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CiIantro
05/15/18 1:43:40 AM
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Oh wait, this is why. America is a bunch of fucking idiots picking sides in a pointless holy war.

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ASithLord7
05/15/18 1:53:33 AM
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Yep. Religious Right as usual.
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gunplagirl
05/15/18 2:02:57 AM
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End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord
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Howl
05/15/18 2:03:56 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.
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gunplagirl
05/15/18 2:04:39 AM
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Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.


Did you just "not all conservatives" me?
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Howl
05/15/18 2:06:59 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.


Did you just "not all conservatives" me?


No, I'm saying there's no conservatives like that. You literally think that people are cartoon charicatures in a video game.
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lilJoe457
05/15/18 2:07:00 AM
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I can't stand Israel. Or Palestine. Hopefully they blow each other off the face of the Earth.
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TheCyborgNinja
05/15/18 2:27:55 AM
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It's two-fold: there are many influential Jewish Americans and Israel is basically the only Western~ nation in the Middle-East.
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Drasilor
05/15/18 2:38:46 AM
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Because this country has been hijacked by zionist.
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CiIantro
05/15/18 2:39:06 AM
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Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.

What she described is literally what the Fox News host in the OP said.
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Howl
05/15/18 2:41:58 AM
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CiIantro posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.

What she described is literally what the Fox news host said.


XD I didn't watch the video so I was wrong about that I guess.
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gunplagirl
05/15/18 4:07:09 AM
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Howl posted...
CiIantro posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.

What she described is literally what the Fox news host said.


XD I didn't watch the video so I was wrong about that I guess.


I didn't even watch the vid either but I know fox news has aired stuff about it the last few days.

I'll wait for my apology now, @Howl
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JBaLLEN66
05/15/18 4:20:50 AM
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Why do Americans like Applebees and Jesus?
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nicklebro
05/15/18 4:25:30 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
CiIantro posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.

What she described is literally what the Fox news host said.


XD I didn't watch the video so I was wrong about that I guess.


I didn't even watch the vid either but I know fox news has aired stuff about it the last few days.

I'll wait for my apology now, @Howl

Lmao good luck, that guys been having a mental breakdown for over an hour now.
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gunplagirl
05/15/18 4:26:53 AM
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nicklebro posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
CiIantro posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.

What she described is literally what the Fox news host said.


XD I didn't watch the video so I was wrong about that I guess.


I didn't even watch the vid either but I know fox news has aired stuff about it the last few days.

I'll wait for my apology now, @Howl

Lmao good luck, that guys been having a mental breakdown for over an hour now.


How's that any different than the rest of his waking hours?

What topic BTW I'm bored at work and don't have anything to do till 5 or so.
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Dragonblade01
05/15/18 4:27:40 AM
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I don't know how much conservative ideas themselves correlate to supporting Israel, but since the American right also tends to correlate with Christianity, and since Christians tend to believe in Biblical prophecies, it makes sense that they might trend towards favoring Israel.
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nicklebro
05/15/18 4:29:18 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
nicklebro posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
CiIantro posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.

What she described is literally what the Fox news host said.


XD I didn't watch the video so I was wrong about that I guess.


I didn't even watch the vid either but I know fox news has aired stuff about it the last few days.

I'll wait for my apology now, @Howl

Lmao good luck, that guys been having a mental breakdown for over an hour now.


How's that any different than the rest of his waking hours?

What topic BTW I'm bored at work and don't have anything to do till 5 or so.

Well I only posted in one with him, but Conflict was making fun of him in another topic but idk which one it was.
But here's this one: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/76607987
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Verdekal
05/15/18 4:36:14 AM
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Always Israel. Beautiful country.
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Howl
05/15/18 6:14:20 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
nicklebro posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Howl posted...
CiIantro posted...
Howl posted...
gunplagirl posted...
End of the world prophecies that they want to initiate

Which makes them like all those "we worship a demon and want to destroy the world and have it reborn" death cults in video games

And we know the only way to stop those cults is to crush them with overwhelming force and potentially destroying their dark lord


Unironically thinks this is what comservatives are like.

What she described is literally what the Fox news host said.


XD I didn't watch the video so I was wrong about that I guess.


I didn't even watch the vid either but I know fox news has aired stuff about it the last few days.

I'll wait for my apology now, @Howl

Lmao good luck, that guys been having a mental breakdown for over an hour now.


How's that any different than the rest of his waking hours?

What topic BTW I'm bored at work and don't have anything to do till 5 or so.


Why should I apologize? I said something and admitted it was incorrect. I didn't do anything to slight you personally.
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Zack_Attackv1
05/15/18 6:15:53 AM
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Verdekal posted...
Always Israel. Beautiful country.

Indeed. The actress who plays my Amazon Queen is from there.
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Sativa_Rose
05/15/18 6:20:01 AM
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For some people it is religious, but I have been working at an Israeli company and I have been working really closely with some Israelis at my job over the past several months, and it has made me curious about the country and I have looked into it some more.

It definitely has something special going for it. I wouldn't want that to be taken away. Honestly I think the closest thing to a peaceful solution would be for Israel to try to buy up as much of the West Bank as possible and try to find a country to take in the Palestinians living there. Israel could basically pay them to leave.
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 6:24:15 AM
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I understand the interest in Isreal. It was literally created to give a homeland to the Jewish people, who have had enough troubles to have earned their happy ending. The problem is that it's not even valuable land. Everyone just wants to pick a fight because famous persons X and Y spent some time there. It's fucking ridiculous to be killing each other over land that has no resources and isn't even that great for raising fucking goats.
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EverDownward
05/15/18 6:26:40 AM
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Daddy Israel is going to teach America how to be the best it can be!
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Sativa_Rose
05/15/18 6:30:51 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
I understand the interest in Isreal. It was literally created to give a homeland to the Jewish people, who have had enough troubles to have earned their happy ending. The problem is that it's not even valuable land. Everyone just wants to pick a fight because famous persons X and Y spent some time there. It's fucking ridiculous to be killing each other over land that has no resources and isn't even that great for raising fucking goats.


It's valuable when it's still a short commute from Jerusalem, a major city with all kinds of highly paid workers looking for places to live
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 6:32:08 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I understand the interest in Isreal. It was literally created to give a homeland to the Jewish people, who have had enough troubles to have earned their happy ending. The problem is that it's not even valuable land. Everyone just wants to pick a fight because famous persons X and Y spent some time there. It's fucking ridiculous to be killing each other over land that has no resources and isn't even that great for raising fucking goats.


It's valuable when it's still a short commute from Jerusalem, a major city with all kinds of highly paid workers looking for places to live


Yeah, but there is nothing about the land that makes it that way. They could build the same city anywhere on the planet. It's not even like it has a strategic importance other than to those looking to get involved in the Middle East.
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HBOSS
05/15/18 6:45:23 AM
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it's God's land, the hub of religion.
that's why it's valuable and has been the center of conflict for centuries.

people fighting over it make the land suck because sacred texts made it so then make it seem certain people have God's given divine right over the lands. it's written that the religions are all branches from this holy land and make these disputed land suck. people have their own interpretations and claim their right to the land.
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Dash_Harber
05/15/18 6:48:24 AM
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HBOSS posted...
it's God's land, the hub of religion.
that's why it's valuable and has been the center of conflict for centuries.

people fighting over it make the land suck because sacred texts made it so then make it seem certain people have God's given divine right over the lands. it's written that the religions are all branches from this holy land and make these disputed land suck. people have their own interpretations and claim their right to the land.


Yeah, I definitely get that, but when both religions also preach forgiveness and peace, it seems more like spitting in their god's eye to violently fight over and ruin the land that is supposedly 'sacred'.
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tennisdude818
05/15/18 6:56:38 AM
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It lobbies politicians in both parties.
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spincr
05/15/18 6:59:29 AM
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Because muslims are wrong.
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CiIantro
05/15/18 1:29:15 PM
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Bump
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Solid Sonic
05/15/18 1:32:20 PM
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I have this huge hangup on the Christian Right venerating Israel and the Jewish faith so much when the most important attribute of Christianity is denied by Judaism. But if I get into it I'll surely be modded.
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RE_expert44
05/15/18 1:32:30 PM
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We still feel sorry for the Jews after the unpleasantness
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Vita_Aeterna
05/15/18 1:33:56 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
It's two-fold: there are many influential Jewish Americans and Israel is basically the only Western~ nation in the Middle-East.

This plus Judaism is more closely tied with Christianity than Islam. Muslims have been the enemies with Christian kingdoms since the 8th century AD.
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Ricemills
05/15/18 1:39:22 PM
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what i found weird is there's many anti-semites alt righters, but yet they go crazy over Israel just because they hate muslims more than jews.

i feel like most of US policy based on hate over benefits these days.
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VectorChaos
05/15/18 1:40:11 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
It lobbies politicians in both parties.

A combination of this because money, and Christian Zionists because muh prophecy
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Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 1:43:45 PM
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Why do liberals hate Israel so much?

They aren't perfect but they are our main ally in that part of the world.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/15/18 1:45:56 PM
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I support Israel because they're the only ones in that region that aren't abjectly horrible. They're doing the best they can with the tamest hand they can. Their opponents are literal genocidal maniacs. There is no perfect solution, there will be collateral damage no matter the route, no matter the policy. I choose to side with those that contribute to the world.
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averagejoel
05/15/18 1:54:14 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
I understand the interest in Isreal. It was literally created to give a homeland to the Jewish people, who have had enough troubles to have earned their happy ending. The problem is that it's not even valuable land. Everyone just wants to pick a fight because famous persons X and Y spent some time there. It's fucking ridiculous to be killing each other over land that has no resources and isn't even that great for raising fucking goats.

the bigger problem is that there were already people living there
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joestarrr
05/15/18 1:58:47 PM
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Dragonblade01 posted...
I don't know how much conservative ideas themselves correlate to supporting Israel, but since the American right also tends to correlate with Christianity, and since Christians tend to believe in Biblical prophecies, it makes sense that they might trend towards favoring Israel.


Pretty good summary.

I'm personally kinda disgusted about America's raging boner for Israel, but whatever.
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tremain07
05/15/18 2:04:27 PM
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The entire middle east should belong to Isreal so maybe Trump will help them reclaim their sotlen land one day, at least that's the big reason why they love him so much. Through anyone actually supporting a move would have to know that even with the full might of America's forces they can't take over the entire fucking region, it'd be world war III with nukes
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ThyCorndog
05/15/18 2:11:00 PM
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why does that woman always look and sound crazy in every clip of her that i've seen
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philsov
05/15/18 2:14:55 PM
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sunken cost fallacy and arrogance

Was a bad call to support, but damn it all, it was our call and we're not gonna be no flip-flopping nimby pimby.
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Sativa_Rose
05/15/18 5:13:25 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I understand the interest in Isreal. It was literally created to give a homeland to the Jewish people, who have had enough troubles to have earned their happy ending. The problem is that it's not even valuable land. Everyone just wants to pick a fight because famous persons X and Y spent some time there. It's fucking ridiculous to be killing each other over land that has no resources and isn't even that great for raising fucking goats.


It's valuable when it's still a short commute from Jerusalem, a major city with all kinds of highly paid workers looking for places to live


Yeah, but there is nothing about the land that makes it that way. They could build the same city anywhere on the planet. It's not even like it has a strategic importance other than to those looking to get involved in the Middle East.


Well, you could say that to anyone about the place they call their homeland, especially if it happens to be in the desert somewhere and not strategically placed on a river or something.

People don't live giving up the land they see as their homeland. Virtually no one in the southwest United States would be on board with giving the land back to Mexico, for example.
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tremain07
05/15/18 5:17:47 PM
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Or giving Hawaii back to it's natives, we stole that place, buried most of it's actual inhabitants and completely made a joke of their culture to suit our consumerist needs and desires.
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Sativa_Rose
05/15/18 5:19:31 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Or giving Hawaii back to it's natives, we stole that place, buried most of it's actual inhabitants and completely made a joke of their culture to suit our consumerist needs and desires.


That would mean deporting a lot of Asian-Americans, maybe to the US mainland, but still there would be a lot of deportations and a lot of them would not be white people >_>
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foreveraIone
05/15/18 5:21:18 PM
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Israel is not our friend.

Netanyahu has lied about iran not going along with the deal.

He's also lied about Iraq having wmds in 2002.

The Prime Minister of Israel constantly lies to America, in order to bait us into costly wars that are not good for us.
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tremain07
05/15/18 5:24:17 PM
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foreveraIone posted...
Israel is not our friend.

Netanyahu has lied about iran not going along with the deal.

He's also lied about Iraq having wmds in 2002.

The Prime Minister of Israel constantly lies to America, in order to bait us into costly wars that are not good for us.

So long as they treat Trump as the God Emperor he wants to be they'll get whatever they want and in this case what they want is America to fully devote itself to Israel's desire to own the entire middle east
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nicklebro
05/15/18 11:28:50 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
tremain07 posted...
Or giving Hawaii back to it's natives, we stole that place, buried most of it's actual inhabitants and completely made a joke of their culture to suit our consumerist needs and desires.


That would mean deporting a lot of Asian-Americans, maybe to the US mainland, but still there would be a lot of deportations and a lot of them would not be white people >_>

Not necessarily. It'd be up to the Hawaiian government if anyone is deported at all. I was born and raised in Hawaii and while a sovereign hawaii movement is alive and strong, they're a lot more level headed than their vocal militant minority would suggest.
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closetkpopfan
05/15/18 11:46:19 PM
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It's largely a religious thing I'd guess. My girlfriend's uncle is a pastor and every time we go to his church he's always taking about supporting Israel just because Jesus. Never talks about what is actually going on currently, just that everyone should support them, cause Jesus.
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nicklebro
05/15/18 11:48:17 PM
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closetkpopfan posted...
It's largely a religious thing I'd guess. My girlfriend's uncle is a pastor and every time we go to his church he's always taking about supporting Israel just because Jesus. Never talks about what is actually going on currently, just that everyone should support them, cause Jesus.

Tbh this is what I've heard as well. So as an atheist, it definitely triggers my gears to grind.
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