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Mario_VS_DK
05/02/18 12:48:45 AM
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Confirm or deny. - Results (11 votes)
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18.18% (2 votes)
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81.82% (9 votes)
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Bulbasaur, a dinasaur with a plant bulb on its back.
Ivysaur, a dinasaur who has more plants on it back, but surprisingly no ivy.
Venusaur, a dinasaur with a bigger plant on its back, but is surprisingly not a Venus flytrap.
Squirtle, a turtle who squirts water.
Wartortle, a war turtle.
Blastoise, a tortoise who blasts things with water.
Charmander, a chard salamander that looks like a fire breathing dragon.
Charmeleon, a chard chameleon that looks like a fire breathing dragon.
Charizard, a chard lizard that looks like a fire breathing dragon.

And that's just the starter Pokemon.
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DevilSummoner1
05/02/18 12:51:07 AM
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Muk: a blob of shit
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Muffinz0rz
05/02/18 12:51:49 AM
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Seel: A seal
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Mead
05/02/18 12:52:39 AM
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DevilSummoner1 posted...
Muk: a blob of shit


Ditto: a blob of different shit
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Mario_VS_DK
05/02/18 12:58:22 AM
#5:


People who disagree should at least say which generation is less original unless you're just saying you disagree for nostalgia reasons.
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EclairReturns
05/02/18 12:58:56 AM
#6:


Surely, you mean that the first generation Pokemon names are the most unoriginal, do you not?

Mario_VS_DK posted...
chard


Surely, you mean "charred".
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Mario_VS_DK
05/02/18 12:59:53 AM
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EclairReturns posted...
Surely, you mean that the first generation Pokemon names are the most unoriginal, do you not?


No, the Pokemon are pretty unoriginal too.

Surely, you mean "charred".


I did, but I'm stupid and haven't seen or used the word in several years.
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LinkPizza
05/02/18 1:01:11 AM
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Are we just doing starters or all of a generation?
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SinisterSlay
05/02/18 1:01:50 AM
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Every pokemon is supposed to be based on a real life animal or fantasy animal. Meant to be recognizable. So of course they aren't original.
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Mario_VS_DK
05/02/18 1:02:08 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Are we just doing starters or all of a generation


All of a generation.

SinisterSlay posted...
Every pokemon is supposed to be based on a real life animal or fantasy animal. Meant to be recognizable. So of course they aren't original.


Is that a confirm?
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LinkPizza
05/02/18 1:20:31 AM
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Mario_VS_DK posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Are we just doing starters or all of a generation


All of a generation.

SinisterSlay posted...
Every pokemon is supposed to be based on a real life animal or fantasy animal. Meant to be recognizable. So of course they aren't original.


Is that a confirm?

Well, it might be. Or a deny. They said none of them are suppose to be original. But they didn't say which generation is more unoriginal. I can't remember which generation it was, but it felt like they were running out of stuff for one of them...
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Golden Road
05/02/18 1:38:42 AM
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Deny. The first generation was the most original, out of necessity. The first generation had to start from scratch, while every later generation had a "base" of sorts to work from.
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Syntheticon
05/02/18 1:43:51 AM
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They were simpler, sure but were they were also the first ones they came up with and weren't weird deformed things with ridiculous names that sound like a medical condition or Icelandic volcano.
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Mario_VS_DK
05/02/18 8:01:17 AM
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Golden Road posted...
Deny. The first generation was the most original, out of necessity. The first generation had to start from scratch, while every later generation had a "base" of sorts to work from.


What kind of base? I'm not talking about the games, I'm talking about the Pokemon themselves.
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Xfma100
05/02/18 8:20:10 AM
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Mario_VS_DK posted...
Golden Road posted...
Deny. The first generation was the most original, out of necessity. The first generation had to start from scratch, while every later generation had a "base" of sorts to work from.


What kind of base? I'm not talking about the games, I'm talking about the Pokemon themselves.


Every generation after Gen 1 has Pokemon that are just new gen versions of Gen 1 Pokemon.

For example:

Hoothoot, Taillow, Starly, Pidove, Fletchling, and Pikipek are all just new versions of Pidgey.

Senret, Zigzagoon, Bidoof, Patrat, Bunnelby, and Yungoos are newer versions of Rattata.

Plusle, Minun, Pachirusu, Emolga, Dedenne, and Togedemaru are newer versions of Pikachu.

And each gen connects to a previous gen by new evolutions or baby forms.
Speaking of which, Gen 1 can't be the most unoriginal when Gen 5 just copied almost every single Gen 1 pokemon...
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Mead
05/02/18 8:23:53 AM
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The worst pokemon is Remoraid design wise to me

Boring fish which the game already had, looks somewhat realistic, and it evolves into a dumb red cartoon octopus
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Muffinz0rz
05/02/18 10:47:19 AM
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Mead posted...
a dumb red cartoon octopus

Don't you ever disrespect Octillery like that again
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05/02/18 11:27:09 AM
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Nade Duck
05/02/18 12:06:19 PM
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unoriginal, nah. simplistic, probably.
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Metalsonic66
05/02/18 12:17:04 PM
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Gen 1 and 2 had the best designs. Some were really simple, though, but I prefer simple over shirty.
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JOExHIGASHI
05/02/18 12:25:39 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Seel: A seal


Dewong: a dugong

Voltorb is ball
Electrode is also a ball

Then there are all those evolutions that are just the same thing but with more heads.

Magneton
Dotrio
dugtrio
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LinkPizza
05/02/18 12:30:34 PM
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Sun and moon just painted a bunch, though...
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Golden Road
05/02/18 12:47:44 PM
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Mario_VS_DK posted...
Golden Road posted...
Deny. The first generation was the most original, out of necessity. The first generation had to start from scratch, while every later generation had a "base" of sorts to work from.

What kind of base? I'm not talking about the games, I'm talking about the Pokemon themselves.

So am I. The first game had to design all the Pokmon from scratch. Every subsequent generation had previous generations to use as a starting point. Not even necessarily copying traits, but just following the basic "template" for Pokmon that was already set by the first 150.
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Muffinz0rz
05/02/18 1:01:31 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Seel: A seal


Dewong: a dugong

Voltorb is ball
Electrode is also a ball

Then there are all those evolutions that are just the same thing but with more heads.

Magneton
Dotrio
dugtrio

Weezing
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GanglyKhan
05/02/18 1:15:37 PM
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That goes to Gen IV just because they made a lot of new evolutions off of old mons. Not a bad choice and I liked a lot of them, but looking at it objectively, that does lack the most creativity since they already had a base platform to go off of. Anything else is arguably a weaker point.
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Zeus
05/02/18 1:23:17 PM
#26:


Hard deny. Gen 2's was probably the worst. One of its Pokemon was a pine cone with eyes. And its name? Pineco -_- That's literally just the words pine cone together with the "ne" chopped off.

And, in general, you're claiming that gen 1's were the least creative, you're just flat-out trolling (or only played gen 1). Gen 5 had that fucking awful monkey trio.

Mario_VS_DK posted...
Bulbasaur, a dinasaur with a plant bulb on its back.
Ivysaur, a dinasaur who has more plants on it back, but surprisingly no ivy.
Venusaur, a dinasaur with a bigger plant on its back, but is surprisingly not a Venus flytrap.
Squirtle, a turtle who squirts water.
Wartortle, a war turtle.
Blastoise, a tortoise who blasts things with water.
Charmander, a chard salamander that looks like a fire breathing dragon.
Charmeleon, a chard chameleon that looks like a fire breathing dragon.
Charizard, a chard lizard that looks like a fire breathing dragon.


Literally every generation's starters are based on real world or fictional animals. And it's worse for later gens because they re-do some of the animals. Hell, the Chikorita family was ANOTHER grass dino and all that had was a leaf on its head (and a leaf necklace).

Mead posted...
The worst pokemon is Remoraid design wise to me

Boring fish which the game already had, looks somewhat realistic, and it evolves into a dumb red cartoon octopus


While remoraid looks stupid (I like Octillery, although he's junk), at least he's not a pine cone with eyes that evolves into a ball >_> Or fucking Dunsparce, one of the all-time most useless Pokemon.

Golden Road posted...
So am I. The first game had to design all the Pokmon from scratch. Every subsequent generation had previous generations to use as a starting point. Not even necessarily copying traits, but just following the basic "template" for Pokmon that was already set by the first 150.


Also this so hard.

EDIT: Went to tag Mario as "Gen1 hater" and noticed he has a Typhlosion as his avatar. Sudden this nonsense makes sense. Bro has no taste. NO TASTE!
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GanglyKhan
05/02/18 1:26:22 PM
#27:


Zeus posted...
EDIT: Went to tag Mario as "Gen1 hater" and noticed he has a Typhlosion as his avatar. Sudden this nonsense makes sense. Bro has no taste. NO TASTE!

Cut this behavior out, it's what drags the board down.
Edit: I don't want to be entirely negative so I will say that I agree with what you had to say about the starters. I like how the Fire starters are based on the zodiac so it mixes up the variety, but then they tack on the same typing for like a little under half of them lmao
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Zeus
05/02/18 1:31:29 PM
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GanglyKhan posted...
Zeus posted...
EDIT: Went to tag Mario as "Gen1 hater" and noticed he has a Typhlosion as his avatar. Sudden this nonsense makes sense. Bro has no taste. NO TASTE!

Cut this behavior out, it's what drags the board down.


What drags this board down is people propping up Gen2. Sure, it had TTar and it introduced Dark types (my second-favorite), but it was a kinda lousy gen that heavily rehashed and relied on gen1. It was probably the laziest generation.
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Nade Duck
05/02/18 1:32:24 PM
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dunsparce is fucking awesome, gtfo.
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Krazy_Kirby
05/02/18 1:39:51 PM
#30:


Mario_VS_DK posted...
People who disagree should at least say which generation is less original unless you're just saying you disagree for nostalgia reasons.


ahh, the old "you only like something old because of nostalgia". that's a shit arguement
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Muffinz0rz
05/02/18 1:42:03 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
dunsparce is fucking awesome, gtfo.

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Zeus
05/02/18 1:45:25 PM
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GanglyKhan posted...
Edit: I don't want to be entirely negative so I will say that I agree with what you had to say about the starters. I like how the Fire starters are based on the zodiac so it mixes up the variety, but then they tack on the same typing for like a little under half of them lmao


How does Typhlosion fit into the Zodiac? Or Incineroar? Which Zodiac are you even talking about? Oo

Nade Duck posted...
dunsparce is fucking awesome, gtfo.


What do you find appealing? Its dildo-esque shape? Its weird little wings? The fact that, even after fairy types were intro'd, it's still somehow a normal Pokemon? Or that it's maintained its uselessness all these years?
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trodi_911
05/02/18 1:51:56 PM
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Xfma100 posted...
Speaking of which, Gen 1 can't be the most unoriginal when Gen 5 just copied almost every single Gen 1 pokemon...

As much as I love gen 5, it isn't too far from the truth.
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GanglyKhan
05/02/18 2:16:44 PM
#34:


Zeus posted...

How does Typhlosion fit into the Zodiac? Or Incineroar? Which Zodiac are you even talking about? Oo

The Chinese Zodiac. Typhlosion is the rat and Incineroar is the tiger.
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LinkPizza
05/02/18 2:24:04 PM
#35:


Have we talked about the number of NEW Pokmon in each generation. I think that can fit into this a little. It has doesn't have much to do with originality by itself. But if they made less Pokmon, and a good portion were not original, it could be hat generation. For example, gen 2 only added like 100 or 101 Pokmon despite having over 250, IIRC...
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Metalsonic66
05/02/18 5:11:22 PM
#36:


Metalsonic66 posted...
shirty

Damn you, Autocorrect!
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TestedTwice
05/02/18 5:27:49 PM
#37:


Zeus posted...
GanglyKhan posted...
Zeus posted...
EDIT: Went to tag Mario as "Gen1 hater" and noticed he has a Typhlosion as his avatar. Sudden this nonsense makes sense. Bro has no taste. NO TASTE!

Cut this behavior out, it's what drags the board down.


What drags this board down is people propping up Gen2. Sure, it had TTar and it introduced Dark types (my second-favorite), but it was a kinda lousy gen that heavily rehashed and relied on gen1. It was probably the laziest generation.

Don't forget about Sudowoodo. Just a tree made of rock. LAME.
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LinkPizza
05/02/18 5:28:42 PM
#38:


TestedTwice posted...
Zeus posted...
GanglyKhan posted...
Zeus posted...
EDIT: Went to tag Mario as "Gen1 hater" and noticed he has a Typhlosion as his avatar. Sudden this nonsense makes sense. Bro has no taste. NO TASTE!

Cut this behavior out, it's what drags the board down.


What drags this board down is people propping up Gen2. Sure, it had TTar and it introduced Dark types (my second-favorite), but it was a kinda lousy gen that heavily rehashed and relied on gen1. It was probably the laziest generation.

Don't forget about Sudowoodo. Just a tree made of rock. LAME.

Idk why, but I always loved Sudowoodo...
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Zeus
05/02/18 5:29:17 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
But if they made less Pokmon,




LinkPizza posted...
For example, gen 2 only added like 100 or 101 Pokmon despite having over 250, IIRC...

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And yet that was the generation that added Pineco, the pine cone Pokemon >_>
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Ogurisama
05/02/18 5:30:47 PM
#40:


They have pretty basic designs comparee to later gens that is for sure

Even gen 2 were pretty basic
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LinkPizza
05/02/18 5:33:16 PM
#41:


Zeus posted...
LinkPizza posted...
But if they made less Pokmon,




LinkPizza posted...
For example, gen 2 only added like 100 or 101 Pokmon despite having over 250, IIRC...

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And yet that was the generation that added Pineco, the pine cone Pokemon >_>

You understood, so what's he big deal? Also, I'm just saying it seems like some generations just took a bunch of older Pokmon, and added a couple new ones. They may have a lot of Pokmon, but a good number of them are from other generations...
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Zeus
05/02/18 5:52:57 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Also, I'm just saying it seems like some generations just took a bunch of older Pokmon, and added a couple new ones. They may have a lot of Pokmon, but a good number of them are from other generations...


I thought you were arguing that fewer Pokemon meant more creativity?
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