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Zikten
05/23/18 3:36:09 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
apple1986 posted...
Zikten posted...
eggcorn posted...
not gonna happen because each news outlet will be afraid the others will break the news first.

not if they make it illegal to break the news. if they do it, fine them and arrest the person who ordered the reporting. do this a few times and the news networks will learn to be scared to break the news


Yeah, let's make it illegal to break news. That'll work out alright.


They can literally tell the story without ever mentioning the shooter's name.

this. Im just asking the name to be censored. they can still talk about 99% of the story
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/23/18 3:56:58 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
liberal telling the liberal media what to do...


Waaaaaaahhhh liberal D:
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voldothegr8
05/23/18 4:00:21 PM
#53:


Zikten posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
apple1986 posted...
Zikten posted...
eggcorn posted...
not gonna happen because each news outlet will be afraid the others will break the news first.

not if they make it illegal to break the news. if they do it, fine them and arrest the person who ordered the reporting. do this a few times and the news networks will learn to be scared to break the news


Yeah, let's make it illegal to break news. That'll work out alright.


They can literally tell the story without ever mentioning the shooter's name.

this. Im just asking the name to be censored. they can still talk about 99% of the story

1st amendment still says hi
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LightHawKnight
05/23/18 4:10:16 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Zikten posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
apple1986 posted...
Zikten posted...
eggcorn posted...
not gonna happen because each news outlet will be afraid the others will break the news first.

not if they make it illegal to break the news. if they do it, fine them and arrest the person who ordered the reporting. do this a few times and the news networks will learn to be scared to break the news


Yeah, let's make it illegal to break news. That'll work out alright.


They can literally tell the story without ever mentioning the shooter's name.

this. Im just asking the name to be censored. they can still talk about 99% of the story

1st amendment still says hi


What does that even matter? Why do people want to spread the fame of a mass murder?
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Behaviorism
05/23/18 4:17:15 PM
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Yeah that happens then the names are posted all over Twitter and facebook
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Dark_Spiret
05/23/18 4:19:22 PM
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while i agree, this is another dangerous road to go down.

its starting to feel like doing nothing is better than doing something, atleast in the ways people are proposing on both sides.
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DifferentialEquation
05/23/18 4:23:17 PM
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When David Hogg accuses people on the pro 2A side of supporting the murder of children and makes other vile comments, the liberal media pushes him into to the spotlight and treats him like a hero. But now that he's made a somewhat sensible suggestion, I suspect a lot liberal outlets will distance themselves from him.
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Damn_Underscore
05/23/18 4:33:04 PM
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I actually don't know if I agree with this or not tbh...

There are fair arguments on both sides.
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apple1986
05/23/18 4:33:19 PM
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The truth should be pervasive.

It's up to the individual as to how they react.
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Howl
05/23/18 4:34:16 PM
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There is no law that they could possibly make that would stop people from finding out the identity of every school shooter. Even if every news organization in the US just up and agreed to just not releasing the names and all held that agreement, people would still find out because of facebook, twitter, Instagram and etc.
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LightHawKnight
05/23/18 4:36:17 PM
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Howl posted...
There is no law that they could possibly make that would stop people from finding out the identity of every school shooter. Even if every news organization in the US just up and agreed to just not releasing the names and all held that agreement, people would still find out because of facebook, twitter, Instagram and etc.


They don't have to. They just don't have to say his name in media broadcasts so less people learn the murderer's name and he wont get much fame.
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LightHawKnight
05/23/18 4:38:34 PM
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Conflict posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Howl posted...
There is no law that they could possibly make that would stop people from finding out the identity of every school shooter. Even if every news organization in the US just up and agreed to just not releasing the names and all held that agreement, people would still find out because of facebook, twitter, Instagram and etc.


They don't have to. They just don't have to say his name in media broadcasts so less people learn the murderer's name and he wont get much fame.


hahaha

You think when everyone and their grandmother uses the internet that the shooter wouldn't "get much fame" if they didn't say his name on TV?

That's pretty funny


You think regular people are going to google who the hell the shooter is? No. Regular people will only ever barely read things shown on TV or other sort of news. They will NEVER research on their own, cause that takes effort.
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LightHawKnight
05/23/18 4:40:05 PM
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Conflict posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Conflict posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Howl posted...
There is no law that they could possibly make that would stop people from finding out the identity of every school shooter. Even if every news organization in the US just up and agreed to just not releasing the names and all held that agreement, people would still find out because of facebook, twitter, Instagram and etc.


They don't have to. They just don't have to say his name in media broadcasts so less people learn the murderer's name and he wont get much fame.


hahaha

You think when everyone and their grandmother uses the internet that the shooter wouldn't "get much fame" if they didn't say his name on TV?

That's pretty funny


You think regular people are going to google who the hell the shooter is? No. Regular people will only ever barely read things shown on TV or other sort of news. They will NEVER research on their own, cause that takes effort.


You don't need to 'research on your own' to find out news on the internet.


You do if the media never say the murderer's name, specially not on the title of their stupid article.
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Damn_Underscore
05/23/18 4:40:24 PM
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It's not about information being censored, news outlets would theoretically just agree not to say the name or reveal info about the killer.

Like if someone graffiti'd vulgar things on a road the local news would report the story but they wouldn't show the graffiti.
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Howl
05/23/18 4:41:05 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Howl posted...
There is no law that they could possibly make that would stop people from finding out the identity of every school shooter. Even if every news organization in the US just up and agreed to just not releasing the names and all held that agreement, people would still find out because of facebook, twitter, Instagram and etc.


They don't have to. They just don't have to say his name in media broadcasts so less people learn the murderer's name and he wont get much fame.


They'll still get fame online. It may help slightly but I really don't see the point in this especially because most teenagers get almost all their information online today, they don't watch TV as much as older generations.

The idea of losers "proving everyone wrong" and "showing them who's a loser" is already pervasive in our culture and it coupled with mental illness is what the actual cause of this is.
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EnragedSlith
05/23/18 4:43:13 PM
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Its inescapable. People worship violence.
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apple1986
05/23/18 4:44:19 PM
#75:


Conflict posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Howl posted...
There is no law that they could possibly make that would stop people from finding out the identity of every school shooter. Even if every news organization in the US just up and agreed to just not releasing the names and all held that agreement, people would still find out because of facebook, twitter, Instagram and etc.


They don't have to. They just don't have to say his name in media broadcasts so less people learn the murderer's name and he wont get much fame.


hahaha

You think when everyone and their grandmother uses the internet that the shooter wouldn't "get much fame" if they didn't say his name on TV?

That's pretty funny


My grandmother is dead.
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chill02
05/23/18 4:45:26 PM
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Sane people have been saying this for years.

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Malcrasternus
05/23/18 4:46:16 PM
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Not making the shooter a celebrity is the stance pro gun advocates have held onto for years.

Good to see more people on both sides trying to adopt it, though good fucking luck getting the news media to follow suit.
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Howl
05/23/18 4:47:11 PM
#78:


apple1986 posted...
Conflict posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Howl posted...
There is no law that they could possibly make that would stop people from finding out the identity of every school shooter. Even if every news organization in the US just up and agreed to just not releasing the names and all held that agreement, people would still find out because of facebook, twitter, Instagram and etc.


They don't have to. They just don't have to say his name in media broadcasts so less people learn the murderer's name and he wont get much fame.


hahaha

You think when everyone and their grandmother uses the internet that the shooter wouldn't "get much fame" if they didn't say his name on TV?

That's pretty funny


My grandmother is dead.


Sorry for your loss, but you saying that was completely irrelevant. His post wasn't directed specifically at you or your grandmother, and that phrase is just meant to mean "most people" not literally every person and every grandmother.
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KarmaMuffin
05/23/18 4:50:13 PM
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it just feels to me that people feel powerless and obviously want to stop the shootings. We cling to anything we can that presents a solution
For some this is a form of strong gun control
For others this is teachers packing heat
For others it's a mental health crisis
And now, it's the media

I get it. IDK what the solution is, but there's research for and against practically all of the above. It's just a bad sign to me that gun nuts have been clamoring for this for years and now everyone is taking it. The attack on our media is an insidious move that is gaining ground at a time it shouldn't be
I just don't see how there won't be idiots idolizing the crazies whether we know their name or not, it's a feel good gesture and nothing else.
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apple1986
05/23/18 4:54:20 PM
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Howl posted...
apple1986 posted...
Conflict posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Howl posted...
There is no law that they could possibly make that would stop people from finding out the identity of every school shooter. Even if every news organization in the US just up and agreed to just not releasing the names and all held that agreement, people would still find out because of facebook, twitter, Instagram and etc.


They don't have to. They just don't have to say his name in media broadcasts so less people learn the murderer's name and he wont get much fame.


hahaha

You think when everyone and their grandmother uses the internet that the shooter wouldn't "get much fame" if they didn't say his name on TV?

That's pretty funny


My grandmother is dead.


Sorry for your loss, but you saying that was completely irrelevant. His post wasn't directed specifically at you or your grandmother, and that phrase is just meant to mean "most people" not literally every person and every grandmother.


But my grandmother is dead.
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Howl
05/23/18 4:58:55 PM
#81:


apple1986 posted...
Howl posted...
apple1986 posted...
Conflict posted...
LightHawKnight posted...
Howl posted...
There is no law that they could possibly make that would stop people from finding out the identity of every school shooter. Even if every news organization in the US just up and agreed to just not releasing the names and all held that agreement, people would still find out because of facebook, twitter, Instagram and etc.


They don't have to. They just don't have to say his name in media broadcasts so less people learn the murderer's name and he wont get much fame.


hahaha

You think when everyone and their grandmother uses the internet that the shooter wouldn't "get much fame" if they didn't say his name on TV?

That's pretty funny


My grandmother is dead.


Sorry for your loss, but you saying that was completely irrelevant. His post wasn't directed specifically at you or your grandmother, and that phrase is just meant to mean "most people" not literally every person and every grandmother.


But my grandmother is dead.


I'm sorry for your loss but you saying that was completely irrelevant. His post wasn't directed specifically at you or your grandmother, and that phrase is just meant to mean "most people" not literally every person and every grandmother.
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Thunder_Armor
05/23/18 5:01:56 PM
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Zikten posted...
eggcorn posted...
not gonna happen because each news outlet will be afraid the others will break the news first.

not if they make it illegal to break the news. if they do it, fine them and arrest the person who ordered the reporting. do this a few times and the news networks will learn to be scared to break the news


This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.
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apple1986
05/23/18 5:04:48 PM
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Thunder_Armor posted...
Zikten posted...
eggcorn posted...
not gonna happen because each news outlet will be afraid the others will break the news first.

not if they make it illegal to break the news. if they do it, fine them and arrest the person who ordered the reporting. do this a few times and the news networks will learn to be scared to break the news


This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.


This
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/23/18 5:10:41 PM
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@DifferentialEquation posted...
When David Hogg accuses people on the pro 2A side of supporting the murder of children and makes other vile comments, the liberal media pushes him into to the spotlight and treats him like a hero. But now that he's made a somewhat sensible suggestion, I suspect a lot liberal outlets will distance themselves from him.


Why? Why would liberals be against his suggestion? What about it would be considered bad by them?
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Crazyman93
05/23/18 5:12:42 PM
#86:


Caution999 posted...
wow. I actually agree with him for once.

Hell has frozen over.

Right? I wish we would as a society stop naming the shooters. I imagine for a number of them "you won't get famous" would be a sizable deterrent. But the media is only out for ratings anymore.
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Howl
05/23/18 5:13:17 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
@DifferentialEquation posted...
When David Hogg accuses people on the pro 2A side of supporting the murder of children and makes other vile comments, the liberal media pushes him into to the spotlight and treats him like a hero. But now that he's made a somewhat sensible suggestion, I suspect a lot liberal outlets will distance themselves from him.


Why? Why would liberals be against his suggestion? What about it would be considered bad by them?


Because a lot of media companies are run by liberals and they know that school shootings are ratings gold. Not saying their names in their stories will create backlash or they will lose out to another competing organization that is willing to say their names, and they will want to avoid that at all costs.
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DifferentialEquation
05/23/18 5:14:41 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
@DifferentialEquation posted...
When David Hogg accuses people on the pro 2A side of supporting the murder of children and makes other vile comments, the liberal media pushes him into to the spotlight and treats him like a hero. But now that he's made a somewhat sensible suggestion, I suspect a lot liberal outlets will distance themselves from him.


Why? Why would liberals be against his suggestion? What about it would be considered bad by them?


Because he made a suggestion that's not "OMG guns are evil! Ban them all!"
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LightHawKnight
05/23/18 5:22:37 PM
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Howl posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
@DifferentialEquation posted...
When David Hogg accuses people on the pro 2A side of supporting the murder of children and makes other vile comments, the liberal media pushes him into to the spotlight and treats him like a hero. But now that he's made a somewhat sensible suggestion, I suspect a lot liberal outlets will distance themselves from him.


Why? Why would liberals be against his suggestion? What about it would be considered bad by them?


Because a lot of media companies are run by liberals and they know that school shootings are ratings gold. Not saying their names in their stories will create backlash or they will lose out to another competing organization that is willing to say their names, and they will want to avoid that at all costs.


What backlash?
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Howl
05/23/18 6:07:23 PM
#90:


LightHawKnight posted...
Howl posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
@DifferentialEquation posted...
When David Hogg accuses people on the pro 2A side of supporting the murder of children and makes other vile comments, the liberal media pushes him into to the spotlight and treats him like a hero. But now that he's made a somewhat sensible suggestion, I suspect a lot liberal outlets will distance themselves from him.


Why? Why would liberals be against his suggestion? What about it would be considered bad by them?


Because a lot of media companies are run by liberals and they know that school shootings are ratings gold. Not saying their names in their stories will create backlash or they will lose out to another competing organization that is willing to say their names, and they will want to avoid that at all costs.


What backlash?


People will demand for "their right to know."
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MelbuFrahma4
05/23/18 6:44:14 PM
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Funkydog posted...
A few places have started doing this, and I think many more need to follow suit. Don't let them live in with notoriety - be it shooters, terrorists or whoever. Let them be a nameless statistic with no face. An individual to be forgotten.


Sadly isn't that how the victims are. I don't think many can name 5 victims of school shootings or terror attacks. Victims are forgotten until the next shooting happens. If there wasn't another shooting I don't think the media would be asking Hogg for his opinion right now. These shootings are keeping him in the news.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/23/18 8:48:25 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
@DifferentialEquation posted...
When David Hogg accuses people on the pro 2A side of supporting the murder of children and makes other vile comments, the liberal media pushes him into to the spotlight and treats him like a hero. But now that he's made a somewhat sensible suggestion, I suspect a lot liberal outlets will distance themselves from him.


Why? Why would liberals be against his suggestion? What about it would be considered bad by them?


Because he made a suggestion that's not "OMG guns are evil! Ban them all!"


Liberals use the term evil?
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