so I don't know for sure.
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glitteringfairy
04/23/18 3:01:10 PM
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Gonna make the topic and then not give examples of how he was an asshole
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Blue_Inigo
04/23/18 3:01:35 PM
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Hades is actually one of the nicer guys from what I remember. Kinda funny since Disney made him the biggest dick
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Foppe
04/23/18 3:02:02 PM
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Turning into animals just to fuck cute girls is freakish now?
...wait a minute...
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UnfairRepresent
04/23/18 3:02:50 PM
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Everyone in Greek Mythology is an asshole

There was no desire to make the Gods likable and love you like there is now with Christianity.
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eston
04/23/18 3:03:15 PM
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IIRC the underworld was not like hell where people are punished for their earthly sins, it was just a place like any other place
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Blue_Inigo
04/23/18 3:03:16 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Gonna make the topic and then not give examples of how he was an asshole

I dont actually remember the dickish things he did but I do remember he did some pretty fucked up shit.

I think he killed or beat the shit out of his kids???
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Tyranthraxus
04/23/18 3:03:24 PM
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Hercules isn't an asshole in Greek Mythology, he's an asshole in Roman Mythology.

There's this other Greek asshole named Heracles, though.
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gamer167
04/23/18 3:03:59 PM
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I would go most anywhere to feel.. like I.... belooooooooong
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Tyranthraxus
04/23/18 3:04:11 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Gonna make the topic and then not give examples of how he was an asshole

I dont actually remember the dickish things he did but I do remember he did some pretty fucked up shit.

I think he killed or beat the shit out of his kids???

Killed wife and kid.

Like they basically transplanted His history onto kratos in God of War.
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MC_BatCommander
04/23/18 3:06:19 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Gonna make the topic and then not give examples of how he was an asshole

I dont actually remember the dickish things he did but I do remember he did some pretty fucked up shit.

I think he killed or beat the shit out of his kids???


Yeah but he only killed his family because of Hera's influence. She would make him go temporarily insane at random times because she hated him so much.
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Warrior_Man
04/23/18 3:07:14 PM
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Most instances of Hercules being a "dick" are a demi-god taking vengeance on mortals who wronged him in one way or the other. And when a demi-god fucks you over, you stay fucked.

Example: Herc makes a deal with Laomedon to kill a sea monster sent by Poseidon so he won't have to sacrifice his daughter. Laomedon refuses to reward Herc with the promised horses, so Herc burns Troy to the ground and executes all of Laomedon's sons except one.
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DeadSite
04/23/18 3:07:17 PM
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Isn't he a rapist too
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Tyranthraxus
04/23/18 3:07:32 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Blue_Inigo posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Gonna make the topic and then not give examples of how he was an asshole

I dont actually remember the dickish things he did but I do remember he did some pretty fucked up shit.

I think he killed or beat the shit out of his kids???


Yeah but he only killed his family because of Hera's influence. She would make him go temporarily insane at random times because she hated him so much.


She doesn't really just "make him insane" it's more like an Iago / Othello type thing where she tricks him into doing horrible things.
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pkmnlord
04/23/18 3:10:16 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Killed wife and kid.

Like they basically transplanted His history onto kratos in God of War.

And you confront him in God of War III, where he whines about Kratos getting all of Zeus' attention after becoming the new god of war while he was stuck with cleaning duties.
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UrCa1988
04/23/18 3:11:58 PM
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pkmnlord posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...

Killed wife and kid.

Like they basically transplanted His history onto kratos in God of War.

And you confront him in God of War III, where he whines about Kratos getting all of Zeus' attention after becoming the new god of war while he was stuck with cleaning duties.

Well, he did have to clean stables as one of his labors...
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HylianFox
04/23/18 3:14:20 PM
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in most movies Herc just gets drunk and hangs out with some evil queen lady until he realizes he's been had
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DoomSwell
04/23/18 3:34:34 PM
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I just watch Kevin Sorbo, as far as Im concerned that's legit enough for me.
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DrizztLink
04/23/18 3:41:11 PM
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eston posted...
IIRC the underworld was not like hell where people are punished for their earthly sins, it was just a place like any other place

Sisyphus and Tantalus would like a word.
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UnfairRepresent
04/24/18 3:38:04 AM
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DoomSwell posted...
I just watch Kevin Sorbo, as far as Im concerned that's legit enough for me.

He turned out to be an asshole too :(
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Irony
04/24/18 3:39:32 AM
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Basically that one Three Stooges movie.
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TheCyborgNinja
04/24/18 3:41:01 AM
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Honey, you mean Hunkules!
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
04/24/18 3:41:54 AM
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Heracles is a tragic character

You're meant to despair at his constant pains despite his seemingly heroic deeds
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Deadpool_18
04/24/18 3:41:58 AM
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Dustin1280 posted...
The greek gods were mostly assholes. They had the same vices that humans do but they had godly powers to back themselves up.


This. Im pretty sure ALL theGreek gods were dicks.
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Phantom_Nook
04/24/18 3:42:53 AM
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Disney's Hercules was pretty much Rocky/Superman with copious amounts of Greek paint and James Woods applied.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
04/24/18 3:42:59 AM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
This. Im pretty sure ALL theGreek gods were dicks.

I mean not REALLY
They were portrayed as being just as selfish as humans were - they had no trouble being petty with their fellow gods

They just weren't viewed as always benevolent, even though they were capable of it
Athena especially is kind to some heroes
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pegusus123456
04/24/18 3:45:54 AM
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DrizztLink posted...
eston posted...
IIRC the underworld was not like hell where people are punished for their earthly sins, it was just a place like any other place

Sisyphus and Tantalus would like a word.

I believe you're both right. Hades had three different destinations for the dead. Tartarus was "hell." The Elysian Fields were "heaven." And there was a third one for people that didn't fit anywhere else.
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kuwab0
04/24/18 3:48:08 AM
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NOM
04/24/18 3:48:48 AM
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Don't worry man Kratos kicked his ass
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
04/24/18 3:50:12 AM
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kuwab0 posted...
Prometheus is the only non Asshole

he only wanted to get back at his fellow gods by giving fire to man

lets not pretend he wasn't being petty too
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Dash_Harber
04/24/18 3:50:33 AM
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Greek and Roman mythology is almost entirely about assholes or victims of assholes. Take Medusa for example; the reason she is so hideous is that she was a beautiful woman who was raped in the temple of Athena, which angered Athena into turning her into a monster.

Weirdly, Norse mythology seems to get the opposite treatment. Everyone is painted as bloodthirsty berzerkers, but the stories are quite different according to records.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
04/24/18 3:51:36 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Weirdly, Norse mythology seems to get the opposite treatment. Everyone is painted as bloodthirsty berzerkers, but the stories are quite different according to records.

norse mythology is like a soap opera lmao
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Dash_Harber
04/24/18 3:53:11 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
Weirdly, Norse mythology seems to get the opposite treatment. Everyone is painted as bloodthirsty berzerkers, but the stories are quite different according to records.

norse mythology is like a soap opera lmao

I don't know that I'd agree, but my point is that the Norse gods are often painted as insane Viking warriors and berzerkers, when very few of them were traditionally portrayed that way.
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