Board 8 > Valve cracking down on "sexually explicit" games in the Steam store

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FL81
05/19/18 6:01:03 PM
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voltch
05/19/18 6:01:41 PM
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Goodbye GTA V & The Witcher 3
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FL81
05/19/18 6:02:15 PM
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ZXAdvent_Lucian
05/19/18 6:04:32 PM
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As long as shit like Ladykiller In A Bind gets the boot too, I can accept this.
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Grand Kirby
05/19/18 6:09:00 PM
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Man, this is bad news for my upcoming indie game, Dildo Island.
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scarletspeed7
05/19/18 6:11:27 PM
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What about Pokemon Snap? "Press A to do it!"
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Xiahou Shake
05/19/18 6:14:09 PM
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Supposedly this is happening entirely because of the efforts of a Puritan lobbying group. The whole thing is kind of ridiculous considering these games have been on the store for years with nobody complaining. Like, Huniepop in particular has all the naughty bits removed by default, you actually need to patch them back in. >_>
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v_charon
05/19/18 6:17:19 PM
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Yay, oppression.
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GANON1025
05/19/18 6:17:57 PM
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And it's not just "pornography" games either. It's actually pretty bad.
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Robazoid
05/19/18 6:23:55 PM
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I'm fine with Steam deciding what games it wants to host (ideally they'd just create some sort of 18+ storefront for these types of games, but whatever), but I hate the fact that they aren't giving developers any information for why this is happening. Even if they wanted to abide by these new rules, they have no idea what problems they even need to fix. Apparently there's just total silence from Valve. That, coupled with the double-standard of this only impacting anime-style VN games, and I'm honestly going to be very disappointed in Steam unless they clarify (or reverse) their position.
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voltch
05/19/18 6:32:53 PM
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Goodbye Nier: Automata
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red13n
05/19/18 6:36:30 PM
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Better remove all the Elder Scrolls games with all the mods people are putting in those.
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voltch
05/19/18 9:44:11 PM
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Supposedly they are backtrackinh on this.

Why was this targeting anime only games anyway?
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TheRock1525
05/19/18 9:48:53 PM
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FL81 posted...
https://techraptor.net/content/huniepop-other-adult-games-facing-removal-steam-store

the death of PC gaming


the birth of PC gaming
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scarletspeed7
05/19/18 9:57:44 PM
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voltch posted...
Supposedly they are backtrackinh on this.

Why was this targeting anime only games anyway?

Because they listened to my pleas to end all anime by any means necessary

It's a little bizarre that THIS is the line in quality they draw. There are far worse, predatory practices on Steam that need to be addressed.
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DeepsPraw
05/19/18 10:01:42 PM
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this is SESTA's fault
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Mac Arrowny
05/19/18 10:02:21 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...


the birth of PC gaming


how is babby made
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CelesMyUserName
05/19/18 10:06:06 PM
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my main PC platform is Nutaku now
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Lopen
05/19/18 10:18:02 PM
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I've always kinda hated Steam. Hope they get more aggressive with this and it makes competing platforms gain more traction as a result. Sucks that for a lot of games Steam is mandatory I'd like options.
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Xiahou Shake
05/19/18 10:21:52 PM
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Lopen posted...
Hope they get more aggressive with this and it makes competing platforms gain more traction as a result. Sucks that for a lot of games Steam is mandatory I'd like options.

Steam definitely isn't perfect but I'm already annoyed by how many gaming clients I need to interact with. Sad as it is, more competition would feel like a step backward from a quality of life standpoint.
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MasaomiHouzuki
05/19/18 10:38:39 PM
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The backpedaling is particular bad for Kindred Spirits on the Roof since a Valve representative played through the entire game and gave the okay for every single art asset included too.
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Dark Young Link
05/19/18 11:15:48 PM
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Glad Steam sees the pushback on this. Hopefully they do the right thing.

In the meanwhile, taking a look at the people responsible...

https://twitter.com/ncose/status/997484630273032192

#VICTORY: @Steam_games to remove sexually explicit and sexually violent videogames from platform #metoosolutions no more sexual assault training for the 35mill minors using their site https://endsexualexploitation.org/articles/victory-steam-remove-sexually-explicit-violent-videogames-platform/ for press comments: @DawnHawkins33 or @HaleyCHalverson

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FL81
05/20/18 2:47:47 AM
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Xiahou Shake posted...
Lopen posted...
Hope they get more aggressive with this and it makes competing platforms gain more traction as a result. Sucks that for a lot of games Steam is mandatory I'd like options.

Steam definitely isn't perfect but I'm already annoyed by how many gaming clients I need to interact with. Sad as it is, more competition would feel like a step backward from a quality of life standpoint.

Competition definitely seems like it could do the gaming community some good in this situation

So long as it doesn't become a convoluted mess like the VOIP client situation (Discord vs. Skype vs. TeamSpeak vs. Mumble vs. w/e else is out there)
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crazygamer999
05/20/18 3:14:13 AM
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I found the rise of VNs and...less wholesome games on Steam to have been a bit odd, but harmless for the most part(of course a good amount were money grabs to make you pay both for the game and the patch, but there have been worse practices on there).

Video games make a wonderful scapegoat for moral guardians, huh?
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trdl23
05/20/18 12:41:25 PM
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Yeah, Ulti seems to be right on this. It's feminist reactionaries this time, not Puritan conservatives... though on this issue they're effectively the same thing, just for different "reasons." The reactionaries have a better ideal, but they're still completely wrong here.

I could be misinterpreting it, but I don't think so.
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DeepsPraw
05/20/18 2:40:17 PM
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trdl23 posted...
Yeah, Ulti seems to be right on this. It's feminist reactionaries this time, not Puritan conservatives...


Is there another group than NCOSE claiming responsibility? NCOSE was founded as Morality in Media by members of Christian and Jewish churches. Their only goal is to eliminate pornography. Nothing feminist in there at all
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paperwarior
05/20/18 2:46:13 PM
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Yeah, based on the history of this group, it looks very much like religious reactionaries cloaking themselves in pop-feminist rhetoric.
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TheRock1525
05/20/18 3:01:33 PM
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Maybe it's feminist's fault that religion exists?
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Arti
05/20/18 4:13:20 PM
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Looks like Valve has sent out e-mails saying to disregard the previous e-mails sent out and they're re-reviewing these games.

At least they're communicating with the developers again, so that's a step in the right direction
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paperwarior
05/20/18 5:02:01 PM
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This isn't to say feminists haven't been hostile to anime smut in the past, or that none of them would put pressure on a storefront to remove something they found objectionable. But we shouldn't mistake the offenders here. For one thing, if you start railing against feminists here, you might get them support from the people they're pretending to be.
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FL81
05/20/18 6:57:08 PM
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MasaomiHouzuki
05/20/18 7:37:06 PM
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Ulti's wrong here but there have been (extremely minor) instances of a couple of feminists getting on anime game cases. And by extremely minor I mean a ~10 person twitter outrage fest.
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trdl23
05/21/18 4:00:12 AM
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paperwarior posted...
Yeah, based on the history of this group, it looks very much like religious reactionaries cloaking themselves in pop-feminist rhetoric.

Didn't figure do as much looking into it as I should have, I guess. Fooled me quite a bit then.
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Vlado
05/21/18 4:11:39 AM
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trdl23 posted...
The reactionaries have a better ideal

*spits drink*
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LapisLazuli
05/21/18 8:51:44 AM
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I entered this topic knowing exactly who would be spouting made up bullshit about exactly what subject, lol.

Good to see the backoff.
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WhiteLens
05/22/18 5:55:26 PM
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FL81
05/22/18 8:09:04 PM
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