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Darklit_Minuet
05/11/18 12:59:35 PM
#101:


Funbazooka posted...
The logical conclusion of the far left's shortsightedness would be that authorities should not be allowed to arrest black people when they violate the law.

No. Just that they shouldn't be allowed to assault people, regardless if they broke the law and regardless of their skin color.

Can you stop putting words in our mouths?
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Kill_Marxism
05/11/18 1:04:15 PM
#102:


So yet another case of made up police brutality? How surprising!!! I'm surprised!!! Look at my surprise face :O
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Solid Snake07
05/11/18 1:06:01 PM
#103:


I think the officer was excessive, but people need to stop being dumb and resisting arrest and asking dumb shit like to "see his supervisor". Dude, this isn't the cashier at burger king, it's a god damn cop. you're not talking to anyone else unless you're going to jail.
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Patchwork
05/11/18 1:11:41 PM
#104:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Funbazooka posted...
The logical conclusion of the far left's shortsightedness would be that authorities should not be allowed to arrest black people when they violate the law.

No. Just that they shouldn't be allowed to assault people, regardless if they broke the law and regardless of their skin color.

Can you stop putting words in our mouths?


What's your game plan when an officer tries to arrest someone and the person resists being handcuffed?
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Darklit_Minuet
05/11/18 1:21:05 PM
#105:


Patchwork posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Funbazooka posted...
The logical conclusion of the far left's shortsightedness would be that authorities should not be allowed to arrest black people when they violate the law.

No. Just that they shouldn't be allowed to assault people, regardless if they broke the law and regardless of their skin color.

Can you stop putting words in our mouths?


What's your game plan when an officer tries to arrest someone and the person resists being handcuffed?

That's their job to figure out. I don't know what the right way is, just that this is the wrong way. They have to figure out a way to do their job without assaulting people.

It's like going to a carpenter and him selling you a wobbly table. I don't know what the proper way to make tables is, but I'm pretty sure that if it's wobbly you're doing it wrong.
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Patchwork
05/11/18 1:25:35 PM
#106:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Funbazooka posted...
The logical conclusion of the far left's shortsightedness would be that authorities should not be allowed to arrest black people when they violate the law.

No. Just that they shouldn't be allowed to assault people, regardless if they broke the law and regardless of their skin color.

Can you stop putting words in our mouths?


What's your game plan when an officer tries to arrest someone and the person resists being handcuffed?

That's their job to figure out. I don't know what the right way is, just that this is the wrong way. They have to figure out a way to do their job without assaulting people.

It's like going to a carpenter and him selling you a wobbly table. I don't know what the proper way to make tables is, but I'm pretty sure that if it's wobbly you're doing it wrong.


Ask.

Tell.

Make.

That's how this works. I ask you to put your hands behind your back. You don't. I tell you to put your hands behind your back. You don't.

Now, I make you put your hands behind your back.

You don't decide, after breaking the law, whether you get arrested or not. And clearly you have no clue what it takes to get someone into handcuffs when they don't want to be handcuffed.
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Darklit_Minuet
05/11/18 1:32:00 PM
#107:


Patchwork posted...
Ask.

Tell.

Make.

That's how this works. I ask you to put your hands behind your back. You don't. I tell you to put your hands behind your back. You don't.

Now, I make you put your hands behind your back.

You don't decide, after breaking the law, whether you get arrested or not. And clearly you have no clue what it takes to get someone into handcuffs when they don't want to be

That's fine. Just make them put their hands behind their back without choking, punching, slamming, or otherwise damaging the person you're trying to arrest.

For instance, you may subdue someone using a net gun.

http://www.hendonpub.com/assets/articles/2723/9c0b25ff-db79-49fd-88f1-573e82cfbbd7.jpg

This prevents them from retreating and from assaulting you, without you needing to harm them.

But nope, can't carry net guns around, cops have to carry murder guns instead.
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Capn Circus
05/11/18 1:33:16 PM
#108:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
That's their job to figure out. I don't know what the right way is, just that this is the wrong way.


What a childish mentality.

I'll give you a hint: they've already figured it out.
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ManBeast462
05/11/18 1:33:47 PM
#109:


What did he do?
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Darklit_Minuet
05/11/18 1:35:43 PM
#110:


Capn Circus posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
That's their job to figure out. I don't know what the right way is, just that this is the wrong way.


What a childish mentality.

I'll give you a hint: they've already figured it out.

They "figured out" a bad way to do it. This way isn't acceptable, thus we need to force them to figure out a new way by banning their current way.
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Patchwork
05/11/18 1:41:29 PM
#111:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
Ask.

Tell.

Make.

That's how this works. I ask you to put your hands behind your back. You don't. I tell you to put your hands behind your back. You don't.

Now, I make you put your hands behind your back.

You don't decide, after breaking the law, whether you get arrested or not. And clearly you have no clue what it takes to get someone into handcuffs when they don't want to be

That's fine. Just make them put their hands behind their back without choking, punching, slamming, or otherwise damaging the person you're trying to arrest.

For instance, you may subdue someone using a net gun.

http://www.hendonpub.com/assets/articles/2723/9c0b25ff-db79-49fd-88f1-573e82cfbbd7.jpg

This prevents them from retreating and from assaulting you, without you needing to harm them.

But nope, can't carry net guns around, cops have to carry murder guns instead.


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StraightMACLIN
05/11/18 1:49:21 PM
#112:


ManBeast462 posted...
What did he do?


He basically went to a waffle house to try and fight an employee. Cops got called and he resisted arrest.
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Veggeta X
05/11/18 1:53:42 PM
#113:


IMO, he was being a douche and should have done every thing the cop said but the cop should have definitely handled it better. More wrong on the cop's than the kid's.
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Orthopox12
05/11/18 1:56:19 PM
#114:


I think Im gonna abstain from Waffle House. Who was it in another topic "so is waffle house like Syria".
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Konflikt
05/11/18 2:28:29 PM
#116:


t3h_m45k3d_G4R0 posted...
ModLogic posted...
why does it matter what his skin color is?

Because you can post about blacks being victims but if you post about them being perps you get modded


Did you enjoy your suspension for posting racist shit?
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Paper_Okami
05/11/18 5:06:30 PM
#117:


Patchwork posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Funbazooka posted...
The logical conclusion of the far left's shortsightedness would be that authorities should not be allowed to arrest black people when they violate the law.

No. Just that they shouldn't be allowed to assault people, regardless if they broke the law and regardless of their skin color.

Can you stop putting words in our mouths?


What's your game plan when an officer tries to arrest someone and the person resists being handcuffed?

That's their job to figure out. I don't know what the right way is, just that this is the wrong way. They have to figure out a way to do their job without assaulting people.

It's like going to a carpenter and him selling you a wobbly table. I don't know what the proper way to make tables is, but I'm pretty sure that if it's wobbly you're doing it wrong.


Ask.

Tell.

Make.

That's how this works. I ask you to put your hands behind your back. You don't. I tell you to put your hands behind your back. You don't.

Now, I make you put your hands behind your back.

You don't decide, after breaking the law, whether you get arrested or not. And clearly you have no clue what it takes to get someone into handcuffs when they don't want to be handcuffed.


that's some fucking fascist bullshit
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scorpion41
05/11/18 5:10:56 PM
#118:


Paper_Okami posted...
Patchwork posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Funbazooka posted...
The logical conclusion of the far left's shortsightedness would be that authorities should not be allowed to arrest black people when they violate the law.

No. Just that they shouldn't be allowed to assault people, regardless if they broke the law and regardless of their skin color.

Can you stop putting words in our mouths?


What's your game plan when an officer tries to arrest someone and the person resists being handcuffed?

That's their job to figure out. I don't know what the right way is, just that this is the wrong way. They have to figure out a way to do their job without assaulting people.

It's like going to a carpenter and him selling you a wobbly table. I don't know what the proper way to make tables is, but I'm pretty sure that if it's wobbly you're doing it wrong.


Ask.

Tell.

Make.

That's how this works. I ask you to put your hands behind your back. You don't. I tell you to put your hands behind your back. You don't.

Now, I make you put your hands behind your back.

You don't decide, after breaking the law, whether you get arrested or not. And clearly you have no clue what it takes to get someone into handcuffs when they don't want to be handcuffed.


that's some fucking fascist bullshit


So what do you propose? Politely requesting until the perp either assaults you or walks away? Pretty sure thats not how law enforcement should work.
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Funbazooka
05/11/18 5:12:59 PM
#119:


Paper_Okami posted...
Patchwork posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Patchwork posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Funbazooka posted...
The logical conclusion of the far left's shortsightedness would be that authorities should not be allowed to arrest black people when they violate the law.

No. Just that they shouldn't be allowed to assault people, regardless if they broke the law and regardless of their skin color.

Can you stop putting words in our mouths?


What's your game plan when an officer tries to arrest someone and the person resists being handcuffed?

That's their job to figure out. I don't know what the right way is, just that this is the wrong way. They have to figure out a way to do their job without assaulting people.

It's like going to a carpenter and him selling you a wobbly table. I don't know what the proper way to make tables is, but I'm pretty sure that if it's wobbly you're doing it wrong.


Ask.

Tell.

Make.

That's how this works. I ask you to put your hands behind your back. You don't. I tell you to put your hands behind your back. You don't.

Now, I make you put your hands behind your back.

You don't decide, after breaking the law, whether you get arrested or not. And clearly you have no clue what it takes to get someone into handcuffs when they don't want to be handcuffed.


that's some fucking fascist bullshit

lol
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ModLogic
05/11/18 7:55:06 PM
#120:


StraightMACLIN posted...
ManBeast462 posted...
What did he do?


He basically went to a waffle house to try and fight an employee. Cops got called and he resisted arrest.


post 3

Capn Circus posted...
Every time something happens to a black person it's now national news.

Then it comes out what they did wrong.

But the seed of "we are saying they are black and that means it's racist" has already been planted.


lmfao
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Darklit_Minuet
05/11/18 11:10:31 PM
#121:


scorpion41 posted...
So what do you propose? Politely requesting until the perp either assaults you or walks away? Pretty sure thats not how law enforcement should work.

Net guns.
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ModLogic
05/12/18 12:32:05 AM
#122:


bump to expose the real racists who jumped on the cop without all the facts solely cos of his skin color
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Darklit_Minuet
05/12/18 12:52:37 AM
#123:


ModLogic posted...
bump to expose the real racists who jumped on the cop without all the facts solely cos of his skin color

For the 50th fucking time, the skin color of both parties is completely irrelevant. Assaulting white people is wrong too.
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MedzXVIII
05/12/18 12:58:19 AM
#124:


Black teen in tuxedo choked outside of Waffle House.

He should not eat so fast
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Agnostic420
05/12/18 9:01:07 AM
#125:


Mainstream coverage with Waffle House, now the back grandma in the car and then the Waffle House Lady before that.

Mainstream media however seems pretty biased.
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Funbazooka
05/13/18 3:16:16 AM
#126:


Racism Strikes Again At A Waffle House?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f11W0KIgss" data-time="

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Grischnak
05/13/18 3:52:38 AM
#127:


Solid Snake07 posted...
I think the officer was excessive, but people need to stop being dumb and resisting arrest and asking dumb shit like to "see his supervisor". Dude, this isn't the cashier at burger king, it's a god damn cop. you're not talking to anyone else unless you're going to jail.


I have always found the concept of sober people resisting arrest fascinating(obviously intoxicated people are often too out of it to make good decisions). I mean, I understand the innate urge to struggle when someone is trying to restrain you but you should have enough self control to be able to resist such urges in that situation. Even if you are 100% innocent of any crime, literally nothing good is going to come from resisting arrest...ever. That's not an encounter you're going to win and even if you did "win"...then what? You go on the run from the cops? Seems like a bad idea. It's just so self-destructive to resist arrest.
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Darklit_Minuet
05/13/18 11:45:09 AM
#128:


Grischnak posted...
I have always found the concept of sober people resisting arrest fascinating(obviously intoxicated people are often too out of it to make good decisions). I mean, I understand the innate urge to struggle when someone is trying to restrain you but you should have enough self control to be able to resist such urges in that situation. Even if you are 100% innocent of any crime, literally nothing good is going to come from resisting arrest...ever. That's not an encounter you're going to win and even if you did "win"...then what? You go on the run from the cops? Seems like a bad idea. It's just so self-destructive to resist arrest.

Nothing good happened for the man who stood in front of the tank in Tienanmen Square
Nothing good happened to those who self-immolated in protest
Nothing good happened to Rosa Parks when she sat at the front of the bus
Nothing good happened to Martin Luther King after all his protesting and speeches, he got shot

Sometimes a cause is worth sacrificing yourself for. You don't go into it expecting to win. It might not benefit you directly, but it's the only way to change the world and make it a better place for everyone else living in it.
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Ammonitida
05/13/18 12:00:13 PM
#129:


apocalyptic_4 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Axiom posted...
People already trying to defend a cop literally choking a dude who isn't even fighting back. Yeah this is definitely CE


If he were white CE wouldn't give a shit.


How often does the opposite happen


Rarely, but that's also true for black people. Using data provided by the PPCS;

https://necpluribusimpar.net/reality-police-violence-us/

White men have on average 0.35 contacts with the police every year, compared to 0.32 for black men and 0.27 for hispanics. Thus, despite how ubiquitous stories about black people who are constantly stopped by the police are in the media, they are not representative of reality.

Among men who had at least one contact with the police, the probability that force was used or threatened is 1.9% for whites, 5.5% for blacks and 3.8% for hispanics.
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Grischnak
05/13/18 2:05:22 PM
#130:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Grischnak posted...
I have always found the concept of sober people resisting arrest fascinating(obviously intoxicated people are often too out of it to make good decisions). I mean, I understand the innate urge to struggle when someone is trying to restrain you but you should have enough self control to be able to resist such urges in that situation. Even if you are 100% innocent of any crime, literally nothing good is going to come from resisting arrest...ever. That's not an encounter you're going to win and even if you did "win"...then what? You go on the run from the cops? Seems like a bad idea. It's just so self-destructive to resist arrest.

Nothing good happened for the man who stood in front of the tank in Tienanmen Square
Nothing good happened to those who self-immolated in protest
Nothing good happened to Rosa Parks when she sat at the front of the bus
Nothing good happened to Martin Luther King after all his protesting and speeches, he got shot

Sometimes a cause is worth sacrificing yourself for. You don't go into it expecting to win. It might not benefit you directly, but it's the only way to change the world and make it a better place for everyone else living in it.

Literally just compared random assholes of the world to Rosa Parks and MLK. Sorry but no.
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Darklit_Minuet
05/13/18 6:42:53 PM
#131:


Grischnak posted...
Literally just compared random assholes of the world to Rosa Parks and MLK. Sorry but no.

Lots of people thought of Rosa Parks and MLK as random assholes who inconvenienced their lives at the time.
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cjsdowg
05/13/18 6:53:34 PM
#132:


Capn Circus posted...
Every time something happens to a black person it's now national news.

Then it comes out what they did wrong.

But the seed of "we are saying they are black and that means it's racist" has already been planted


One since we are speaking about WF. Even if that lady did do wrong that does not make police brutality right.
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cjsdowg
05/13/18 6:57:32 PM
#133:


scorpion41 posted...

So what do you propose? Politely requesting until the perp either assaults you or walks away? Pretty sure thats not how law enforcement should work.


When it comes to you , a black man can comply and you still defend him being killed .
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Grischnak
05/13/18 7:44:44 PM
#134:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Grischnak posted...
Literally just compared random assholes of the world to Rosa Parks and MLK. Sorry but no.

Lots of people thought of Rosa Parks and MLK as random assholes who inconvenienced their lives at the time.


So you honestly think some shithead that resists arrest for, I don't know, having a concealed weapon without a permit is some sort of fucking hero? Or is it only innocent people that should resist arrest? Or are you just a straight up anarchist and think nobody should get arrested ever?
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Funbazooka
05/13/18 8:28:23 PM
#135:


I sincerely hope no left-winger is encouraging black people to disobey the law and resist arrest on the off-chance they would turn into the next MLK or Rosa Parks. Please don't do that.
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scorpion41
05/13/18 9:39:02 PM
#136:


Funbazooka posted...
I sincerely hope no left-winger is encouraging black people to disobey the law and resist arrest on the off-chance they would turn into the next MLK or Rosa Parks. Please don't do that.


Too late. When they made people like Mike Brown and Alton Sterling martyrs, they inadvertently made it okay to fight the police.
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cjsdowg
05/13/18 9:48:05 PM
#137:


scorpion41 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I sincerely hope no left-winger is encouraging black people to disobey the law and resist arrest on the off-chance they would turn into the next MLK or Rosa Parks. Please don't do that.


Too late. When they made people like Mike Brown and Alton Sterling martyrs, they inadvertently made it okay to fight the police.


And for you it is ok for the police to yell I am going to kill you and then kill the man. And it is ok for cops to change their stories after they kill people who comply with their orders.
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scorpion41
05/13/18 9:51:43 PM
#138:


cjsdowg posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I sincerely hope no left-winger is encouraging black people to disobey the law and resist arrest on the off-chance they would turn into the next MLK or Rosa Parks. Please don't do that.


Too late. When they made people like Mike Brown and Alton Sterling martyrs, they inadvertently made it okay to fight the police.


And for you it is ok for the police to yell I am going to kill you and then kill the man. And it is ok for cops to change their stories after they kill people who comply with their orders.


You got all that from what I said? Your spinning skills are legendary my friend.
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cjsdowg
05/13/18 9:52:42 PM
#139:


scorpion41 posted...

You got all that from what I said? Your spinning skills are legendary my friend.


You supported the cop who killed Philando Castile.
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scorpion41
05/13/18 9:57:47 PM
#140:


cjsdowg posted...
scorpion41 posted...

You got all that from what I said? Your spinning skills are legendary my friend.


You supported the cop who killed Philando Castile.


And I stated why Castile messed up.
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Darklit_Minuet
05/14/18 1:09:49 AM
#141:


Grischnak posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Grischnak posted...
Literally just compared random assholes of the world to Rosa Parks and MLK. Sorry but no.

Lots of people thought of Rosa Parks and MLK as random assholes who inconvenienced their lives at the time.


So you honestly think some shithead that resists arrest for, I don't know, having a concealed weapon without a permit is some sort of fucking hero? Or is it only innocent people that should resist arrest? Or are you just a straight up anarchist and think nobody should get arrested ever?

If you've seen my other posts in this topic, you'd know that I have no problems with the police arresting people, just with them using violence to do so. They should have to find another way.
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Darklit_Minuet
05/14/18 1:10:21 AM
#142:


scorpion41 posted...
cjsdowg posted...
scorpion41 posted...

You got all that from what I said? Your spinning skills are legendary my friend.


You supported the cop who killed Philando Castile.


And I stated why Castile messed up.

Castile's mess-up was arguably much smaller than fucking KILLING SOMEONE
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Patchwork
05/14/18 1:43:44 AM
#143:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Grischnak posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Grischnak posted...
Literally just compared random assholes of the world to Rosa Parks and MLK. Sorry but no.

Lots of people thought of Rosa Parks and MLK as random assholes who inconvenienced their lives at the time.


So you honestly think some shithead that resists arrest for, I don't know, having a concealed weapon without a permit is some sort of fucking hero? Or is it only innocent people that should resist arrest? Or are you just a straight up anarchist and think nobody should get arrested ever?

If you've seen my other posts in this topic, you'd know that I have no problems with the police arresting people, just with them using violence to do so. They should have to find another way.


I'm sorry you live in a fantasy world.

Whoever taught you violence is never the answer, while I'm sure good-intentioned, is full of shit.
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Funbazooka
05/14/18 1:54:28 AM
#144:


If you kill your enemies, they win.
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Grischnak
05/14/18 2:25:22 AM
#145:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
If you've seen my other posts in this topic, you'd know that I have no problems with the police arresting people, just with them using violence to do so. They should have to find another way.


I'm not sure I understand your logic. You don't like police getting violent with people but you support people resisting arrest? You do understand it's the resisting arrest that is what generally leads to the violence...don't you? I mean, sure, there are exceptions but generally the police won't fuck you up if you submit peacefully. If you're really so anti-violence you really should be encouraging people to not resist arrest...
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Darklit_Minuet
05/14/18 11:47:36 PM
#146:


Grischnak posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
If you've seen my other posts in this topic, you'd know that I have no problems with the police arresting people, just with them using violence to do so. They should have to find another way.


I'm not sure I understand your logic. You don't like police getting violent with people but you support people resisting arrest? You do understand it's the resisting arrest that is what generally leads to the violence...don't you? I mean, sure, there are exceptions but generally the police won't fuck you up if you submit peacefully. If you're really so anti-violence you really should be encouraging people to not resist arrest...

As I quite clearly stated, I support nonviolently resisting arrest. If someone doesn't want to be cuffed but isn't actually attacking the cop, the cop shouldn't attack him either.

Proportional response. Not escalation.

If this black teen had choked the cop or slammed his head into the window, I'd have no problem with the cop retaliating in equal force. But if the kid is just being an asshole and refusing to put his hands behind his head, don't get violent.

Did this black teen choke the cop or slam his head into a window? I don't think so.
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