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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 05/25/18 11:14:36 AM #51: |
Howl posted...
I really dont understand how people can claim transgenders can become a different gender than their birth gender, but people cannot become a different race. Both race and gender are social constructs and have more much more to do with self-identification than anything biological. Who people consider as black people in Brazil is entirely different than what people in the Unites States consider to be black. All joking aside, me either. You can say transgender is a metal "issue" and I get that. But how is it not the same for racial issues? --- "I also advised their executives through e-mail that further behavior could result in a cyber attack[...]" https://imgur.com/cSxy3Od ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 05/25/18 11:17:26 AM #52: |
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
Howl posted...I really dont understand how people can claim transgenders can become a different gender than their birth gender, but people cannot become a different race. Both race and gender are social constructs and have more much more to do with self-identification than anything biological. Who people consider as black people in Brazil is entirely different than what people in the Unites States consider to be black. because gender dysphoria is a real thing, while racial dysphoria is not --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 05/25/18 11:18:46 AM #53: |
Howl posted...
I really dont understand how people can claim transgenders can become a different gender than their birth gender, but people cannot become a different race. Both race and gender are social constructs and have more much more to do with self-identification than anything biological. Who people consider as black people in Brazil is entirely different than what people in the Unites States consider to be black. Gender as in sex (male/female), not social construct genders or the 54+ snowflake genders. Its easy to mix up gender with sex since the history of the terms and subsequent terms. Also https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/22/transgender-brain-scans-promised-study-shows-structural-differences/ --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 05/25/18 11:19:27 AM #54: |
darkjedilink posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...thelovefist posted...darkjedilink posted...lol. Kineth, cjsdowg, and FrisbeeDude will defend this somehow. They love her. ...are you ok, bro? I've literally, in no way, ever made that argument. This is bordering on Troll Derangement Syndrome. You're literally making up argument for me based on your insane evaluation of my beliefs. Seriously, step away from the computer. --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 05/25/18 11:22:56 AM #55: |
averagejoel posted...
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...Howl posted...I really dont understand how people can claim transgenders can become a different gender than their birth gender, but people cannot become a different race. Both race and gender are social constructs and have more much more to do with self-identification than anything biological. Who people consider as black people in Brazil is entirely different than what people in the Unites States consider to be black. averagejoel posted... "transracial" people are an actual thing --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 05/25/18 11:24:11 AM #56: |
averagejoel posted...
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...Howl posted...I really dont understand how people can claim transgenders can become a different gender than their birth gender, but people cannot become a different race. Both race and gender are social constructs and have more much more to do with self-identification than anything biological. Who people consider as black people in Brazil is entirely different than what people in the Unites States consider to be black. Again, serious question... Says who? Gender dysphoria wasn't a mental health issue 50 years ago. Don't get me wrong, it was an issue people faced and silently dealt with but it wasn't put in medical textbooks as a mental health issue AFAIK. Is racial dysphoria a real thing that people just aren't talking about or was this chick just a crazy nutjob? --- "I also advised their executives through e-mail that further behavior could result in a cyber attack[...]" https://imgur.com/cSxy3Od ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Howl 05/25/18 11:28:16 AM #57: |
iPhone_7 posted...
Howl posted...I really dont understand how people can claim transgenders can become a different gender than their birth gender, but people cannot become a different race. Both race and gender are social constructs and have more much more to do with self-identification than anything biological. Who people consider as black people in Brazil is entirely different than what people in the Unites States consider to be black. Ok, then that destroys the narrative that gender has nothing to do with biology or that gender roles are solely a product of socialization as opposed to something biological. How can a person argue for the existence of male/female brains and use that as an argument to support the reality of gender dysphoria being biological, and simultaneously argue that gender differences are solely the product of socialization? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bshwalker 05/25/18 11:31:27 AM #58: |
Even though its illegal, she felt like it was legal.
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thelovefist 05/25/18 11:33:30 AM #59: |
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
averagejoel posted...WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...Howl posted...I really dont understand how people can claim transgenders can become a different gender than their birth gender, but people cannot become a different race. Both race and gender are social constructs and have more much more to do with self-identification than anything biological. Who people consider as black people in Brazil is entirely different than what people in the Unites States consider to be black. averagelol thinks it is a real thing though. He has said so in this topic. --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 05/25/18 11:48:18 AM #60: |
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
averagejoel posted...WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...Howl posted...I really dont understand how people can claim transgenders can become a different gender than their birth gender, but people cannot become a different race. Both race and gender are social constructs and have more much more to do with self-identification than anything biological. Who people consider as black people in Brazil is entirely different than what people in the Unites States consider to be black. there has been plenty written about this already. I'm not sure if she's a "crazy nutjob", but she is definitely not legit --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 05/25/18 11:51:24 AM #61: |
CE doesn't actually communicate with black people on the regular, which is why they've come to the belief that black people actually support her.
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thelovefist 05/25/18 11:51:54 AM #62: |
averagejoel posted...
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...averagejoel posted...WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...Howl posted...I really dont understand how people can claim transgenders can become a different gender than their birth gender, but people cannot become a different race. Both race and gender are social constructs and have more much more to do with self-identification than anything biological. Who people consider as black people in Brazil is entirely different than what people in the Unites States consider to be black. averagejoel posted... "transracial" people are an actual thing --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 05/25/18 11:53:47 AM #63: |
thelovefist posted...
averagejoel posted..."transracial" people are an actual thing Why dont you read the whole thought before derping out Because what he said is what transracial means. It has nothing to do with identifying as another race --- DezCaughtIt AKA freakofnature30 Brockhampton makes me saturate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 05/25/18 11:54:40 AM #65: |
thelovefist posted...
averagelol thinks it is a real thing though. He has said so in this topic. Yeah, but he also qualified exactly what he meant by that term, and the why Rachel Dolezal still falls outside that category. Why aren't you repeating that explanation, and quoting the entire sentence in context? --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 05/25/18 11:56:22 AM #66: |
Yet researching for just a few minutes I've found articles by people that are saying it is a real thing. Including researchers.
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Balrog0 05/25/18 12:03:49 PM #67: |
WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
Yet researching for just a few minutes I've found articles by people that are saying it is a real thing. Including researchers. feel free to share that, I didn't see it used in research except in conjunction with the term "adoption" and all of the people claiming transracialism were doing so post-Dolezal in kind of a backlash sort of way (even then it wasn't super common) --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 05/25/18 12:16:47 PM #68: |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transracial_(identity) which has a snippit about half way down:
ublication of this paper resulted in considerable controversy. The subject was also explored in Trans: Gender and Race in an Age of Unsettled Identities, a 2016 book by UCLA sociology professor Rogers Brubaker, who argues that the phenomenon, though offensive to many and beset with logical problems, is psychologically real to many people, and has many examples throughout history.[5][6] This book was put out by the publishing part of Princeton. For whatever that is worth. I don't know if they only publish books that are researched and they agree with or if they put out anything. Also- sociologist has quotes in here https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/life/culture/article/2017/07/12/trans-racial-when-youre-born-one-race-identify-another Dr Peter Gale, senior lecturer in race and ethnicity at the University of South Australia, says that not only is being trans-racial is genuine thing but that it can be positive, too. I only took the first two I looked at. It seems there are legitimate people making points that it IS a thing. --- "I also advised their executives through e-mail that further behavior could result in a cyber attack[...]" https://imgur.com/cSxy3Od ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 05/25/18 12:21:17 PM #69: |
^ ah, I meant the kind of transracial identity averagejoel was talking about. Those are explicitly about the kind Rachel Dolezal supposedly is
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr 05/25/18 12:22:28 PM #70: |
Balrog0 posted...
^ ah, I meant the kind of transracial identity averagejoel was talking about. Those are explicitly about the kind Rachel Dolezal supposedly is Oh sorry, misunderstood. I don't know then. --- "I also advised their executives through e-mail that further behavior could result in a cyber attack[...]" https://imgur.com/cSxy3Od ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaoticKnuckles 05/25/18 12:26:09 PM #71: |
I do have a question in regards to her. She said she identifies as black right? And practically everyone just laughed at her for saying that. If being transgender is a thing and needs to be respected then what makes being transracial all that different?
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thelovefist 05/25/18 12:26:58 PM #72: |
ChaoticKnuckles posted...
I do have a question in regards to her. She said she identifies as black right? And practically everyone just laughed at her for saying that. If being transgender is a thing and needs to be respected then what makes being transracial all that different? These are the kinds of questions that the TDF doesn't want you asking. --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 05/25/18 12:30:17 PM #73: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
CE doesn't actually communicate with black people on the regular, which is why they've come to the belief that black people actually support her. Lmao true. They unintentionally exposed themselves. Its almost as if they've constructed the black ethos in their minds entirely from ignorance and racism Congratulations. Yall played yourselves --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 05/25/18 12:36:10 PM #74: |
thelovefist posted...
ChaoticKnuckles posted...I do have a question in regards to her. She said she identifies as black right? And practically everyone just laughed at her for saying that. If being transgender is a thing and needs to be respected then what makes being transracial all that different? Why does the "TDF" make you so buttmad --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dabrikishaw15 05/25/18 2:13:25 PM #75: |
Never heard of this person but that's serious scumbag behavior.
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nicklebro 05/25/18 2:16:27 PM #76: |
Anyone make the obvious racist joke that the liberal in me won't allow me to make?
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Zikten 05/25/18 2:18:20 PM #77: |
she also ruined some black event. they expected hundreds of people to gather. but when they heard she was going to be there, only around 12 people showed up
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hollow_shrine 05/25/18 2:20:27 PM #78: |
nicklebro posted...
Anyone make the obvious racist joke that the liberal in me won't allow me to make? I know that joke you want to make, but lets read this article from the root referencing that joke instead. https://www.theroot.com/dear-rachel-dolezal-being-a-welfare-queen-actually-m-1826313849 --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nicklebro 05/25/18 2:38:18 PM #79: |
hollow_shrine posted...
nicklebro posted...Anyone make the obvious racist joke that the liberal in me won't allow me to make? Grassy ass. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thelovefist 05/25/18 3:09:35 PM #80: |
hollow_shrine posted...
Nice racist article you posted there --- "honestly the worst thing about Shaun King is how pro-cop he is" - averagejoel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 05/25/18 3:15:35 PM #81: |
thelovefist posted...
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nicklebro 05/25/18 3:16:13 PM #82: |
hollow_shrine posted...
thelovefist posted...hollow_shrine posted... Lmao --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RE_expert44 05/25/18 3:22:27 PM #83: |
thelovefist posted...
hollow_shrine posted... When it says more whites get welfare are they going by percentage of whites total compared to other race totals, or the raw numbers? A friend wants to know. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hollow_shrine 05/25/18 3:25:15 PM #84: |
RE_expert44 posted...
thelovefist posted...hollow_shrine posted... Raw numbers. Here is the linked article: http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-welfare-black-white-780252 And the relevant paragraphs: White people without a college degree ages 18 to 64 are the largest class of adults lifted out of poverty by such programs, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. The think tanks 2017 report stated that 6.2 million working-age whites were lifted above the poverty line in 2014 compared to 2.8 million blacks and 2.4 million Hispanics. --- Ignorance is a choice https://imgtc.com/i/7UnK3hx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 05/25/18 4:16:42 PM #85: |
I don't understand why people write articles like that with that kind of framing. It is silly. Might as well say if you get shot by the police you're probably white (that's also true for more or less the same reasons more white people get SNAP)
edit -- apparently I was even more correct than I knew https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do-police-kill-more-whites-than-black-people/ According to Fatal Encounters, the database created by former Reno News & Review editor and journalism instructor Burghart (which tracks all deaths resulting from interactions with police), a total of 1,388 people were killed by police in 2015, 318 (23%) of them black, and 560 (40%) of them white. That almost perfectly mirrors the shares of black and white SNAP recipients --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RE_expert44 05/25/18 4:21:47 PM #86: |
Balrog0 posted...
I don't understand why people write articles like that with that kind of framing. It is silly. Might as well say if you get shot by the police you're probably white (that's also true for more or less the same reasons more white people get SNAP) Because using raw numbers fits the narritave in that case. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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