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Emeraldegg
05/31/18 3:45:43 PM
#101:


Something i just thought of, though it might be a bit of a hassle but it would at least keep you from having to immediately buy a new comp, is if there's a public library around with public desktops, if you had to do stuff that requires you being with the game you could like, type up the post in a word doc while with the game, and then thumb-drive it over to the public desktop to actually post it here.
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KCF0107
05/31/18 3:55:18 PM
#102:


I thought about that, and that is a viable option, but I will need a laptop soon because B8NFLL is just one of dozens of things that either are far more convenient, far less time-consuming, and/or only possible on a laptop.

In related news, I forgot that I had a 10 year old laptop that is barely functional that I can use today. I plan on updating the spreadsheet momentarily for adding rookies, adding back in some players for teams I accidentally removed, and updating the team financial sheet. If it all goes well, I actually intend on starting free agency tonight.
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Emeraldegg
05/31/18 3:57:02 PM
#103:


Hooray!
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KCF0107
05/31/18 5:39:12 PM
#104:


All rookies are up, and the team financial and free agent sheets should be fully updated. I hope to post within a few hours all the free agency info.
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ShatteredElysium
05/31/18 6:27:52 PM
#105:


There's a 42 rated FB in FA? Wow

Also, I know you mentioned it in the sheet but it still baffles me how the Seahawks have so much cap space whilst still having a solid team. Like I'd get it if they developed players so they have higher rated players on contracts signed before ratings went up. Which I guess is possible but they have performed badly for years and when users perform badly, they are punished with ratings drops not rises.
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KCF0107
05/31/18 8:19:09 PM
#106:


Free Agency

See all those players in the free agent sheet? Now is the time to attempt to sign them to your team ahead of the preseason. I say attempt because you are in theory competing against the other 31 teams for the services of all availble free agents.

Unlike the three offseason events involving signings, the base/desired deal that I will eventually list may not be enough to sign them, and almost definitely will not if it is a high-rated player and/or the top-rated free agent at each position. If you do intend to seek out one or more of those players, you will probably want to send out a custom offer in excess of what they want, whether that means years, total money, signing bonus, or what's usually the case, a combination of the three. Do be aware though that there are new rules starting this season in terms of the max contract length that I will allow you to offer a player.

You may not offer a contract to a player that goes beyond their age 34 season unless the base deal already extends beyond that. If a free agent is 31 right now and wants a two-year contract, you may go as far as four years because that would take him through his age-34 season (31, 32, 33, 34). If another free agent is also 31 and wants a five-year contract, you can offer him those five years but no more than that. Any player 28 and under is not affected by this rule as the max contract length, seven years, will take them through their age-34 season or younger.

Not every free agent is up on the sheet. I would estimate that somewhere between 15-25% of all free agents are on there. The free agent sheet just lists the Top 8 and worst at each position. If there's a certain kind of player that you are looking for that either isn't or don't know if they are on the sheet, feel free to ask me, and I will get back to you if such a player fits that description.
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KCF0107
05/31/18 8:28:36 PM
#107:


There will be three periods of free agency, each subsequent period spanning fewer real life days than the previous one. Here are the tentative real life days each period will last:
1st - 7 days
2nd - 4 days
3rd - 1 day

Here are some sample contract offers that I will accept, including to more simple approaches:
4 / $7.00 mil / $1.40 mil
3 years default, +$2 mil total salary, +$500k signing bonus
2 years default

When you give me an offer, you are offering my consent to offer the player the closest deal that he will consider, meaning that if you offer 4 / $6.00 mil / $2.00 mil and he will only consider it when it is 4 / $7.00 mil / $2.00 mil, I will offer him the latter. If that does not sit well with you, then you have the simpler options I previously laid out or you can explicitly say not to offer the contract unless he will consider those exact terms.

When you PM me the offers, I want you to include a header that says "[Your Team]'s Offers" so that I don't accidentally open them. In addition to being the commissioner, I am also the Dolphins' GM, so there could be some conflict of interest. Thus, the best way around that is for me to not open those PMs until the deadline for the current phase has passed. I have default PM settings, so you can tell if and when I open a PM of yours. Also, free agency is almost always not my way of team building, and my only plans right now are to offer a QB who didn't even qualify for the free agent sheet to become my #3 QB.

Under no circumstances may you ask me if so and so player will consider a certain deal or anything of that nature. You may ask me general questions regarding free agency but nothing that goes against the spirit of it or give you a competitive advantage. If you do have a question and use the PM system instead of the topic, make sure that you are clear that you are asking a question, or I might not open it out of fear the PM containing contract offers.

There are two types of contract offers that I will immediately discard:
1. Any mentioning of the word maximum pertaining to total salary and/or signing bonus
2. A massive one year contract (possibly two-year contracts depending on the situation)

The first one I have actually received in the past. I threw it out because it is both unfair in the laziest of ways and also impossible as you can go quite high in total salary, and I do not want to spend 20 minutes inputting a single offer.

The second one is also unfair to teams with lots of cap space to maintain artificial flexibility for future seasons by using up a lot of cap space this season and then sign that same player next season to an uncontested market or below-market contract in the following offseason in a process they can repeat as many times as they can/want.

Also due to fairness, any cuts you wish to make during free agency must be done well ahead of time to give other users enough of a chance to make a bid on their services:
- 96 hours prior to the end of Period 1
- 72 hours prior to the end of Period 2
- No cuts allowed in Period 3
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KCF0107
05/31/18 8:32:46 PM
#108:


Every user should have been told when they signed their rookies in the spreadsheet or via PM of their cap space and roster holes entering free agency. Should free agency end with there still being holes on your roster, the AI will fill those holes for you. You do not have to be under the salary cap at the end of free agency. I will give users several days after free agency ends to do so.

This will take some time, but the following posts of mine will contain the base deals for all the players in the free agent sheet. Once I do that, consider free agency as having officially begun. The deadline to send me offers for the first period of free agency will be 8 PM ET on Friday, June 8th.
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KCF0107
05/31/18 8:51:18 PM
#109:


QBs
Michael Vick - 2 / $14.7 mil / $3.66 mil
Carson Palmer - 2 / $13.06 mil / $3.14 mil
Brad Smith - 2 / $11.66 mil / $2.72 mil
David Carr - 2 / $16.44 mil / $3.75 mil
Ryan Perrilloux - 4 / $20.48 mil / $4.56 mil
Cam Newton - 4 / $17.68 mil / $3.72 mil
Rex Grossman - 3 / $12.21 mil / $2.46 mil
Tavaris Jackson - 4 / $16.28 mil / $3.28 mil
B.J. Daniels - 3 / $3.99 mil / $630k

HBs
LenDale White - 4 / $21.76 mil / $4.32 mil
Courtney Lewis - 4 / $21.76 mil / $4.32 mil
Domanick Davis - 3 / $15.06 mil / $2.97 mil
Carl Stewart - 4 / $20.08 mil / $3.96 mil
Darren McFadden - 4 / $16.80 mil / $3.28 mil
Marlon Lucky - 4 / $16.80 mil / $3.28 mil
Terry Longbons - 4 / $16.80 mil / $3.28 mil
Selvin Young - 4 / $16.80 mil / $3.28 mil
LaMichael James - 4 / $4.44 mil / $640k

FBs
Greg Jones - 3 / $11.43 mil / $3.00 mil
Tim Castille - 2 / $7.40 mil / $1.90 mil
J.D. Runnels - 2 / $6.86 mil / $1.66 mil
James Coleman - 2 / $6.74 mil / $1.60 mil
Dane Zaslaw - 2 / $6.06 mil / $1.38 mil
Chris Alexander - 2 / $4.68 mil / $1.02 mil
Cory Anderson - 3 / $5.64 mil / $1.20 mil
Roger Allison - 3 / $4.95 mil / $1.02 mil
John Dickey - 1 / $390k / $0

WRs
Pierre Garcon - 4 / $17.68 mil / $2.96 mil
Bryant Johnson - 3 / $12.15 mil / $2.04 mil
Jason Hill - 4 / $16.20 mil / $2.72 mil
Todd Blythe - 4 / $16.20 mil / $2.72 mil
Malcolm Kelly - 4 / $16.20 mil / $2.72 mil
Mohammed Massaquoi - 4 / $14.72 mil / $2.44 mil
Jonathan Baldwin - 3 / $9.93 mil / $1.65 mil
Tyrone Calico - 3 / $9.33 mil / $1.53 mil
Russell Polk - 3 / $2.79 mil / $300k
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KCF0107
05/31/18 9:03:01 PM
#110:


TEs
Richard Quinn - 4 / $8.24 mil / $1.24 mil
Martin Rucker - 4 / $7.76 mil / $1.16 mil
Octavius Darby - 4 / $7.76 mil / $1.16 mil
Dajleon Farr - 4 / $7.28 mil / $1.08 mil
Kevin Everett - 3 / $5.46 mil / $810k
Andrew Clarke - 3 / $5.10 mil / $750k
Jonathan Hannah - 4 / $6.32 mil / $920k
Dustin Keller - 4 / $6.32 mil / $920k
Quincy Atkins - 3 / $2.28 mil / $270k

OTs
Rob Petitti - 3 / $21.27 mil / $5.88 mil
Tavita Thompson - 3 / $18.54 mil / $5.01 mil
Jonathan Scott - 3 / $14.55 mil / $3.72 mil
Mike Jones - 3 / $11.82 mil / $2.82 mil
Michael Roos - 3 / $6.48 mil / $1.08 mil
Blake Gold - 5 / $10.80 mil / $1.80 mil
Andrew Cameron - 5 / $10.45 mil / $1.70 mil
Geoff Schwartz - 5 / $10.45 mil / $1.70 mil
Mike Wilder - 3 / $2.67 mil / $270k

Gs
Claude Terrell - 3 / $17.19 mil / $3.48 mil
Aaron Lips - 3 / $14.64 mil / $2.94 mil
Steve Sciullo - 3 / $13.38 mil / $2.67 mil
Cosey Coleman - 3 / $12.12 mil / $2.43 mil
Reggie Wells - 3 / $10.83 mil / $2.16 mil
David Baas - 3 / $10.83 mil / $2.16 mil
Adam Stenavich - 3 / $9.57 mil / $1.89 mil
Mark Setterstrom - 3 / $8.28 mil / $1.62 mil
Doug Mason - 3 / $2.16 mil / $270k

Cs
Al Johnson - 3 / $5.88 mil / $1.08 mil
Scott Mruczkowski - 3 / $5.88 mil / $1.08 mil
Mark Fenton - 3 / $5.52 mil / $990k
Na'Shan Goddard - 3 / $5.52 mil / $990k
Adam Kraus - 3 / $5.52 mil / $990k
Rob Sims - 3 / $5.16 mil / $930k
Tim Schafer - 3 / $4.84 mil / $840k
Richie Gandy - 3 / $4.44 mil / $780k
Neil Nichols - 3 / $2.13 mil / $240k
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KCF0107
05/31/18 9:16:41 PM
#111:


DEs
Jamaal Anderson - 4 / $25.12 mil / $6.00 mil
Paul Freeney - 4 / $14.28 mil / $2.76 mil
Dan Cody - 3 / $9.71 mil / $2.07 mil
John Abraham - 3 / $8.43 mil / $1.41 mil
Ryan Nece - 3 / $8.43 mil / $1.41 mil
Matt Roth - 3 / $8.43 mil / $1.41 mil
Erasmus James - 3 / $7.29 mil / $1.08 mil
Michael Boley - 3 / $7.29 mil / $1.08 mil
Kendall Hodges - 4 / $4.44 mil / $520k

DTs
Dominic Lee - 4 / $15.52 mil / $3.00 mil
Roy Miller - 4 / $15.52 mil / $3.00 mil
Gabe Long - 5 / $14.75 mil / $2.90 mil
Corey Clark - 5 / $14.75 mil / $2.90 mil
Quinn Pitcock - 5 / $14.75 mil / $2.90 mil
Brandon Maupin - 5 / $14.75 mil / $2.90 mil
Fili Moala - 5 / $13.85 mil / $2.70 mil
Carlton Powell - 5 / $13.85 mil / $2.70 mil
Troy Johnson - 4 / $4.44 mil / $520k

OLBs
Aldon Smith - 4 / $7.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Chad Greenway - 3 / $4.74 mil / $750k
Anthony Felder - 4 / $5.76 mil / $880k
Joshua Massey - 4 / $5.76 mil / $880k
Derrick Townsend - 3 / $4.32 mil / $660k
Ernie Sims - 4 / $5.44 mil / $800k
John Kerr - 4 / $5.44 mil / $800k
Chris Clemons - 2 / $2.72 mil / $400k
Lance Sanders - 3 / $2.73 mil / $300k

MLBs
Mark Brown - 2 / $5.12 mil / $500k
Brad Kassell - 2 / $4.26 mil / $420k
Justin Warren - 3 / $5.73 mil / $600k
Tim McGarigle - 2 / $3.82 mil / $400k
Pat Lowery - 3 / $5.73 mil / $600k
Mike Walker - 2 / $3.60 mil / $400k
Jordan Dizon - 3 / $5.40 mil / $600k
Derek Mendoza - 3 / $5.04 mil / $600k
Aaron Harris - 3 / $2.85 mil / $300k
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KCF0107
05/31/18 9:23:22 PM
#112:


CBs
Tramon Williams - 3 / $7.56 mil / $810k
Derek Cox - 5 / $11.65 mil / $1.25 mil
Danny Gorrer - 5 / $11.65 mil / $1.25 mil
Tony Franklin - 3 / $6.99 mil / $750k
Roshaun Fellows - 5 / $11.65 mil / $1.25 mil
Harold Dalton - 5 / $11.65 mil / $1.25 mil
Cary Harris - 5 / $11.65 mil / $1.25 mil
Stanford Routt - 3 / $6.48 mil / $720k
Steve Washington - 4 / $4.28 mil / $520k

FSs
Dorian Monroe - 3 / $6.93 mil / $1.23 mil
Kyle Jackson - 3 / $6.93 mil / $1.23 mil
Jaxson Appel - 3 / $6.30 mil / $1.05 mil
Travis Hudson - 4 / $8.40 mil / $1.40 mil
Nate Lyles - 4 / $8.40 mil / $1.40 mil
Terrance Washington - 4 / $7.84 mil / $1.28 mil
Jahmile Addae - 3 / $5.88 mil / $960k
Matt Culver - 2 / $3.92 mil / $640k
Lance Gray - 3 / $2.10 mil / $240k

SSs
Lamon Means - 3 / $6.57 mil / $810k
Tony Bell - 3 / $4.74 mil / $660k
Dominique Brooks - 3 / $4.74 mil / $660k
Paul Thomas - 3 / $4.74 mil / $660k
Ben Emanuel - 3 / $4.50 mil / $630k
Byron Cook - 3 / $4.50 mil / $630k
Joshua Gore - 3 / $4.50 mil / $630k
Chris Keys - 3 / $4.50 mil / $630k
Randy Owens - 3 / $2.64 mil / $330k
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KCF0107
05/31/18 9:28:27 PM
#113:


Ks
Nick Folk - 2 / $3.52 mil / $460k
Kris Brown - 3 / $3.33 mil / $510k
Billy Cundiff - 3 / $3.33 mil / $510k
Jason Robbins - 2 / $2.58 mil / $360k
Dustin Hopkins - 3 / $2.92 mil / $390k
Connor Hughes - 3 / $2.79 mil / $360k
Kevin Kelly - 3 / $2.43 mil / $360k
Greg Zuerlein - 2 / $1.66 mil / $240k
Richie Dotson - 1 / $470k / $30k

Ps
Chris Kluwe - 3 / $2.88 mil / $450k
Jacob Richardson - 3 / $2.52 mil / $450k
Josh Bidwell - 3 / $3.21 mil / $390k
Tim Reyer - 3 / $2.46 mil / $390k
Eric Wilbur - 3 / $2.82 mil / $390k
Jason Baker - 2 / $2.10 mil / $220k
Matt Bosher - 2 / $1.48 mil / $220k
Ryan Qugley - 2 / $1.46 mil / $220k
Avery Tyson - 1 / $470k / $30k

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profDEADPOOL
05/31/18 10:05:32 PM
#114:


Another free agency I don't have the cap space to actually do anything with :o
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KCF0107
06/01/18 2:00:21 PM
#115:


Chiefs release SS Ryan Clark. He qualifies for making the free agent sheet and thus will provide his contract info hopefully later tonight or tomorrow at the latest.
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KCF0107
06/02/18 1:54:38 AM
#116:


Clark wants 3 / $5.7 mil / $780k
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KCF0107
06/02/18 7:17:34 PM
#117:


Already have received multiple PMs containing offers.
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ShatteredElysium
06/02/18 7:24:35 PM
#118:


I still need to do mine but just undecided on what to offer
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ScareChan
06/02/18 11:04:25 PM
#119:


is it okay to send something like

Player A
Player B (same position)

prioritize player A and you only want one of them
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KCF0107
06/02/18 11:39:02 PM
#120:


No, that is not something that I am able to do.
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KCF0107
06/03/18 2:28:18 PM
#121:


Up to five offer PMs now
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ScareChan
06/03/18 3:42:15 PM
#122:


Wow at that 500 post
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ShatteredElysium
06/03/18 3:54:11 PM
#123:


I feel like we need an adequate reminder of Foles stats last season and put that against Scare passing on an 85 rated Bridgewater who fell way past him
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KCF0107
06/03/18 3:56:39 PM
#124:


I'm on mobile, but if you want to repost his statline from his three game, they are on the first page of the topic soon to purge.
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ScareChan
06/03/18 4:09:21 PM
#125:


Not my fault he came from a trash system *shrug*
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WalkingWiki
06/03/18 6:06:12 PM
#126:


ScareChan posted...
Not my fault he came from a trash system *shrug*

no stop I was already ded again
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ShatteredElysium
06/03/18 7:08:42 PM
#127:


QB Nick Foles 5-23, 29 yards, 4 INTs
QB Nick Foles 15-31, 144 yards, 2 INTs
QB Nick Foles 9-24, 52 yards


Total: 29-78 (37.17%), 225 Yards, 0 TDs, 6 INTs

For Comparison:

QB Nathan Peterman, 24-49 (48.98%), 252 Yards, 2 TDs, 5 INTs
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ScareChan
06/03/18 7:19:49 PM
#128:


you will all see who gets the last laugh

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KCF0107
06/04/18 4:24:37 PM
#129:


Bump
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KCF0107
06/05/18 4:30:22 PM
#130:


Bumps
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ertyu1978
06/06/18 9:51:42 AM
#131:


titans go
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KCF0107
06/06/18 3:53:06 PM
#132:


Roughly 52 hours until the deadline
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KCF0107
06/07/18 4:56:26 PM
#133:


Tomorrow
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ScareChan
06/08/18 4:42:36 AM
#134:


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KCF0107
06/08/18 4:12:04 PM
#135:


Less than five hours.

I will be able to fully update the spreadsheet at the conclusion of free agency, but as for updates after the first and second rounds, I will probably be limited to removing players from free agent sheet and updating cap spaces.
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KCF0107
06/08/18 8:01:33 PM
#136:


Deadline has passed

Including me, 11 users have sent in offers for the first round of free agency.
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KCF0107
06/08/18 8:21:06 PM
#137:


You guys always crack me up on who is the most targeted free agent among users.
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ShatteredElysium
06/08/18 8:46:05 PM
#138:


If I dont get the only guy I targeted, I'll be interested to see just how much he is getting paid
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Emeraldegg
06/08/18 8:48:02 PM
#139:


I also only targeted one guy but I have a hunch about a couple of teams that had plenty of money to outbid me
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WalkingWiki
06/08/18 8:49:54 PM
#140:


I swear if one of my two FAs is most targeted then I dont understand this league
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ShatteredElysium
06/08/18 8:50:25 PM
#141:


I think I bid 45m over 5 years so there's definitely the potential someone bid more but I wasn't sure how much I was willing to fuck myself over next year given my dead money already
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KCF0107
06/08/18 10:01:32 PM
#142:


I will probably post free agent results tomorrow.

The most-targeted player from users was 75-overall OLB Derrick Townsend, the 170th selection in the 2013 draft. Four users made a bid on him. He signed with an AI team.
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MysteriousStan
06/08/18 10:06:25 PM
#143:


KCF0107 posted...
The most-targeted player from users was 75-overall OLB Derrick Townsend, the 170th selection in the 2013 draft. Four users made a bid on him. He signed with an AI team.

Son of a....

Well I hope I signed the other OLB I sent an offer too but I'm not feeling optimistic...
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ScareChan
06/08/18 10:06:31 PM
#144:


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ScareChan
06/08/18 10:10:13 PM
#145:


Was that just everyone trying to fill acheap hole or something.Im confused
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MysteriousStan
06/08/18 10:14:15 PM
#146:


75 OVR, young enough to develop into something better being only 22 years old, OLB in an OLB starved league? Not hard to see why that would be appealing to a lot of teams.
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ScareChan
06/08/18 10:26:36 PM
#147:


*hugs Turner*
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KCF0107
06/08/18 10:40:19 PM
#148:


Screw it, I will post signings on my phone. This will take forever. I started at 10:28 ET, so let's see when this gets posted.

Bengals sign QB Carson Palmer to a 2 year deal
Bengals sign WR Bryant Johnson to a 3 year deal
Bengals sign MLB Mark Brown to a 2 year deal
Bills sign WR Pierre Garcon to a 4 year deal
Broncos sign QB Michael Vick to a 2 year deal
Broncos sign OLB Chad Greenway to a 3 year deal
Bucs sign CB Curtis Deloatch to a 2 year deal
Chiefs sign HB LaMichael James to a 5 year deal
Chiefs sign C Kyle Scott to a 3 year deal
Colts sign QB David Carr to a 3 year deal
Colts sign C Al Johnson to a 3 year deal
Colts sign RG Corey Coleman to a 3 year deal
Colts sign LE John Abraham to a 3 year deal
Dolphins sign QB Chris Simms to a 3 year deal
Falcons sign QB Rex Grossman to a 3 year deal
Falcons sign LT Rob Pettitti to a 3 year deal
Falcons sign C Donovan Raiola to a 3 year deal to unite brothers
49ers sign QB Cam Newton to a 5 year deal
Hawks sign FB James Coleman to a 2 year deal
Hawks sign FB Cory Anderson to a 3 year deal
Hawks sign DE Michael Haynes to a 3 year deal
Hawks sign DE Carlos Hall to a 3 year deal
Lightning sign QB Anthony Morelli to a 5 year deal
Lightning sign G Aaron Lips to a 3 year deal
Lions sign FB Tim Castille to a 2 year deal
Lions sign SS Lamon Means to a 3 year deal
Pats sign OLB Chris Clemons to a 2 year deal
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ScareChan
06/08/18 10:43:50 PM
#149:


yesss

how many people bid on newton
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KCF0107
06/08/18 10:49:52 PM
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Pioneers sign DE Marquise Hill to a 2 year deal
Pioneers sign MLB Brad Kassell to a 2 year deal
Raiders sign DT Ryan Sims to a 3 year deal
Raiders sign DT Dwan Edwards to a 3 year deal
Ravens sign DT Scott Gould to a 4 year deal
Ravens sign K Nick Folk to a 2 year deal
Redskins sign HB Domanick Davis to a 3 year deal
Redskins sign G Martin Bibla to a 3 year deal
Redskins sign DE Chris Kelsey to a 2 year deal
Redskins sign CB Eric Green to a 2 year deal
Seahawks sign FB Greg Jones to a 3 year deal
Seahawks sign TE Dustin Keller to a 4 year deal
Seahawks sign G Jake Scott to a 3 year deal
Seahawks sign DT Rodney Bailey to a 3 year deal
Titans sign DE Jamaal Anderson to a 7 year deal
Titans sign OLB Aldon Smith to a 5 year deal
Vikings sign TE Brandon Pettigrew to a 4 year deal
Vikings sign TE Joe Klopfenstein to a 3 year deal
Vikings sign G Taylor Whitley to a 2 year deal
Vikings sign OLB Derrick Townsend to a 4 year deal
Vikings sign OLB Matt McCoy to a 2 year deal
Vikings sign OLB Marquis Copper to a 2 year deal
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