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P4wn4g3
05/04/18 5:57:53 PM
#354:


shockthemonkey posted...
...who ever had their achievements denied because theyre white?

Affirmative Action says hi.
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Funbazooka
05/04/18 6:05:10 PM
#356:


Affirmative action is literally called positive discrimination in the UK.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/positive_discrimination

British

(in the context of the allocation of resources or employment) the practice or policy of favouring individuals belonging to groups known to have been discriminated against previously.

Favor AKA preference... for minorities over whites.
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ledbowman
05/04/18 6:09:03 PM
#357:


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DarkProto05
05/04/18 6:15:11 PM
#358:


The Admiral posted...
First off, kudos to these girls. I love seeing students accomplish innovations like this, and I'm really proud of them. I hope they have a bright future ahead.

Now, here is what I see as part of the problem. These girls are the ones who introduced their race and gender into the mix by mentioning it in this tweet initially:
https://twitter.com/Mmmikaylaaa__/status/988555577386262528/photo/1

I don't really see why they deserve any special acknowledgment for that, since their accomplishment stands on itself. But once you open the door to "vote for us because we're black and female," you are opening the door to people voting against them for the same reason. There was no reason to ever bring identity politics into this in the first place.

None of this excuses the idiots at 4chan in any form, BTW.

You have some fine points, but the people who vote for them for their race and gender will only vote once and will not try to start a massive witch hunt that will dramatically change results. If the losers at 4chan are butthurt they are free to vote for the white males. Nothing wrong here.

Now, they are trying to rally thousands of people and hack the voting system which is cheating and will drastically favor the competition. All because of bigotry. The supporters of these girls aren't trying to dupe the system.
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ImInTHIS
05/04/18 6:28:44 PM
#359:


Blacks try to do something good, positive, and influential and another race tries to stop them? Color me surprised.
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CommieCatGirl
05/04/18 6:28:47 PM
#360:


Have we already given the black goddess her own planetoid and space station in order to combat the racisms?
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prettyprincess
05/04/18 7:02:14 PM
#361:


its not inappropriate to celebrate the things that make you unique
it is inappropriate to disparage people for their otherness
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Roshon
05/04/18 7:15:42 PM
#362:


I actually voted for those talented, intelligent girls like a week or so ago. Sad that racists had to ruin the competition. Glad NASA took action.
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ModLogic
05/04/18 7:18:26 PM
#363:


Forgettable posted...
ledbowman posted...
The Admiral posted...
None of this excuses the idiots at 4chan in any form, BTW.

Then shut the fuck up

He makes a valid point though. Why bring race and gender into a thing that's not about race and gender?

because they are racist
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Funbazooka
05/04/18 8:33:47 PM
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Conflict posted...
Funbazooka posted...
It's a completely valid interpretation.

He denies that a white man's achievements career-wise could ever be noteworthy, simply because they're white.

And where's the white privilege in someone refusing to acknowledge your achievements precisely because you're white?


No his point was that it wasn't unusual for white people to rise in any given industry. Not that it isn't an accomplishment

Have you completely forgotten what this topic is about? You know, the group of black competitors that were the only all-black team to make it into the finals?


You're making a sweeping generalization based on race and with zero regard for background or career choice.

The discussion turned this way because DifferentialEquation brought this up:

DifferentialEquation posted...
What about a white guy becoming extremely successful in hip hop or becoming one of the best NBA players of all time? Would his race make his achievement more impressive?


ledbowman adamantly refused to admit this was even unusual (because then he won't have to admit the double-standard) by hand-waving away with:

ledbowman posted...
It's not amazing to see a white man rise in any industry.


That does not address the example DifferentialEquation brought up. It is not a counterpoint. ledbowman's arguing in bad faith, and in turn you are as well.
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Kazi1212
05/04/18 8:42:58 PM
#366:


4chan did a scummy thing, not surprising. They used a legitimate and reasonable question of why bring race or gender into this as a platcorm to launch racial tirades. But the question still stands, why bring race and gender when their project is perfectly worthy of all the praise in its own right.
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Delirious_Beard
05/04/18 9:33:53 PM
#368:


suspects
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DifferentialEquation
05/04/18 9:37:44 PM
#369:


Conflict posted...
And despite DE being an admitted parody account designed to mock you and your ilk,


No, I'm not. When did I ever admit this?
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Ushiromiya
05/04/18 9:38:32 PM
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KobeSystem
05/04/18 9:38:36 PM
#371:


Not surprised with the victim blaming going on here. I guess they are not allowed to be proud of excelling in an area African Americans don't usually excel aka NASA competitions >.>
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hyperpsycho
05/04/18 9:52:02 PM
#372:


Burn 4chan to the ground.
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DifferentialEquation
05/04/18 9:54:10 PM
#373:


hyperpsycho posted...
Burn 4chan to the ground.


Obviously this was a bad thing, but overall 4chan does more good than bad.

like this for example: https://www.cnet.com/news/woman-puts-cat-in-bin-web-strikes-back/

They're a net positive force in this world.
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Kazi1212
05/04/18 10:03:38 PM
#374:


DifferentialEquation posted...
hyperpsycho posted...
Burn 4chan to the ground.


Obviously this was a bad thing, but overall 4chan does more good than bad.

like this for example: https://www.cnet.com/news/woman-puts-cat-in-bin-web-strikes-back/

They're a net positive force in this world.


Didnt 4chan also help catch quite a few pedophiles?
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hyperpsycho
05/04/18 10:09:37 PM
#375:


AwesomeOSauce posted...
/pol/ =/= 4chan

to be fair most of the site hates and laughes at them. This isn't /b/ level trolling this angry butthurt pol

/pol/ has infected every board on that site.
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snake_5036
05/04/18 10:15:07 PM
#376:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
why the female group would try to use their race and gender as a prop to win the contest...

It's called underrepresentation in the field.
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Lathissamus
05/04/18 11:01:44 PM
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Well this topic was interesting to read. Nothing else to be said really. Good on them for being proud. Black women need more representation in these fields and I'm glad they're proud of themselves as black women to make it that far.
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Kazi1212
05/04/18 11:05:11 PM
#378:


snake_5036 posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
why the female group would try to use their race and gender as a prop to win the contest...

It's called underrepresentation in the field.


What does underrepresentation have to do with bringing up race and gender in a contest where its about the merits of the projects itself? You can say black women are underrepresented in the field, and thats accurate, but that doesnt mean you can use that fact to make your project somehow more worthy of winning than others. I dont think Im being unreasonable here
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Kenny_Mayne
05/04/18 11:07:50 PM
#379:


CE is literally worse than 4chan
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thelovefist
05/05/18 6:05:48 AM
#380:


Kenny_Mayne posted...
CE is literally worse than 4chan

Imagine becoming so hysterical that one would post this.
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Howl
05/05/18 8:21:48 AM
#381:


Imagine a white man purposely drawing attention to his race and gender in the exact same way these women did. They would be harrassed endlessly and called white supremacists.
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Dragonblade01
05/05/18 8:34:48 AM
#382:


Howl posted...
Imagine a white man purposely drawing attention to his race and gender in the exact same way these women did. They would be harrassed endlessly and called white supremacists.

Well, it's important to note that they would also be incorrect if they did that.
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Howl
05/05/18 8:51:56 AM
#383:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Howl posted...
Imagine a white man purposely drawing attention to his race and gender in the exact same way these women did. They would be harrassed endlessly and called white supremacists.

Well, it's important to note that they would also be incorrect if they did that.


I don't really understand your post because of the way you worded it. When you said they would also be incorrect if they did that, did you mean they as in the group of white men drawing attention to themselves, or they as in the people harrassing them for doing that.
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Kineth
05/05/18 8:59:45 AM
#384:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Howl posted...
Imagine a white man purposely drawing attention to his race and gender in the exact same way these women did. They would be harrassed endlessly and called white supremacists.

Well, it's important to note that they would also be incorrect if they did that.


Yeah, mostly because it's bad salesmanship. That doesn't separate him from the crowd, at all.
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Dragonblade01
05/05/18 9:05:31 AM
#385:


Howl posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...
Howl posted...
Imagine a white man purposely drawing attention to his race and gender in the exact same way these women did. They would be harrassed endlessly and called white supremacists.

Well, it's important to note that they would also be incorrect if they did that.


I don't really understand your post because of the way you worded it. When you said they would also be incorrect if they did that, did you mean they as in the group of white men drawing attention to themselves, or they as in the people harrassing them for doing that.

I mean that they wouldn't be the only group of white men in the competition. So they'd be wrong in saying that they're the only group of white men.

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NeonOctopus
05/05/18 9:43:48 AM
#386:


hyperpsycho posted...
Burn 4chan to the ground.

Only /b/ and /pol/ are the bad boards. The rest are fine. /gif/ usually has some good porn >_>
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soulunison2
05/05/18 9:52:58 AM
#388:


DifferentialEquation posted...
hyperpsycho posted...
Burn 4chan to the ground.


Obviously this was a bad thing, but overall 4chan does more good than bad.

like this for example: https://www.cnet.com/news/woman-puts-cat-in-bin-web-strikes-back/

They're a net positive force in this world.


Lmao foh

They literally have done more wrong than actual good

Bomb threats
Rigging online polls
Harming their own users
Etc etc

Foh with that vigilante savior bs 4chan was terrible
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DifferentialEquation
05/05/18 11:31:16 AM
#389:


soulunison2 posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
hyperpsycho posted...
Burn 4chan to the ground.


Obviously this was a bad thing, but overall 4chan does more good than bad.

like this for example: https://www.cnet.com/news/woman-puts-cat-in-bin-web-strikes-back/

They're a net positive force in this world.


Lmao foh

They literally have done more wrong than actual good

Bomb threats
Rigging online polls
Harming their own users
Etc etc

Foh with that vigilante savior bs 4chan was terrible


Just the fact that they got justice for that cat outweighs all the negatives.
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snake_5036
05/05/18 1:30:06 PM
#390:


Hey, yeah, just because they're a breeding ground for the modern neo-nazi and KKK movements doesn't mean the whole site is bad! They did one good thing in their 15 years of existence
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Nukleen
05/06/18 1:24:28 PM
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FrisbeeDude
05/06/18 1:26:25 PM
#392:


Howl posted...
Imagine a white man purposely drawing attention to his race and gender in the exact same way these women did. They would be harrassed endlessly and called white supremacists.


I'd wonder what their reasoning was for it
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Serious Cat
05/06/18 1:28:30 PM
#393:


Nukleen posted...
I think the people that did this succeeded;

https://mobile.twitter.com/OliveDknight/status/991013552612929536

https://mobile.twitter.com/BFABWInfo/status/990957967595003905

They specifically closed voting early because of the vote stuffing against them. I'm not sure that they knew why voting ended early.
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Nukleen
05/06/18 1:33:38 PM
#395:


Serious Cat posted...
Nukleen posted...
I think the people that did this succeeded;

https://mobile.twitter.com/OliveDknight/status/991013552612929536

https://mobile.twitter.com/BFABWInfo/status/990957967595003905

They specifically closed voting early because of the vote stuffing against them. I'm not sure that they knew why voting ended early.


So are the girls going or not? Or has the whole thing been cancelled?

Edit: I don't think they made it;

https://mobile.twitter.com/shondarhimes/status/992228372963983360
https://mobile.twitter.com/Mmmikaylaaa__/status/991055270372659200
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Serious Cat
05/06/18 2:03:22 PM
#396:


They haven't announced the winners yet.
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Howl
05/06/18 3:49:04 PM
#397:


Regardless of everything posted itt so far, it should be noted that all 3 of these women are extremely intelligent and fine as hell to boot.
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Delirious_Beard
05/06/18 9:53:49 PM
#398:


NeonOctopus posted...
hyperpsycho posted...
Burn 4chan to the ground.

Only /b/ and /pol/ are the bad boards. The rest are fine. /gif/ usually has some good porn >_>


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