Current Events > Evidence of discrimination against men.

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rahasperj posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

rahasperj posted...

Nomadic View posted...

You shouldnt do that. Your grade is more important than sticking it to some crazy SJW. Just parrot her nonsense and walk out with your A.

You're right. It's really not worth it. But I think if she likes to express her views, we should express ours.

This might come down to wisdom. You gotta learn to pick your battles. You have more to lose her than she does.

Again you're right, but I still feel like it's wrong just to do what she wants for a grade. :/

I agree with Nomadic and Ash on this instance.
You should be treating your grades as more valuable than wasting your time razzing a potential extremist you don't agree with.

You remember the saying "living well is the best revenge"...?
Pass her class by regurgitating whatever propaganda she wants to hear and get a high grade despite not actually believing any of her biased tripe.

I'm a moderate liberal, but even I can admit a number of my left-leaning college instructors were blatant extremists in their ideologies and curriculum. Instead of worrying about being brainwashed by their political crap or plotting pointless rebellions that put my grade at risk, I just parroted what they wanted to see on my papers and ironically aced their courses.

The best defiance to their political preaching is to forget their opinionated garbage after your have gotten your passing grade and retain your ability to free think. The point is they didn't stop you from obtaining a passing grade despite having beliefs that they would have found offensive. That is your victory...
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ClockworkHare posted...

rahasperj posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

rahasperj posted...

Nomadic View posted...

You shouldnt do that. Your grade is more important than sticking it to some crazy SJW. Just parrot her nonsense and walk out with your A.

You're right. It's really not worth it. But I think if she likes to express her views, we should express ours.

This might come down to wisdom. You gotta learn to pick your battles. You have more to lose her than she does.

Again you're right, but I still feel like it's wrong just to do what she wants for a grade. :/

I agree with Nomadic and Ash on this instance.
You should be treating your grades as more valuable than wasting your time razzing a potential extremist you don't agree with.

You remember the saying "living well is the best revenge"...?
Pass her class by regurgitating whatever propaganda she wants to hear and get a high grade despite not actually believing any of her biased tripe.

I'm a moderate liberal, but even I can admit a number of my left-leaning college instructors were blatant extremists in their ideologies and curriculum. Instead of worrying about being brainwashed by their political crap or plotting pointless rebellions that put my grade at risk, I just parroted what they wanted to see on my papers and ironically aced their courses.

The best defiance to their political preaching is to forget their opinionated garbage after your have gotten your passing grade and retain your ability to free think. The point is they didn't stop you from obtaining a passing grade despite having beliefs that they would have found offensive. That is your victory...

Wow, that was actually really deep. Maybe I won't do it.
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rahasperj posted...

Writing a paper for my prof. about gender discrimination, but because she's a radical feminist she's expecting a bunch of papers about women being put down by society, well, I thought I'd flip the script and do men, but I need solid, undisputable points. What've you got CE?

https://www.yalelawjournal.org/article/mandatory-sentencing-and-racial-disparity-assessing-the-role-of-prosecutors-and-the-effects-of-booker

Finally, another limitation is that we only include men. Starrs related study examines gender disparities and race-gender interactions.120 She finds unexplained gender disparities that dwarf the racial disparities our joint study found: men receive sentences that are over 60% longer than womens, even after controlling for the arrest offense, criminal history, and other pre-charge observable characteristics.121 These gaps are much larger than most other studies have estimated becauseas with racethey appear to mostly arise prior to the final sentencing decision.122

FLUFFYGERM posted...

the public education system has deemed boy behavior to be bad and girl behavior to be good not because either one is inherently good or bad, but because there is an anti male bias

rofl where did you go to school
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Honestly, she can't fail you for doing the paper you want to.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

the public education system has deemed boy behavior to be bad and girl behavior to be good not because either one is inherently good or bad, but because there is an anti male bias

rofl where did you go to school

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shockthemonkey posted...

The amount of people assuming shes going to fuck TC over is weird, just write a good paper with good evidence and youll do fine.

This honestly. Most people that complain about getting a shitty grade in these kinds of assignments do so because their arguments are either weak or don't have enough factual evidence to support their points.
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This is why Trump won, contrarian nonsense put him over the edge

ImmortalityV posted...

This is why Trump won, contrarian nonsense put him over the edge

SJWsa re evil but, the ones who are blatantly racist or offensive are not a real issue, right?

The education angle is worth looking into. I thought these articles were interesting, but theres a lot more out there.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/update-kindergarten-teacher-denies-legos-to-boys-in-name-of-gender-equity

http://ideas.time.com/2013/02/06/do-teachers-really-discriminate-against-boys/

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/
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shockthemonkey posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

the public education system has deemed boy behavior to be bad and girl behavior to be good not because either one is inherently good or bad, but because there is an anti male bias

rofl where did you go to school

Its Proudclad, you cant expect him to make sense all the time

I mean, he's not exactly wrong. Boys are much less likely to sit and be quiet, for example, than girls. And they are punished for that disproportionately in the grading process.
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Don't forget about discrimination in the military. Men - and only men - are legally required to register for selective service, plus they're the only ones allowed in combat roles. Women can join the military and receive all the benefits without really having to worry about being sent to die in combat.

If your prof. is a hardcore modern feminist it is a very bad idea to try your idea as she can literally give a shit grade if she doesnt like it.

I cant stand modern feminists either but challenging her in her arena is just a stupid decision and she will have even more to slam you on if your a white male.

Dont risk your GPA with this bitch, like others have said if she has been there a while no one will go against her grade decision.

@rahasperj
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This happened
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awesome999 posted...

Divorce

Teachers and high school students

shockthemonkey posted...

Suicide and work death rates
Custody battles
Prison sentences for the same crime

Twin3Turbo posted...

Highwind07 posted...

Domestic abuse not taken seriously and sometimes maybe even flat out denied.

Yep, despite most domestic violence being mutual combat (where the the physical portion is statistically typically initiated by the female partner), AND male on female un-reciprocated DV has demonstrably decreased over the past half a century plus to levels that are actually currently lower than female on male un-reciprocated DV IIRC, the problem is still primarily viewed and treated by the mainstream as a "male hitting female = bad" issue only.

joestarrr posted...

the hilariously ironic thing about this topic being "boooo feminism" is that most feminists acknowledge this crap in their activism.

the even better thing about much of the discrimination towards men: it's rooted in old patriarchal standards about women being more "innocent" and "domesticated" than men. hence, child custody cases often ruling in favor of the mother.

Yall are smart people.

Write the paper if you want, but be well aware you're taking a massive risk if you don't think your professor is going to be fair.

School assignments, in general, and specifically with writing assignments or things that aren't hard data situations, are always about knowing who is grading and playing to what they want to see.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Esrac posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

the public education system has deemed boy behavior to be bad and girl behavior to be good not because either one is inherently good or bad, but because there is an anti male bias

rofl where did you go to school

Its Proudclad, you cant expect him to make sense all the time

I mean, he's not exactly wrong. Boys are much less likely to sit and be quiet, for example, than girls. And they are punished for that disproportionately in the grading process.

Yes, and punishing disruptive behavior isnt the same as having an anti-male bias. Its more complicated than that.

Like he said, typical boy behavior is considered bad and typical girl behavior is considered good. And the boys are unfairly graded more poorly due to being less docile than the girls. I've also seen it argued that they are graded and punished more harshly for equivalent performance (which wouldn't be surprising, considering men are punished more harshly for committing similar crimes in the justice system).

I think @Darkman124 had a good source on that trend a while back. Maybe he'd be kind enough to share it again.

Regardless, the reality of the situation is we have a serious difference in the number of boys who graduate highschool and go on to college and the number of girls who do so. I suspect schools and teachers being unfairly harsh on boys is a contributing factor to that.
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Custody of children
Ability to be drafted
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Wouldn't expecting a bunch of papers on only women be able to be discriminated against be a version a male discrimination?
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I would like to point out here that you're starting your research here with your conclusion, a decision which is politically motivated, by your own admission. And then you start looking for evidence to support it.

This is kind of exactly how not to write a research paper. If you wanted to try and reconcile interviews talking about the impression of male discrimination with that research holding the prevailing view and try to see how it is that these opposing ideas have spread simultaneously across American culture, I think you'll arrive at something more academic, more useful, more interesting to read, etc. It's much better than scouring the internet for sources that you already agree with.

As it is now, you just feel like pissing off your professor. This is rich, because you (or your parents) are paying for that class, and if you were just going to screw around you could have saved some money or taken something else.
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Don't know much about the other stuff, but working in retail I've found that there are usually designated roles for each gender. Women are usually up front on cash, while men are working stock or pushing carts.

Which is ridiculous btw, I work front end all the time, and I've seen a couple women fully capable of pushing as many or more carts as men.

Take that for what it is.

Ivany2008 posted...

Don't know much about the other stuff, but working in retail I've found that there are usually designated roles for each gender. Women are usually up front on cash, while men are working stock or pushing carts.

Which is ridiculous btw, I work front end all the time, and I've seen a couple women fully capable of pushing as many or more carts as men.

Take that for what it is.

When I worked in a grocery store, for the most part that was the case there too. There were obviously exceptions on both ends but for the most part, men did more heavy lifting jobs than women.

Not sure how much of it is due to discrimination or just that men in general are more comfortable dealing with shit like that.
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Twin3Turbo posted...

Ivany2008 posted...

Don't know much about the other stuff, but working in retail I've found that there are usually designated roles for each gender. Women are usually up front on cash, while men are working stock or pushing carts.

Which is ridiculous btw, I work front end all the time, and I've seen a couple women fully capable of pushing as many or more carts as men.

Take that for what it is.

When I worked in a grocery store, for the most part that was the case there too. There were obviously exceptions on both ends but for the most part, men did more heavy lifting jobs than women.

Not sure how much of it is due to discrimination or just that men in general are more comfortable dealing with shit like that.

On a semi-related note, I seem to recall that memo James Damore wrote at Google (the one that got him fired). In it he mentioned that even when Google does hire women, they're typically in human relations departments.
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