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FZeroMaster
04/28/18 7:37:47 AM
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Infinity War was fantastic, so brilliant. It really set the bar high.
But I am worried Captain Marvel will come and ruin all that.

I mean, there is Brie Larson, who is a borderline insane SJW on twitter.
Seriously, she seems a bit crazy.

Then there was comments that Captain Marvel is the most powerful character, and if she comes in and wrecks Thanos, trying to to promote some sort of feminist agenda, that would be a disaster.

Honestly, if Brie Larson actually had Captain Marvels powers, she would be more of a villain than Thanos was in IW
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hollow_shrine
04/28/18 7:46:36 AM
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You know, movies have script writers and directors. And the actors they hire have comparatively little control over the direction of the stories they tell. So on it's face this hand wringing makes no sense. And you know that. What did you really want to say?
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FZeroMaster
04/28/18 9:20:55 AM
#3:


hollow_shrine posted...
You know, movies have script writers and directors. And the actors they hire have comparatively little control over the direction of the stories they tell. So on it's face this hand wringing makes no sense. And you know that. What did you really want to say?

You dont understand, look at this twitter.

https://twitter.com/brielarson?lang=en
Its scary.
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AlecSkorpio
04/28/18 9:23:33 AM
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I'm not gonna lie, I kind of rolled my eyes at the after credit sequence.

It's not even like SJW shit or whatever, it's just that Captain Marvel coming in so late and being the big hero would just feel wrong after all this build up.

But, I'm guessing the after credit sequence was shot that way more just to hype up the next film than to build up she's going to be the big hero at the end.
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Gheb
04/28/18 9:33:21 AM
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The Marvels are like the arch enemies of Thanos. Of course one will be instrumental in taking him down.
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CyricZ
04/28/18 9:37:12 AM
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FZeroMaster posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
You know, movies have script writers and directors. And the actors they hire have comparatively little control over the direction of the stories they tell. So on it's face this hand wringing makes no sense. And you know that. What did you really want to say?

You dont understand, look at this twitter.

https://twitter.com/brielarson?lang=en
Its scary.

It... looks like the Twitter feed of any of dozens of people involved in entertainment and activism.
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Clutch
04/28/18 9:37:32 AM
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Gheb posted...
The Marvels are like the arch enemies of Thanos. Of course one will be instrumental in taking him down.


Thats a weird way to spell Adam Warlock.
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Youngster_Joey_
04/28/18 9:38:20 AM
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Gheb posted...
The Marvels are like the arch enemies of Thanos. Of course one will be instrumental in taking him down.


I mean...not really, but okay.
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Gheb
04/28/18 9:41:07 AM
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Clutch posted...
Gheb posted...
The Marvels are like the arch enemies of Thanos. Of course one will be instrumental in taking him down.


Thats a weird way to spell Adam Warlock.

I don't even know how to describe that relationship. They work together as much as they fight.
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EternalDivide
04/28/18 9:41:09 AM
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As much as I loved IW. I don't think IW2 is going to bring a satisfying ending. There's too many ways to screw it up in trying to explain how everyone comes back and how Thanos is suddenly vulnerable.
But especially if this new character in Captain Marvel, that we're only going to know for all of 2 months from when her movie comes out to when IW2 comes out ends up being the one to bring him down.
That just feels extremely cheap. A complete offense to everything that's got us to this point. Like a deus ex machina. And usually I wouldn't add my voice into the feminism angle conversation about it but it sure does feel like it. Because it isn't going to have been earned and because look at the other end of the Dinsey spectrum in all the rah-rah women forever stuff happening with Star Wars.
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Youngster_Joey_
04/28/18 9:43:37 AM
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I mean, the fact is that Marvel has become so big that people are just going to cheer no matter what happens.

At my theater, everyone went apeshit at the Captain Marvel logo, but then immediately started asking "so who was Fury calling?"

And like, at this point they've kind of wrote themselves into a corner. I doubt they're going to have Thanos literally lose because he decides to become a god as that wouldn't be very cinematic, so they need someone to come in and be all punchy with him.
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hollow_shrine
04/28/18 9:43:41 AM
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FZeroMaster posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
You know, movies have script writers and directors. And the actors they hire have comparatively little control over the direction of the stories they tell. So on it's face this hand wringing makes no sense. And you know that. What did you really want to say?

You dont understand, look at this twitter.

https://twitter.com/brielarson?lang=en
Its scary.

You don't understand. The movie isn't written by the actors and actresses twitter feeds. Do you know who the writers and directors of this film are? What's happening in their twitter feeds?

If you're going to pre-emptively get mad about a movie that's not coming out for year, let's make sure we're mad at the right people.
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Clutch
04/28/18 9:54:53 AM
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EternalDivide posted...
As much as I loved IW. I don't think IW2 is going to bring a satisfying ending. There's too many ways to screw it up in trying to explain how everyone comes back and how Thanos is suddenly vulnerable.


Thanos winning is always more satisfying than Thanos losing.
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FZeroMaster
04/28/18 10:07:39 AM
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I was worried that Black Panther was going to be a negative influence too, but luckily it was put in its place and "Wakanda Forever" didn't save the day.
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EternalDivide
04/28/18 10:11:51 AM
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Nah I wasn't worried about Wakanda over saturation. Marvel never thought it was going to be as big a thing as it was and by then this and IW2 were already filmed. And you can tell that's what they thought by just how little screen time BP has.
And obvious he'll have even less in IW2. General lady I like. Even that other warlord guy. They were both more interesting characters than BP anyway. Hell, everyone was more interesting than BP in his movie.
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Steelix500
04/28/18 10:12:21 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
I mean, the fact is that Marvel has become so big that people are just going to cheer no matter what happens.

At my theater, everyone went apeshit at the Captain Marvel logo, but then immediately started asking "so who was Fury calling?"

And like, at this point they've kind of wrote themselves into a corner. I doubt they're going to have Thanos literally lose because he decides to become a god as that wouldn't be very cinematic, so they need someone to come in and be all punchy with him.

LMAO same thing here. A bunch of dudes up front started loosing their minds then someone shouted "who is that?"
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Youngster_Joey_
04/28/18 10:13:46 AM
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Clutch posted...
Thanos winning is always more satisfying than Thanos losing.


I legit thought when he was talking with kid Gamora in the Soul world or whatever, that the big twist was going to be that he died with half the universe as an inversion on him losing the Gauntlet in the comic by wishing himself to be a god, and that maybe part 2 would be everyone having to re-find the stones to fix things and they'd call it the Infinity Crusade or something.

But then it flashed back, and Thanos was still alive and now it's probably just gonna be another fight in the next movie and it's going to be super unsatisfying.
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hollow_shrine
04/28/18 10:16:57 AM
#18:


Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Clutch posted...
Thanos winning is always more satisfying than Thanos losing.


I legit thought when he was talking with kid Gamora in the Soul world or whatever, that the big twist was going to be that he died with half the universe as an inversion on him losing the Gauntlet in the comic by wishing himself to be a god, and that maybe part 2 would be everyone having to re-find the stones to fix things and they'd call it the Infinity Crusade or something.

But then it flashed back, and Thanos was still alive and now it's probably just gonna be another fight in the next movie and it's going to be super unsatisfying.

If it's anything like the book, he'll lose an ideological battle with Adam and someone will use his momentary distraction to steal the gauntlet and fix the universe.

Personally, I'd kind of like the see the Phoenix consume the universe in cosmic flames and rebirth a new world like the old one, but with a handful of notable differences.
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Youngster_Joey_
04/28/18 10:18:08 AM
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hollow_shrine posted...
If it's anything like the book, he'll lose an ideological battle with Adam and someone will use his momentary distraction to steal the gauntlet and fix the universe.


They already confirmed Adam isn't showing up in Thanos MCU story so I really don't have high hopes it won't be anything more than a punch fest.
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XxKrazyChaosxX
04/28/18 10:22:25 AM
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My friends and I joked that when Fury "pages" for Captain Marvel, she is fading away too anyways.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
04/28/18 10:33:07 AM
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hollow_shrine posted...

If it's anything like the book, he'll lose an ideological battle with Adam and someone will use his momentary distraction to steal the gauntlet and fix the universe


Which book? I don't remember it ending that way.

I remember the ending being that Thanos wishes him to become the embodiment of Eternity(?) and it caused him to be ethereal, which caused him to not be able to hold the Gauntlet. Then Nebula grabbed it and wished everything back to normal.
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dib153
04/28/18 10:37:29 AM
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I'm not reading the op, I'm not reading the following responses...

How FUCKING DARE YOU put that reveal in the goddamn motherfucking TITLE

I genuinely hope your day is shit

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hollow_shrine
04/28/18 10:39:09 AM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
hollow_shrine posted...

If it's anything like the book, he'll lose an ideological battle with Adam and someone will use his momentary distraction to steal the gauntlet and fix the universe


Which book? I don't remember it ending that way.

I remember the ending being that Thanos wishes him to become the embodiment of Eternity(?) and it caused him to be ethereal, which caused him to not be able to hold the Gauntlet. Then Nebula grabbed it and wished everything back to normal.

You're right. That's the ending I'm thinking of. But I also thought he was tricked into making that wish.
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FZeroMaster
04/28/18 10:42:03 AM
#25:


dib153 posted...
I'm not reading the op, I'm not reading the following responses...

How FUCKING DARE YOU put that reveal in the goddamn motherfucking TITLE

I genuinely hope your day is shit

iQbSDhp

lol, its not a spoiler at all, what the hell are you talking about.
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AlecSkorpio
04/28/18 10:43:54 AM
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Loki flat out told Thanos he'll never be a God. Guarantee Cap or Tony repeat this line at some point, and then you're going to get typical Thanos beating himself with the wish to be a God.
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dib153
04/28/18 10:44:55 AM
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I've seen no press concerning captain marvels inclusion what-so-ever, if its not a spoiler then its info youd have to deliberately spoil yourself.

Actress hasn't even been on a talk show, and I'm pretty sure Kimmel ran a multi-show checklist and got them all

So yeah, fucking spoilies broh
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D-Lo_BrownTown
04/28/18 10:44:58 AM
#28:


FZeroMaster posted...

lol, its not a spoiler at all, what the hell are you talking about.


Probably a casual who has no fucking clue who Captain Marvel is or that she's getting a movie after Ant Man and The Wasp and thus assumes this means she is in Infinity War.
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FZeroMaster
04/28/18 10:47:42 AM
#29:


dib153 posted...
I've seen no press concerning captain marvels inclusion what-so-ever, if its not a spoiler then its info youd have to deliberately spoil yourself.

Actress hasn't even been on a talk show, and I'm pretty sure Kimmel ran a multi-show checklist and got them all

So yeah, fucking spoilies broh

It has not once been said in this topic if Captain Marvel is or is not in Infinity War.
You are literally making things up in your head.
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Mecha Sonic
04/28/18 10:56:21 AM
#30:


are shut-in weirdos on this website still fucking whining about feminists and social justice warriors like they haven't come out of their parents basement once since 2014, holy shit stop holding your dicks and just shoot your fucking load already you shitty, alt right, horrible excuses for human beings
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dib153
04/28/18 10:57:44 AM
#31:


FZeroMaster posted...
dib153 posted...
I've seen no press concerning captain marvels inclusion what-so-ever, if its not a spoiler then its info youd have to deliberately spoil yourself.

Actress hasn't even been on a talk show, and I'm pretty sure Kimmel ran a multi-show checklist and got them all

So yeah, fucking spoilies broh

It has not once been said in this topic if Captain Marvel is or is not in Infinity War.
You are literally making things up in your head.


Title literally says "infinity war spoilers"

If you dont see how that can be misconstrued then theres no redeeming you

That said, after the success of doctor strange I don't see why a blatant super power MC can't see success in the mcu
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FZeroMaster
04/28/18 11:12:20 AM
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Mecha Sonic posted...
are shut-in weirdos on this website still fucking whining about feminists and social justice warriors like they haven't come out of their parents basement once since 2014, holy shit stop holding your dicks and just shoot your fucking load already you shitty, alt right, horrible excuses for human beings

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Skye Reynolds
04/28/18 11:29:12 AM
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FZeroMaster posted...
hollow_shrine posted...
You know, movies have script writers and directors. And the actors they hire have comparatively little control over the direction of the stories they tell. So on it's face this hand wringing makes no sense. And you know that. What did you really want to say?

You dont understand, look at this twitter.

https://twitter.com/brielarson?lang=en
Its scary.


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jborgan
04/28/18 11:33:44 AM
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Well the actress is a feminist so obviously she's a crazy SJW and will turn the movie into SJW propaganda where the righteous and powerful woman defeats the weak and evil man because she has absolute control over how the character and movie will be written.

Your fears are not unfounded at all.
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closetkpopfan
04/28/18 11:37:10 AM
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Captain Marvel isn't going to come in and body Thanos, she'll play a role obviously, but she's not going to come in and just defeat him lol. It's obviously going to be mostly Tony/Cap with one or both sacrificing themselves to defeat him.
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Squall28
04/28/18 11:41:55 AM
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Remember Justice League guys? She's going to be like Superman there ;)
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FZeroMaster
04/28/18 11:48:34 AM
#37:


Squall28 posted...
Remember Justice League guys? She's going to be like Superman there ;)

That's what I am worried about, bit on an even worse scale.
It's fine that they are introducing a powerhouse to challenge Thanos, and it doesn't matter if they are male or female, but if they overplay it and have her do everything, literally be a Mary Sue, it will be a horrible ending to the MCU.
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Holy_Cloud105
04/28/18 11:55:48 AM
#38:


You don't have to worry about Brie Larson ruining everything. You have to worry about Marvel themselves ruining everything. They love Captain Marvel and try to force her into everything and be the main superhero but her comics keep failing and Marvel blames fans for being misogynists for the reason. She's a completely unlikable character.
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Skye Reynolds
04/28/18 12:01:25 PM
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Even if she was a likable character, I'm inclined to dislike her on account of the name. It belongs to a golden age superhero, not her.

I can understand them not wanting to call her Miss Marvel, but they should've called her something other than Captain. It'd be like if there was a lapse in the trademark on Wonder Woman's name and someone snatched up that title. It's not getting a leg up on the competition. It's just disrespecting one of the icons of the industry.
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