Current Events > Time stone could've 1vWorld in Infinite War *SPOILERS*

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Re-iNcarnated posted...

Also he LITERALLY tried to kill Gremora just prior to that scene. If that hadn't happened I'd understand, but once you are willing to kill someone, you shouldn't react like he did, at the cost of half the universe, at that very persons, you were trying to kill, death.

This is true.
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When you rustle the jimmies of the marvel fanbois lul

The results of the movie are centered entirely around the stupid decisions of the heroes, which cheapens the villain just like it does them. And that kind of sucks because Thanos is very clearly the best part of the movie.

Dragonblade01 posted...

The results of the movie are centered entirely around the stupid decisions of the heroes, which cheapens the villain just like it does them. And that kind of sucks because Thanos is very clearly the best part of the movie.

One problem I had with Thanos's philosophy, which is everything in the universe finite, that's why having overpopulation would become a threat to the existence of their species. With the infinity gauntlet, isn't he practically a god and he can do whatever he wants, like replenish resources or make it bountiful? Becuase sooner or later they are just going to end up where they left off with overpopulation. What is he going to be a periodical reaper?

But yeah, Josh Brolin nailed it.

Re-iNcarnated posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

The results of the movie are centered entirely around the stupid decisions of the heroes, which cheapens the villain just like it does them. And that kind of sucks because Thanos is very clearly the best part of the movie.

One problem I had with Thanos's philosophy, which is everything in the universe finite, that's why having overpopulation would become a threat to the existence of their species. With the infinity gauntlet, isn't he practically a god and he can do whatever he wants, like replenish resources or make it bountiful? Becuase sooner or later they are just going to end up where they left off with overpopulation. What is he going to be a periodical reaper?

But yeah, Josh Brolin nailed it.

Yeah, that was kind of a problem. But that's always been a problem in these superhero pantheons: Godlike powers and devices used well below what they're actually capable of.

Dragonblade01 posted...

The results of the movie are centered entirely around the stupid decisions of the heroes, which cheapens the villain just like it does them. And that kind of sucks because Thanos is very clearly the best part of the movie.

They were UNDERSTANDABLY stupid. Everything fit the characters.

OctilIery posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

The results of the movie are centered entirely around the stupid decisions of the heroes, which cheapens the villain just like it does them. And that kind of sucks because Thanos is very clearly the best part of the movie.

They were UNDERSTANDABLY stupid. Everything fit the characters.

It would have been in-character if they hadn't made those decisions as well. Quill didn't need to hit Thanos in order to be in-character. Doctor Strange didn't need to relinquish the time stone to be in-character, and you could make a case for it being out-of-character.

But the writers chose that because they wanted a close-call in this film, and cheapened multiple characters in doing so.

Dragonblade01 posted...

Quill didn't need to hit Thanos in order to be in-character

Really, a character that has made rash decisions and reacted violently when someone he loves was killed would've NOT hit him? Bullshit.

Dragonblade01 posted...

Doctor Strange didn't need to relinquish the time stone to be in-character

Really, the character who went on about it being important to protect, who then actually used it to see how they could win, wouldn't accept that giving it up was the right thing? Bullshit.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Quill didn't need to hit Thanos in order to be in-character

Really, a character that has made rash decisions and reacted violently when someone he loves was killed would've NOT hit him?

Correct, because Quill also understands when stakes are high and people's lives are hanging in the balance. Quill absolutely would have hit him, but it would have made just as much sense for his character to wait until after the glove was off.

Really, the character who went on about it being important to protect, who then actually used it to see how they could win, wouldn't accept that giving it up was the right thing?

He went on about it being important to protect the stone. Furthermore, the entire purpose of that sort of thing is when writers need to justify bad decisions. We, the audience, know how he could have used the time stone to end the problem then and there. The writers know that too. So that add that scene to basically tell the audience "Hey, this might seem stupid, but it's actually not because this is the only way they could win." It's the very definition of lazy writing.

Idk if its been said, but Strange said he went through a bunch of timelines and there was only one where they won. This is (hopefully) it. Hes playing the long game.
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OctilIery posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

The results of the movie are centered entirely around the stupid decisions of the heroes, which cheapens the villain just like it does them. And that kind of sucks because Thanos is very clearly the best part of the movie.

They were UNDERSTANDABLY stupid. Everything fit the characters.

Really? Because them being stupid in the previous films led to them winning anyway.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Idk if its been said, but Strange said he went through a bunch of timelines and there was only one where they won. This is (hopefully) it. Hes playing the long game.

So if you acknowledge that it's in character, the fuck are you bitching about?

Dragonblade01 posted...

He went on about it being important to protect the stone. Furthermore, the entire purpose of that sort of thing is when writers need to justify bad decisions. We, the audience, know how he could have used the time stone to end the problem then and there. The writers know that too. So that add that scene to basically tell the audience "Hey, this might seem stupid, but it's actually not because this is the only way they could win." It's the very definition of lazy writing.

He's already used the stone in a creative way, of COURSE he would consider using it but it doesn't work out. End of story.
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dave_is_slick posted...

He's already used the stone in a creative way, of COURSE he would consider using it but it doesn't work out. End of story.

And it's still a cut and dry example of lazy writing. End of story.

Dragonblade01 posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

He's already used the stone in a creative way, of COURSE he would consider using it but it doesn't work out. End of story.

And it's still a cut and dry example of lazy writing. End of story.

No, you people are just mad that they didn't show you all 14 million possibilities. I mean jesus, AFTER he says this is when they try pulling the gauntlet off and everyone but Strange tries to stop him. It was doomed to failure and I'm sorry everyone didn't act perfectly.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

He's already used the stone in a creative way, of COURSE he would consider using it but it doesn't work out. End of story.

And it's still a cut and dry example of lazy writing. End of story.

No, you people are just mad that they didn't show you all 14 million possibilities. I mean jesus, AFTER he says this is when they try pulling the gauntlet off and everyone but Strange tries to stop him. It was doomed to failure and I'm sorry everyone didn't act perfectly.

Yes, and that was a deliberate choice on the writers' part, because any proper analysis of that scene makes it clear that the purpose was to justify the otherwise stupid and even bizarre choices of the characters.

Re-iNcarnated posted...

Also Strange himself said he would sacrifice both Stark and Peter for the time stone, only not doing so.

It's clearly part of what Strange saw was the only way to defeat Thanos. Cmon brah
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Dragonblade01 posted...

the otherwise stupid and even bizarre choices of the characters.

You keep saying this but it's obvious you don't actually know what you're talking about.
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dave_is_slick posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Idk if its been said, but Strange said he went through a bunch of timelines and there was only one where they won. This is (hopefully) it. Hes playing the long game.

So if you acknowledge that it's in character, the fuck are you bitching about?

I was never bitching. Take a chill pill rofl. Was saying why they didnt destroy the stone. Would have been the wrong move.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Idk if its been said, but Strange said he went through a bunch of timelines and there was only one where they won. This is (hopefully) it. Hes playing the long game.

So if you acknowledge that it's in character, the fuck are you bitching about?

I was never bitching. Take a chill pill rofl. Was saying why they didnt destroy the stone. Would have been the wrong move.

Wait, how did that quote you?
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Dragonblade01 posted...

The results of the movie are centered entirely around the stupid decisions of the heroes, which cheapens the villain just like it does them. And that kind of sucks because Thanos is very clearly the best part of the movie.

I posted a topic suggesting the same thing . But it devolved into just issues with the time stone. LOL... But anywho I will not bring up that. And talk about some of the other dumb stuff that they did .

They should have killed Vision. Literally to save Vision that brought hell to Wakanda and let the bad guy win. Honestly the good guys failing so hard , just wanting to save one robot, makes Ross look like he was right.
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dave_is_slick posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

the otherwise stupid and even bizarre choices of the characters.

You keep saying this but it's obvious you don't actually know what you're talking about.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. You just refuse to admit that the movie's writing might not be airtight.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

dave_is_slick posted...

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Idk if its been said, but Strange said he went through a bunch of timelines and there was only one where they won. This is (hopefully) it. Hes playing the long game.

So if you acknowledge that it's in character, the fuck are you bitching about?

I was never bitching. Take a chill pill rofl. Was saying why they didnt destroy the stone. Would have been the wrong move.

That guy is firing all cylinders today.

cjsdowg posted...

They should have killed Vision.

Would've been completely out of character for Cap and the rest.

cjsdowg posted...

makes Ross look like he was right.

In some ways, Ross IS right. The heroes and their desire to never kill unless truly necessary for one, makes them make a lot of stupid decisions
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Stover46 posted...

Would've been completely out of character for Cap and the rest.

So they don't kill Vision and literally bring the bad guys to the Wakanda. Every life lost in Wakanda is on the heads of the heroes because they didn't want to hurt their friend. This is why Erik would have been a better King.
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cjsdowg posted...

Stover46 posted...

Would've been completely out of character for Cap and the rest.

So they don't kill Vision and literally bring the bad guys to the Wakanda. Every life lost in Wakanda is on the heads of the heroes because they didn't want to hurt their friend. This is why Erik would have been a better King.

Pretty much how things usually go in comics. Peter Parker does dumb shit like this all the time, for instance. And Cap always does the "We don't kill our own" stuff
The only one on the team who would've made the choice to kill Vision with no interference is Widow and Hawkeye
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The explanation given by Strange is reasonable enough. He saw all the possible outcomes and chose the one he did for a reason.

Attempting to use the full power of time stone against Thanos would not have guaranteed a victory. We've seen villains thwart the time stone before; Kaecilius was immune and he wasn't holding 4 infinity stones at the time. On top of that, Thanos shatters Strange's mirror dimension without even flinching. Strange's magic isn't unbeatable, like some people seem to think. Neither is the time stone. We've been shown this, more than once.

Destroying the time stone doesn't guarantee a victory either. Thanos has already leveled several civilizations. He balanced Gamora's planet without any infinity stones in his possession. He almost does the same to Earth in Avengers 1, without directly wielding the stones himself. He wipes out most of Asgardian survivors using the power stone. By the time Thanos arrives on Titan, he's probably already strong enough to conquer Earth. At this point, the only reason for him to complete the gauntlet is to take care of the rest of the universe in one fell swoop. Destroying the time stone doesn't save Earth.
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Stover46 posted...

Pretty much how things usually go in comics. Peter Parker does dumb s*** like this all the time, for instance. And Cap always does the "We don't kill our own" stuff
The only one on the team who would've made the choice to kill Vision with no interference is Widow and Hawkeye

This is something that I picked up on movies when I was younger and it just irked me. In the first Pirates of the Caribbean. They went back to save one of the heroes, and like 10 of the Navy members were killed and no one brought that up. Hell kind of same thing in when people are trying to save Matt Damon.
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Polycosm posted...

The explanation given by Strange is reasonable enough. He saw all the possible outcomes and chose the one he did for a reason.

Attempting to use the full power of time stone against Thanos would not have guaranteed a victory. We've seen villains thwart the time stone before; Kaecilius was immune and he wasn't holding 4 infinity stones at the time. On top of that, Thanos shatters Strange's mirror dimension without even flinching. Strange's magic isn't unbeatable, like some people seem to think. Neither is the time stone. We've been shown this, more than once.

Destroying the time stone doesn't guarantee a victory either. Thanos has already leveled several civilizations. He balanced Gamora's planet without any infinity stones in his possession. He almost does the same to Earth in Avengers 1, without directly wielding the stones himself. He wipes out most of Asgardian survivors using the power stone. By the time Thanos arrives on Titan, he's probably already strong enough to conquer Earth. At this point, the only reason for him to complete the gauntlet is to take care of the rest of the universe in one fell swoop. Destroying the time stone doesn't save Earth.

But in the situation, he wouldn't have had to use the time stone on Thanos specifically. Only on Quill. Thanos is very powerful, but it would have been child's play for Strange to remove the gauntlet from the equation once they got it off him.

And that's the thing. The writers know this. They know that the audience knows this. That's why they put in that scene where Strange says "I saw millions of possibilities and we only win one." Once they say that, they can justify every single action from then on as "well, this must be what happens in that one possibility." They might as well have flashed a writer's note on the screen that read "No matter how odd it may seem, we promise that this is the only way it could happen because reasons."

Dragonblade01 posted...

Polycosm posted...

The explanation given by Strange is reasonable enough. He saw all the possible outcomes and chose the one he did for a reason.

Attempting to use the full power of time stone against Thanos would not have guaranteed a victory. We've seen villains thwart the time stone before; Kaecilius was immune and he wasn't holding 4 infinity stones at the time. On top of that, Thanos shatters Strange's mirror dimension without even flinching. Strange's magic isn't unbeatable, like some people seem to think. Neither is the time stone. We've been shown this, more than once.

Destroying the time stone doesn't guarantee a victory either. Thanos has already leveled several civilizations. He balanced Gamora's planet without any infinity stones in his possession. He almost does the same to Earth in Avengers 1, without directly wielding the stones himself. He wipes out most of Asgardian survivors using the power stone. By the time Thanos arrives on Titan, he's probably already strong enough to conquer Earth. At this point, the only reason for him to complete the gauntlet is to take care of the rest of the universe in one fell swoop. Destroying the time stone doesn't save Earth.

But in the situation, he wouldn't have had to use the time stone on Thanos specifically. Only on Quill. Thanos is very powerful, but it would have been child's play for Strange to remove the gauntlet from the equation once they got it off him.

And that's the thing. The writers know this. They know that the audience knows this. That's why they put in that scene where Strange says "I saw millions of possibilities and we only win one." Once they say that, they can justify every single action from then on as "well, this must be what happens in that one possibility." They might as well have flashed a writer's note on the screen that read "No matter how odd it may seem, we promise that this is the only way it could happen because reasons."

Let's suppose they pull off the gauntlet and Strange teleports it away. Can Thanos still complete the gauntlet in that scenario? Maybe not. Can Thanos still bring Earth to heel? Very possibly, yes. Thanos has already devastated entire planets without any stones in his possession. He wiped out Gamora's planet. And he had to beat all of Nova Corps to re-acquire his first stone, immediately prior to the events of Infinity War. Nova Corps may not have the x-factor of the Avengers on its side but it's a considerably more advance and well-defended civilization than humanity is.

Removing the gauntlet doesn't remove the threat against Earth.
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Polycosm posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Polycosm posted...

The explanation given by Strange is reasonable enough. He saw all the possible outcomes and chose the one he did for a reason.

Attempting to use the full power of time stone against Thanos would not have guaranteed a victory. We've seen villains thwart the time stone before; Kaecilius was immune and he wasn't holding 4 infinity stones at the time. On top of that, Thanos shatters Strange's mirror dimension without even flinching. Strange's magic isn't unbeatable, like some people seem to think. Neither is the time stone. We've been shown this, more than once.

Destroying the time stone doesn't guarantee a victory either. Thanos has already leveled several civilizations. He balanced Gamora's planet without any infinity stones in his possession. He almost does the same to Earth in Avengers 1, without directly wielding the stones himself. He wipes out most of Asgardian survivors using the power stone. By the time Thanos arrives on Titan, he's probably already strong enough to conquer Earth. At this point, the only reason for him to complete the gauntlet is to take care of the rest of the universe in one fell swoop. Destroying the time stone doesn't save Earth.

But in the situation, he wouldn't have had to use the time stone on Thanos specifically. Only on Quill. Thanos is very powerful, but it would have been child's play for Strange to remove the gauntlet from the equation once they got it off him.

And that's the thing. The writers know this. They know that the audience knows this. That's why they put in that scene where Strange says "I saw millions of possibilities and we only win one." Once they say that, they can justify every single action from then on as "well, this must be what happens in that one possibility." They might as well have flashed a writer's note on the screen that read "No matter how odd it may seem, we promise that this is the only way it could happen because reasons."

Let's suppose they pull off the gauntlet and Strange teleports it away. Can Thanos still complete the gauntlet in that scenario? Maybe not. Can Thanos still bring Earth to heel? Very possibly, yes. Thanos has already devastated entire planets without any stones in his possession. He wiped out Gamora's planet. And he had to beat all of Nova Corps to re-acquire his first stone, immediately prior to the events of Infinity War. Nova Corps may not have the x-factor of the Avengers on its side but it's a considerably more advance and well-defended civilization than humanity is.

Removing the gauntlet doesn't remove the threat against Earth.

Uhm, you forget, since the infinity stones are in the Heroe's possession, the good guys can just use them to thier advantage. They were already using two infinity stones.

And like you said Nova Corps don't have Avengers and as far as I know, they have 0 superheroes. Even Spider man can withstand Thanos blows with his face, he alone quantifies for more than the entire population of Nova Corp or Xandor together. So nevermind earth with Thor/Stormbreaker (which can withstand the power of 6 infinity stones btw), Wakanda and their Vibranium supply, Scarlet witch, Vision, Hulk (assuming he gets out), Strange and the infinity stones? Then there's also this person called Mrs Marvel.

They would fuck Thanos up. Also lets not forget Thanos had 4 henchmen by the time he invaded Xandor, Maw was dead and the army on Earth was getting routed by the time Thanos arrived.

The reality stone and power stone were both shown to be unable to be controlled by mortals so no
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Thor is not a mortal.

Power stone was never shown to be handled by the likes of Thor, who can just combine it with his weapon, like Ronin did. We are also talking about the same Thor who withstood the blast in the movie.

Thor also had no opportunity to get the power stone anyway

So no
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Re-iNcarnated posted...

Polycosm posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

But in the situation, he wouldn't have had to use the time stone on Thanos specifically. Only on Quill. Thanos is very powerful, but it would have been child's play for Strange to remove the gauntlet from the equation once they got it off him.

And that's the thing. The writers know this. They know that the audience knows this. That's why they put in that scene where Strange says "I saw millions of possibilities and we only win one." Once they say that, they can justify every single action from then on as "well, this must be what happens in that one possibility." They might as well have flashed a writer's note on the screen that read "No matter how odd it may seem, we promise that this is the only way it could happen because reasons."

Let's suppose they pull off the gauntlet and Strange teleports it away. Can Thanos still complete the gauntlet in that scenario? Maybe not. Can Thanos still bring Earth to heel? Very possibly, yes. Thanos has already devastated entire planets without any stones in his possession. He wiped out Gamora's planet. And he had to beat all of Nova Corps to re-acquire his first stone, immediately prior to the events of Infinity War. Nova Corps may not have the x-factor of the Avengers on its side but it's a considerably more advance and well-defended civilization than humanity is.

Removing the gauntlet doesn't remove the threat against Earth.

Uhm, you forget, since the infinity stones are in the Heroe's possession, the good guys can just use them to thier advantage. They were already using two infinity stones.

And like you said Nova Corps don't have Avengers and as far as I know, they have 0 superheroes. Even Spider man can withstand Thanos blows with his face, he alone quantifies for more than the entire population of Nova Corp or Xandor together. So nevermind earth with Thor/Stormbreaker (which can withstand the power of 6 infinity stones btw), Wakanda and their Vibranium supply, Scarlet witch, Vision, Hulk (assuming he gets out), Strange and the infinity stones? Then there's also this person called Mrs Marvel.

They would fuck Thanos up.

I'm not convinced that the heroes can effectively use the other stones to their advantage. We've seen the power stone vaporize people who tried to pick it up in GotG. Quill could barely even touch it for a few seconds back when he was half-Celestial. Vision is basically the mind stone in living form and he gets his ass handed to him throughout the film. Loki (and others) could only use the space stone when it was nested inside the tesseract, further nested inside a complicated piece of technology/machinery.

I doubt they can just put on the gauntlet, either... similar to how most people couldn't pick up Thor's hammer, let alone use its power.

Honestly I think you're trying really hard to see a plot hole here. It's much easier to just accept the explanation given by the movie and go along for the ride.
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You're assuming they succeed in removing the gauntlet if Strange stops Starlord from interfering. I question that assumption. I think Thanos shakes off Mantis just before the gauntlet comes off regardless. I think Strange knew that all plans for neutralizing or removing the gauntlet were doomed to failure.

I expect we'll find out for sure in the sequel.

Strange already used the stone to win...
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The Deadpool posted...

Strange already used the stone to win...

Yeah, that's definitely a possibility.

Strange is the Deus Ex Machina here, guys.

He said that what he did was the "only way". He acted in exactly the way he foresaw them winning. I will bet my account that Strange did some fuckery in the future to save the day.
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Polycosm posted...

I'm not convinced that the heroes can effectively use the other stones to their advantage. We've seen the power stone vaporize people who tried to pick it up in GotG. Quill could barely even touch it for a few seconds back when he was half-Celestial. Vision is basically the mind stone in living form and he gets his ass handed to him throughout the film. Loki (and others) could only use the space stone when it was nested inside the tesseract, further nested inside a complicated piece of technology/machinery.

I doubt they can just put on the gauntlet, either... similar to how most people couldn't pick up Thor's hammer, let alone use its power.

Honestly I think you're trying really hard to see a plot hole here. It's much easier to just accept the explanation given by the movie and go along for the ride.

People, not god like beings such as Thor, I am not saying everyone should get a turn to try out the new toy. Thor can imbune the stone with stormbreaker, which is as powerful as the entire Infinity gauntlet completed.

I don't know what's the deal with Vision, but apparently he's strong and he serves as a vassal for the mind stone, so it's better than nothing.

Space stone was actually used as the Bifrost from Heimdall, so again, Thor is an Asgardian god and the stone wouldn't be useless in his possession. Not to mention Shuri is apparently a genius, so I find it hard to beleive a combined effort from Thor and Shuri, maybe even Vision couldn't put the space stone to good use.

The gauntlet however, i don't know. Maybe Thor can do it or Captain America, who can miraculously do whatever he feels like these days. But individually, the stones do serves a purpose.

Again all of this focuses the point of Thanos wouldn't be able to invade Earth, he had already lost his army and henchmens by the time he arrived on earth. And you're claiming he would further win against an army with god like beings, along with possible Infinity stone usage?

Whereas I think you're content with what you've seen or know, after all you're the one who has proposed the hypothetical scenario of what happens if they disarmed Thanos from his gauntlet and now you're expecting me to view things your way.

tiornys posted...

The Deadpool posted...

Strange already used the stone to win...

Yeah, that's definitely a possibility.

For sure, could be. He may have already planted a seed in the past. Or he might have hexed the stone before handing it over. There are a lot of ways the next Avengers film could play out.

Tricking Thanos into thinking he's won might be part of Strange's plan. Maybe that's why Strange let the other heroes put up a fight. Thanos won't think to use the time stone to check the attack coming at him from the past.
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Polycosm posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

Polycosm posted...

The explanation given by Strange is reasonable enough. He saw all the possible outcomes and chose the one he did for a reason.

Attempting to use the full power of time stone against Thanos would not have guaranteed a victory. We've seen villains thwart the time stone before; Kaecilius was immune and he wasn't holding 4 infinity stones at the time. On top of that, Thanos shatters Strange's mirror dimension without even flinching. Strange's magic isn't unbeatable, like some people seem to think. Neither is the time stone. We've been shown this, more than once.

Destroying the time stone doesn't guarantee a victory either. Thanos has already leveled several civilizations. He balanced Gamora's planet without any infinity stones in his possession. He almost does the same to Earth in Avengers 1, without directly wielding the stones himself. He wipes out most of Asgardian survivors using the power stone. By the time Thanos arrives on Titan, he's probably already strong enough to conquer Earth. At this point, the only reason for him to complete the gauntlet is to take care of the rest of the universe in one fell swoop. Destroying the time stone doesn't save Earth.

But in the situation, he wouldn't have had to use the time stone on Thanos specifically. Only on Quill. Thanos is very powerful, but it would have been child's play for Strange to remove the gauntlet from the equation once they got it off him.

And that's the thing. The writers know this. They know that the audience knows this. That's why they put in that scene where Strange says "I saw millions of possibilities and we only win one." Once they say that, they can justify every single action from then on as "well, this must be what happens in that one possibility." They might as well have flashed a writer's note on the screen that read "No matter how odd it may seem, we promise that this is the only way it could happen because reasons."

Let's suppose they pull off the gauntlet and Strange teleports it away. Can Thanos still complete the gauntlet in that scenario? Maybe not. Can Thanos still bring Earth to heel? Very possibly, yes. Thanos has already devastated entire planets without any stones in his possession. He wiped out Gamora's planet. And he had to beat all of Nova Corps to re-acquire his first stone, immediately prior to the events of Infinity War. Nova Corps may not have the x-factor of the Avengers on its side but it's a considerably more advance and well-defended civilization than humanity is.

Removing the gauntlet doesn't remove the threat against Earth.

And? That doesn't change anything about Strange being used for pure narrative convenience.

Dragonblade01 posted...

And? That doesn't change anything about Strange being used for pure narrative convenience.

I mean, just using the time stone to reverse any mistakes would also be narrative convenience.

Earth had two infinity stones and Thanos was able to get both. in one day. If they took the gauntlet, no one would be able to use it, so all they could do would be to hide it.

The Mind stone was with one of the most powerful superheroes and was protected by the most advanced society on the planet, and Thanos still got it. How long would it take before Thanos just went and took the gauntlet back?
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Mal_Fet posted...

Dragonblade01 posted...

And? That doesn't change anything about Strange being used for pure narrative convenience.

I mean, just using the time stone to reverse any mistakes would also be narrative convenience.

Earth had two infinity stones and Thanos was able to get both. in one day. If they took the gauntlet, no one would be able to use it, so all they could do would be to hide it.

The Mind stone was with one of the most powerful superheroes and was protected by the most advanced society on the planet, and Thanos still got it. How long would it take before Thanos just went and took the gauntlet back?

To be fair, Thanos needed the Gauntlet to take the Mind Gem. Without it he would have failed.

He might have still killed a ton of people though.
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I have to agree with the idea that it's crappy to have Thanos stopped by Quill fucking up
Yeah it's in character but I'm talking out-of-universe, it was a lazy way to write it

Not a big deal, but it's never fun to watch and could have been handled better
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